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Audio Technica LP60X Automatic Turntable $188.30 @ JB Hi-Fi

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Audio Technica LP60X Automatic Turntable $188.30 @ JB Hi-Fi
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Pstrongzero on 21/07/2020 - 20:24 jbhifi.com.au (2560 clicks)
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Experience your vinyl’s high-fidelity audio directly or convert it to digital

Fully automatic belt-drive turntable operation with two speeds: 33-1/3, 45 RPM

Anti-resonance, die-cast aluminium platter

Redesigned tonearm base and headshell for improved tracking and reduced resonance

Integral Dual Magnet™ phono cartridge with replaceable diamond stylus (ATN3600L)

AC adapter handles AC/DC conversion outside of the chassis, reducing noise in the signal chain

Built-in switchable phono pre-amplifier for phono- or line-level output

Convert your vinyl records to digital audio files

Includes: detachable RCA output cable, 45 RPM adapter, and removable hinged dust cover

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  • Jimothy Wongingtons on 21/07/2020 - 20:28
    +50

    The two things thay really drew me to vinyl:

    The expense and the inconvenience.

      • baldur on 21/07/2020 - 20:47
        -4

        vinyls have worse sound than streaming music?

        • darkmoss on 21/07/2020 - 21:13
          +17

          Plural is vinyl. Not vinyls. smh

          • Budju on 22/07/2020 - 07:15
            +4

            @darkmoss: Take note of the apostophe. Spend less time in the cd shop and go back to school champ.

            • thesainter on 22/07/2020 - 15:06
              +1

              @Budju: Still incorrect, Vinyl is the correct english plural

              • Budju on 22/07/2020 - 21:01

                @thesainter: But it's the possessive.

                • thesainter on 23/07/2020 - 00:54

                  @Budju: https://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=4017

                  tldr:
                  Vinyl is a mass noun, like beer or cheese or glass, and as such, it doesn't have a plural. Not having a plural is basically what being a "mass noun" means — a mass noun refers to stuff that comes in variable but conceptually undifferentiated quantities that are measured rather than counted.

                  But also:
                  So "the plural of vinyl is 'vinyl'" is an invented "rule", more or less the opposite of the general patterns in the language,

                  You should have helped these guys out - only 60 signatures!

                  https://www.change.org/p/vinyl-lp-collectors-group-support-c…

                  • Budju on 23/07/2020 - 07:44

                    @thesainter: Nice write up, you are still missing the point hahahaha.

            • darkmoss on 22/07/2020 - 20:54

              @Budju: what is an 'apostophe', and what does it have to do with this (whatever it is?). Go back to kindy lil buddy

    • strongzero on 21/07/2020 - 20:44
      +6

      This is far superior entry level turntable than a Crosby. Which is $179 on Kogan right now.

      • darkmoss on 21/07/2020 - 21:11
        +17

        In all fairness, Crosby shouldn't even be considered

        • umadbrahhhh on 21/07/2020 - 21:59
          +5

          More of a lazy susan

        • SaddenAscentAspirin on 22/07/2020 - 07:50
          -2

          Did you neg this post because you don't like Crosbys?

        • yupyup on 22/07/2020 - 08:49
          -1

          Hey darkmoss, you need to explain the reason for your neg vote in a comment per the voting guidelines. You haven't explained why you have negged yet and mods can revoke your vote until you do.

          • downforce on 22/07/2020 - 11:49
            -1

            @yupyup: Or just report it and the mods can decide 😜

            • yupyup on 22/07/2020 - 12:25
              -2

              @downforce: Haha I actually do this a lot, just changing it up. I'm almost at the point where mods must be like 'sigh, not another invalid neg report from yupyup'. There are sooo many invalid negs I see it's crazy, I love valid negs but flippant ones without explanation just contribute to needless bad vibes on here. I didn't report this neg btw must have been someone else

          • thesainter on 22/07/2020 - 14:54
            +2

            @yupyup: Does not have to explain anything to you Karen, Crosby are extremely poor quality and damage records, so its a bad deal even if its free

            • yupyup on 22/07/2020 - 15:29
              -1

              @thesainter: That explanation would have sufficed, but you seem to be missing that both the neg and my comment had nothing to do with Crosby, but the deal itself. I don't make the rules. Take heed newbie and hope you enjoy ozb 🙂

            • thesainter on 22/07/2020 - 16:13

              @thesainter: Take heed? lul your the one assuming that the first person to reply to this OP was the one to neg! and also trying to play wannabe mod.

              Also assuming someone is "new" due to post count or when they signed up…………definitely been on the internets longer than you

              • et tu brute on 22/07/2020 - 20:42

                @thesainter: @ thesainter

                "internets"? … surely you mean "the interweb" ;)

                (don't worry, the regular Ozb'ers will understand the irony )

                cheers for beers :)

              • yupyup on 22/07/2020 - 22:11
                -1

                @thesainter: You haven't posted any deals, haven't even voted on any deals, somewhat recent, and having a go at someone for trying to keep things in line with site guidelines, which are in place for a reason. So yeah, ya new. It's okay! Read and understand the site guidelines, contribute, then you can call me Karen all you like 😋

                There were no assumptions, darkmoss negged the deal and didn't explain why. Neg got revoked. (not by me).

                • thesainter on 23/07/2020 - 00:45

                  @yupyup: Maybe let the mods mod and not the wannabe Team Amercia World Police

                  Your the one commenting on a post on a product you never intend to own or buy, is that in the guidelines…………

                  And i got the higher spec LPW40WN under this deal, no post to vote on.

          • darkmoss on 22/07/2020 - 20:29

            @yupyup: People can buy what they wish, I'm just trying to help.
            It's a bad turntable.
            I would suggest this at a bare minimum below

            https://www.instantclassic.com.au/products/pro-ject-primary-…

            You can read up on it yourself… as to why the Audio Technica is crappy, and why the Pro-Ject is a the more reasonable 'starter' table.

            Personally, I have a Rega RP-3. It's beautiful.

            Zero affiliations, I just love music.

            • et tu brute on 22/07/2020 - 20:59
              +1

              @darkmoss: @ darkmoss

              Before making any subjective equipment preferences for one vs. another, I would be making assumptions based on a broad number of factors, including listening environment, equipment set-up and importantly, what has been the listener's typical source of audio, type of audio and how that listener typically listened to music in the past.

              e,g, If someone has had a history of listening to mp3s at high volume could very likely be unable to spot the difference between the Crappy Crossley or the over-rated Pro-ject (my subjective opinion), yet my preferences may likely not please you.

              Also a cheap $60 Crosley vs a $1,000 Pro-ject are hardly going head-to-head ln the same market, so there is not much of a point to using this example as a credible comparison.

              • darkmoss on 22/07/2020 - 21:09

                @et tu brute: I agree with you. I just think it's pointless investing in records, or playing records, on a substandard table. Won't sound good

          • darkmoss on 22/07/2020 - 20:55

            @yupyup: Also, anybody with an idea has agreed with me. I've only been downvoted by the clueless.

      • jnewau on 22/07/2020 - 09:58
        +1

        Getting a strong r/vinyljerk vibe here

    • Weshouldgetsushi on 21/07/2020 - 20:51
      +3

      Obviously you did not experience the 70's and 80's with the fun that was LP records.

  • Carrian on 21/07/2020 - 20:49

    i'm dumb and not an audiophile (yet, i have good ears) but i've started collecting a few vinyls and have entry level headphones (Audio-Technica
    ATH-AD700x)

    do i need an amp as well?

    if yes, what would you recommend? lol ty

    • strongzero on 21/07/2020 - 20:54
      +5

      The AT LP60X has a built in preamp. You only need an amp if you are using passive speakers. So If you use active(powered) speakers you don't need an amp. For amp/speaker recommendations I encourage you to read some forums and check out some reviews on What Hi-fi.

      • Carrian on 21/07/2020 - 20:55
        +2

        tyvm <3

        • lordezekiel on 22/07/2020 - 12:00
          +2

          I know that is supposed to be a 'heart' emoji, but i always seet it as 'ball sack'

    • SteveAndBelle on 21/07/2020 - 20:55

      Yes if you're wanting to connect to speakers and/or your headphones. Probabaly just go for an SMSL AD18 or nearly any amp actually. This TT has a built-in pre amp so it'll work with anything.

    • SaddenAscentAspirin on 22/07/2020 - 07:55

      You can plug your headphones directly in, but there is no volume control as it has a line out. A small headphone amp would get you started. fiio makes decent ones that aren't terrible expensive, but all audio gear is subjective.

  • YellowKnight on 21/07/2020 - 20:54
    +1

    dumb and not an audiophile (yet, i have good ears) but i've started collecting a few vinyls.

    Is this player worth it at this price or can I get better? Hoping to use it with my Logitech Z623 speakers.

    • strongzero on 21/07/2020 - 20:56
      +1

      One of the highest rated, and lowest cost entry level turntables. I think it would work fine with your speakers. No need to fuss around with any additional hifi equipment. It would be pretty much plug and play.

      • SolidworksError on 22/07/2020 - 16:08

        And most importantly… It looks good!

        Let's be honest, there's an aesthetic and vibe element to vinyl.

    • SteveAndBelle on 21/07/2020 - 20:58
      +1

      Probably can't beat it for the money… especially if you're wanting to use it with your Logitechs. When you want to upgrade then your next step would be to get an Amp & Speakers but keep the TT… then the next step after that would be to upgrade the TT…. and so on.

      • strongzero on 21/07/2020 - 21:00
        +1

        Along with the stylus. Definitely consider getting an elliptical down the line.

        • SteveAndBelle on 21/07/2020 - 21:02
          +1

          Agreed… but I'd probably get a better TT first ;)

      • darkmoss on 21/07/2020 - 21:16
        -1

        I kind of agree with you.. but it defeats the purpose of playing/ owning records, if you're not using a decent amp, ttable, speakers etc…

        • SteveAndBelle on 21/07/2020 - 21:33

          Yes & no. I know quite a few people who have large, valuable LP collections and only mediocre gear but love their systems and are fine to keep them as is… even after letting them hear some of my gear ;) I suppose its all subjective and some people just like the tactile nature of playing LPs versus other sources. Each to their own.

          • darkmoss on 22/07/2020 - 06:37
            -7

            @SteveAndBelle: These people should be playing CDs then. Records are only worthwhile with the right gear, it's a fact. It's not subjective.

            • SteveAndBelle on 22/07/2020 - 07:15

              @darkmoss: You'd think so hey :) One thing I've learnt over the years is that you can't stop people doing silly things so if they want to use gear that isn't fit for purpose to achieve a goal then there isn't much you can do to stop them.

            • Randolph Duke on 22/07/2020 - 08:45
              +1

              @darkmoss: You could literally make this comment about anything.

              “These people should be ordering Maccas then. Cooking is only worthwhile with the right gear, it's a fact. It's not subjective.”

              • darkmoss on 22/07/2020 - 10:59

                @Randolph Duke: not the same at all. Only a certain level of gear can get the information from the record, for you to hear the full spectrum of sound pressed onto it

                • Randolph Duke on 22/07/2020 - 11:14

                  @darkmoss: I assume this means you have $100k speakers and $10k cables - otherwise, are you even a serious audiophile? Might as well not bother if you don’t.

        • ONEMariachi on 21/07/2020 - 22:28

          Funny thing is my dad has $40 speakers plugged into his highend amp (I need to get it fixed cos he broke the speaker inputs- using the headphone jack atm lmao). Still sounds better than typical Phone/streaming service and $150 pair of pc spekers. It's very likely entirely subjective, but there is somethign delcious about the tone vinyl gives off.

          • darkmoss on 22/07/2020 - 06:42
            -4

            @ONEMariachi: How are the $40 speakers ( and what are $40 speakers?) working through a a headphone jack? and what are PC speakers? Are they attached to a PC? Vinyl only sounds better through analogue playback, and only if it's a quality pressing, recorded with analogue gear to begin with… I'm all for that

            • ONEMariachi on 22/07/2020 - 10:07

              @darkmoss: PC speakers are the standard speakers that most people buy, that they attach to their PC, and usually bluetooth their phone to, to listen to music.
              The $40 speakers are some random Logitech speakers I found in a cupboard and plugged into the headphone jack on his 50 year old Sanyo amp, until I can source the parts to change the spring inputs he broke. These records are all form the 60's, 70's, and 80's.

              • darkmoss on 22/07/2020 - 11:00
                -1

                @ONEMariachi: must sound dreadful?

                • ONEMariachi on 22/07/2020 - 11:25

                  @darkmoss: It's not great, but it's better than nothing. Still prefer it over those same songs of him bluetoothing it from his laptop too.

    • darkmoss on 21/07/2020 - 21:12
      -8

      Plural is vinyl. Not vinyls. smh

    • Laziofogna on 21/07/2020 - 21:13
      +1

      You can obviously find much better spending more. Once you get there though you’ll want all the other components better and if money is not an issue I suggest you to do it.

  • Pace210 on 21/07/2020 - 21:08
    +5

    I recommend getting something with 78 speed, for Black Sabbath -then you will see god.

    • iamhurtin on 21/07/2020 - 22:31
      +1

      Doesn't matter how many times I listen to it on digital , I still hear the crackle.

      I love my dad

      Still plays me magicians birthday on vinyl every year

  • nuttapillar on 21/07/2020 - 21:09
    +2

    None in stock in SA it seems. The site reckons I have to drive 250kms to Mildura to get one of these…

  • scrimshaw on 21/07/2020 - 21:14
    +1

    Stock still exists in these suburbs

    Hurstville
    Marsden Park
    Chirnside Park
    Robina Home
    Ringwood

    VIC

    Essendon
    Highpoint
    South Wharf DFO
    Brunswick
    Camberwell
    Preston
    Mildura
    Waurn Ponds
    Taylors Lakes (Watergardens)
    Airport West

    • strongzero on 21/07/2020 - 21:16

      Also in stock at Indooroopilly JB.

  • dcash on 21/07/2020 - 21:17
    +8

    With an absolutely horrid, short, non-adjustable tone-arm, it won't be much kinder to your records than a than a $20 unit from Target. Even as an entry level unit, I'd give this one a miss.

    • eswes on 21/07/2020 - 22:50
      +1

      Would you mind explaining why this tone-arm would be problematic? I've noticed that some turntables have curved tone-arms, are they better for your records?

      • SteveAndBelle on 22/07/2020 - 07:24
        +2

        Tonearms and headshells traditionally should have a lot of adjustability to ensure the stylus hits the groove at the correct angle and downward force for optimal playback quality without damage to the grooves. With a rigid, non-adjustable setup such as on this TT theres no way of making those adjustments to get the best possible sound plus you run the risk of damaging your valuable LPs in the process… but in saying that I know of a few friends & family who have non-adjustable TTs and they're happy as it was the only way they could afford to get into listening to LPs (even though I warned against it).

        • SaddenAscentAspirin on 22/07/2020 - 07:59
          +2

          As a counterpoint to that, would anyone looking at this level of turntable even be able to properly adjust it if it was adjustable?

          • SteveAndBelle on 22/07/2020 - 08:14

            @SaddenAscentAspirin: Exactamundo! From my experience it's obvious that many owners of TTs even 5-10 times the price don't even bother with the proper adjustment, alignment & tracking force weight so go figure :) Whenever I restore a vintage TT most of my time is spent on two things… 1. polishing the scratches out of the lids and 2. adjusting the arms tracking force & anti-skate and aligning the (usually new) headshell & cartridge for optimal performance however I know for a fact that the recipient of the TT never bothers to keep that up over time… even when they decide to upgrade the components! For most (not all) owning a TT seems to purely be a status/brand/model thing and actual sound quality takes a back seat. Shame really but hey, you can't tell people how to live their lives.

            • dcash on 22/07/2020 - 08:43

              @SteveAndBelle: Even "out of the box" a better quality turntable will be friendlier to your records — and sound better, to boot! Furthermore, it's not as if you need specialist tools to make the adjustments. Sure, you could spend $2 to invest in a force gauge to check tracking force, but beyond that it's hardly rocket science!

              • SteveAndBelle on 22/07/2020 - 08:50
                +1

                @dcash: I've got a few specialist tools worth a lot more than $2 but yes I know what you mean and yes it's pretty simple which is why I always chuckle whenever I spend a minute adjusting someones TT and they're so impressed at the improvement it makes to SQ :)

            • skjaus2015 on 22/07/2020 - 09:44

              @SteveAndBelle: Hi Steve, how to get rid of the scratches out of the lid ? What chemicals/process to you use ? Thanks in Advance.

              • SteveAndBelle on 22/07/2020 - 10:24

                @skjaus2015: Difficult question to answer. There are many things you can use & many methods all depending on how bad the lid is, what your expectations are, what gear you may/may not have and of course how much time & money you wish to spend on it. I'm definitely not a pro at it but I've used different metal & car polish plus the Novus range and the popular Meguiars Scratch-X (but usually only to finish the job off). I've used a mix of hand polishing and machine polishing with a small powered buffer and have had decent enough results across the board. I think the most important thing to understand is that there's no quick & easy solution so hold yourself back from thinking the best results will be achieved by hitting it hard & fast with a powerful abrasive or chemical as that will only end in disaster. Tread lightly & carefully so if whatever you try doesn't work well then you can always bump it up a notch and try again another time until you're happy.

                • skjaus2015 on 25/07/2020 - 13:43

                  @SteveAndBelle: Thanks Steve.
                  I have heard a lot about Novus and they come in number 1,2,3. Thanks for good tips and other solvents suggested by you.

          • dcash on 22/07/2020 - 08:47

            @SaddenAscentAspirin: Absolutely they would! It's a piece of cake. And if you're playing some old records that have seen better days, you might indeed need to make adjustments just to get them to play correctly.

        • Scrobo on 22/07/2020 - 08:35
          +9

          Not many people have 'valuable' LPs, and unless listening to them incessantly, this player is very unlikely to cause any real damage. All players cause some damage, no matter what the design or expense. People with no experience of using a stylus would be far more likely to damage a record by using an adjustable system incorrectly. If worried though, option up to the 120 model.

          To say this is no kinder to LPs than a $20 unit is very misleading, the 60 is well calibrated, well balanced and fairly gentle on records, the short tone arm isn't ideal, but it still will be far better than most anything in the sub $200 bracket. However, I'd recommend spending the bit extra and going to the 120 model, as it is better all round, and if you end up not enjoying vinyl has great re-sale value, so the experiment won't cost you any more than getting the 60 if you end up selling up and going back to digital :)

          It's a good introduction to the fun and experience of playing records, and unless you have gone to the experience of acoustically treating your room, working out best seating positions etc. then the sound is also good.

          Annoyingly sometimes vinyl pressing do have better sound than digital releases, with a wider dynamic range. This though has nothing to do with the format, vinyl itself has a worse dynamic range even that CD, let alone DSD based or higher bitrate digital, but in some pressings it sounds much better due to the mastering coming from a better (and often digital) master. Sadly due to the loudness wars, the digital release was often from a different master, so had less true dynamic range, even though the DR of CD or DSD based audio has a much wider dynamic range as a format. A good example was the last Daft Punk release, the master used for the LP had much wider dynamic range than the master used for the digital releases.
          Had the digital release been based of the same master, the dynamic range of the digital release would be much wider than the same release on vinyl, but the point is moot as the vinyl pressing is the only way you can get it if you don't work at the studio :)

          Record players and especially tube amps add distortion to the signal (i.e. noise) but a lot of people enjoy that noise characteristic that it adds, and like it better than the ostensibly closer-to-original-sound digital release.

          if you really want great analogue sound then reel to reel offers much better audio than turntables, especially the newly released tapes coming from old master tapes, such as those from The Tape Project (https://tapeproject.com) which leaves the audio quality of any vinyl pressing in the dust, no matter how much you invest.

          But for an introduction to playing records, and the unique sound they have, and the experience of large cover art and the ritual of taking a record from its sleeve, checking it for dust, placing it on the turntable and sitting down to listen, the LP60 is a really good entry to that, the 120 is really the ideal 'cheap' player though, and you can plug either into any amp, including the one you probably already have in your lounge room, and will be great for the majority of people, even those with 'good ears' but who aren't fitting their room out like a studio to do nothing but listen.

          • eswes on 22/07/2020 - 09:28

            @Scrobo: Interesting point about the dynamic range. I hadn't thought about the master source playing such an important role, I figured it all came down to the quality of the medium itself.

        • eswes on 22/07/2020 - 09:26

          Appreciate the insight!

      • dcash on 22/07/2020 - 08:40
        +1

        Don't worry so much about the S shape vs straight, but consider the length of the tonearm and the angle between the tonearm (and therefore needle) and the grooves in the record, as the tonearm moves across the record. A short tonearm will only be parallel (or close to it) with the grooves in a relatively small area of the record as compared to a longer tonearm. This, combined with the inability to adjust tracking force and amount of anti-skate (the budget tonearms probably have none), is a surefire recipe to destroying your records in "record" time.

        • eswes on 22/07/2020 - 09:26

          Thank you for the explanation!

  • franco cozzo on 21/07/2020 - 21:24
    +3

    …worst mp3 player ever. would not buy again

  • Necromancer on 21/07/2020 - 21:37
    +1

    LP120 - its currently $419 at jb.

  • [Deactivated] on 21/07/2020 - 21:46
    +2

    With everything these days being recorded in digital you are just passing a digital source to analog (vinyl)

    So basically if you think vinyl records from modern music recordings sound better than their CD counterparts it’s just because you like the artefacts vinyl introduces into a digital source

    • Kontiki on 22/07/2020 - 06:24
      -1

      Indeed, although digital won't be much better if you are streaming on a low bitrate.

      The whole 'vinyl sounds better than CD' argument doesn't really apply anymore. CDs had a bit rate of only 178 KB/sec, modern streaming is much higher and hopefully better encoded.

      • [Deactivated] on 22/07/2020 - 07:42

        I'm curious how did it ever apply? I can't claim to hear above 22kHz and don't dream that my ears or a record based system will ever get anywhere near 96dB SNR. The big 'issue' with sound quality is bad mastering preferences.

      • Yanluk on 22/07/2020 - 10:10
        +2

        CD - 1411kbps - 177KB/s
        MP3 - 320kbps - 40KB/s

        What modern steaming which is higher bitrate than CD are you talking about?
        Tidal Master streams at 3000kbps but how many people actually are using Tidal Masters?

        • lordezekiel on 22/07/2020 - 12:10

          I use Tidal Masters every chance i get.
          Certainly it does not make much of a difference (over the CD quality "HiFi" setting) if you are just using some little portable bluetooth speaker, but if you have a half decent pair of headphones, home theatre or stereo speakers setup at home, it sounds SO GOOD.

      • lordezekiel on 22/07/2020 - 12:07

        This is just factually incorrect. CD bitrate is 1,411 kbps. Most streaming services top out at 320 kbps and largely default to 192kbps.
        Exception is Tidal which allows streaming of all the songs in it's library at the CD quality bitrate and some albums which have the Masters available are considerably higher quality again.

      • Kontiki on 22/07/2020 - 15:00

        I stand corrected, got my bits and bytes mixed up. Classic!

    • darkmoss on 22/07/2020 - 06:46
      -5

      That is blatantly untrue. Many groups and artists record with analogue equipment and get the pressings done right. You just need to know what you're shopping for, and support artists that care about their music.

      • Budju on 22/07/2020 - 07:10
        +1

        You sound like whinging old woman with nothing of note to say. Take off the neg so future generations aren't exposed to it.

    • gavincato on 22/07/2020 - 07:17
      +2

      There's plenty of great analogue recordings, mind you I'm an old bastard and like older music.

      That said, some "modern" stuff (i.e. not the beatles) sounds amazing. Daft Punk, Florence & the machine, red hot chilli peppers, etc. have great sounding records.

      In my house, the Vinyl vs streaming conversations end quick smart when I put on the recently remastered brothers in arms record. The sound on that is just incredible.

      (though I do have a very expensive setup)

      • Scrobo on 22/07/2020 - 08:41

        That remastered album came from a digital master, had they released that master as high bit rate digital, or a DSD based release it will sound better, have better dynamic range, than the vinyl pressing no matter how good your gear is.

        However in some cases the vinyl pressing is the only way that you can get that remastered version, and yeah, in that case the record certainly sounds better than the CD/Digital/Streaming release that came from a loudness compressed inferior master. Daft Punk's Random Access Memories also falls into that category, the master used for the LP was a much better master than the one used for the digital release, which is frustrating as the master in both cases is from a digital source, and they could effectively have released a perfect copy of the master used for the LP, but chose not to for reasons known only to their producers.

        • gavincato on 22/07/2020 - 20:57

          No, the brothers in arms was from the orig tapes. The mofi edition.

          btw I've tried tidal, and hdtracks. The higher rez digital sounds good. But to me the Vinyl is better generally.

          There are exceptions but "usually" I find the Vinyl better.

          (Rega Planar 6 with good amps / speakers)

    • Scrobo on 22/07/2020 - 09:13
      +1

      In general, you are right, however there are a bunch of LPs that have come from better masters, that are not available on digital. Daft Punk's Random Access Memories is a more recent example. The master used for the LP has much greater dynamic range than the master used for the digital release.
      Both the LP and Digital releases come from digital masters, but two different digital masters with the LP release coming from a master with much more dynamic range. It's incredibly annoying, but there are quite a few releases that have never had a good master used for the digital release.

      Look up 'the loudness wars' for details on this. It is incredibly frustrating as I would much rather have access to Daft Punk's album on a high bitrate digital release rather than having to use the vinyl release (which I digitised on the first playing).

  • ajdj10 on 21/07/2020 - 22:41

    My dad has an Akai AP B20C turntable from god knows when.
    Would that be better than this?

  • doubleclutching on 21/07/2020 - 23:01
    +1

    You would be better off getting a vintage unit from the 80's from gumtree, I picked up an 80's AKAI (made in Japan) Turntable for $20. Works perfect and is a great way to get into vinyl on the cheap. You can always upgrade later down the track to a better unit.

    • Scrobo on 22/07/2020 - 08:43
      +1

      Well, if you want to take the crapshoot of an old player, that might be damaged, that most likely needs a new stylus, and you want to fuss about with it, then an old player can be fun. If you want good sound and reliability and no hassles then the LP60 is a reasonable way in, personally I'd find an LP120, I think it is the perfect entry level turntable.

    • dcash on 22/07/2020 - 10:05

      Agreed. I've had an AP-D40 from new and it's still going strong. The only thing I've ever done to it was replace the cartridge and stylus.

  • jupy on 21/07/2020 - 23:21
    +5

    The LP60 is widely regarded as pretty terrible. Pick up a LP120 if you want something budget-wise.

    More info on this reddit thread (search LP60)
    Some issues with inner groove distortion, as seen here

    tl;dr: cartridge on the LP60 isn't great, no counterweight, skipping problems and terrible QC.

    edit: if you want help on a budget-wise turntable, check out this thread. I've still not picked up a quality turntable, waiting for a good deal on a Pro-Ject

    • chiefbodge on 22/07/2020 - 03:54
      +2

      Yep. We looked at importing something almost identical to the LP60 (came out of the same factory as the LP60) and it was just so bad that we couldn't in good conscience sell it to anyone at any price (we could've sold it for $100 shipped). Unless you just have some old vinyls you want to chuck on when drunk anyone who buys this would be disappointed fairly quickly after purchase. If you want to get into Vinyl get an LP120 at a minimum (which funnily enough also comes from the same OEM/ODM factory as the LP60). You will be surprised with how many of the worlds turntables come out of the one factory these days.

  • AussieZed on 21/07/2020 - 23:41

    Man I love retro stuff. Any deals on VCRs or audio cassette players? CRT TVs?

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