Too Many Politically Motivated Posts/Commnets

tooblue on 09/06/2020 - 22:07

Recently I noticed there are more and more politically motivated posts and comments, especially related to China.

Whenever there is a post related to China, Huawei or Chinese products there are comments below bring up "CCP" and attacking China. I guess 99% of Australian population doesn't know what CCP is. Yet this group of people gather in one bargain site, diligently bring up such topics and incite debating and hatred. Don't treat me like a fool telling me it is not organised activity.

Ozbargain is a bargain website. I am really disappointed to see it contaminated by these cyber army. We come here for one goal, to find bargains. It is not a battle field to sell political ideology or push political agenda.

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  • arkie0 on 09/06/2020 - 22:13
    +46

    Sounds exactly like what a CCP spy would say, debate.

    Yes - I'm inciting debating.

    • FlamingOak on 10/06/2020 - 00:38
      +3

      Careful, seems to be harsh consequences for inciting debates in Hong Kong at the moment ;)

    • sheamas88 on 10/06/2020 - 09:04
      +5

      Dudes clearly a CCP shill looking at his post history, so your probably not too far off the mark with the "CCP spy" jest.

      Tries to redirect focus from CCP to USA around Coronavirus

      Calls Taiwan a "province of China"

      Posts multple top-level comments to the "Huawei phones security" thread first defending Huawei, then redirecting focus away from Huawei and redirecting it at Western countries.

      • arkie0 on 11/06/2020 - 09:13
        +1

        His language reads like United Front Work Department propaganda, its ironic that he is pushing his own political agenda whilst at the same time saying "It is not a battle field to sell political ideology or push political agenda.". Most CCP propaganda has the same ironic feel about it.

      • xsacha on 12/06/2020 - 01:30
        +1

        Good find. That is really suspect. Especially calling Taiwan a province of China. You would have to assume he lives in China.

  • Trying2SaveABuck on 09/06/2020 - 22:14
    +4

    I guess that is fair enough if you dont want to see the forums just click on the deals icon and you only get the bargins as for the comments dont read them?

    i have learnt so much from ppls post on Ozb it isnt funny about housing, fiance, road laws, cars, cloths, bikies etc

    I think the best thing about Ozb is the community but just like any online platform you are going to get trolls, people with differing ideology and conflicting advice you gotta take the good with the bad

    If you read my post i am generally outspoken and very anti the toxic PC community often i cop a lot of flack from other OZB but i dont take offence people are entitled to there opinion - but true intelligence is understanding some1 elses POV and understanding why you dont agree with it.

  • Dlw on 09/06/2020 - 22:16
    +26

    This place if for bargains?? I thought it was for advice for traffic related incidents when I have no insurance.

    • [Deactivated] on 10/06/2020 - 08:54

      Op doesn't like those either.

  • The Value on 09/06/2020 - 22:22
    +1

    Have you seen the Ozbargain meet ups? It's all Aussie Asians. It's current affairs. It's pop culture. Most people are joking.

    • [Deactivated] on 11/06/2020 - 23:44

      Lol. Tightarse Asians. Where are our black and white peers?

  • netjock on 09/06/2020 - 22:25
    -5

    Recently I noticed there are more and more politically motivated posts and comments, especially related to China.

    You know it isn't about China or the CCP. It is just our way of showing we are cosy with the USA. The Australian government talks like the country is white throughout but it is kept afloat by Chinese money but it just doesn't want to say it. Even 3+ of the biggest companies (Fortescue, BHP, RIO plus the banks) are kept afloat by Chinese money.

    IF China is 30% of our exports then would everyone be voting to accept a 30% decline in value of assets and quality of life? I doubt it. People say stuff they mean but won't act on in reality because it actually hurts their wallet.

  • Frayin on 09/06/2020 - 22:26
    +2

    A bargain is a bargain. I completely understand that a bargain is only worth so much, ethics and principles come into play for a lot of people when something constitutes a bargain.

    Me? I'm too spun in my own life trying to save a dollar wherever I can, so I personally buy from wherever is offering the most quality, for the lowest. Sometimes it's a Chinese product, most of the time it isn't.

    I completely understand the views people bring when they are against Huawei, Xiaomi and so on.

  • Caped Baldy on 09/06/2020 - 22:49
    +9

    below bring up "CCP" and attacking China

    Attacking China like how China treats their protesting students?

    PS I am of Chinese dissent descent

  • RockyRaccoon on 09/06/2020 - 23:06
    +12

    Oh dear, we can’t criticise the CCP. But Trump Boris, climate change are ok?

    Funny how those of left only react to criticism of left viewpoints, just like those of the right do the same with their viewpoints.

    And then again, criticism of religious posts etc.

    Or bargains that are of interest to gamers, or for seniors only.

    And what about those who are against caged eggs.

    Ozbargain, a community of diverse Scrooge’s…

    • Blitzfx on 10/06/2020 - 02:27
      +1

      Oh dear, we can’t criticise the CCP. But Trump Boris, climate change are ok?

      What you have pointed out is the exact problem with the CCP. They are all raised to never question authority and never speak out and criticize, thereby holding the government accountable. Otherwise you pull a magic trick and your whole family disappears.

      The CCP's way of life is fundamentally incompatible with the Australia's values. A racist KKK member is more compatible with a black man that the CCP is with the West.

      • EightImmortals on 10/06/2020 - 08:29
        -2

        As opposed to us who speak out and criticise the government all the bloody time… and it STILL doesn't change anything. I think you are getting confused between the mythos of the 'west' and the actual reality of it. The difference between western government and the CCP is only one of degree from what I can see. As one CCP person put it, in China you can never change the party, but the policies do change, in the west you change parties all the time but the policies remain the same.

        • Blitzfx on 10/06/2020 - 13:13
          +1

          At least we can speak out about the Lost generation and actually got an apology from the government.
          Chinese speaking out about the Uighurs and concentration camps? What? Oh that's right. There's no such thing.

          Plenty of things have changed when people whine at about it at town halls and council general meetings. You just don't hear about it because it's not news worthy.

          As one CCP person put it, in China you can never change the party, but the policies do change, in the west you change parties all the time but the policies remain the same.

          Like what exactly? Example? Maybe the policy YOU want changed doesn't change because Australia don't actually care about it and only you do.

          • RockyRaccoon on 10/06/2020 - 16:32
            +1

            @Blitzfx:

            Like what exactly? Example? Maybe the policy YOU want changed doesn't change because Australia don't actually care about it and only you do.

            Well said

      • petry on 12/07/2020 - 19:43
        -1

        England 's been making black people disappear for decades - its called deportation- reason they're non white.

        America the same.

        The laws introduced in hongkong are in fact weaker than the anti terrorism laws introduced in England America ,and Australia decades ago and constantly being added to.

        The only reason they were introduced in Hongkong where they didn't exist previously was the political trouble caused by American paid agitators, including terrorist training. All part of America's war on china, which has been escalating for years.

        Currently our yank loving government is tying us to india for joint security - yeah that's funny - so we are effectively forced to go to war with China over India.

        Way 2 many dumb aussies swallowing American propaganda. Effectively like England oz now just exists as a name on a place, another yank puppet state.

  • [Deactivated] on 09/06/2020 - 23:33
    +7

    OP, please tell us more about how you think it is 'organised'. Actually, you are simply advocating your own repressive political and cultural indoctrination/ideology and trying to apply it on a free society. Repression works on the repressed, not on free people.

  • crentist on 09/06/2020 - 23:40
    +9

    I guess 99% of Australian population doesn't know what CCP is.
    … Don't treat me like a fool telling me it is not organised activity.

    Wrong on both counts. Anyone with a little bit of global/political awareness knows about the CCP, often more than most other governments in the world. It is the fastest growing country in the world, and a global superpower with very strong economic and social influence in Australia, and most of our regional neighbours. It is now more important to Australia's future than England.
    So why do you think Australians wouldn't know about them? Because you think we are all stupid? You should guess that 99% of Australians do know what the CCP is. But of course many don't care about any news.

    So it doesn't need to be organised. Enough people are concerned about the behaviour of the highly influential Chinese government, so it's not surprising a few of those people would be on this forum and vocal about it.
    I could argue that your post is an organised defence against such attacks criticism, but maybe you think you are just a regular independent person, just like them.

    diligently bring up such topics and incite debating and hatred

    My girlfriend used to think any criticism of her country (by other people) was an attack. Now after being overseas for a while and getting an outside perspective, she is more aware of some legitimate problems back home, and that people aren't just trying to attack and incite hatred every time they open their mouths.

    • leiiv on 10/06/2020 - 14:50

      And usually, hatred to any authoritarian or police state is justified.

  • Aazza on 10/06/2020 - 00:08
    +15

    OP I hope you see this post because this is exactly the problem with the current blind nationalism that is growing in China.
    Criticizing the CCP does NOT equal hating China or the Chinese people.

    The CCP has convinced you and others that the CCP = China and any time people say anything negative about CCP (shock, people care about bargains and human rights??) you automatically assume it's an attack on China as well.

    I don't even have a strong view on the CCP or China, but this blind nationalism has leaked into Australia and it's a really worrying trend.

  • MS Paint on 10/06/2020 - 00:22

    Ozbargain is owned by an Asian Australian but who cares? I definitely don't.

    • ssquid on 10/06/2020 - 06:24
      +1

      Wait, he's not Scottish? His name is a lie!

  • Green peas on 10/06/2020 - 00:40
    +5

    I think everyone is entitled to an opinion, if someone criticises CCP its their opinion, calling them cyber army is just plain wrong. Forums are places people can voice their opinion.

    Coming to a forum, reading what people have to say and then calling them an army is unjust of your part. I am not in support or against any of the people who comment. At the same time, if you believe that people shouldn’t call out, bring up something they believe is wrong than isn’t that what you did?

    Think about why they are saying what they are saying, have a debate. Bring up facts, but don’t call out people because you think they are doing wrong by saying something they believe is wrong.

  • dscott85 on 10/06/2020 - 03:54
    +6

    CCP = do you mean the Chinese Communist Party, the single uncontested political power that has ruled China for decades?

    That owns & controls Chinese media, that demolished the buildings of the poor to make way for Olympic stadiums, that has set up barbed wire enclosed re-educational facilities for minorities, who militarised the South China Sea (creating artificial islands in contested oceans); who is currently putting trade pressure on Australia for suggesting an independent investigation of the Covid 19 pandemic.

    Now that is just a few things off the top of my head as one of the “99% of uninformed Australians”.

    By the way, all governments should be questioned, because it is when people stop questioning that the powers of state are abused.

    • petry on 12/07/2020 - 19:45
      -2

      which Australian media or paper seriously questions the Australian government?

  • brendanm on 10/06/2020 - 06:23
    +2

    Trying to get the big bucks hey? The 50c per shill post not enough, straight up pro CCP threads must bring in good money. Or do they have your family?

  • pegaxs on 10/06/2020 - 07:21
    +4

    I dare you to post up anything caged egg or firearm related then… The CCP commentary runs a pail comparison to those…

    • mapax on 10/06/2020 - 08:49

      Don’t worry fa deals are now banned, accessories are next to be targeted…

  • screensaver on 10/06/2020 - 07:41

    The problem with free speech is that there are a wide variety of opinions and they vary from ignorant, nasty, misinformed, hurtful, to wise and helpful. Its like pissing against the wind sometimes. But thats the price we pay for freedom.

  • [Deactivated] on 10/06/2020 - 08:32
    +1

    We come here for one goal, to find bargains.

    Just stay away from the forum section of ozbargain then. You won't find any bargains in here.

  • [Deactivated] on 10/06/2020 - 08:40

    Most people know what CCP is. Most people are too kind to it.

    Ps. Cyber army? One should really not point fingers.

  • dogboy on 10/06/2020 - 09:33

    When China continues to act like a spoilt little brat with no recognition of human rights, they will continue to come under fire from the international community. I liken them to Nazi Germany in terms of human rights abuses.

  • MynyMouqe on 10/06/2020 - 09:37
    +6

    Waiting for the OP's next post - "Why do people keep insisting that there was a Tiananmen Square massacre, nothing even happened?"

  • Icecold5000 on 10/06/2020 - 09:44

    Classic Wumao post.

  • [Deactivated] on 11/06/2020 - 23:48

    Lol… this gotta be one of the most entertaining ozb post after the WBC graduate asking for advice on bmw.

  • mbck on 05/07/2020 - 21:04

    But you yourself posted that ccp mouthpiece in the other thread…so you're guilty of this too lol.

    https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/535139

    Oh i forgot: do as I say, not as you do or something like that yeh?

  • nahi11 on 05/07/2020 - 22:29

    OP needs to declare his association with the CCP as store reps do when posting deals.

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