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6 Core Haswell Xeon E5 2620 v3 + 8GB DDR4 RAM + Kllisre X99 Motherboard $124US/ $181AUD Shipped @ RE Store via Aliexpress

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good perf/$ cpu+ram+mb combo if you like to tinker

cpu review:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ox0cirdP3k

motherboard review:
https://youtu.be/AvVceGyyvm4?t=112

these are particularly good if you unlock the turbo boost:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YymioiX9SFg

note that these xeons only support ddr4 at 1866mhz, but they do run at quad channel for extra bandwidth, so ideally you'd want 4 sticks of ddr4, this combo only has 2 sticks for dual channel

haswell ipc is around 10% behind current gen, but with the lower clock speed they lose up to 35% to ryzen 3600 in terms of single thread performance:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaL5u3AYgRE

also note you also need your own cooler and motherboard battery not included

8core + 16gb ddr4 combo: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000815034362.html

don't forget 5% cashback from cashrewards/shopback

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  • congo on 04/06/2020 - 10:42
    +9

    Note:
    1: CPU is used, condition good, 1 year warranty
    2: There may have some little physical scratches on the surface of the CPU, this is pretty normal.
    3: All CPU are strictly tested by our store

    • Aequitas on 04/06/2020 - 13:06
      +7

      Scratches on CPU is not really normal…

      • ColonialBoy on 04/06/2020 - 13:27

        Removing thermal paste.

        • Tread on 04/06/2020 - 13:39
          +7

          Isopropol alcohol and a lint-free cloth of some description is what most professionals recommend. Not sure how that would scratch it. If you're trying to use something abrasive instead that's not a great idea.

          • spaceflight on 04/06/2020 - 14:16
            +4

            @Tread: The thermal paste can be abrasive

          • papagoose on 04/06/2020 - 16:50
            +1

            @Tread: tbh if it's just scratches on the IHS it's not a huge deal, lapping isn't so much of a thing these days but probably still would be fine if the scratches are a little deeper

        • drew442 on 04/06/2020 - 17:51
          +3

          No, they're bought as e-waste and as they donor servers are dismantled the CPUs are all thrown into a large bin together.

      • icecream on 04/06/2020 - 18:42

        Engineering Sample?

        • abctoz on 06/06/2020 - 12:34

          these are not ES, those are cheaper/lower clocked and has an ES logo on the ihs, also turbo boost unlock probably wont work on them

  • stumo on 04/06/2020 - 10:50

    I wonder if this couod be made to fit in a 1st gen microserver?

    • bchliu on 04/06/2020 - 18:21
      +1

      Not when the 1st Gen Microservers are running AMD.

  • Dearest77 on 04/06/2020 - 10:54

    mother board is new?

    • abctoz on 04/06/2020 - 10:58
      +2

      motherboard is new no fans

    • Elijah on 04/06/2020 - 11:36
      +6

      heck im still a fan…

    • greatlamp on 04/06/2020 - 12:14
      +1

      Refurbished is a better word. Put together from used parts

      • Diji1 on 04/06/2020 - 12:36
        -1

        No it isn't, the motherboards are new.

        • neomoz on 04/06/2020 - 13:20
          +3

          I think they use refurbished x99 chipsets. The PCB looks to be new.

  • Covid19 on 04/06/2020 - 10:54
    +1

    Would have jumped on it if it had 2 network ports. Looks to be a good combo.

    • nurbsenvi on 04/06/2020 - 13:24
      -1

      Why would you need 2 ports?

      • RedHab on 04/06/2020 - 14:31
        +2

        Firewall duties

  • mostlygordon on 04/06/2020 - 10:55
    +13

    Should we order now for Xmas?

    • abctoz on 04/06/2020 - 10:58
      +6

      tracking info for my last aliexpress order: https://global.cainiao.com/detail.htm?mailNoList=LH348660045…

      • bliz on 04/06/2020 - 11:11

        that's pretty reasonable

      • mostlygordon on 04/06/2020 - 11:12
        +1

        Good stuff. I'm still waiting on IEMs purchased on 4/4. I only buy local these days…

        • abctoz on 04/06/2020 - 11:20

          i noticed a while back some sellers underpriced shipping, one of my items didn't even ship because of this…

      • congo on 04/06/2020 - 11:17

        Did you buy this same model and same seller?
        There are a few other sellers too:
        16GB Ram: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000552987390.html
        atermiter (not sure how they compare to Kllisre?): https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000600178445.html

        • abctoz on 04/06/2020 - 11:19

          there are a variety of motherboards available, you can check the review channel he has covered a good number, the one in the deal is quite a good option IMO compared to the atermiter, which seems to be this version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APFGumn0s1s

        • mostlygordon on 04/06/2020 - 11:22
          +1

          Sellers are not the problem. My order got scanned by 4PX on 5/4, so it was despatched in 1 day.

          • Tuba on 04/06/2020 - 12:51

            @mostlygordon: Not sure it means what you think it does. Ive had orders marked as shipped, but it just means the shipper has a request for shipping, not that theyve collected it. Dispatched in 1 day would be a red flag for me.

            Then again Ive had items marked as still in Sydney while its sitting on my front porch in Qld. I often find I have no idea what they are tracking but it isnt the package.

            • mostlygordon on 04/06/2020 - 16:27

              @Tuba: It was scanned by the shipper i.e:
              2020-04-05 16:06 Domestic Air Cargo Termina,Shenzhen,China / Depart from facility to service provider.
              2020-04-05 01:11 Shenzhen,China / 4PX picked up shipment

  • fordprefect on 04/06/2020 - 11:05
    +5

    "For tax problem , pls make sure you can solve the customs clearance problems by yourself, if you can't solve it, we don't advise you to buy goods in our store. We are not responsible for customs duties. Thanks for your kindly understanding."

    • elusive on 04/06/2020 - 11:10
      +4

      That's a standard warning on a lot of Aliexpress storefronts. For Australia specifically, Aliexpress adds GST already.

      • [Deactivated] on 04/06/2020 - 12:05

        Yep, it only for country that require you send ID + payment to get item released from customs.

  • digitizer on 04/06/2020 - 11:06
    +11

    Would rather get a 3770 in SF with case and disk. Faster and can be had for around $200 with many local options

    • congo on 04/06/2020 - 11:18
      +1

      link?
      SF?

      • digitizer on 04/06/2020 - 11:54

        SFF sorry, small form factor
        Can often find locally to avoid shipping costs as these were used by businesses a lot
        Also check 4770 - usually not worth the price increase but people sell at different prices
        https://www.ebay.com.au/sch/179/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=3770&_…

        • congo on 04/06/2020 - 12:08

          Ah got you.
          An old/used PC in other words.

          • greatlamp on 04/06/2020 - 12:18
            +2

            @congo: It would be almost 2x as fast

            But yeah, this deal is also used parts

            • Diji1 on 04/06/2020 - 12:37
              +1

              @greatlamp: The motherboard is new on this system. That is the part that usually fails while the CPU does not.

              • greatlamp on 04/06/2020 - 16:32

                @Diji1: The company that makes these is using salvaged parts, turning dual socket motherboards into single socket, etc.

                I would hope that all the capacitors are replaced with new ones, but they may be recycled

            • bobsmidie on 04/06/2020 - 18:12

              @greatlamp: The i7-3770 would be twice as fast as this???

          • troyrobbo on 05/06/2020 - 22:31

            @congo: Note:
            1: CPU is used, condition good, 1 year warranty
            2: There may have some little physical scratches on the surface of the CPU, this is pretty normal.

            So, what you're selling???

        • ColonialBoy on 04/06/2020 - 13:33

          I was looking at this setup. They only issue I have is buying a low profile graphics card.

          I'm a bit of a weirdo in that I want 3 HDMI - home theatre receiver, 32 inch monitor and 55 inch tv. I've sort of gravitated to this configuration.

          • Nom on 04/06/2020 - 22:05

            @ColonialBoy: You just need any video card with three outputs (which is most cards) - you can convert anything to HDMI with cheap adaptors.

    • Ahbal on 04/06/2020 - 11:44

      yep i bought one for 215 shipped off FB marketplace. 3770, 8gb ram, intel ssd, disc drive. Throw in a low profile gpu and you got an awesome pc until next gen ampere comes out and hopefully gives us better prices with the consoles launch (think 700 series).

      • digitizer on 04/06/2020 - 11:58

        Haha I won't find it now, but saw a pic of an optiplex case with a piece hacked out with a saw and a full size gpu inside. Was sticking out the case of course but hey, if you are on a budget.. xD
        Plus good airflow as a bonus

    • Stoz on 04/06/2020 - 12:59

      i7-7700 has a bit faster single core performance but the Xeon E5 2620 has faster multi core performance (by a bigger margin)

      See here: https://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/compare_cpu-intel_xeon_e5_2620…

      • DonWilson on 04/06/2020 - 13:05

        i7-7700

        This is a typo. Stoz means i7-3770.

        • Stoz on 04/06/2020 - 13:07

          Yeah whops. Can't seem to edit my comment either. The link goes to the correct i7-3770 which is the processor that the person I was replying to mentioned.

        • Stoz on 04/06/2020 - 16:33
          +2

          Not to be mean, but Userbenchmark has a pretty bad reputation now and is banned from lots of tech websites and subreddits. They've applied really weird weightings to their benchmarks to try to benefit processors with less cores and specifically, Intel processors.

          Check this comparison I found myself:

          https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-7700-vs-…

          Somehow the effective speed of the Ryzen is +6%, even though the average score is +17%, the single core is +16%, the dual core is +18%, the quad core is +23% and the octa core is +36%, and overclocked scores tell a similar story

          Also they call anyone that criticises them "an army of shills".

          • digitizer on 04/06/2020 - 21:20
            -2

            @Stoz: Hey yeah it's definitely questionable but I've personally found it to be pretty spot on (have both intels and ryzens so have little to no bias). One has to understand that it's a bunch of measurements from very different computers with different components like memory and motherboards. Barely any real-world usage uses 1 core or all cores at once so I find looking at their 1/2/4/8/64 core numbers super useful for judging benefit for the specific use-case and not something that can easily find elsewhere

            • brosk1s on 04/06/2020 - 21:55
              +4

              @digitizer: Spot on for what? Userbenchmark didn't get its bad rep from doing a poor job of designing tests, userbenchmark got its bad rep because their admin designs their tests to perform best for their own 4-core Intel processor, picks fights with great rep reviewers over why its results vary so greatly from industry standards like Cinebench, Geekbench, 3dmark and actual gaming benchmarks.

              Edit: Here's an example of what I meant by optimised for 4 core intel processors. 8-core CPUs, even the i9-9900k underperform.

              Single-core lead of a 9900K over a 7700K according to Userbenchmark - 6%.
              Cinebench R20 difference - 11% (518 vs 466)

              8-core lead of a 9900K over a 7700K according to Userbenchmark - 49%.
              Cinebench R20 difference - 121% (4995 vs 2257)

              Their admin also posts childish comments like "Ryzen 4000 Mobile CPUs offer benchmark busting multi-core performance on the go, but marketing hype aside, it’s unclear how this will translate to real world performance gains for laptop users. Gamers are better off with low latency CPUs. At launch, the top GPU available in a 4000 series laptop is the RTX 2060. Since the GPU is largely responsible for overall gaming performance, the Ryzen 4000 laptops will offer mid tier gaming performance at best. Pairing stronger GPUs would be sub optimal because the Zen latency bottleneck becomes increasingly severe with more powerful GPUs.

              Streamers and media producers, who have historically benefited from CPU cores, are better off using the GPU (NVENC or QuickSync) for encoding. Leading media creation applications including both DaVinci Resolve and Adobe Premiere Pro are largely GPU bound. Sixteen threads can indeed be useful in corner case workloads (UserBenchmark 64-core, Cinebench, Handbrake (CPU mode), Blender (CPU mode)) but for the majority of consumers most of the threads will remain idle. With low power consumption and high core counts, the 4000 range, on paper at least, is a perfect fit for the datacenter. AMD should focus on delivering a platform that offers performance where end users actually need it rather than targeting inexperienced gamers with the same old "moar cores" mantra."

              and

              "The 3300X is a 4-core Ryzen CPU. Priced at just $120 USD, it offers far better value to gamers than all the Ryzen CPUs before it. This is great news for potential buyers, and bad luck for gamers that recently spent nearly three times more on the comparable 8-core 3700X. The reduction from eight to four cores results in more efficient caching and higher boost clocks. AMD’s marketing has abruptly broken from the firmly established “moar cores” mantra to a conveniently realistic: four cores are okay. Maybe they had an epiphany: “less coars”! Shifting goalposts this quickly reveals both an unhealthy focus on first time buyers and a brazen disregard for existing customers. Marketing aside, the 3300X remains constrained by high architectural latency and the associated gaming bottleneck (frame drops). Comparing the 3300X to the Intel Core i3-10100 shows that, for similar money, the i3-10100 delivers around 10% better gaming performance. Aside from the mob of marketers that steamroll social media with anonymous accounts (reddit, forums, comments etc.), gamers will be hard pressed to find arguments in favor of the 3300X over the i3-10100. In order to remain viable, the higher end Ryzen CPUs will need to see substantial price cuts over the coming days"

              The sad part is they're just dragging Intel's rep down, they're in no way sponsored by Intel, its just rabid fanboyism that makes their comments seem like it came from a highschool drama queen, not a reputable benchmark website. I own a Intel MBP, 21" iMac and Ryzen PC too, but that's not relevant to the actual problem

  • tellhimhesdreaming on 04/06/2020 - 11:12
    +2

    Interesting find OP, thanks for posting.

  • hami101 on 04/06/2020 - 11:13

    Anyone know if the motherboard supports BCLK overclocking?

    • abctoz on 04/06/2020 - 11:21
      +3

      don't recommend trying to overclock on this particular motherboard, the reviewer bricked his trying bios overclock..

      think linus did a video a while back, you'll won't get much out of these xeons

  • FabMan on 04/06/2020 - 11:19
    +14

    Ahh yes, the well known motherboard manufacturer Kllisre.

      • Diji1 on 04/06/2020 - 12:39

        The motherboards are new, made specifically because of the glut of old xeons, and they work fine as shown in countless videos now.

        • Miami Mall Alien on 04/06/2020 - 12:43
          -1

          I would rather buy recent-model, second-hand parts from reputable brands off Gumtree than buy a used, ancient CPU from 2014 paired with some questionable motherboard and RAM.

          they work fine as shown in countless videos now.

          Countless videos of what? Some motherboard getting to POST and booting into an OS? That's hardly a definitive answer as to this brand's reliability.

          • pyr0maniac on 04/06/2020 - 14:01

            @Miami Mall Alien:

            I would rather buy recent-model, second-hand parts from reputable brands off Gumtree

            Please enlighten us on where to get a recent-model, second-hand CPU, motherboard and RAM for $181

      • FabMan on 04/06/2020 - 14:51

        I searched for motherboard drivers, I didn't see any. I wonder if that will be an issue.

  • brendanm on 04/06/2020 - 11:27

    Is this overkill for a Nas? Can't see if the motherboard supports any sort of raid, or how many data sockets it has.

    • stratbargain on 04/06/2020 - 11:36
      +5

      Grab a Dell h310 for about $30-$50 off ebay and you can run 8 X SAS or SATA drives

      https://techmattr.wordpress.com/2016/04/11/updated-sas-hba-c…

      I just built something similar. 8 second hand 6TB 7200 SAS drives for $100 a pop. 48TB NAS (42TB useable) for around $1000-$1100.

      Overkill for purely a NAS but could come in handy if you are running Docker containers with Plex, VM's, sonarr, radarr etc.

    • [Deactivated] on 04/06/2020 - 11:39
      +3

      Depends. Overkill for just a samba server, since raspberry can do. But for plex, vm, etc, then it should be good. Also depends on the os. If you are using freenas, it is ram hungry.

      Bare in mind though to everyone, that this CPU do not have internal gpu like many out there. Meaning no display, unless u add gpu.

      • brendanm on 04/06/2020 - 13:16

        Yes would be for transcoding Plex as well, most nas seem to struggle with this. Aware of the GPU issue, won't need one once it's all set up.

        • [Deactivated] on 04/06/2020 - 14:50

          Freenas needs gpu to install, not to run though.

          What os are you planning to use?

          • brendanm on 04/06/2020 - 15:23

            @[Deactivated]: No idea, very new to the world of Nas, though have seen FreeNAS mentioned the most.

            • [Deactivated] on 04/06/2020 - 15:34

              @brendanm: I'm a freenas fan, I think it is the easiest, most feature heavy (plugins and vm) and free, and lots of support, and stable than any other free ones.

              Just be aware that the lan chip is realtek which is not compatible with freenas, so u need to add intel nic.

              My opinion? Buy something else…

              • brendanm on 04/06/2020 - 16:14

                @[Deactivated]: Appreciate the info, looks like buying something else is the best option. The price vs processing power of the Nas that are ready to go seems quite lacking. Will have to do some research.

    • Diji1 on 04/06/2020 - 12:40

      A NAS is meant to be a low power computer to save money but this is a server CPU ie. it uses a lot of power.

      • brendanm on 04/06/2020 - 13:17
        +2

        I don't really care about the power aspect, I just want something that can transcode Plex and run raid with a decent amount of drives.

        • [Deactivated] on 04/06/2020 - 14:52
          +1

          I hate it when seeing people neg without explaining why. What a coward.

          What's wrong with what he wants?

          • brendanm on 04/06/2020 - 16:20

            @[Deactivated]: Neggers gonna neg. Someone (cough diji1 cough) might be upset thinking I don't care about filthy coal being burnt. S/he needn't worry as my solar exports more than I use, hence power consumption isn't really an issue.

  • vash12 on 04/06/2020 - 11:38

    Damn upgraded my Nas to ryzen 1600af recently.

    Should of wait and get this instead. Alot cheaper

  • UNFKNBLVBL on 04/06/2020 - 11:40
    +3

    probably worth doing research, most of these Chinese "new" motherboards are new boards from recycled server gear, so most likely C612 chipset not X99, still LGA2011-3 but technically different. I doubt they can run the enthusiast CPU's. In saying that I have an asrock x99 and I run a 2667 v3 (with 5% BCLK overclock) because I find xeons better value

    CPU and RAM there isn't much risk, they should be fine

    also the all core turbo unlock isn't as practical as it sounds if you need to reset cmos or reinstall windows you need to redo some or all of the steps

    • abctoz on 04/06/2020 - 11:50

      i believe there is a turbo unlock method where you simply mod the bios and that is in the video i linked

      there are certainly limitations with these motherboards, the vrms are quite weak for one and that immediately limits the cpu's you'd want to run. the reviewer actually bricked his trying to overclock the 1650v3 i believe, so definitely stay away from there too…

      • UNFKNBLVBL on 04/06/2020 - 12:07

        ah yeah nice, the way I had looked into it previously didn't work like that
        I just watched the video and he mentions the process I knew of at the start :p

    • [Deactivated] on 04/06/2020 - 12:15

      If only these type of boards support up to 128GB. If so it can make pretty decent freenas builds. The board that support 128Gb goes 100 USD which you might as well spend a bit more second hand server gear with better stability.

      • UNFKNBLVBL on 04/06/2020 - 12:33

        good chance it does support 4x32gb sticks, my motherboard doesn't support ECC but I am running 2x32GB ECC Registered sticks in it
        just depends if you want to take the risk though as it might not

  • Kapinny on 04/06/2020 - 11:41
    +2

    Thanks Tech Yes Citizens!

  • Bludger on 04/06/2020 - 12:02
    +3

    Have built several nas systems using these, they are not particularly power friendly.

  • Rumbaar on 04/06/2020 - 12:06

    If tinkering is your thing, and wanting a server grade service. You can get a Dell 710/610 for ~$300-400 these days. You're limited with these type of custom boards, and a lot of work still to go to get it a working unit.

    • congo on 04/06/2020 - 12:15
      +2

      I don't think that my wife would like having a few Dell PowerEdge servers in the living room :-)
      If only I had a garage and not a small apartment.

      • [Deactivated] on 04/06/2020 - 12:18

        It a great white noise maker, tell her that :)

      • bdl on 04/06/2020 - 12:31
        +1

        If you fill the living room with servers, I'm sure your wife will find a garage for you to sleep in! :)

    • p1 ama on 04/06/2020 - 12:40

      You can get a Dell 710/610 for ~$300-400 these days.

      That's fine if you have a rack in the basement, but they're just way too loud to put in the corner of your study or bedroom.

  • Zanadar on 04/06/2020 - 12:10
    -7

    Aliexpress? Probably fake chinese crap.

    • K1LL3R12 on 04/06/2020 - 12:23
      +2

      Unlikely.
      A lot of these cpu's are used (sold as scrap to China) the RAM is generally new, and the motherboard parts are scavenged from non functioning boards (generally some parts are damaged and the rest salvaged) and then made into "new" boards.

      • FabMan on 04/06/2020 - 14:51

        Is this known to be a real thing, sounds interesting.

        • abctoz on 04/06/2020 - 16:19
          +2

          server farms from big tech firms upgrade when something with better power efficiency comes around, that happens every few years

          these xeons cost upwards of thousands of dollars each when they release, but they get auctioned off for peanuts when they get upgraded, since apparently nobody wants them

          • FabMan on 04/06/2020 - 16:39

            @abctoz: And they Frankenstein motherboards too?

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