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R5-3500X RTX 2060 6GB Gaming PC [B350/240G]: $999 + Delivery @ TechFast
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Agree with the ram, 8gb is not enough and single channel is just a waste.
But I can't agree with your point on storage. most people already have enough hard drives, and can just move it over easily enough, an option to remove the ssd would even be good, but a spare ssd is always good anyway. If it's your very first pc then ye you will need another hard drive, but you can get 4TB for like $90 easily enough.
While I agree with you, the deal is for an out of box gaming PC. Not for a "you can turn it into a gaming PC later" gaming PC.
8gb is not enough
For gaming alone it's still enough.
I would rather say its ok for many games rather than a blanket statement. There are definitely games from this last year that max out 8GB so you cant have chrome or discord or anything in the background
@[Deactivated]: I run Star Citizen on a build with lower specs than the 3500X/RTX2060 and it's almost playable on 8GB. Upped to 16GB and it's perfect, so I would think this higher end build with an extra stick would be even better.
Star Citizen is basically a whole bunch of fancy high tech demo's pieced together on an unstable platform so it's a good benchmark.
But what if you need to run multiple OzBargain tabs in Chrome?
Where you getting this $90 4tb.. I could do with one of those
These 4TB drives for $90 are 5400rpm Seagate Expansion drives correct? Those wouldn't be ideal for gaming, so we're actually looking at around $120-150, but fair point on the storage and RAM.
What does it say about our society when a three-sentence message requires a summary? Have we really sunk so low?
i dont know why you're being downvoted. you make valid points. this is not a PC that can handle modern AAA titles. It will struggle with the single channel 8GB ram
Because it's simply wrong? Owl said that this is not a gaming PC when he should have said this is not a high end gaming PC. It has enough power to run AAA games fine… on lower settings.
Perhaps people should have made those points rather than simply downvoting him though.You don't usually buy a gaming PC to just manage to play current titles on low settings - usually you want to be able to play future games too.
@sam buster: That's how it works on the internet with voting systems. You get downvoted for saying silly things like "8GB of RAM is so 2005". Not everyone can afford a $2000-$3000 high end system anyway. It's why these budget systems exist.
Saying lowest settings isn't entirely true. I can play AAA titles with my i5-4670/GTX1070 build on higher settings than low ;)
@Clear: Yes I agree with you. Back in 2005, I could only afford a PC with 2GB RAM. Stupid comment will get downvoted
@Scythic: 2GB of RAM was very good for 2005.
Windows XP could only handle a max of 3GB - and that had to be two absolutley identical sticks.
I bought a PC with the intention of playing games: with SLi graphics cards, the second dual core processor run on the first (commercial) 64-bit OS. It cost almost $5000 and had 2GB (2x 1GB) of RAM.
There was little advantage of having dedicated graphics memory either, as XP would just duplicated it onto the main RAM.
@sam buster: It's a pretty stupid comment though. Can't play crysis?? Come on.
@buckster: Maybe he was being sarcastic. Surely no one is that stupid to think that's not a gaming Pc and can't crysis. Damn my 2012 laptop could crysis
@buckster: I'm afraid I'm out of the loop with what games can and can't be played on what specced machines.
That's why the discussion the first comment has sparked has been useful to me.
Fair enough, it was innacurate through unhelpful hyperbole, but from the OP I wouldn't have known if it was a good or bad Gaming PC.@sam buster: And the fact that comment, (and FrozenFred's) got downvoted is a perfect example of the idiocy of most downvoting.
Saying this isn't a gaming PC because it has a 240gb hard drive and 8gb of RAM is laughable. There are games you wouldn't want at max settings - but this is more than competent for a huge number of users.
I have the same build but with a 1660 GPU.
I play Modern Warfare at 1440p, High settings, MAX Anti-Aliasing and I still get 75fps.I suspect this would do even better. RAM is easy enough to upgrade at a later date if you need it.
I'd definitely consider this a "gaming PC"You're wrong - 2060 would fine Crysis just fine on max settings…
It was clearly a troll comment. But a very old one. Back in the day, people usually took Crysis (a PC game released in 2007) as an example. But ffs, it's 2020. Be creative a little
Unfortunately I haven't kept up much with the times in the gaming world but yeah I get your point.
Crysis Recommended Requirements
CPU: Core 2 Duo 2.2 GHz/Athlon X2 4400+ or better
CPU SPEED: Core 2 Duo 2.2 GHz/Athlon X2 4400+ or better
RAM: 2 GB
OS: Windows XP/Vista/7
VIDEO CARD: Supported chipsets: NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS with 640MB RAM or similar.
TOTAL VIDEO RAM: 640 MB
3D: Yes
HARDWARE T&L: Yes
PIXEL SHADER: 3.0
VERTEX SHADER: 3.0
DIRECTX VERSION: 9.0c (included)
SOUND CARD: Yes
FREE DISK SPACE: 12 GB
DVD-ROM: 8X speed DVD-ROM. This game contains technology intended to prevent copying that may conflict with some DVD-ROM, DVD-RW and virtual drives.Now I'm not much of a gamer, but their specs are hardly "gaming PC" level.
The problem is that you can define anything to be a gaming PC really. FWIW, the only way you can judge how good value something like this is is to compare it to the value of its constituent parts.
Given that the 3500X is around $200 or so on AliExpress (not sure if that's still true), and an RTX 2060 is over $600, I think that this is reasonably good value. I'd say that it's pretty hard to get a better peforming gaming PC for $1000 regardless of what you do. If you want more RAM, more storage or whatever, you'll have to cut the GPU to maybe 1660 Super. No matter how you spin it, you'll never get more fps from a 1660S vs a 2060.
Most prebuilts combine a few flashy parts like CPU, RAM, or HDD, and then put in a bunch of incredibly sup par parts. Usually, the case is average at best, the mobo is as basic as can be, and the PSU is absolute rubbish. The GPU is either nonexistent or the lowest end component possible. I don't think I've seen a prebuilt that I've actually considered viable in any sense.
Bit disappointing that 1. the ram is single channel and 2. only 8gb by default, 8 is not enough. Meaning at a minimum you have to spend at least an extra $90 for 1 x 8gb stick and then probably upgrade the psu too for $90
Single channel is up to a 30% performance lost. See video. https://youtu.be/kCg7eVN6N9w
Single channel 8gb stick stutters hard in cod warzone. See video https://youtu.be/UhXBOUEPeb4
Sorry for my ignorance but is it stuttering because it's not dual channel or because it's just 8GB?
Your "stutter" links not working. Dont believe you.
@mrvaluepack: dont believe him, he's working for big ram!
@deliriousdave: Actually he works for King Ston
@mrvaluepack: They closed their account after I posted the link, try this video or search 8gb warzone on youtube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9TYPJFjlXE
more like 3-5% performance, but the point is the price of 2x4gb compared to 1x8gb is less than 5% difference. And I guess 8gb is ok if you have nothing else open. but most people are gonna have other stuff open, like chrome, discord, maybe spotify, etc.
im at 12.5gb playing just league
This website completely sums up the confusion about single vs dual channel and ram speed for ryzen 3000 cpus.
https://www.hardwaretimes.com/dual-channel-vs-single-channel…For eg Asassins creed Origins
2400mhz single channel avg fps: 47fps
2400mhz dual channel avg fps: 81fps3200mhz single channel avg fps: 68fps
3200 dual channel avg fps: 98fpsThanks. It's interesting that to see substantially slower RAM in dual channels can yield much better results.
Dont think it is very good for the money, but when i click go to deal, it shows $1099.00?
Gotta use the coupon.
use the code to get the discounted price
There's a discount code in the post.
Are there builds that are less gaming heavy and more CPU focused? I'm looking for a build that is geared to Adobe tools and casual gaming ie 3700X and 2060 instead of 2080 etc.
there have been prodcutivity focused builds from them… seen a few advertised in the past.
Probably just best to build your own. If your knowledgeable enough to know what you want, you're 1 youtube tutorial away from learning how to build it yourself.
Oh I've built systems before but at times the techfast pre-builts come out on top price wise after selling off the components I don't need.
CPU doesn't get a good write up. Better of just spending a little more and getting a 3600 with SMT. Although as per the article, it seems that the 3500x is sold cheaply as an OEM option, hence why Techfast is using them. https://www.techspot.com/review/1966-amd-ryzen-5-3500x/
I bought one of the old packages and paid the upgrade to 3600. Its fine for most games, will bottleneck some but at 1k for everything there are going to need to be costs cut.
Yeah it's not a great pairing with my 5700, I find it maxing out in AC Odyssey and Battlefield 1 a little more than I'd like. I'm probably going to upgrade to a 3700XT next year.
for gaming a system like this isnt very cost effective. Midas well get a PS4 pro or hang out for Ps5 which will prob still cost 1/2 of what this costs
You're not going to get much love anywhere with that suggestion
Obviously PC lovers dont like consoles but just comparing what ur actually getting for your Money. Hardcore PC users will pay more and get something better and prob would touch this
I have no allegiance to the stupid PC vs console debate - I have both and they absolutely have their own place in the market. I just disagree with everything you say.
I think $1k for a fully assembled 3500x/2600 machine is not bad value.
If someone is in the market for a PC I don't think a console is like for like
To say the PS5 is going to be $500 is just funny.
A PS4 pro sells for half the price of this pc, so there's no way the ps5 will be the same.
Initial cost is higher on pc while the console cost builds up after purchase. If you're happy with the limitations of console go for it.
Assuming this is the nvidia rtx 2060 super?
Think I might grab this.
CheersI don't see Super anywhere on the specs, I would assume it's a regular 2060
Thanks. They have listed as another option website for extra. Cheers
Will be dropping into warzone soon enough.
Thanks Luke
@elcheapodeniro: OR GULAG
@Mozzlah: Hahaha. Plunder is the life for me.
Live Die Repeat.
@elcheapodeniro: I might hit up plunder just to finish off my gun skins. Way too hard on warzone
When will B550 boards be available?
Mid June
Mid June I believe.
From Techfast? They focus on hardware they can make good margin on, may not be an option any time soon.
Sorry for a noob question… What's a good minimum gaming PC for playing VR games (namely half life)…
This should be pretty good for a budget vr option.
you could probably go cheaper than even this for half life alyx, it is very well optimised. I would look for at least 6gb of vram and it tends to run a tad better on nvidia cards. Any of the GTX1660 series will run it great, and an RX580 will work fine as well. for CPU all it needs is a decent quad core anything from the last 8 years will be fine. make sure you have 16gb of RAM for half life alyx if you get this you will need to add another 8gb stick.
Do you test systems before sending them out?
My friend purchased a system from you that arrived yesterday and will not power on
That would be a good question actually.. Thinking of buying a pre-built system for my mate
They (say that they) do test them. It's possible something gets loose in transportation though, so may want to just have them check over all the cables to make sure.
Hi, yes, every system is fully stress tested before shipping. As others have said if it doesn't boot upon receipt it would be an issue in transit. Our support team can assist via [email protected] so please ask your friend to email if they haven't already. Cheers.
This stress testing process was not very good for my 5700 build. They didn't check junction temps, so while the legacy sensors were measuring 67c which is normal my junction temp was well in excess of 100c and the fans spun up like crazy. Your team is dealing with my card now but I'm just giving feedback on the testing methods.
Update: a cable had come loose during transit. PC now working
Great deal!!!
Nice deal Luke, Just want to ask what brand PSU is used for the Gold 750w upgrade? and if its possible to get the boxes sent out with the PC? Thanks
Gigabyte G750H has been the staple for some time - the disclaimer that brands/model can vary still applies though.
Thanks for the reply Luke! And is there any chance of getting component boxes with the PC?
Not really sorry. Some components come OEM/non retail packaging, but more so operationally we're not setup to store packaging for specific builds that are in various stages of pick/build/test/packing.
I asked PCCG to place all the packaging/documentation within the delivery box and they did, pretty good.
@aussiekid: pccg are the goat. i ordered parts for a PC 2 weeks after my brother ordered a pre-built from TF and got it across Australia, in 3 working days. PLE have been nothing but rude to me during the quarantine time, I'd sooner pay for shipping over East then deal with them now.
Any bargains on small form pc builds??
How many noobs fall for these SMH
Can we build up a better one with this price? I am genuinely asking.
A quick look at pcpartpicker and similar websites shows that the price really is pretty sweet. You'd be hard pressed to build a similar config for this much (of course, you'd have to make reasonable adjustments - for eg., this config has 3500x, which is mostly available through OEM channels; and I would not go with the case on offer if I was building it separately)
Worth getting if this is the config you're after. Price is not an issue.
The kicker with these prices is the no name components. It's the ultimate noob trap, slap a noname 750W PSU , people things it's good because muh "750". Why does upgrading mobo cost $150 to MSI mortar b450?, because they use nasty lowest tier parts.
Do yourself a favour and build yourself a PC with known brands for a tad more. Where you check the review of every component yourself, internet is a wonderful tool.
If your already trying to save money(which most people are if they're going techfast) I'm sure you have the time to do some research on components and basic PC building.
@Top G: Completely agree. That's where the money's being saved.
I would much rather go for at least an 80+ Bronze 650w, instead of the 750w advertised. And I would double check the SSD, RAM and Case specs. Then again, I'm pretty sure I'll end up spending more than $999 :). You get what you pay for, I s'pose.because they use nasty lowest tier parts
You've fully bought yourself into the PCMR hype, don't worry, I have too. The worrying thing is when you think you're the majority. That's just not true. The number of people who care about what parts are in their PC is a minority and has been for a very long time. I would never use the cheapest parts because to me, my computer is more than just "something that works", but for the overwhelming majority of people, that's exactly what it is.
The market of this sort of system is not you or me. That's fine.
Do yourself a favour and build yourself a PC with known brands for a tad more. Where you check the review of every component yourself, internet is a wonderful tool.
Oh please, stop proselytising. Do you build your car with parts too? Did you build your own bathroom and your own kitchen? Did you solder your own amplifier? Do you build your own speakers?
It's great that it's an interest for you, it's mine too. But pretending like the majority of people care is silly. Most people just want to turn on their PC and play games or check their FB.
@p1 ama: I agree with everything you've said.
Also have to consider troubleshooting and warranty. If a problem occurs in a custom build, you need to troubleshoot and isolate the problem. That's before finally sending off the specific part for a solution. When buying a pre built (or custom pre built) it comes with a complete warranty of the entire build. A problem occurs, send the whole thing back, no troubleshooting etc.
This plays into your explanation of people who build vs who want to plug and play.
@Frayin: Well said. And re warranty, is exactly the reason I now suggest that people buy these machines when they ask me to build them a PC. I have escaped many lifetimes acting as free tech support.
@Top G: without evidence/facts your theories are just conspiratory and fear mongering
for example, people get scared because techfast use 'unknown' motherboard brands from biostar, but they don't realise these guys have been around since 1986 and cater mainly to server market, wait server market doesn't that mean they know a thing or two about quality and reliability? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biostar
it's all good and well to follow the consensus and build your own so you get 'quality' parts, but in reality you're wasting hundreds of dollars trusting groupthink
@Top G: Gigabyte G750H PSU as per Luke's comment above.
Spec for spec, no you cannot build anything better for the same price. However, once you start configuring the base spec to higher quality/better parts, then the price go up pretty fast that you better off build yourself.
There's also the option of buying this, then upgrade parts yourself and sell what you don't use. Depends on your Gumtree skill you may save a fair bit of money. It's too much hassle for me though.
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