Want to Buy a SUV

rohitroygre on 22/05/2020 - 14:41
Last edited 27/10/2020 - 17:41 by 1 other user

Hello,

I am looking to buy a brand new SUV for my family. I have short-listed three cars: Toyota RAV4, Mazda CX-5 and Hyundai Tucson. But I am open to any other suitable vehicles and brands as well.

I have heard from a friend that the car prices have gone down due to current COVID-19 circumstances. My friend also mentioned that one of his client bought a car whose RRP was $32,990 and he negotiated it to $22,450 and bought it. I don't know which brand and model was the car.

Can you help me in understanding whether car companies are actually negotiating this much? Has anyone bought a new car recently and negotiated the price? Any advice will help.

Thank you.

Mod 27/10: This thread was inadvertently double merged, comments below may appear out of order or not flowing as expected, as this forum topic had to be merged back.

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  • rohitroygre on 27/10/2020 - 15:11
    +1
    Merged from Need to Buy a Medium SUV and Select between Few Different Cars

    Hello,

    I live in Melbourne VIC. I am looking to buy a Medium SUV. I don't need anything fancy or too stylish. I just need a basic family car which can do the job and which I can have for at least next 5-6 years. I have shortlisted three cars. Price won't be an issue but obviously I would like to spend wisely.

    Kia Sportage SX Petrol Automatic FWD ($32,990 Driveaway)
    Hyundai Tucson MY20 Active X 2.0L Petrol 6-Speed Automatic 2WD ($34,990 Driveaway)
    Mazda CX-5 Medium SUV Maxx Sport Petrol Automatic FWD ($38,240 Driveaway)

    Which of these cars do you think will be best for me to buy? Or do you have any other better options? I do understand that this will depend on many factors. I just want some views and opinions.

    Thank you.

    • rohitroygre on 22/05/2020 - 14:41
      Merged from Want to Buy a SUV

      Hello,

      I am looking to buy a brand new SUV for my family. I have short-listed three cars: Toyota RAV4, Mazda CX-5 and Hyundai Tucson. But I am open to any other suitable vehicles and brands as well.

      I have heard from a friend that the car prices have gone down due to current COVID-19 circumstances. My friend also mentioned that one of his client bought a car whose RRP was $32,990 and he negotiated it to $22,450 and bought it. I don't know which brand and model was the car.

      Can you help me in understanding whether car companies are actually negotiating this much? Has anyone bought a new car recently and negotiated the price? Any advice will help.

      Thank you.

      • spackbace on 22/05/2020 - 14:43
        +4

        Are you buying a car or a discount?

        Have you driven all 3 cars? As all 3 offers pros and cons of the others.

        I can assure you that negotiation on the new RAV4 is fairly minimal (yes, less than 10% off for petrol cars, even less for hybrid).

        There's always a 'friend' with a story. Unless your friend shows you their contract, their advice is pointless

        • HeWhoKnows on 23/05/2020 - 13:05

          More likely the friend bought a demonstrator or MY19 model or even a traded 2019 model. You never know the full story.
          Obviously what ever it was, the dealer was very keen to move it.

          • spackbace on 23/05/2020 - 15:18

            @HeWhoKnows: Could be anything

            A manufacturer sets the RRP, but then often has sales far lower than that. Kluger, for instance, is on special around $10k less than RRP.

            Could've even been a Holden during the fire sale

      • GG57 on 22/05/2020 - 14:44
        +1

        That discount seems to be excessive to me, but you won't know until you start negotiating with your local dealers.

        BTW, be prepared for your selected options in vehicles to be questioned here.
        And maybe change the post title to remove "Need", and replace it with "Want".

        • RM on 22/05/2020 - 15:11
          +1

          Unless it was a Holden

        • rohitroygre on 22/05/2020 - 17:51
          +1

          Changed to “Want”. Thanks.

      • brad1-8tsi on 22/05/2020 - 15:13
        +2

        I'd think anything that has dropped 30% probably has a build date from 2018 or earlier or is simply a very undesirable car… or both.

        All 3 cars are good. Drive them and pick the one you like. You won't get 30% off, especially as you probably aren't a great negotiater (if you have to ask, etc).

        GLWP

      • RM on 22/05/2020 - 15:17
        +2

        All three are comparable however different. Suggest you test drive all 3 and then see which one do you see yourselves driving for a few years to come.

        For the price range, you would want something you really enjoy and not sulk just cause you got a good deal.

        Toyotas generally don't offer huge discounts - even in today's times, I would be very surprised if they dropped their price massively.
        Mazda/Hyundai - you need to be at the right dealer at the right time for them to agree on a decent discount.

        Test drive these cars and make up your mind
        Keep a price point - not a price that you wish but something with relevance (like previous buyers etc) will be good
        Be patient and keep shopping around…atleast 3 to 4 dealers.

      • [Deactivated] on 22/05/2020 - 15:46

        There's no reason for brand new cars to decline that much due to COVID-19, the slight drop in the AUD might even contribute to a rise. Second hand ones in another 6 months on the other hand……

        • spackbace on 22/05/2020 - 16:50

          Yeah, Toyota have been taking up market share from other makes, and we've been flat out since late-April.

          Trust me, dealers aren't worried about their stock any more. They're going into EOFY sales like normal and expecting decent numbers

          • JohnWick1980 on 22/05/2020 - 16:58
            +1

            @spackbace: Being in the forefront with Hybrid technology coupled with reliability, that is not surprising!

      • JohnWick1980 on 22/05/2020 - 16:49
        +1

        For the cars you are considering, that level of discounting is not realistic. Check Whirlpool, there are separate threads for the cars you have listed and prices people have paid. That should give you an idea of what sort of discount to expect.

        It may also be a good idea to understand different models for the cars you are looking at - prices can vary $10-$15k as you move from base to higher models.

      • rohitroygre on 22/05/2020 - 17:50

        Thank you everyone. Your help is highly appreciated.

      • narbe on 22/05/2020 - 19:45
        -2

        Could also get an VW Tiguan. Got the 162kW 2.0 L. Turbo last year pretty good. Got fleet pricing + tiny bit more discount. I think ended up paying 52K for it came with S&V package and side bars.

      • CheapSticks on 22/05/2020 - 19:52
        -1

        Include X-Trail in your list. Way better than Tucson.

        • 0FoxGiven on 22/05/2020 - 22:33
          +1

          iDisagree. But maybe thats just me. I dont even like the Tucson much, ended up going for a Rav4 but I liked it better than the x-trail.
          I personally know somebody who got $6k off their Mazda CX-5 (yes I saw the contract as I was gonna use it to price my own deal with the same dealer). I ended up going for the Rav4 hybrid and wasnt able to negotiate much on that one.

          • CheapSticks on 23/05/2020 - 08:42
            +1

            @0FoxGiven: New RAV4 Hybrid is certainly better however not like for like vehicle…XTrail STL is like 32k+…u probably paid 45k+ for RAV4..

            I test drove Tucson and it is so much under-powered…even the sales guy sitting next to me quietly changed the mode to sports !

            • 0FoxGiven on 23/05/2020 - 08:53

              @CheapSticks: Didn't go for the cruiser. Just GX hybrid, paid 38k. The Mazda CX-5 was available for 34k back in Feb could prolly get a better price now

            • FrugalDealHunter on 24/05/2020 - 15:29

              @CheapSticks: There's some good deals on the X-Trail right now. RAV4 has alot of hype and there are barely any discounts, pretty much selling for RRP.

        • EightImmortals on 23/05/2020 - 08:05

          Yeah I was considering the Xtrail as well,the neighbour has a 2015 model and loves it. I keep reading horror stories about CVT's though so I'm a bit nervous. But then I also read that other makers were moving to CVT's as well? Have had a RAV 4 previously and loved it but the prices seem a bit high compared to other SUV's ATM. As someone else said reliability and quality?

          So does anyone have any experience with CVT's?

      • vinaricee on 22/05/2020 - 23:25
        +1

        What about Subaru forester Op? I liked rav4 but not a fan of hybrid and forester ticks all other boxes for me.

      • rohitroygre on 23/05/2020 - 08:12

        Thank you everyone.

    • QuicheLorraine on 27/10/2020 - 15:20

      Have you considered an Outlander? With a 2.4L, they would have a bit more get up and go and you should be able to get one brand new for not much more than $30K.

      I can't speak for the Kia or the Mazda but I've driven a Tucson Active X a bunch of times at work. They are very quiet but seem a little under powered (like every 2.0L model in this class I guess). You should be able to shave at least $2k off that price with some haggling.

    • websterp on 27/10/2020 - 15:21
      +8
      1. https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/539417
      2. https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/541461

      No offence but this episode 3 of your SUV purchase journey…I suppose we still could not help you to your satisfaction hence this one today.

      Perhaps another ticktock worthy idea. Well done mate!

      • spackbace on 27/10/2020 - 15:28
        +4

        5 month buying decision… This is like SlavOz's purchase all over again lol

    • wiipantz on 27/10/2020 - 15:24

      Has this changed now from a want to a 'need' again?

    • whooah1979 on 27/10/2020 - 15:33
      +2

      Have you thought about the Model X or the Skoda Kodiaq?

      • perhaps on 27/10/2020 - 17:00

        :Price won't be an issue" Urus… DBX… Bentayga…

    • MS Paint on 27/10/2020 - 15:38
      +6

      For the love of God please just pick a car and buy it.

      • pjetson on 27/10/2020 - 17:11

        The OP appears to be in Melbourne, where we've been locked down for basically most of the year. Retail (which I assume includes car dealerships) opens again tomorrow, so the OP will finally be able to go out and look at cars instead of dreaming about it.

        • MS Paint on 27/10/2020 - 17:25
          -1

          You can still purchase new cars. By the OPs previous posts he had already decided to buy a CX5 in May. OP is just procrastinating for whatever reason.

          This is from Ringwood Mazda (where the OP wanted to purchase from)

          We are still open for business for online sales, and servicing under certain circumstances.
          We are taking every precautionary measure to keep our staff and customers safe during this challenging time.

          Sales Department: To contact Sales department, please call Jeff on 0412 799 664 and or Anthony on 0433 376 035

    • Hithere on 27/10/2020 - 15:46

      Which of these cars do you think will be best for me to buy?

      Just go for a test drive in your preferred cars when you can and then make a choice.

      Are you always so indecisive?

      Or you can't make up your mind if you are or not. /s

    • pegaxs on 27/10/2020 - 15:54

      Cant wait until OP's next riveting instalment of this ongoing saga…

      Negotiation on Buying Brand New *Insert Brand, Model, Trim Level, Engine Size, Fuel type, Colour*

      Have you considered a Peugeot 5008, Renault Koleos or Nissan Qashqai?

      • spackbace on 27/10/2020 - 17:00

        The funny thing is, I wonder how many price increases OP's car choices have had since May…

        • pegaxs on 27/10/2020 - 17:06
          +1

          Doesn't matter because in a month or so the new 2021 models will be released and OP will need to start all over again…

    • PVA on 27/10/2020 - 15:54

      We have had the latest look Renault Koleos since 2017. It’s been a great car, used for camping, used for everyday driving around town, used for towing a caravan.
      No problems, long warranty, decent price, drives well, great interior and I love the looks. Much nicer overall than Nissan Xtrail.

      Take it and your other three choices for a test drive and choose what one you like. To be honest they are all kinda similar. Mazda and Kia (don’t know about the Hyundai) were a bit small for us.

      Also go online and do some insurance quotes in case one is really expensive.

    • Typical16-bitEnjoyer on 27/10/2020 - 15:58

      Just buy a damn 2018 Toyota Camry Ascent in Lunar Blue and be done with it.

      • donbot on 27/10/2020 - 16:00
        +2

        Dont forget the box of tissues in the back window!!

        • MS Paint on 27/10/2020 - 16:45

          Which is next to the hand knitted cushion but above the picnic blanket on the back seat.

    • John Kimble on 27/10/2020 - 15:59

      What telescope did you buy?

      • pegaxs on 27/10/2020 - 16:08
        +1

        None yet. Still only up to the round one process… Still have the "negotiation" phase and the "re-asking the same question again" phase to come before any purchase is made.

      • bobbified on 27/10/2020 - 16:10

        He's looking at big cars, so it might actually have been a microscope that he was looking for before! lol

    • FoxJump on 27/10/2020 - 16:10

      We bought a 4wd. Big brick outside and cube boot - roughly 1 cubic meter. Then we had twins by pure luck.
      And …. boy we're glad we have the space. The double pram and all the crap for holidays ! and the baby car seats. zomg.

      If you have plans to extend your family in the next 5-6 years - just go big.

      A friend of mine had 1 kid and bought 1 suv. ….. then they had another kid - and had to sell that one and buy another. They gave me the toptip of if planning kids - just get the biggest car you can afford.

      Fortunately, we could not afford a stretch Humvee limo.

      • spackbace on 27/10/2020 - 17:00

        just go big.

        Giggidy

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