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  • Personalised sound: The world's only headphone to automatically learn and adapt to how you hear music.
  • Adjustable bass: Choose your level of Immersion, from low to the front row.
  • Active Noise Cancellation + Social Mode: Enjoy uniquely quiet listening, or hear conversations and your surroundings with the touch of a button.
  • In-and-over-ear design: Combines in-ear buds dedicated to melodies with over-ear drivers dedicated to bass you can feel.
  • Additional features: aptX-HD wireless Bluetooth plus wired options, 4 external microphones for clearest voice calls, 20+ hours wireless battery life, free nuraphone companion app.

Haven't been this low before thanks to camelcamelcamel check.

I've personally rented them through the nuranow membership, which FYI is now a total joke of "$19.99 per month + a one-off payment of $199.99.", I got them for $19.99 per month, no upfront fee, allowed me to have them for a few months to test out and really decide if they were for me.

They do tune to your ears, no doubt about it, my main issue is not being able to tweak their "personalised profile" at all… I talked to them in person and on chat, they just state "our engineers have spent many hours perfecting the tuning process" however I'd still prefer to have at least some control over the mids and highs (you can adjust bass via an immersion slider). Also, the ANC is nothing fantastic, it's there, for sure works, but nothing like a pair of Bose or Sony headphones, especially when on a flight. But at the same time it doesn't have that pressure you can feel, making them more comfortable in that sense.

If you're interested I made a review covering how they work and my experience with them, including having 3 of my friends and family try them out and provide differences of opinion.

At the end of the day, I returned mine under the nuranow program, they weren't for me. But there are many happy buyers out there, and for $350 being the cheapest I've seen them, and also not only $110 more than a once-off rental scheme, probably your best option if you want to give them a shot.

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    • [Deactivated] on 03/05/2020 - 18:54

      Its all software EQ thingy. Download an EQ optimizer from GMusic.

  • lasterato on 03/05/2020 - 18:50
    +11

    These are gimmicky headphones that are not worth it at all. If they weren't at a premium price point, maybe (i'm talking $100-$150), but not for >$500 RRP. I got my b&o H9's for less than this!

    Posted this on a previous deal:

    I tried these at the QVB and they weren't that great. I walked away completely dissapointed…I'm more inclined to recommend the M1000XM3 or even QC35 to poeple before I recommend these.

    If you're keen and not tried them, try them before you drop $300+ on them. I don't think they're worth it, even at 30% off.

    This is just my opinion, ymmv.

    —

    I did my profile…
    With the profile enabled they were really lacking in any sort of separation and there were no mids (worse than Bose).

    Also, with the bass thing turned right down there was still way too much. It cut into the highs reducing their definition and there was significant clipping.

    The source for the test was Tidal, my personal Spotify premium, and my personal FLAC library.

    My daily headphones are B&O H9 for the office environment.

    • onlinepred on 03/05/2020 - 23:08

      Sri they would suit 90% of ozb who love bass

  • [Deactivated] on 03/05/2020 - 18:56
    +8

    Boys and girls, I have these and the EQ feature is gimmicky so I could never make a connection with these in the last 2 years of owning them. I usually love and acknowledge my tech toys but these are not special.

  • mansunz on 03/05/2020 - 18:59

    $349 is a good price.

    • camshandez on 03/05/2020 - 19:07
      -4

      Thanks for using ozbargain voting system for how it's designed. Based on price and not personal opinion on a product.

      • thegamerulez on 03/05/2020 - 19:32
        +1

        Isn't it a "bargain" only if one associates more "value" out of the product than what's been paid for, not for the design per se. And the value a person associates to a product is always an opinion..

        • camshandez on 03/05/2020 - 19:38
          +2

          There are voting guidelines. Granted you can downvote if there's a "issue with the product" however I wouldn't see ones perception of if it tuned good or not as that.

          Being the cheapest available, which this post is, and historically has been, is what we'd see as a bargain in terms of the site.

          • bchliu on 04/05/2020 - 12:41

            @camshandez: Yes.. Place is full of beliefs, torches and pitchforks. Just a reflection of the real world unfortunately.

  • paraneoplastic on 03/05/2020 - 19:04
    +2

    They are trash, look at the other threads..

    (i've owned them breifly before selling them on at a loss, they are absolute garbage)

    • eug on 03/05/2020 - 19:23
      +5

      I've read plenty of good comments about them as well. I think like many things related to audio, they don't suit everybody. Some people love the QC35, some prefer the 1000XM3, some wouldn't subject their ears to such garbage and would only listen to their Stax SR009.

      With something like this, I think fit makes a big difference. If the tips don't fit your ears well, they're not going to sound good.

      It is also human nature to have confirmation bias. For example, if you don't like them, you can read 696 reviews but only pay attention to the 174 1-3 star ratings while ignoring the 522 4 and 5 star ratings. Because of course, any product with good ratings is always the result of the manufacturer buying reviews.

      If they're still offering the 30 day trial, there's definitely no harm in trying them. If they suit your ears, perfect! If they don't and you're dissatisfied, just return them.

      • paraneoplastic on 03/05/2020 - 20:20
        -7

        I know what confirmation bias is mate, you just exhibited it by stating you like them.

        Nuraphone are a dodgy company a lot of the positive reviews are paid for (like the 100s of sponsored youtube videos), it's been proven that their "EQ" is a gimick and the overall sound of the headphones are laughable for the price. The QC35 and XM3s are way better value.

        The tips have nothing to do with the sound quality on these. Seal doesn't make a difference if the sound produced is subpar.

        • eug on 03/05/2020 - 21:36
          +5

          I know what confirmation bias is mate, you just exhibited it by stating you like them.

          Never bought them, never tried them, not in the market for them, don't care about them.

          Also by your statement I don't think you know what confirmation bias is. :)

          I just find it amusing how some people buy something, don't like it, and decide that nobody else in the world could possibly like it. There is simply no way that in this huge world, different people have physically different ears and different tastes in audio characteristics. Their opinion is the only one that matters, everybody else is wrong and clearly got paid by the company to say positive things.

          Nuraphone are a dodgy company a lot of the positive reviews are paid for

          Do you have evidence to back that statement?

          • paraneoplastic on 03/05/2020 - 21:51
            +2

            @eug: Let's play ball.

            • You stated "With something like this, I think fit makes a big difference" - you have never owned them or tried them yet you can comment on this? To form an opinion specific to this product and determining whether the nozzle fit changes sound would require you to experiment with different tip sizes no? I agree in IEMs tips and fit can make a drastic difference - best example being the Sony IER Z1R.

            • Sound and audiophile crap will always be subjective. My statement was relating the cost to product ratio, you're right i'm sure there is someone who thinks this is worth $350 and it's the best thing they've heard at that price point.

            • This product blatantly defrauds the consumer, when people purchase it they are expecting a proprietary technology which analyzes the external auditory meatus to provided a custom side. The product DOES NOT deliver this, as if it did, everytime you reset the headphones and set them up again it should EQ exactly the same. It DOES NOT. If you change the age, the graph changes.

            • If a company provides an item for review and the reviewer gets to keep the item or gets paid to review the itemn, It will NEVER be objective - there will always be bias.

            • A company which provides 20% off for referrals and then refer 6 get a pair free clearly relies on a herd mentality and hype to sell, as if it didn't they wouldn't need such campaigns, I don't see Audeze, Sennheiser or Sony doing anything similar - do you? Now that i googled this trash, i will get targetted on facebook and youtube with relentless ads. Yet if i google Audeze that doesn't happen… Hmm…

            • eug on 04/05/2020 - 11:53

              @paraneoplastic:

              You stated "With something like this, I think fit makes a big difference" - you have never owned them or tried them yet you can comment on this?

              Yes. That is why I said I think. I base it on what I've read, and my experience with in-ear monitors.

              This product blatantly defrauds the consumer, when people purchase it they are expecting a proprietary technology which analyzes the external auditory meatus to provided a custom side. The product DOES NOT deliver this, as if it did, everytime you reset the headphones and set them up again it should EQ exactly the same. It DOES NOT.

              Can you give more details on the tests you did to conclusively state that the product does not do any form of analysis? Did you eliminate variables like fit and the ambient environment?

              If a company provides an item for review and the reviewer gets to keep the item or gets paid to review the itemn, It will NEVER be objective - there will always be bias.

              Sure, that's a common practice in the tech world. But read what you wrote:

              Nuraphone are a dodgy company a lot of the positive reviews are paid for

              What evidence do you have that a lot of the positive reviews are paid for?
              On Amazon you can sort reviews by verified purchases. There are plenty of positive as well as negative reviews there, as you'd expect from such a subjective item like headphones. Are you saying all those positive reviews are wrong because Nuraphone paid them either with free headphones or with cash?

              Here in this OzB post you can find several people who have mentioned they liked it. How much do you think Nuraphone paid them?

              Is it possible that different people have different ears and preferences to you, and what didn't work for you just might have worked well for them?

              Or do you expect everybody else in this world to have the same ears and preferences as you - nobody else can have different ears and preferences to you - if they do, they're simply wrong and any headphone they like is utter trash.

              A company which provides 20% off for referrals and then refer 6 get a pair free clearly relies on a herd mentality and hype to sell, as if it didn't they wouldn't need such campaigns, I don't see Audeze, Sennheiser or Sony doing anything similar - do you?

              If Sony was the size of Nuraphone, they too might look at alternative forms of marketing.

              Now that i googled this trash, i will get targetted on facebook and youtube with relentless ads. Yet if i google Audeze that doesn't happen… Hmm…

              Not sure what your point is. Maybe you're not aware that Google is a very large advertising company. Lots of companies around the world pay for remarketing ads on Google. But just like how different people can have different preferences, different companies can have different marketing strategies. Buying Google ads does not make a company's products "trash", it simply means they have a different marketing strategy (or budget) to other companies who may not.

              Yet if i google Audeze that doesn't happen… Hmm…

              Perhaps they rely on "herd mentality and hype" in the audiophile market to sell their $8,000 headphones (not including a headphone amp), because they realize the general public that Google ads cater to would not be interested in such things.

              • cbalcs on 04/05/2020 - 12:25

                @eug: @paraneoplastic I like my pair and I have had the QC35. My family liked the sound and when I went overseas I let someone try them and they loved them and wanted to get a pair. I wasn't paid nor anyone that I have given them to to try was. I'd like to see some facts about some claims you are making.

                • Nomad2233 on 05/05/2020 - 19:11

                  @cbalcs: The headphones are complete trash and the company is currently going under. P.s. Eug you sound like a (profanity) child.

                  • eug on 05/05/2020 - 19:29

                    @Nomad2233:

                    The headphones are complete trash and the company is currently going under. P.s. Eug you sound like a (profanity) child.

                    There is no need to resort to childish insults. You have to realize that in this world, different people can have different preferences to you.

  • Diji1 on 03/05/2020 - 19:31
    +2

    I liked them. The bass is colossal like it isn't a headphone. Probably the most fun sounding headphone I've used barring Audeze Mobius planar magnetic.

    I kept having the experience of hearing more in songs that I've listened to for decades.

    It's a little bit more than "just EQ settings", it measures the sounds response of your ears and then sets EQ accordingly. It isn't pseudoscience and there are other products doing the same thing such as Aumeo (which work with any wired headphone).

    But I'm assuming that your experience of them will be coloured by how "off neutral"(?) your hearing is. If you have "major" issues hearing certain tones then these will presumably do a lot more than if you can hear all tones equally or however they mix music.

    I sold them. I never wore them at home and they are … wierd feeling. Not terrible but …wierd. You get used to it.

    I preordered their Nuraloop canalphones but yet to recieve them.

    I hesitate to outright recommend them but if you want very high quality headphones for short commutes I'd probably say yes. Wearing them for a 12 hour flight would be out of the question for me though.

    You can rent them and there's a 30 day change of mind guarantee (if they still do this).

    • paraneoplastic on 03/05/2020 - 20:25

      The bass is not colossal it's very far from it. It's the haptic motor and your cochlear registering it as the "bass" (low) frequency. Nuraphone aren't the first to do this, skull candy does it.

      These are not "resolving" headphones, the "hearing more" in songs is placebo after paying $350+ for these - unless of course you're comparing them to like $2 earphones that come in phones or handed out free - then sure.

      It's been proven that the EQ is a gimmick and uses you're demopgrahics to select a sound, if you change the age on sign up it'll change the signature lol - don't believe me? try it.

  • R1ngSt1nger on 03/05/2020 - 19:33
    +4

    Have had these for two months on a NuraNow subscription. I quite liked the sound, but I just couldn't get them comfortable.

    Two weeks ago I emailed them, asking to cancel my subscription. I got a reply back after a couple of days asking why I want to cancel (I already told them in the initial email), so, I replied and haven't heard anything. It's been over a week now, despite emailing them around five additional times.

    There is no phone number to contact them on. I had to lodge a credit card transaction dispute.

    The fact that they're discounting them $200 probably means they're in a bit of strife I would say. These are worth around $100 at best in my opinion.

  • Zippy7 on 03/05/2020 - 19:41

    I tried them out last year at their popup store when they were at Galleries.
    Novel idea, I was very tempted to get them for the flights during an overseas holiday.
    In the end I didnt want to drop that much coin on headphones for a holiday (where they could get lost or stolen or damaged)
    So I bought a pair of Taotronics over ears with noise cancellation for $80-odd on a sale.

    It's all down to personal preference, but I think the Taotronics did the job (barely) for the trip as the NC was ordinary at best/shithouse in some cases.

    These are nice and felt a bit more premium (and they are unusual), but at this price point I think I'd prefer the Bose QC35s which I've worn plenty of times when I travelled for business in business class. I did regret not buying better headphones at the time, but I don't mind having the extra money in my pocket now.

    Of course, YMMV.

  • wfdTamar on 03/05/2020 - 19:42
    +1

    I tried them and returned them. Also tried the Sony (too hot), B&O H9i (think that was the model), Aedle VK-X. Finally settled on the Bose.

    • [Deactivated] on 03/05/2020 - 20:25

      The Bose 700 is very nice.
      Not sure if that's what you ended up getting, but if you can get them on sale, they're a solid daily use pair.

      • wfdTamar on 03/05/2020 - 20:32

        No,the QC II

        • [Deactivated] on 03/05/2020 - 20:34

          QC 35 II are nice also :)

          • eug on 03/05/2020 - 21:39
            +1

            @[Deactivated]: I've had my QC35 for years. I love the comfort and noise cancelling abilities, but I don't find the sound quality nice. It's perfectly fine for watching movies or TV shows on airplanes, but when I'm at home they're my last choice.

            • [Deactivated] on 03/05/2020 - 22:04

              @eug: Yes, they're not really crash hot for music at home or giving the best cinematic "experience".
              I think they're a nice travel pair though.
              I had my last pair for when I was traveling up and down the east coast.

    • onlinepred on 03/05/2020 - 23:09

      You like the comfort hey

  • narcoleptic-haze on 03/05/2020 - 19:49

    Lmao @ people expecting these to cost $100. Take a spin with some Taotronics and compare any single part - sound quality, build quality, materials, support. I understand if you personally don’t like them but get real. I work at an electronics shop and we get people all the time buying the cheapest shit they can find and immediately complain that it doesn’t do as much or have the build quality of more expensive models.

    • [Deactivated] on 03/05/2020 - 20:21
      +2

      What people complain about at your job is irrelevant to what people are saying on OZB.

      People are saying the headphones are priced more for the gimmicks than for the quality of the audio it provides.
      Which is true. The $450-$600 RRP is highly competitive and there are plenty of options. Most of which go on sale for <$400

      You are trying to negate the opinions people who have first had experience with these headphones and others at similar price points… and your point is "I work in an electronics shop and people always buy the cheapest shit expecting better" ????????
      These aren't the cheapest…. as for people "expecting better", it's because they've had better for similar prices….

  • [Deactivated] on 03/05/2020 - 20:05
    +2

    Not even worth this discounted price.
    Very (as others have stated) gimmicky

  • HelpfulMilk on 03/05/2020 - 20:32
    +1

    Very gimmicky product.

  • Turbonetics on 03/05/2020 - 20:37
    -1

    I have these. Bought them as part of kick-starter. Amazing headphones. Never need to buy another pair ever again.

    • [Deactivated] on 03/05/2020 - 20:47
      +1

      These are excellent one you jump from a Shyt pair of headphones that often come with phones.

      • Turbonetics on 04/05/2020 - 00:49
        +1

        I have always bought Bose earphones and headphones and sound systems. But honestly these are the bomb. I'm surprised they have such negative feedback from everyone else.

        • eug on 04/05/2020 - 12:03
          +1

          Don't worry, as with many things there's always a very vocal minority. There is plenty of good feedback out there too.

          It's probably just human nature to make lots of noise on forums and websites if you're unhappy with a product. But if you're very happy with something you're much less likely to go look for a forum or website to post a positive review or comment. So as a result you're a lot more likely to read complaints than compliments. There will also often be a very vocal minority that can skew one's perception if that was all someone read.

  • didactw on 03/05/2020 - 20:50
    +1

    These are incredible bad. The in ear design makes it very uncomfortable to use for long, and walking with it is impossible anyway, since you can hear ever step through the in ears. The audio quality is good, but you would expect that from a $100 headphone.

  • Hybroid on 03/05/2020 - 20:57
    +1

    https://www.nuraphone.com/products/nuranow - Scroll down to FAQs.

    This is the biggest load of crap I have ever seen. No chance supporting these practises.

    Pay $199 upfront then $20 rental for 24 months and if you cancel, they deactivate the headphones remotely. Hell no.

    If you pay all 24 months, you still don't own them even with the $199 upfront payment and need to keep paying subscription fee for another unit. Hellll no.

    You don't even get the 30-day satisfaction guarentee. You can however cancel and forfeit the upfront payment.

    They claim this scheme is to make them affordable but the total cost is $130 more than outright purchase. That's basically interest by another name.

    No reason to buy these outright either, get a Sony or Bose for the same price point. Don't support crap like this.

    • kypro on 03/05/2020 - 21:42

      I bought the sub earlier. It was 18$ a month with no upfront, they cant change the price on me.

      • camshandez on 03/05/2020 - 22:03

        Yeah as I wrote in the description of the post I got it pre price Jack too, was a really good initiative to try out for cheap. I suspect they had a lot of returns though

    • bchliu on 04/05/2020 - 12:56

      Sony and Bose both have their own issues. They aren't even perfect in a long shot and honestly I can't vouch for them either. QC35's died because of a well known power switch issue that doesn't turn off. Swapped to the QC35-IIs and the BT is dodgy with bad microphone, QC20 has issues with interference and static with poor EMF shielding on the battery or cabling. The Sony WF-1000M sucked bad and took 4 firmware revisions to fix before it was usable and even then constantly drops between ears. WF-1000XM3 was great initially but each firmware made it worse from connection issues to microphone issues to more frequent drop outs.

      Yes.. I spent too much money on headphones but only a real user will give honest reviews about whether or not something was of "value".

  • mostlygordon on 03/05/2020 - 21:47

    Tried these at their Chadstone popup. I really wanted to like them; Melbourne company, cool tech… But sadly they were pretty average. I'll stick with my Focals…

    • poppingtags on 03/05/2020 - 22:28

      Focals are on a whole different level to these.

  • poppingtags on 03/05/2020 - 22:35

    If audio quality is your number one consideration, I'd wait for the Drop X THX Pandas - especially if they're stocked by @addictedtoaudio, as a few of Drop's exclusive headphones are. It is likely to be quite a bit more expensive than this deal, but the difference in audio quality should be noticeable - given how stellar the Oppo PM3 drivers were (which the Panda also uses).

    • mostlygordon on 03/05/2020 - 22:59

      Last time I was in A2A, they didn't know if they were getting Pandas. Worth grabbing an XB10 and then any cans can be bluetooth. This thing even drives my 600 ohm T1s balanced and sounds good! Hmm, I have PM3s and they don't get listened to much…

      • poppingtags on 03/05/2020 - 23:15

        Interesting, I suspect they'll see how strong demand is before looking at stocking them, hope they do!

        The T1's do have a very different sound signature to the PM3's, if you like the T1 I'm not surprised the PM3's don't get much use!

        • mostlygordon on 03/05/2020 - 23:19

          I like all my other cans more than the PM3s LOL. Still, can't bring myself to flip the PM3s for some reason. Piece of history I guess.

    • onlinepred on 03/05/2020 - 23:10

      Geez they look huge

      • mostlygordon on 03/05/2020 - 23:26

        Depends what you compare them to. I didn't think they were too bad for size and comfort. But after all the hype and glowing reviews, I was disappointed in the sound quality.

        • [Deactivated] on 04/05/2020 - 08:32

          I have Blue Mo-Fi with built-in AMP they do sound great. Have you any experience with these?

          • mostlygordon on 04/05/2020 - 08:38

            @[Deactivated]: No, but I have a Yeti, good brand and well made stuff. Always wanted to have a listen to their cans, but haven't been in a store with a demo as yet. What do you think of them?

        • onlinepred on 04/05/2020 - 09:37

          Just normal headphones right? They look like they are super thick and deep cups, they stick out an almost comical amount in those pictures.

    • Diji1 on 22/05/2020 - 14:26

      If audio quality is your number one consideration

      You should consider the Audeze Mobius, I suggest buying the Amazon exclusive Carbon variant for quality and mic pop filter. It also looks the best IMO.

      They have an exceptionally low noise floor which results in an audible hiss when no signal is playing which might bother you until you start listening to anything.

      They are currently the only non-Sony branded headphone to have LDAC.

      Possibly the best wireless headphone and gaming headset you can buy.

  • barozgain on 03/05/2020 - 22:56

    Sorry OP

    but the product is very overpriced and quality is crappy

  • starwarsfreak on 04/05/2020 - 00:03

    i knew these were gimmicky and not prepared to pay retail, so i bought these 2nd hand for $140, at the price point im happy with them, the learning gimmick is all marketing, open up the options for EQ and you could explore its full potential, too bulky if u ask me but well worth the $140 i paid for them. Shame they use propriety cconnections which is like $30 each cable. Been waiting to bite the bullet to get spare cables but im an OZB tightass.

  • enzso on 04/05/2020 - 00:25

    Tried these through NuraNow (before there was an upfront fee) and really liked them overall. Good sound quality and very comfy fit for me. But they're very big and that was the deal breaker. Too difficult to travel with.

  • [Deactivated] on 04/05/2020 - 08:27

    Anyone wondering how is the Noise Cancelling on Nuraphones

    Ok so when NC feature is turned off, The mics will automatically turn on and you can could hear speakers producing sound captured via mics. So you would think its pretty noisy without NC feature turned on. so you go back to the settings and turn this switch back on and wallah! amazing Noise Cancelling. In reality they are designed to let the mics communicate with the speakers when you turn off the NFC.

    • Big1 on 04/05/2020 - 09:49
      +1

      You're describing their social mode function, similar to what Sony has.

  • athua on 04/05/2020 - 17:00
    +4

    I have a pair and they are not a gimmick which many people think they are.
    True, they are not for everyone as it does take a little time to get used to the inner ear bits but if you are used to using IEMs, then it doesn't take long to get used to them.

    Those that benefit the most from the Nuras would be people with minor hearing loss in various spots across the frequency spectrum. If you are young and have good hearing then the Nuras may not sound any different to other headphones but if your hearing isn't so good like mine, then the custom profile created by the Nuras sounds great.

    My high frequency hearing isn't very good so to test this, I got my wife to create a profile using my account which she did and thought it sounded good. I then switched the Nuras to using my profile and she thought it was tinny in sound with the highs being emphasised too much. I then listened using her profile and to me it sounded very muffled. So our own profiles sounded good but not to the other person.

    Also a tip when making the profiles, it works best being done in a very quiet place as any ambient noise can be picked up by the sensitive mics when doing the sound check which then alters the final profile.

    • Diji1 on 22/05/2020 - 14:19

      but if you are used to using IEMs

      Disagree after owning them, I consider them unsuitable for long listening periods at home or travelling, I couldn't get used to the wierdness.

      • athua on 22/05/2020 - 21:16

        It depends on the fit for each individual. I use my Nuraphones on my commute to and from work on the train (2 hours each way) without any problems or discomfort.

  • Nomad2233 on 05/05/2020 - 19:12

    I cannot be bothered writing a full review on my phone but I had them for a month and they're complete trash. Go get the 1000xm3.

  • Diji1 on 22/05/2020 - 14:18

    I recieved my pre ordered Nuraloops - the IEMs with the same technology - a few days ago and they are exceptional as far as sound quality.

    I'd recommend them over the Nuraphone's which I loved with serious reservations over the "wierdness" created by having a rubber nipple pushed into your ear.

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