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Western Digital Ultrastar 7200 RPM DC HC320 8TB Data Centre HDD $331.18 + Delivery ($0 w/ Prime) @ Amazon US via AU

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Western Digital Ultrastar 7200 RPM DC HC320 8TB Data Centre HDD $331.18 + Delivery ($0 w/ Prime) @ Amazon US via AUAffiliate
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Cheap for a datacentre grade drive. It's even cheaper than most 8TB 5,400rpm NAS drives out there.

Designed with a workload rating up to 550TB per year, 10X desktop rating (Workload rate is defined as the amount of data transferred to or from the hard drive. Workload Rate is annualized (TB transferred X (8760/ recorded power on hours). Workload Rate will vary depending on your hardware and software components and configurations

Up to 2.5M hours MTBF with a 5 year limited warranty

Five generations of HelioSeal technology (10TB and above)

Rotational Vibration Safeguard (RVS) technology for vibration protection

Datasheet available here: https://documents.westerndigital.com/content/dam/doc-library…

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  • Monsta-AU on 27/04/2020 - 12:26
    +5

    Seriously good price for a branded drive than taking a bet on an EasyStore. The 12TB in that listing is also cheaper than the 10TB if you really want the maximum storage density.

    Now the question is do I get these now, or instead get a DS918+ first?

    • t25 on 27/04/2020 - 12:36

      Pointless to get one without the other. My solution? Buy both! Get started first, then upgrade when the need arises.

      • megaalc on 27/04/2020 - 12:43

        any deals for DS918+ ? :)

      • Monsta-AU on 27/04/2020 - 14:02

        I already have a 4x3TB xPenology box on a N40L Microserver but it is getting a bit long in the tooth. Was going to let the array build on new hardware and then just move everything over.

        Bought the drives, will wait for a deal on hardware.

    • Stoz on 27/04/2020 - 13:57

      I'd get the Synology first as you can fill it with lower capacity drives then upgrade them later. Shouldn't have any issues if you set it up using SHR2 (2 disk redundancy)

      • Monsta-AU on 27/04/2020 - 14:12

        I won't use 2-disk redundancy on a 4-bay NAS unless it is RAID 10 and that is needed for speed. This is storage anyway, so 1-drive is enough for purpose in which case it will be RAID5.

        Also do not need SHR headaches, I am technical enough to deal with it myself and don't need the software to look after me.

        • Stoz on 27/04/2020 - 14:44
          +2

          Why are you buying a Synology to not use SHR (Synology Hybrid RAID)?

          As far as I understand SHR is RAID5 with some extensions to allow better disk usage when you have different-sized disks. You can even mount SHR drives with mdadm in Linux to recover data if you need to. SHR2 is the same but with RAID6.

          If you are only doing single-disk redundancy (which is understandable with only 4 drives) then it's probably best to get the exact drives you want and setup the RAID fresh. With single disk redundancy you are most exposed when one disk is offline (either due to failure or upgrade) and you are adding the replacement drive (which has to read all the parity data from the other drives). If any of the other drives fail during this process (or throw an Unrecoverable Read Error) you will need to wipe and restore from backup.

          • Monsta-AU on 27/04/2020 - 15:42

            @Stoz: I have worked in IT for many years, you don't need to provide me a techsplaination. I know exactly what it does and how it works after recovering more than my fair share of C2000 Atom-based devices that died.

            DSM is my preference over QTS due to the flexibility of the platform. Being able to boot commodity server hardware (or even a VM) off an xPenology USB/image saved my clients multiple days of being offline while waiting for advanced replacement units. That is the reason to choose Syno over QNAP. If SHR is your major reason to choose Synology then that is fine but you should not assume the same for everyone.

            URE's are a non-issue if you know what you are doing and take the logical precautions. Never lost an array to a URE on rebuild because I always used new drives to rebuild and kept the originals untouched apart from taking an image, or ran it virtual.

            • Stoz on 27/04/2020 - 19:35
              +3

              @Monsta-AU: Sorry to techsplain you. Obviously my comments are addressed to you but hopefully written as to be beneficial to other ozbargain readers (otherwise I would just PM you). I was not actually aware that QNAP wasn't as flexible as Synology in some regards, so I'm glad to have learnt that.

              Speaking of the C2000 Atom, I just had my own DS1815+ die about a month ago and had it replaced under warranty. It's only for home use so I just left the drives alone for a couple of weeks and slotted them into the replacement unit which worked perfectly with all my data and settings. Obviously that doesn't work in an environment where you can't be without access for 2 weeks.

  • jv on 27/04/2020 - 12:30
    -1

    Up to 2.5M hours MTBF with a 5 year limited warranty

    That's 285 years, so why only 5 year warranty ???

    • [Deactivated] on 27/04/2020 - 12:38
      +1

      its limited warranty…

    • Rajserp on 27/04/2020 - 12:52
      +2

      Thanks not how MTBF works. The MTBF is how many hours total added up for the SKU before a failure.

      If there were 2.5 Million disks, that would mean that every hour, one of those 2.5 Million would be expected to fail and still be within design specifications.

      • jv on 27/04/2020 - 12:56
        -1

        Then why is it called "mean time between failures" ?

        • Rajserp on 27/04/2020 - 12:59
          +1

          Its mean number of hours total per SKU, not per individual item.

          • jv on 27/04/2020 - 13:02
            -8

            @Rajserp:

            Oh…

            So if one disk works well for 2.5M hours, and the other 999,999 disks fail, it is still within design specifications?

            Sounds dodgy to me…

            • bargaingod123 on 27/04/2020 - 13:05
              +6

              @jv: No, it is like if you have 100 dirves running together, you are likely to get a drive fail in 25k hours

      • nfr on 27/04/2020 - 13:04
        +4

        So if I buy 1, it will have 1/2.5M chance of failing every hour?

        • bargaingod123 on 27/04/2020 - 13:05

          Yep

        • jv on 27/04/2020 - 13:06

          It depends which one you buy.

          If you get the bad one, it will fail anyway… Regardless of the design specs…

          • nfr on 27/04/2020 - 13:21

            @jv: You don't know which one is bad though, all you know is there is a chance, question is how much chance. If a particular batch is known to have a high chance of failures, then I would not buy, even if I could end up getting the good one.

          • [Deactivated] on 27/04/2020 - 14:16
            +1

            @jv: or you could just by two

            then you don't need to worry…

  • Elanzer on 27/04/2020 - 12:32

    Is this usable as a storage drive inside a PC?

    • XeKToReX on 27/04/2020 - 12:42
      +3

      Absolutely

  • macmanluke on 27/04/2020 - 12:34
    +2

    hmm been looking for drives to replace my near new WD Reds which i just found out are SMR…
    Dont really want to give WD my money again but thats a damn good price for an actual good drive

    • Tigerhacker on 27/04/2020 - 12:44
      +1

      If you can make WD take back your Red drives, maybe thats a compromise?

      They take a hit on needing to refurb those drives (and they see a disgruntled customer), you get what you want?

      • macmanluke on 27/04/2020 - 12:45
        +2

        Yea i submitted a support request but i dont like my chances

        Bought 1 for now to replace my parity drive in my unraid box as that the one that gets hit with a lot more writes

    • Skramit on 27/04/2020 - 12:50

      What size do you need?

      I grabbed a CMR 3TB WD Red today at CentreCom… their last one! Only SMR ones left there. Still a few CMR drives floating around though at other shops.

      • macmanluke on 27/04/2020 - 13:01

        6TB (or i could get 8TB which are CMR but they are as dear or more than the ultrastar)

        I must have got unlucky is i got the SMR Reds 6+ months ago (as far as i can tell from model number, 256mb cache version)

      • Neilzy on 27/04/2020 - 13:32

        Do you have a SKU for the 3TB with SMR? I bought a pair from Computer Alliance a few weeks back :S

        • Skramit on 27/04/2020 - 13:46
          +1

          wd30efrx = CMR
          wd30efax = SMR

          • Neilzy on 27/04/2020 - 13:50
            +1

            @Skramit: Many Thanks

            Both of mine are WD40EFRX

            /relieved

            • Skramit on 27/04/2020 - 13:54

              @Neilzy: no worries.

              I had a efrx degrade on me couple weeks ago. ive been letting it hang on since then waiting for deal…. but when i heard the issues with wd efax drives being smr this weekend, i rushed to grab a CMR drives so i could replace the faulty one and not get stuck with a SMR!

              • Neilzy on 27/04/2020 - 14:11

                @Skramit: ahhhh nossss haha

                might just take a chance with this ultrastar one then :S

            • smashman42 on 28/04/2020 - 13:30
              +1

              @Neilzy: I've got 3 of the WD40EFRX in a NAS, a little googling it seems the EFRX are the safer ones across different capacities up to 6TB and the EFAX are the shingled

    • [Deactivated] on 27/04/2020 - 14:24

      What's smr, and why does it matter?

      • Caped Baldy on 27/04/2020 - 14:29

        Shingled magnetic recording. Basically there's an overlap within the drives for more storage density but at the risk of higher failures.

        Generally you want to avoid. In the past month or so, many HDD manufacturers have admitted to selling SMR as CMR (conventional).

        • [Deactivated] on 27/04/2020 - 14:54

          Thanks mate, that makes sense

          • Blitzfx on 27/04/2020 - 15:05

            @[Deactivated]: They have slower performance for sustained writes as well
            https://blocksandfiles.com/2020/04/20/western-digital-smr-dr…

          • havebeerbelywillsumo on 27/04/2020 - 15:21

            @[Deactivated]: Not quite right from what I've heard….it's not that they are more fail prone but that rewriting is a lengthy and involved process (due to shingling) in fact can be so long that a RAID controller may (incorrectly) report a drive as bad on the incorrect premise that data rewriting is taking too long for its metric - whether right or wrong it still makes that device a no go in the RAID setup - as these are supposed to be designed for that purpose (RAID) it is a major WD misinform.

            As an archive drive (ie one/very few write(s) of very large files - eg movie backup) they are fine - but many rewrites, no good

    • Elanzer on 27/04/2020 - 18:11

      Are these CMR?

      • systema on 27/04/2020 - 18:21

        Yes, as stated in the datasheet.

  • Beyond on 27/04/2020 - 12:36

    Do we know what the previous price was?

    • macmanluke on 27/04/2020 - 12:44

      If you look at the other sellers they are in $500-600 range so likely around there

      • huubang on 27/04/2020 - 13:29

        https://au.camelcamelcamel.com/product/B07H4PR6HN

        But for Amazon, it has been this price since March. Is this a good price or not?

        I wanna pull the trigger but I need 2 (to make RAID1) and don't have enough money atm

        • Blitzfx on 27/04/2020 - 15:06

          This is good price considering $AUD is dropping and also supply due to the virus from China

  • garetz on 27/04/2020 - 12:44

    You are not going to get 5 years warranty with an international product, amazon only gives 3 months or so.

    • macmanluke on 27/04/2020 - 12:46

      Just claim through WD

      • garetz on 27/04/2020 - 12:46

        Wd will not touch international disks sold in australia, they never have.

        • Rajserp on 27/04/2020 - 12:48
          +8

          WD take RMA on any region drives. However you ship back to Malaysia at your own cost (They then sometimes send you a prepaid FedEx label if you complain). You don't even need an invoice.

          • hypie on 27/04/2020 - 12:50
            +3

            @Rajserp: I have read a lot of posts regarding shipping drives back to vietnam and not having any problems. Even some stories of shucked drives being rma'd without problems.

          • garetz on 27/04/2020 - 12:51

            @Rajserp: I had a 6tb enterprise drive they refused to warranty, which was still in warranty and bought from the usa, unless you buy it here in australia, i would say its iffy at best.

            • Rajserp on 27/04/2020 - 12:54

              @garetz: Did you have warranty refused on them taking delivery or at the time of making the RMA?

          • [Deactivated] on 27/04/2020 - 13:01

            @Rajserp: Even if they take it, you are still not likely going to get a brand new but a certified refurbished one. I was quite happy with WD until pissed off around 9 years ago.

            So far I'm happy with Seagate but maybe it is just being lucky. You know best customer service is no customer service.

        • macmanluke on 27/04/2020 - 12:56

          never had an issue, even warranting aus stuff is annoying with needing to post etc

    • hypie on 27/04/2020 - 12:46

      edit: just saw last post.. didn't know that.

      • garetz on 27/04/2020 - 12:47
        -1

        That has not been my experience, and i have been buying wd from the very start for over 15 years.

    • phoenx on 27/04/2020 - 12:57
      +8

      This was my conversation with Amazon US after I purchased 2 of these several months ago. I purchased from Amazon US, fulfilled by another US company, and shipped to Aus. Before this conversation I contacted the company that fulfilled the order and they basically said they provide no warranty, so I followed up with Amazon.

      Amazon : It was ordered overseas and you are worried for the warranty just in case the item encounter some problem. Right?
      Me: correct
      and their last message was : This item has limited 5 year warranty by manufacturer within North American. Please note we do not sell international. We only sell within United States. Amazon should have not have ship this item to you. If you don’t feel comfortable with warranty, please return to us through Amazon. They will provide a return shipping label. You will be refunded.
      Me: so it seems they are basically saying theres no way i can return this item under warranty
      and amazon made a mistake letting me buy it from them
      Amazon : to be honest we are the one responsible for the refund or replacement just in case the item will encounter some problem regardless if the return window already expired.
      Amazon will honor its 5 year warranty
      I can assure you that.
      Me: so you can promise that amazon US will process any warranty up to the 5 years?
      Amazon : Yes. Promise.
      Me: and is it amazon US or could it be amazon AUS
      Amazon : Amazon US
      Me: ok great, thats very good to hear.
      and if there was a warranty return would i need to pay for shipping either way?
      Amazon : We will handle that of course.

      • hypie on 27/04/2020 - 12:59
        +4

        You are a legend, super reassuring.

        • phoenx on 27/04/2020 - 13:01

          yeah I'm happy having that on record, the only difference here is that this deal is off Amazon Aus instead of US. but surely their stance would be the same?

          • elusive on 27/04/2020 - 13:43
            +1

            @phoenx: Generally Amazon AU is even better, as they are actually under ACL.

      • XeKToReX on 27/04/2020 - 16:21

        Can back this up, bought a Sandisk 960GB SSD years ago and it failed within its warranty period. Amazon US chat advance shipped me a drive and sent me a shipping label to return the failed one when I had swapped it out.

        Top notch service.

  • johnttt on 27/04/2020 - 12:44

    damnit, you can only buy one, wanted to buy two.

    • hypie on 27/04/2020 - 12:45
      +1

      two orders overcomes this problem!

      • johnttt on 27/04/2020 - 12:48
        +1

        yea cool, put through two separate orders and it worked.

    • macmanluke on 27/04/2020 - 12:46

      weird let me put 3 in my cart

  • Beyond on 27/04/2020 - 12:53

    It kind of hurts that I paid $289 for my WD Black 4TB a few years ago…

    It was a stupid purchase, considering I only use it for storage whilst I have an m.2 in my motherboard, idiotic me bought a 6TB one a few ones later.

    • [Deactivated] on 27/04/2020 - 14:39
      -2

      Well it depends on the nature of the stuff you store. SSD is not good choice for stuff you need to keep for a long time.

  • podilamaya on 27/04/2020 - 13:19
    +1

    Thanks, OP. I was Looking for some HDD, purchased 4. hope amazon will send all 4 of them.

  • Arsenal on 27/04/2020 - 13:48
    +2

    This is definitely a very good price for a Datacentre drive, but the EasyStore comparison is a bit weird as you'd have to be nuts to spend anywhere near $330 for an 8TB EasyStore/Elements drive. Heck i ordered a couple of 12TB Elements drives at $350 just last week.

    • systema on 27/04/2020 - 14:18

      I was referring to the usual EasyStore retail pricing from Australian vendor - but you are right about that can be had for way cheaper. Updated the description about the deal.

    • Click_It on 27/04/2020 - 14:29

      That would have been front-page bargain worthy. Did you post that deal or access the deal here? $350 for 12TB is very good at the moment.

  • d3btcoll3ctor6 on 27/04/2020 - 14:16

    Is this 8TB drive better or worse than WD RED range for NAS ?

    • hypie on 27/04/2020 - 14:26
      +1

      Enterprise vs Home/Small Business drives (Red)

      Both for Nas, Enterprise likely louder and faster.

    • aussieaubs on 27/04/2020 - 14:28
      +2

      better

    • coxymla on 27/04/2020 - 15:41
      +2

      Much better, WD RED range is now cheap shingled crap.

      • Richardc on 27/04/2020 - 16:45

        I saw people put wd red and green apart and they are the same hardware, just different firmware.

      • Twix on 27/04/2020 - 18:09
        +1

        Not all WD Red drive skews are SMR. WD Red 1TB, 8TB and above are CMR. WD Red 2-6TB are SMR.

        • smashman42 on 28/04/2020 - 13:39
          +2

          2-6 with EFAX suffix are SMR, 2-6 with EFRX suffix are CMR

    • scud70 on 27/04/2020 - 15:42

      overall they are better in terms of logevity, one other thing to keep in mind that WD reds and others at that level (so not the Pro) tend to advise that they are only for a NAS of up to 8 disks etc so if your NAS is a larger 12 or even the server level NAS then enterprise is the way to go but this is great price for 8TB at this level of quality :)

      • Solrak on 27/04/2020 - 19:35

        So WD recommend for a NAS with up to 8 hdds per enclosure? What if you have a NAS with an 8 hdd enclosure plus an expansion unit attached but in a separate enclosure? Is the limitation the software or with heat/vibrations from more than 8 hdds in one unit? Just curious to know?

        • scud70 on 27/04/2020 - 21:00

          It's not software no, it is due to vibration so the entry level NAS drives are rated to be in enclosure with certain amount of other drives, so in separate enclosures there Shouldn't be any issues. To be honest there is no issues if you had more in the one, it's just not recommended by the manufacturer.

  • Emphasise on 27/04/2020 - 14:20

    Deciding on this or waiting for a Seagate Ironwolf deal. I'll be using it for a Plex server which is just a secondary PC.

    • aussieaubs on 27/04/2020 - 14:30

      save your $$ and go by best $$ per GB - 4TB for $99 is a good benchmark pricing comparison esp for plex. no biggie if it dies. set up a mirror and you're done.

      • Radiskull on 28/04/2020 - 15:12
        +1

        I want to know where you can get a 4TB drive for that price! (seriously)

        • dexx on 01/05/2020 - 22:36

          The only one ive seen is a Seagate external desktop drive

    • Caped Baldy on 27/04/2020 - 14:31

      I'm waiting for a 10tb desktop drive sale. These only barracuda pros in them.

  • freefall101 on 27/04/2020 - 14:24
    +2

    Did some harddrive cleanout over the weekend and realised the 3TB drive I use for backups is the renowned seagate failure drive - https://www.backblaze.com/blog/3tb-hard-drive-failure/

    Was going to buy a 4TB WD Blue for $160 instead but this seems a no brainer. Just hope my seagate holds out long enough!

    • aussieaubs on 27/04/2020 - 14:35

      thanks for this - i wasn't aware and i just returned a 3TB Seagate drive that had the heads crash… bugger… they were nice about it and they gave me a 2TB external (USB drive) better than nothing after 5 years

  • abb on 27/04/2020 - 14:29

    Five generations of HelioSeal technology (10TB and above)

    So, no HelioSeal on the 8TB?

    • systema on 27/04/2020 - 14:38

      No, this is not a HelioSeal (helium) drive.

  • jedimaster on 27/04/2020 - 15:14

    Any major advantages of getting Synology NAS instead of getting a used HP Proliant Microserver which could be cheaper and also allows to install your choice of OS?

    • jollster101 on 27/04/2020 - 15:46
      +1

      If you put Xpenology on a Proliant Microserver then you are getting the Synology OS and functionality anyway.

      I used to have Xpenology running on my old N54L and it was flawless. I now have it running on a re-purposed Dell Optiplex 9020 that I picked up and threw into a standard case.

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