So my work relocated me from Melbourne to Sydney a few weeks ago, but all it ever seems to do most days in Sydney is rain. Is this a normal summer for here? Melbourne weather was way more reliable.
Does It Always Rain in Sydney?
WreckTangle on 14/02/2020 - 06:04
Last edited 14/02/2020 - 09:33 by 1 other user
Last edited 14/02/2020 - 09:33 by 1 other user
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What did they get down to? They got close to, or under 30% in the last drought.
Close to 30% in 2007 (maybe 31-32%), but not below it.
It was interesting that the desalination plant was announced when the dam levels were around 34%, but the official water plan called for a desalination plant when the levels dropped to around 30%. Sure, it was close, but it was jumping the gun. Basically, we should never have built the desalination plant. It's been a complete waste of taxpayer money.
@deek: Given the plant has been pumping out 250 million litres per day for the past year, how low would Warragamba have gotten without that contribution? It got down to ~45% as it was with the plant running. Having a backup plan seems like a good idea given the climate is getting drier and the population is increasing.
@apsilon: It will be a good idea to have a desalination plant. Just not yet. It's been a burden on tax payers when it was built, and ever since it was built.
It costs $500k/day when it's not running. In 2015, it underwent a rebuild after weather damage to the plant. This is money that is literally going down the drain.
The plant has not been running at full capacity for the past year. They were only given the go-ahead to start around a year ago. It takes many months of work to get it up to capacity. Full capacity was reached in August. Total contribution to our water supply has been minimal.
@deek: Infrastructure requires maintenance and you can't just say I want a desal plant tomorrow, they take time to plan and build. Build it to late and you're screwed. It had to be built at some point. Yes in hindsight the timing turned out to be poor but if that drought hadn't broken it would've made a bigger difference.
Even if it wasn't putting out full output until Sep that's still been 5 months, say 150 days so 37,500,000,000 litres Sep to Jan. I think that's 37.5 gigalitres, Warragamda total capacity is 2030 so in those 5 months it contributed 1.8% of Warragsmba capacity so without it the dam would've been 1.8% lower. Sure it's not a lot but at what point does it become critical? The rain we just got was an unusual event in itself.
Without the rain and the desal plant we'd be at ~40% by now? It took 3 years to build the plant. When do you build?
@apsilon: When do you build? You build when the Sydney Metropolitan Water Plan says so, which is when the water supply drops to 30%, a level that has NEVER been reached. This is not hindsight. This is a set of recommendations made a year before the desalination plant was even proposed.
Since then, the desal plant has just been a drain. We could have spent the billions of dollars on something much more productive, say like constructing decent wastewater infrastructure. Instead, the money has been going into a plant that has had no positive impact on Sydney residents, other than providing mental reassurance.
Global Cooling… It is going to keep raining unless we get the government to do something about it…
Hahahahahahahahahahaha
My favourite when we actually get rain in Sydney…
No one
Coworker: hope it’s falling where it’s needed mostCoworker: hope it’s falling where it’s needed most
It is like when there have been floods in the northern part of the state and it is sunny in Sydney and they say "I hope it's sunny up north".
I don't get why no one has posted any actual statistics. Summary is that yes, it rains more in Sydney on average and approximately twice as much rain comes down in a year total if we look at just the last 20 year averages, although Melbourne tends to have more cloudy days.
Try here for Sydney:
http://www.bom.gov.au/jsp/ncc/cdio/cvg/av?p_stn_num=066062&p…Here for Melbourne:
http://www.bom.gov.au/jsp/ncc/cdio/cvg/av?p_stn_num=086071&p…Summary is that yes, it rains more in Sydney on average and approximately twice as much rain comes down in a year total
Yes, but you probably get less rainy days. You tend to get those couple of weeks where it dumps 80-100mm every 6 months then the rest of the time is pretty sunny and mild.
More rainy days in Sydney on average. Sorry, could have been more specific with wording.
Yes and wuhan has coronavirus every day, Canberra is always on fire, and my misses is always in a good mood
Sample time one week
In Sydney, it doesn't rain; it floods…
(although, to be fair, seems to be flooding everywhere of late)
If this nonsense made to the 1st page I'm deleting my Ozb account
Lived in both cities for a very long time. Sydney has the preferable weather if you like it warm and don't mind some humidity. Sydney winters are beautiful and only really cold for a 4-6 week period. Yes it rains more heavily in Sydney when it does rain, you don't really get those annoying drizzle, cold overcast weeks that you get in Melbourne which seem like months worth in winter.
Melbourne summers are usually pretty nice, although you wouldn't know it the last two week given the horrible humidity.
LOL!
It seems like you have missed a lot of news headline over the past year, so let me catch you up…
- We've just had the worst bush fire season in history, partly due to how dry it is.
- There are level 2 water restrictions
- Our farmers have been struggling in the past year due to the drought
- Last week, in just 3 days we've received over 1 year worth of rain.
- There's a cyclone off the coast.
One or two of those should give you an idea of how much rain we get recently…
As a former Melbournian myself, what is even reliable weather?
Lolololololololololololololol
This is hard evidence that Victorian Kiwis are clueless about Sydney.
kiwi's dont care what state they end up in… as long as they get the dole. then you hear them whinge about the weather… i'll bet the weather is nicer in new zealand.
how come it's always sunny in philadelphia
Does it always rain in Sydney?
No.
Come over to the best state in Australia, WA! Puts both Syd and Melb to shame with our beautiful weather. 😁
Property is cheap, too.
Not hard to do, both Melbourne and Sydney are the slums of Australia.
Stayed in Epping for 10 yrs+.
Know exactly the location user Ghost47 is talking about. Let me tell you that there has been a lot of development in the last five years in the Epping area, esp around Carlingford Road, and the apartments are cropping up like mushrooms.
The amenities and utilities will take a bit of time to catch up, you are just caught up in the transition.I think that every place has its peculiarity- and one has to make peace and adjust to the surroundings to enjoy life.
While I really enjoyed the open streets, the food culture and lack of traffic in Melbourne, personally, would not leave Sydney for Melbourne. Sydney is where the fun is.
And yes, Sydney is more expensive- supply and demand- more people want to live here, and if you want a cheaper option, please move a few km to the suburbs. It may be difficult if you work in Macquarie Park area, as it will add to the commute. If you want a relaxed atmosphere, move to QLD, the people there are totally relaxed, but depending on your profession, it may not be an ideal move.
In summary, you are the only one with the power to choose what to do with your life. The options are there. Any ranting will only make you misrable, and offend the Sydneysiders.
Even when you left the beautiful country of NZ, that was a choice - maybe in search for a better career.Now shifted to eastern suburbs with an apartment overlooking the Golf Course, and love the lack of traffic, and take long walks to the CBD to work.
Have a wonderful day ahead.
+1 for this well written comment
I dont know why all the argument with Ghost47.
They simply put it in one post
… Have family in Melbourne.
Wherever family is makes a big difference to how you perceive any place.
The rest is just rubbish Just like living in Turramurra is different from Penrith, to Eastwood and Coogee.
Hell if I dig Surfing, living in St Kilda isnt like Living in Bondi Beach. even though the former has nice Trams and the other just crappy buses.
living in St Kilda isnt like Living in Bondi Beach.
Melbourne people don't get this. Beach in Sydney (and NSW in general) are so much nicer to frequent (although Vic has better surfing in general).
I love living near the water and did so in Sydney but i'd hate living in St Kilda now.
but i'd hate living in St Kilda now.
IT's full of gross hipsters and refugees.
It really isn't just family, Sydney overall is just worse. To reiterate:
- Roads are horribly designed and poorly maintained. Granted this isn't everywhere in Sydney but I've come across more poorly maintained roads in Sydney vs Melbourne.
- Two less public holidays. The dry stint between June to October is 4 months and feels like torture.
- In relation to the above, less sport (due to two sporting holidays in Melbourne). No F1, no Australian Open. If I settle here and have family I can't take them to these sporting events unless we fly/drive which adds much more cost and inconvenience.
- Hard to get to places such as the snow, again, can't take family unless I make it a very long day or stay overnight (again, costly) as it takes what, 5-6 hours to get to the Snowy Mountains?
- Apartments are a rip off here, the prices are actually insane, and what you get is an apartment for which you have to pay body corp/strata, no land, dry your clothes on the balcony deal. It's a joke.
- Less events here. No International Comedy Festival, no Harry Potter play.
- CBD is poorly laid out, very hilly (as is all of Sydney really).
Family and friends play a massive role, the above makes it even worse. People can hate on my opinion, but I don't care, I don't see this city as being very nice having lived in both. The work here is good, but I can't see myself raising a family in this place. It's too expensive and there's not as much to do compared to Melbourne. I don't care much for beaches either.
Now shifted to eastern suburbs with an apartment overlooking the Golf Course, and love the lack of traffic
It is different traffic. But still lots of it. When I lived next to the beach in the Eastern suburbs I liked the small town feel of the traffic (on non weekend days) but go anywhere near a main arterial in Sydney and they all suck. Just a prettier drive around the eastern suburbs.
I'd like you to read the reply I wrote to RockyRaccoon's reply, more summarised reasons why I dislike Sydney.
Understandable that Epping/Carlingford/Marsfield/Mac Park are in transition, but it's clearly been overlooked badly.
I think we have different definitions of fun… I don't care for beaches, but I do care for things such as: quicker access to snow, sporting events, more public holidays, less crowded roads (also wider and better maintained roads), cheaper property, being able to go to the grocery store and get stock (more often than not), places like Kryal Castle, Sovereign Hill, Peninsula Hot Springs, Daylesford Day Spas, The Dandenong Ranges, Great Ocean Road etc.
Ok people, i still stand by my original post…Sydney rains lots and lots! Especially on most Thursdays i’ve noticed!
It didn't rain last Thursday. Or the Thursday before that.
Agreed last Thursday was nice, but its rained in western sydney for 4 of the last 5 thursdays
I live in Western Sydney; it didn't rain on the 12th …
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Dams were never at 30 percent.