How long do you travel to get to work?
I live in Perth and spend an average of 1.5 hours to get to work one way (a total of 3 hours a day). Is this too long?
How Long Do You Travel for Work?
Cynicaloflife on 01/02/2020 - 18:56
Last edited 02/02/2020 - 10:53 by 1 other user
Last edited 02/02/2020 - 10:53 by 1 other user
Poll Options
- 65No, it is acceptable
- 783Yes, it is too long
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Frankston, Pakenham or Cranbourne?
None of the above.
Frankston, Pakenham or Cranbourne?
Lol. Try 60-90mins from either of those locations during peak.
Cranbourne line reporting in. Home to work (Collins St) door to door is 90 mins on a good day. 120-150 mins each way if delays/cancellations
I live in Tas, about half an hour is the norm here
Depends where you come from and what time.
When I was in howrah it was 25 mins during peak but 15 at 7:30 in the morning.
In Claremont it's 18m on a good day (school holidays and green lights) otherwise 25ish is the norm.Agree. And depends whether you go through the city or not to work as well. Didn't think it would be any more than half an hour either case
There are jobs in Tassie?
no
no but you can drive from the Northmost point to Southmost point in half an hour
@capslock janitor: More so 7 hours, I know it's sarcasm but some people don't understand Tasmania isn't THAT small
half an hour?
I'm like 8 minutes on a good day
Given the question shouldn't the options be "yes, it is acceptable" and "no, it is too long"?
The way you have written it makes no sense.
Good Point! And revised
Well now the response I picked is probably wrong
I would never travel more than 20-25 minutes one way, I'd rather be unemployed than waste so much of my life.
100%, If I have to travel more than 30 minutes I'd not want to be working full time, maybe only 2-3 days a week or I'd just get on benefits and enjoy all my free time
If you work in the city, how would you afford to live within 30 mins working part time?
I currently have $2500 a month leftover and am 15 minutes from the CBD itself, even working 1 day a week I can afford to live the same lifestyle I have now..?
firstly, I'm appalled by such entitlement. I love our social security and feels that my tax money will contribute to a safety net for more vulnerable/ down-trodden. and there are people like you who just are straight up lazy whilst collecting tax payer money.
secondly, how can you enjoy any free time living on benefits? there's nothing in it.
It's pretty simple, they have no concept of what living on welfare is like. There are actually people who think those on welfare are living it up. Not always, but it's often people who have never had to worry about money. To get off welfare I travelled 2.5hrs each way to work until I saved up enough money to move closer. Even with some casual work, living in a cheaper area, it was not fun being on welfare.
So currently I've been working full time since I was 15, 25 now, had a period of 3 months unemployment and had all the time in the world to do whatever I wanted.
Sure I only had $200 a fortnight leftover when I was on benefits but I don't need money to enjoy riding my skateboard at the park, playing basketball, going for walks, enjoying my video games and getting on with photography and arts/crafts. I had more time to go on dates and spend time with friends than what I currently do and would love it back, it might have helped massively that I have my own sustainable urban farm and make a lot of things from scratch.
I'm not sure why I got negged so much, I only have a 60k/yr job, so I'd consider myself just above median wage and well below average… My time is one of, if not the most valuable things I can have and it sucks to see that you guys don't seem to value yours; more than likely stuck blindly in the rat race when there's really nowhere to go or nothing to do besides enjoy your short amount of time on this planet.
Guess I should take your assumption and quit my job and be lazy and make you partially deal with it and make it your problem :)
@[Deactivated]: No, I value my time plenty, my time is spent at work so that I can ensure I put a roof over my daughter head. She is disabled so I will need to save enough for her lifetime. With the way it's going though, I will fall short but I will give it a decent push.
I respect people who work little and enjoy their free time; not those who do that while bludging off the system. I've friends who worked hard and retire early or build their self-sufficient property. None of those ever draw a dollar from cenrelink. They don't make their life choices become a burden for other people.
40+ min
You are spending more than 10% of your life getting to/from work.
Unless that is short term and for a reason, no that's not okay.
The poll options have an inherent ambiguity and contridiction. You ask 'Is it acceptable', then list the supporting option as 'no'. Instead, the poll options should be:
A) I would not accept a 1.5hour one way commute time
B) I would accept a 1.5 hour one way commute time
Exactly. This is why I mistakenly voted No.
Wtf. Do you live in Mandurah and drive to Butler during peak hours? How far away do you live from your job where it takes 1.5 hours to get to work?
Yeah that's crazy! You'd certainly look to change jobs or move house to reduce that
Your not wrong. I do actually work in both Mandurah and Close of Butler.
Cant change jobs, One is NOR and another is SOR xD.
Horribly worded poll and forum post.
Would be good if you provided some clarity.
You have two jobs and between them you spend 3 hours a day on the road?
Considering the jobs, your time, and the tax you pay, do you think it's worth it? Why not look for another job?
@ozhunter: One job is North of Perth and the other is South of Perth. So even if I moved closer to one, the commute time to other will increase. I wake up at 4:30 am and come home between 7-8 pm. It is certainly not worth it as I don't have personal time for myself.
But I just can't find another job. I am currently working in Healthcare and Perth just doesn't have enough work. It took me 8 months just to get this gig, but now the travel time is destroying me.
@Cynicaloflife: Do a little maths on your income including travel then decide if it's worth it. Let's assume 7.6h rostered pay and 2h more travel time per day than is typical. Working 9.6h a day is equivalent to dropping your pay per hour by about 20%. So $35/h (as an example) becomes $28/h. Now add in petrol and car maintenance. Now add in lifestyle loss and possible mental health impacts.
Unless you are on a clear path to a better job in the near future and are happy taking this loss for now, I would strongly reconsider this position and even potentially the industry if you can't find an alternative option.
5mins. 3-4 if the traffic is good
What came first : job or house?
House
One hour each way through 2 tolls. Four day work week though.
Same, but five days.
I love my job so to those who think I'm wasting my life away in travel… fair enough I guess. One day I might move closer but it's fine for now, anything that's less than an hour I consider better than what I grew up with living rural where getting anywhere took ages.
i thought perth housing is cheap enough to live closer to work
Cheaper than Sydney.
Cheaper than other cities, but housing close to the CBD is still beyond the reach of most which has resulted in a lot of urban sprawl.
OP commented that he essentially works two jobs at the far end of the city, one deep north and one deep south.
Wow, that's a horribly worded poll…
And no, for a place the size of Perth. Even for a place the size of Sydney, it would be a bit too much. But, I guess it comes down to how much you earn and how long your shifts are.
I travel about that amount from my workplace 30km away. It takes around 90 minutes driving from my house to the train station, catching the train, then walking 15 minutes to my work. Driving reduces that by almost half, but at the expense of parking, tolls, etc.
When I lived in Melbourne, my work was 25km away. When I started there, it was 30~40 mins to get to work in a car. As Melbourne expanded west, it got longer and longer until it was an average of 1 hour travel to get to work. Time to quit. That’s 2 hours a day getting to and from work that I could be doing something else, and because it was related to work, I always felt it was like doing my job for $0/hour.
But yeah, it would all depends on what your options are with relation to fuel, parking and tolls. If the cost of these would be less than the time it would save you, not worth it. If your hourly rate is $50, and it cost you $30 in parking and $20 in tolls, you would need to save at least an hours travelling time just to break even.
Glad Perth doesn't have tolls.
Apologies, I cannot change it anymore.
But those who are confused, should go off the following:
A) I would not accept a 1.5hour one way commute time
B) I would accept a 1.5 hour one way commute timeThat's not the way i believe we are voting though…..
A. It is acceptable
B. It is too longYeah, this. I just removed the Yes and No and voted based on the context given.
Just change the question if you can't change the options, "Is this too long?"
No, it's acceptable.
Yes, it's too long.
In my last job I travelled about 1hr each way and worked there for 5 years.
I recently started a new job and was very lucky to find one a 10 minute walk from my home.
15 min round trip each day car. 40 return by bike, 20 by bus
I wouldn't live more than 30 minutes away from work. We only have 14 or so waking hours a day. I'm not spending 3 of them in the car or a train.
About 10 mins
30 mins early morning, at least an hour in shitty Mitchell Fwy traffic in avo.
Not to mention the roadworks on Freeway thats been slowly going on for over a year
Sometimes if I'm listening to a good podcast I will take the long way home. I once took 1 hour for a 35 minute trip.
By choice vs by force.
you always have a choice
Every job I've had I've made sure I either lived near there or was able to move close, at my previous job it was an hour drive if I left at 7:30am or a 25 minute drive if I left at 7:20am. I ended up moving closer (about a 5 minute drive) and have since moved to another job about 5 minutes away as well.
My time is one of the most valuable things I have, getting a good nights sleep is essential as well as feeling like I'm not just working during the week and weekends I have free so being within a super close distance is absolutely vital to me.
It's also the reason I'll be renting for the rest of my life lol.Door to door 1.5 hours each way (VIC).
+30min-1hr each way probably once/fortnight due to the shabby Metro structure (malfunctions on all hot days, cancelled services, ill passengers delay the entire line, trespassers on the tracks, continued train "upgrades" etc.
Im guessing this is from cranbourne
is that an acceptable average for a city of Perth's size?
LOL you already know the answer, no.
Used to spend 1.5-2 hrs each way to get to uni each day 4-5 days a week. Drive + train + walk. I didnt know any better at the time.
Then I had a job with 45min-1hour drive each way for many years. I thought it was a god send after uni.
Now I have a 15min walk each way to work. Now I dont know what I was smoking when I was younger.
Imo, 1.5hrs is doable but certainly not enjoyable and ideally not for long term. If you have kids, you will feel the strain.
before coming to australia i used to complain about 15mn drive or 30mn train rides (that were on time). no way i thought i'd drive 40mn, I gave up on trains it's so shameful.
1.5hrs each way sounds like a long time IF you just look at the time only perspective
HOWEVER
if you are able to spend that travel time learning, meditating, relaxing and doing things to grow yourself, then I would have no issue with that travelling that long each day.
Please don't 'meditate and relax' when you're driving, and you can learn much more effectively when you don't have 1500kg of steel in your hands.
Driving needs your attention on the road, i appreciate my life and my limbs.
There are ways of getting to work that don't involve driving…
True, looks like I assumed driving.
If you are not driving, different ballgame.
Good luck meditating on a peak hour train.
@TheMindsetTraveller: Have you ever taken a peak hour inbound train? Standing room only with barely room to move your elbows. Good luck even reaching out for a paperback, or peacing out next to screaming teenagers. There's nothing relaxing about it.
@SydStrand: Yes I have in the past but havent caught a train in almost two decades.
There is such thing as standing meditation; it's not just sitting down, legs crossed, in a quiet space.
Google your top 5 people you look up to or who you want to be or how to achieve success, I bet that 4 of them will do regularly some for of meditation.
Yes I have in the past but havent caught a train in almost two decades.
Good luck achieving inner peace when the school kids are throwing food, someone's backpack is pressed in your face, and guy next to you is screaming into his phone.
Google your top 5 people you look up to or who you want to be or how to achieve success, I bet that 4 of them will do regularly some for of meditation.
Stop arguing against a point no one made. I'm not advocating against meditation, but rather your impractical suggestion of 'just meditate, bro!' It's 2020, gramps. Maybe back in the day, one could manspread out and unfurl a broadseet, catch some Zzzs, or meditate. Try that today.
@SydStrand: hahaha if you think meditating is to find inner peace then you are mistaken
and you argued my point first with "good luck meditating on a peak hour train" - so you should expect feed back "young one", and if you think I am gramps, then again your are mistaken "young one", for what its worth, the last time i caught a train I could have been two years old "young one"
moving forward from your comments it seems you get angry quite quickly and meditation might be a fantastic outlet for you, should consider trying it….
""Meditation is a simple practice available to all, which can reduce stress, increase calmness and clarity and promote happiness"" I quoted that from this article
https://www.nytimes.com/guides/well/how-to-meditate@TheMindsetTraveller: You suggest the OP practise meditation on their commute, then admit that you haven't caught a train in 20 years. Either you're suggesting they meditate at the wheel, or you're telling them to do it on a train, and it obviously hasn't occurred to you that modern public transport isn't exactly conducive to emptying one's mind. No anger here, bud.
@SydStrand: Happy to keep debating till the cows come home "young one"
Novak Djokovic meditates an hour a day, won a bit over AUD$200 million dollars in prize money
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novak_Djokovic#Early_and_perso…
Google ANY of the people you like / want to follow / idols / champions and you will know meditation is great.
15-20mins drive each way.
I work from home 2 out of 3 days I work each week so zero commute on those days and the one day a week I'm in the office is a 45 minute commute (5 min walk, 40 min train, 5 min walk).
20secs (I work from home most of the time)
15mins if I go to the office, 35mins is I need to go into the city office
15-20 minutes for 20km in rush hour with several school zones. I drive ;)
3 hours door to door return
FML!!
15mins door to door.
5 min drive to work. and 15min late ever single day
10 mins if the traffic's bad (I cross a railway level crossing), or about 15 mins if I cycle
On a good day it takes me about 15mins from home to work. Work to home is always a little longer because the Murray St onramp onto the Freeway is a nightmare.
On an average day 25-30 minsI live in Perth and spend an average of 1.5 hours to get to work one way (a total of 3 hours a day). Is that an acceptable average for a city of Perth's size?
Where T F do you live in Perth?
Perth is cheap compared to the Eastern states.
Even 500k you can get within 10kms of the GPO.
My commute is an 1 & 20 minutes including finding parking/walking to the office. I could probably slash 20 or 30 minutes if I went through the Burnley tunnel
1 hour to work and 1 hour to 1.5 back.
<35mins each way, but I carpool with my man, so I only have to drive 3 days a week.
You need to get some perspective. I travel 80 minutes each way to work. But where I live is very open living, large affordable housing in Sydney with good schools. I pay a very low mortgage compared to people in much smaller houses closer to the city. So for me, I put up with the long haul so my family can have a better quality of life. During that time I use it to read, study, watch TV shows etc so it isnt wasted… I actually look forward to it. If I lived closer I would be double or triple for half the house. So I depend where you are in life and it is all relative. You say you wont live more than 30 minutes away, but if I said Ill pay you double your current salary .. would that tempt you? You need to look at the bigger picture before you pass judgement
My last job moved from being 20 mins away to about 90mins away on the other side of the city. If they had offered me double salary, I still would have laughed in their face when they asked me to stay on. Personally I’d rather be at home enjoying the property I’m paying for.
Has it happened? Where you were offered double your salary?
Read much?
Interesting take. I currently live in a Townhouse on the lower north shore which is about 20 mins by train (incl walk) to Wynyard. We've just had our first baby, and if i was to change that 40mins to day commute to 3hrs per day, its 2-2.5hrs a day less that i get to spend with my family. And then i'm further from the beach/friends etc for the weekend.
I could certainly buy a house further out for what i paid for my townhouse, but right now time with family is more important to me than less time in a bigger home…
35-50 mins one way door to door depending on train delays.