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Hyundai 7.3kw Split System Inverter Air Conditioner $899 (Was $1199) Delivered @ Kogan

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Hyundai 7.3kw Split System Inverter Air Conditioner $899 (Was $1199) Delivered @ Kogan
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worker on 27/12/2019 - 19:55 kogan.com (2766 clicks)
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Kogan have taken $700 off this for the Boxing Day sale, you can stack the coolbox coupon to get a further 25% off making it $899 delivered, pretty bloody good for a 7kw aircon

7.3kW Cooling power – ideal for rooms up to 50sqm
Hyundai-quality reverse cycle heating and cooling
Energy-efficient inverter technology
3D Oscillation – up, down, left, right
3 Fan speeds and louver position memory
Quiet operation and built-in 24-hour timer
Dual drainage
Using inverter technology to quietly, efficiently and quickly draw in the surrounding air and circulate it with 3D oscillation, the Hyundai 7.3kW Split System Inverter Air Conditioner (24,000 BTU, Reverse Cycle) releases a powerful flow of hot or cold air to achieve your ideal temperature.

This is part of Boxing Day Sales for 2019
Home & Garden Air Conditioner Boxing Day Hyundai

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          • Numpty21 on 28/12/2019 - 12:38

            @worker: So you install yourself or free??

            • worker on 28/12/2019 - 12:42

              @Numpty21: Sadly not a sparky or a fridgy, just a lonely old plumber with a b grade disconnect reconnect that fixes appliances. My friend will install it for me

            • BlitzR on 28/12/2019 - 12:43
              +1

              @Numpty21: No he has a mate that does cheap installs for cash. 🙄

              • worker on 28/12/2019 - 12:46
                -1

                @BlitzR: You jelly? you have any friends ?

          • subcool on 28/12/2019 - 12:55
            +2

            @worker: So if you pay $2000 for a daikin for example that lasts 10 years no issues 2000/10 is only $200 per year for cooling and you have 5 years warranty with an aftersales service team and guaranteed spare parts sounds better in the long term.

            • worker on 28/12/2019 - 13:01

              @subcool: Imagine this one lasts for 10 years too $120 a year, even cheaper. It’s a punt and time will tell.

              • Tuba on 28/12/2019 - 20:13

                @worker: Imagine is the only way this lasts 1/2 as long as a major brand…

      • Numpty21 on 28/12/2019 - 12:39
        +6

        Yeah I’ll call the ACCC on a 40 degree day when my ac isn’t working, I’m sure they’ll send someone straight out to fix it

  • worker on 28/12/2019 - 12:13

    I tell ya what, I’ll do a YouTube vidya for y’all once it’s installed and working. ( or not working ) I’ll do an honest review compared to my Mitsubishi 5kw in the other room.

  • AFOS on 28/12/2019 - 12:27
    +2

    I found myself in a similar situation before when I tried to get some funny no-name unit fixed at work. We spent over $300 in call-out fees for 2 technicians to identify the fault with zero result. Inconvenience of working in a hot office was probably 10 times of that. Ended up replacing the whole unit. Neg from me

    • worker on 28/12/2019 - 12:32

      Yep will happen with this unit as well 100% as you say

  • Petronas on 28/12/2019 - 12:27

    Does anyone know what Chinese company produces these units?

    The shape/design looks exactly the same as a Kelvinator, Gree or MrCool unit from America.

    • worker on 28/12/2019 - 12:30
      +1

      Your probably on to it, I agree. Plus the Same 3 speed fan That kelvinator uses.

      • Petronas on 28/12/2019 - 12:35

        In saying that though I've had my 3 x 2.5kw Kelvinator units since November 2017 and they have been excellent with noise and efficiency.

        I did however choose Kelvinator because they were the cheapest with local warranty and service options.

  • whytd on 28/12/2019 - 12:28
    +6

    I'm in the appliance industry, and I'm with many other people here - just cause it's cheap doesn't mean it's good. Sorry OP- no hard feelings.

    • worker on 28/12/2019 - 12:30

      None taken friend, just cause it’s cheap doesn’t make it shit either. You can have a bet each way.

      • unifex on 29/12/2019 - 01:27
        +1

        Hey I agree you have every right to post it. Its a deal by the metrics of this site. As you said previously if you don't like it dont buy it. But people can post their opinions too.

  • ibfragalot on 28/12/2019 - 13:50

    Wow… people will argue about anything on the internet!

    Its a decent sized AC made by a reputable manufacturer ( http://hyundai-hvac.com/ ) at a good price, but with limited warranty/support. End of story.

  • MrGecko on 28/12/2019 - 16:25
    +1

    it’s a false economy purchasing a product without parts/ servicing network… pay a bit more for a brand you will be able to find parts for in 8 years time when Russel Kogan doesn’t answer your calls.

  • Obkay on 28/12/2019 - 16:30
    +1

    Good luck getting any kind of technical or warranty support for this.

    • resisting the urge on 28/12/2019 - 21:45
      +5

      I have little doubt that 90% of people will be installing this product themselves, or 'with the help of an (unqualified) mate' to save cash. Install requires correct torques and bends on the copper tubing, specialised tools, charging the loop and both units with Nitrogen, then vacuuming the system before pressuisation and testing of the system and the four brass joints- as well as the physical installation which with copper tubing which is tricky for those not familiar with plumbing and AC.

      Kogan knows this, and may only offer to fix it only once you prove to them that a qualified AC installer installed the unit. They know that faulty installs result in squashed tubing, limited performance, system shutdowns, escaped refrigerant, failed compressors, water and other contaminants entering the system, etc. The systems usually work off the bat, but any of the above (especially anything causing a leak) will result in a problem at some point

      IOW, it is possible that Kogan (I'm not saying he will) will avoid 90% of all warranty claims. The rest will receive a replacement unit, but only once they send the old one back and it checks out as not having been abused/poorly installed.

      Technicians will not come to check faults without charge, unless you can quote ACCC rulings about similar cases re AC units over the phone and force them to do the right thing. Even then, if you can, they won't have parts, product specific training, or really be able to fix without effecting a replacement.

      • BlitzR on 29/12/2019 - 10:16

        Watch out mate, this @worker guy Might DM you and call you a moron because he thinks you are hating his OP

        • worker on 29/12/2019 - 11:33

          Unfortunately, you just post comments with nfi

        • resisting the urge on 29/12/2019 - 12:19
          +3

          Yea, well he might be right :-p

          But, that said, I posted that as a member of the family had their AC fail just as the heat hit. I finally got to take a look on boxing day, and it had been installed with the following faults;

          • the condensation drain was attached to a vertical piece of conduit, which dripped onto the ground beside the house. The white ant inspector wrote a report warning about this 4 years ago (1 year after the installation). I went under the house and found a termite tunnel between the bearer and the joist just above the AC unit, as thick as my arm. So screw the AC, even in the searing heat this problem dwarfs all else. To make matters worse, the conduit was just taped to the hanging end of the pipe, with electrical tape. Without a physical fastening, it could only have lasted a day or so in the sun, because in the heat PVC tape doesn't hold anything in shear. Anyhow, gravity had caused the the pipe to drop off, so for >4 years or so water had dripped out of the pipe, onto the pipe-set, down the inside of its insulation, over the valves of the outdoor unit, into unit itself before finally going to ground, causing corrosion and at some point, eventual failure.

          • the holes in the wall weren't sealed, so roaches and all kinds of bugs had a highway in and out of the house. Egg cases inside the internal AC unit, plus dust and other poultice being sucked/blown in and fouling up the heat exchanger.

          • the flare joint nuts weren't torqued correctly (very over-tight)

          • the flares were poorly made
          • the hole that allowed the pipes through the wall had been cut right through half of an upright, weakening the wall
          • the internal unit was low on the non-drained side, causing water not to completely drain (great for bugs to breed)
          • the unit was installed with a 16A MCB (not an RCBO), and via a 15A wall socket instead of a hard-wired isolation switch
          • the cable was 15A cable, not 20 A.

          Ultimately the unit had run low on gas as the high side pipe had a slow refrigerant leak. The termites are another story.

          Ironically this was the result of a commercial installer, which is a result of installers only getting in trouble when
          - someone's house burns down,
          - one or more die, and
          - a forensic investigation is called for
          - a conclusion provides evidence beyond reasonable doubt, and
          - results in the culprit being identified, charged and convicted

          All the other times, the shoddy installers get away with it. A mate of mine recently had 3 units replaced. When he began decommissioning the old units, the installer opened them upand evacuated all the gas to the atmosphere in massive blurts of boiling liquid. Downright dangerous (it burns/freezes fingers off, blinds people, is highly flammable), not to mention unlawful. But that guy seemed to risk the $1200 fine because… he won't get caught, even when he does it in front of customers.

          If you DIY, you risk a lot of problems, particularly fire, because the new refrigerants are so much more flammable than the old ones. Personally, I would ask my installer exactly what procedure I'm paying them to do. It should include Nitrogen flushing, correct oil on all joints, vacuum of the system, testing for leaks, and drainage appropriate to the site, not just a pipe dripping onto the ground. And whatever else I don't know, or have missed!

          • BlitzR on 29/12/2019 - 13:03
            +1

            @resisting the urge: don't worry mate. No matter what you say it's like talking to a brick wall when it comes to giving advice to @worker. If you look through all the constructive criticisms that people make, he gets on the defensive, calls then keyboard warriors, even called all the ppl who neg-ed the OP pathetic and gives them the 🖕. Very childish. He even went as far as sending me a DM and calling me moron 🤔.

            • resisting the urge on 29/12/2019 - 13:06
              +1

              @BlitzR: @BlitzR, Thanks for the warning! I guess at the end of the day, we all hope for a life of simplicity and comfort ;-)

              • BlitzR on 29/12/2019 - 13:11

                @resisting the urge: I was one the the people who were actually going to buy this aircon. That was until I did a little investigating and noticed that there was zero authorised Hyundai service depts in Aus, and Kogan after sales for such a big item like this would be useless, so common sense prevailed and I removed it from the sales cart….

                On a side note, Hisense have actually released aircons with 5yrs warranty and actual Australian after sales support. It's currently only sold by TGG, but for jus over $1000, on TGG commercial site it's very tempting.

                • resisting the urge on 29/12/2019 - 13:20

                  @BlitzR: After sales support needs to be well resourced and stocked with parts. Only the brand name ones are getting anywhere near that in the miniscule Au market.

                  Most if not all have 5 year warranty thanks to the statutory warranty provisions on AC units under Au law. I'd favour the Korean ones over the Chinese, regardless of where they are made, as they have been doing it longer and parts/info can be found if you luck out. But don't go past the Panasonics or the Fujitsus (you can find them on special lots of times), just know the model numbers (from memory the Panasonic's are CU-ZXXVR, Fujitsus to get are KMCA/KMCB/KUCA and the new ones are KMCC), or if on a budget some (definitely not all) of the LGs are quite efficient, and can be bought cheaply from the right places. Choice magazine do a decent job of ranking them all by model number, feautre and efficiency, btw. Avoiding the Wifi ones can be worthwhile, the Wi-Fi modules are as bad as they were when I bought the Samsung 6 years ago. The modules are on all the time, using power if you use them or not. Worse, they can be hard to disconnect (you have to open up the casing to unplug them), and are really just an open door to your home network if you don't.

                  If you get 20 years from a properly installed, quality unit, the extra few hundred over a Hyundai or a Hisense would be well spent- not just avoiding the costs of repair, but the hassles of having to repair or replace.

                  • BlitzR on 29/12/2019 - 13:42

                    @resisting the urge: I've been keeping n eye out for aircon specials n manufacturer cashbacks for my sister, but haven't seen any and the cashbacks seem to only be offered during the winter periods when aircon sales are low..

                    Panasonic is actually the brand I want to buy next, but I don't know if their air purifier feature actually works or is a gimmick.

                    I actually bought a few Samsung aircons purchased from Masters 6yrs ago also (the cashback rebate came in very handy) and found the Wi-Fi feature useful, especially When I'm in bed and the remote is far aware in the holder. Even though the Wi-Fi module is always on, I only assume that it really wouldn't use much wattage (comparable to the lifx Wi-Fi lights).
                    The after sales support is pretty great (made 2 claims for my parents), considering they no longer sell the split systems retail (I do see why?).

                    • resisting the urge on 29/12/2019 - 13:53
                      +1

                      @BlitzR: If you like the utility of it, that is another thing. When we opt-in to tech we do it at own cost/perils. Have you thought about who else is at risk from being attacked in the house? Kids are attacking each other with tech all the time these days

                      The $10 IoT (my buy, individually) modules all the AC manufacturers use are crap and the software they implement is worse. Not sure about the Panasonics, I've never seen their modules, but Japanese software engineering is likely to better than what I've seen in the latest LG and Samsung. But it could be the same, who knows? The wretched things use power and transmit all the time, they let you set a password but remain fully accessible using admin/admin and so on. If they just used Bluetooth LE or something else it'd be fine, but most source cheap, old modules as bad as the cheap IoT lightbulbs have.

                      Haven't seen a half-good one yet.

                      Yes, you are right, Samsung support is better now, but it is because they now have a big network of agents/techs and stock and source parts. Once they didn't, and things were very different then. But the parts are very expensive now, so people are beginning to chuck to landfill and replace- and without any brand loyalty when that happens ;-)

                      • BlitzR on 29/12/2019 - 14:21

                        @resisting the urge: CZ-TACG1 is the wlan option for the Panasonic units. There is a YouTube video on how to install it, but it hangs outside the unit n looks stupid. I'm amazed that there are no manufactures out there is propped wlan integration.

                        I've gotten over 6yrs of usage out of my Samsung's without issue, so I can't complain.

                      • worker on 29/12/2019 - 14:30

                        @resisting the urge: The Mitsubishi Wi-Fi module is actually quite robust and works very well. They are the main ones we use and install.

                        Oh and guess what, I’m a cowboy we never use nitrogen when we solder our joins. I know I’m going too hell for this but oh well.

                        • resisting the urge on 29/12/2019 - 14:59

                          @worker: ME or MHI? Either way, never seen the type of modules they provide. Which are they?

                          N2 is great for soldering, not just for the internal cleanliness (Godliness is better than Hell, no?), and better to use JIC the pipes have any left over refrigerant hanging about.

                          But if you don't take a bottle of N2 to site like so many don't, it's probably a little too much to ask for a cheapskate install. I guess few will pay extra for a proper job, but a far bigger few can be arsed to do one also.

                          • BlitzR on 29/12/2019 - 15:25

                            @resisting the urge: Your comments come across as comments from a person who knows what he is talking about. Can't say much for someone else who is a plumber who just talks so it of his arse…

                            • resisting the urge on 29/12/2019 - 15:36
                              +1

                              @BlitzR: Regardless, all the agro reads badly. Chillin' is a better livin', or so says the refrigeration industry

                          • worker on 29/12/2019 - 16:46

                            @resisting the urge: ME primarily MAC-568IF-E is the adapter, it hangs off the side but you can install it inside the unit behind the board if you wish, it does fit nicely. the interface is great, you can use it via phone app or via web interface. we have a private iftt script we offer our customers as well

                            • resisting the urge on 29/12/2019 - 23:13

                              @worker: What is inside the plastic shell of that adapter is probably what all the Korean ones (and others) have.

                              Each implement different software to attempt similar things, most use an ESP8266 or equivalent board inside, they use hard-coded username/pwds, collectable hashes, remain open to everyone in range of your house even after you follow the instructions to lock it down and change the pwd, etc.

                              I'm not saying they don't work, but all are the electronic equivalent of leaving your door open 24x7 to anyone walking past.

                              Simply too risky to link to anything like a network, computers or a phone, and given that they fail the most rudimentary security checks, it is shocking to me that they charge 15x what the hardware actually retails for

            • worker on 29/12/2019 - 14:40

              @BlitzR: Don’t need your advice as it’s worthless, why would I listen to someone who is going by what google, Mum and dad have and what you have personally bought vs someone who works in the industry.

  • [Deactivated] on 29/12/2019 - 14:27

    DO NOT BUY this. It looks very suspicious as Hyundai never produced any air conditioner and Hyundai official website never mentioned about it except South African reseller. where does it come from and manufactured????

    • worker on 29/12/2019 - 14:31

      Run, panic it may blow up! Fark it’s a knock off!

  • Jace81 on 30/12/2019 - 00:53

    Can someone reign in some of the comments, if you don’t like the deal, don’t buy it. (profanity)

    • Tuba on 31/12/2019 - 23:39

      I prefer they comment, lucky for me thats how the internet and social media like this place works.

  • worker on 08/01/2020 - 12:18
    -2

    Just received the unit today, so far so good nothing on it looks out of place or cheapish.
    Only give away is that is says “imported/distributed by Kogan Aust” and licensed by “Hyundai Corporation Holdings Korea”

    Let you know how we go with install next week.

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