Best price for those looking for one of the best featured adsl 2+ modem router. check it out yourself.
DUAL BAND is when you have 2 different Bands as in Frequencies 5Ghz & 2.4Ghz, it does not relate to having two different chips, this has an N chip that can transmit at 5Ghz & 2.4Ghz. If you are talking about backwards compatibility, the 5Ghz band won't work under ANY G conditions, the 2.4 will work with everything.
The router can transmit in 2 bands simultaneously - 2.4ghz and 5ghz. You can use 2.4ghz for b/g/n, 5ghz is a/n only and requires your PC wifi adapter to be 5ghz compatible.
Although Dell has free delivery, you can buy this cheaper at many other PC stores.
http://www.staticice.com.au/cgi-bin/search.cgi?q=WNDR3700&sp…
I think you're confused slightly with the model number, the one you posted does not have an integrated modem as much, it is only a stand alone router.
I stand corrected. Considering the free delivery, this is an ok deal.
Thank you so much o.p! I was looking at one today at JB retailing for $299.00! This is a welcoming saving!
Still probably better off getting the Asus rt56u with the $50 visa card promo.
RT56U costs $132 after the $50 discount. For $37 more, you get an integrated modem. I think that'a a pretty good buy.
Asus RT56U is a router only. Netgear DGND3700 is a modem router. Please people, do your homework. Geesh…
Wndr3700 does not have adsl 2+ modem… It's a different model
5% cheaper at officeworks using the price-beat:
http://www.officeworks.com.au/retail/b2c/display/(cpgsize=10&layout=5.1-25_125_125_196_198_197_199_206_5_125_125_130_125_125_77_125_125_201_202_125&uiarea=4&cpgnum=1&cquery=dgnd3700)/.do?rf=y
not sure about the best featured - I like the Billion better with VOIP include - http://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/50869
but the billion is not gigabit and is wireless g (dated)
I never said it has - I was simly commenting on the best featured the OP has mentioned!
The Billon 7800N has the same feature set, well regarded and is $9 cheaper for pickup.. How is this better??
Only reason would be if you live in a area with alot of congestion on the 2.4GHz band, then the 5GHZ would give significantly better speeds more than likely. That said I dont plan on upgrading my 7800N any time soon!!
It has got 4 port gigabit LAN, dual band wireless N, USB port to connect a external hdd to act as a Simple NAS. DLNA certified so your smart Tv can stream media off it…. The possibilities…. Only lacking VoIP but u can buy a separated adapter for $20
The Billon 7800N also has a 4 port gigabit LAN. However this unit also has Dual Band, USB Port Sharing .. Just curious, which VOIP adapter is available for $20..
Billion 7800N specs: http://au.billion.com/product/wireless/bipac7800n.php for comparison.
I read the specs. Didn't see any USB ports listed for 7800N.
DGND3700 is a simultaneous dual band router. It can transmit two APs, one on the 5GHz band and another on the 2.4GHz band simultaneously. The Billion model will work at the speed of the slowest device in your home. So if you have a PS3 connecting to the Billion on WiFi, the listed 300Mbps is pointless because the network will work at 54Mbps max. Most of the smartphones still use 'G' as well so the Billion will work at 54Mbps. Whereas the simultaneous dual band DGND3700 will allow to transmit 2 APs, so the slower devices won't bring down the network speed of your faster devices as long as you connect to the correct AP. And also, like stewy said, in congested areas the 5Ghz band makes a huge difference. Places like my home in the Melbourne CBD. Around 40 WiFi APs visible from my machines. Congestion is no joke.
You can also argue that the fastest internet speed we have is 25Mbps so 54Mbps is plenty. But wireless streaming and file sharing at home will definitely see a benefit.
Second, DGND3700 also has also 2 USB Ports which you can plug hard drives into. And it's also DNLA certified so can you stream movies from the router straight to a SmartTV, PS3, Xbox 360 and other media player that can search for media servers.
EDIT: DGND3700: http://www.netgear.com/home/products/wirelessrouters/high-pe…
You can say, 'Those features aren't important to me'. But they are to others. Well worth the extra 9 bucks if you ask me.
Go with your VoIP provider. I m with mynetfone and they provide this adapter for $19.95.
https://www.mynetfone.com.au/Residential/Home-Phone/VoIP-Onl…
Where can I get a $20 voip adapter without joining a plan with cost $99 in total….
Quote kingsize balls
"The Billion model will work at the speed of the slowest device in your home. So if you have a PS3 connecting to the Billion on WiFi, the listed 300Mbps is pointless because the network will work at 54Mbps max…so the slower devices won't bring down the network speed of your faster devices as long as you connect to the correct AP. "
Woah, never heard of that. Are you sure? Any sources or tests to back that up? I always thought that each device would operate at its own limits, not drag down all the others… Shouldn't they be independent?
EDIT: Does this mean that a device connected with wireless G will limit the speed of another device connected with wireless N? Surely thats not right… I've never noticed this when transferring files over my LAN.. I mean understandably between two wireless G devices over a wireless N capable network would be limited to wireless G, but between two wireless N devices over the same network with the wireless G devices connected, surely they shouldn't be limited to G.. Unless I'm reading this wrong or something..
@dzero, IIRC KSB is correct, that's my (layman's) understanding of how it works too.
Dual band is definitely the most important feature. It's much much better for congested networks (if your wireless clients support it).
Speeds on the 2.4ghz band are always going to be rubbish for N, there's only one channel able to be used at a time without overlapping with others - there are heaps more on the 5ghz band. Unless you live on a farm I can't imagine not getting interference from other wireless devices.
@StewBalls
Ahh, looks like KSB was right! It seems that this happens when it is in "Mixed Mode" and it slightly degrades the performance depending on the router, but certainly not down to the speed of the other standards. Some evidence here http://reviews.cnet.com/search-results/belkin-f7d8301-play-n… and here http://reviews.cnet.com/routers/linksys-e4200-maximum-perfor… . Thanks guys for helping me learn something new today!
Simple article for everyone: http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/wireless/wireless-basics/3066…
It doesn't slightly degrade. It degrades fully when the slowest device is actively transmitting. My housemate has a Wireless B laptop so the maximum throughput of the network would be dragged down to 11Mbps whenever she was connected. I bought her a cheap Wireless N card just for my benefit. This was when I had a dual-band Wireless N router. But it did not matter because it would transmit either in 'B/G' or 'N' mode but not both. Using 'N' made no difference as it would be limited by my housemate.
Having the DGND3700 is a big benefit right here. Doesn't matter what she's using, I can transmit 2 APs at the same time. One on the 2.4Ghz network for her and other 'G' devices and one on the 5Ghz for the 'N' devices. Only down point? The 'N' devices you have must support the 5Ghz band. Not all 'N' devices do. For example, my laptop (Asus N61JQ; a spec-sheet beast has only a 2.4Ghz 'N' WiFi Card) needed a replacement 'N' card.
For all you iOS device owners: One thing you can boast about your iOS devices over Android. Support for the 5Ghz network. I'm an Android fan through and through but I'm jealous that my housemate's year-old iPad and iPhone can see the 5Ghz network whereas my brand new Transformer and GSII (2011) can't. I'm still anti-Apple (and their business practices have made me lose any respect I had for them) but I can understand why their products are overpriced. They use quality parts.
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Does nbn uses adsl2+?
I have followed your link and those routers modem are ADSL2+ so I am not sure what you mean by "No".
Will the USB works for printer?
Netgear isn't a brand I'd be buying for a modem. Especially when you can get the Linksys equivelant for cheaper (WAG320N)
http://staticice.com.au/cgi-bin/search.cgi?q=WAG320N&spos=3
Also, it may be a cheap Chinese brand but TP-Link make very fast routers (both in DSL sync speed and in WiFi transmit speed).
+1, I am overseas at the moment where TP-Link is like the main brand here. I have to admit that I was quite impressed by the price and the performance. The web interface is like instant and the router/modem does not get hot at all!
I have a TP-Link wireless card and it did not work well and frequent drop off. No driver update either. Think may have changed but I am avoiding them at the moment.
Check out the end user reviews for the Linksys looks good on paper but its wifi is sh##house..
http://www.cnet.com.au/linksys-by-cisco-wag320n-339306225.ht…
Linksys have mixed performance, I have not tested the WAG320N, so I am unsure of it!
but some of the Linksys models are really bad in performance, check review before buying!!!
Good deal in terms of features.
So if I am getting NBN in my area soon, would i be better off to get an NBN (70mbps or greater) modem or would this do the trick for 90% of requirement (gaming/DL'ing/facebook stalkin etc).
I have just found out the new protocol is called VDSL2.
if you are getting NBN then you are silly to bother with ADSL
So close to buying this unit Alas found too many issues in the forums.. mainly disconnecting issues and the unit running too hot.. will anyone who has this unit comment?
DGND3700 Firmware Version 1.0.0.12
Published on 09/03/2011
New Features & Bug Fixes
:) not sure why they have removed the VDSL support with the latest firmware.
Donkeykong, VDSL is not relevant for Australia. See description from wikipedia below;
Very-high-bitrate DSL (VDSL or VHDSL) is a DSL technology providing faster data transmission (up to 52 Mbit/s downstream and 16 Mbit/s upstream) over a single flat untwisted or twisted pair of copper wires. …
Australia uses ADSL2+ which maxes out at 24Mbit/s. NBN uses fibre hence different standard.
Officeworks price matched this deal so I got it for $160.55
Been after this modem/router for a while, just had to bid my time to get a good deal.
Will be replacing a 6 year old iiNet Belkin modem so hopefully I'll see an improvement in performance!
Same here, Just pricematched with OfficeWorks. I prefer to have somewhere to take it back if anything should go wrong.
To all the guys complaining about NBN etc etc, Remember that this modem has a Gigabit WAN port in addition to the in-built ADSL modem so you can still keep this modem and use it when you get your NBN modem ;)
Thanks "disa1377". I have made the order. Also thanks to "highball" for the OF PM, but I'm not anywhere near one, so I just ordered one via Dell.
Thanks "kingsizedballs" and others that have contributed. They were really useful mate!
You think JB HiFI will match this deal?
I have a JB voucher and I thought I would get this :)
HighBall you think you will be able to post up your receipt?
Thanks
Its always better to call your local JBHifi store and confirm.
this looks great, but wanted to check out the manual before hand (re. details on certain functions), but the manual link on Netgear website is dead!
Here you go: ftp://downloads.netgear.com/files/DGND3700/Documentation/UM/…
Googled DGND3700 manual to get it.
ammm…Takoosh, thanks for the link, but have u try clicking on it?! This is the broken link I was talking about…LOL
its not broken. I tried it and it worked for me.
My apologies, worked for me at the time.
Here's a copy of the manual: http://www.mediafire.com/?zyho7jcl8e4eqp5
nice.. comes with VPN services as well! I'm seriously tempted!
Just a reminder. If you need to utilise the 5Ghz band, you need a compatible wireless adapter that is capable of connecting to the 5Ghz band, most likely a dual band adapter.
Don't let the marketing fool you - 5ghz gives you a weaker signal if passing through walls and is no faster than 2.4ghz. It's just that 2.4ghz gets slowed down when you have neighbors or appliances using 2.4ghz also. And buying this router will not make your internet connection go faster.
True, but one may live in an apartment (so there won’t be too many walls within your living area) with many neighboring 2.4 Ghz wifi networks possibly causing interference.
One more thing. During my research, I believe a new model may be due soon. The router only model (WNDR4000) is already available in the US:
http://www.amazon.com/NETGEAR-Wireless-Gigabit-Router-WNDR40…
So perhaps they are clearing these out for a possible new model with a built in modem. But $169 for DGND3700 is still good.
One question: with this dual band thingy, does that mean it would work well if I need to share the modem with 5 PCs? What I noticed with my old Billion 7300G is that the 802.11g can become pretty slow, but I'm not sure if things would improve with this one…
What exactly about your 802.11g is pretty slow? If you're talking about your internet connection, then no, things wouldn't improve.
Jondave, you see that's part of the problem, I'm trying to find out if the internet bandwidth is reaching it's max or is the wifi (802.11g) is reaching it's max…
Cos sometimes I noticed when my housemates are at home, the internet sometimes would slow to a crawl, but when they are not home, it's much faster. I want to know if they are using up the WIFI bandwidth? Or the internet bandwidth?
Thanks for your help mate
It's much more likely to be the internet bandwidth than the wifi bandwidth. Your internet is probably ~10mbps, and the wifi (802.11g) runs at 54mbps. The way to test it is to copy a file from one computer to another across the wireless but without using the internet. It should go faster than your download speeds.
Your router is not the problem - it's your internet bandwidth. Because if it was your router choking up you wouldn't notice it affect your internet connection speed. I can get into all the technical stuff to explain, but the simple answer is you need a faster internet conneciton.
Thanks for your help sbals and jondave! :)
Guess not much point for me to buy this one then…
Newer model doesn't mean better - at this price range these routers only cater to power users with specific requirements. What exactly does the WNDR4000 bring to the table?
Newer chipsets bring faster transmissions, fewer dropouts, etc etc. There's a lot more to a wireless device than just saying "it runs on x standard". You will get better performance from newer (or more expensive) wireless gear, it's constantly developing.
Newer chipsets, faster transmissions, fewer dropouts? Do you know this based on personal experience with this router or are you just spewing marketing mush? So let me ask again, what exactly does the WNDR4000 bring that makes it better?
Gents, hopefully this link works for everyone.
http://paulquinn.smugmug.com/Other/SmugShots/18542500_HvGXxk
netgear wireless… have had two previous models that overheated in summer and died…..
What type of speeds can we expect from the NAS?
yeah, I was wondering the NAS feautures too
does it have built-in BT download client? :P
This is a good price for this modem/router - normally about $200 elsewhere.
Once setup and working properly these perform pretty well. I have one and use the 2.4GHz for general stuff including streaming and keep the 5GHz free for me to use when gaming etc. Also this has a secondary WAN port so that when you get your NBN connection you can feed it straight into the box and still use your existing setup (to the max wireless speed available to you).
This unit had a stand that make it a vertical mount unit so that it avoids overheating - you could remove the stand but not recommended.
Pros:
Simultaneous dual band, rock solid once configured correctly, all-in-one unit so no need for extra plugs and cables for a modem, dual core processor to handle heavy demands.
Cons:
Vertical mount may not suit all, DNLA implementation is flawed at the moment until a firmware update (it re-indexes the whole index of files every time you add just 1 more file so is constantly churning your external HDD/NAS whatever), IPV6 is not currently available on this unit although netgear have said that it will be in the next update, doesn't always try to re-connect a dropped ADSL connection (can be a pain if you need to remote-access the box - another one for firmware update).
One of my friend suggested This NAS storage for DLNA for my TV.
http://www.ddcomputer.com.au/prod-MS2000-proddes_Netgear_MS2…
I was wondering, spending a bit more can get me the above said modem, as it also support DLNA.
Can anyone comment on its DLNA capabilities?
i so wanted to give this a chance but ive had so many issues with my current Netgear that im just not going there! good deal though :]
Some more comments about this modem here.
http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=1680230&p…
Good buy, but, I hope they iron out the bugs in firmware. Don't you hate it when the customer is the beta tester? Wish these programmers would get it sorted & test this stuff before they release it to the public.
lol. looks like, they are having a shortage in the testing department.
Just bought one, but extremely disappointed in Dell having to take 2 weeks to deliver it??
Never bought anything from Dell before but now i know, and will probably never buy from them again.
Make sure you go to officeworks to Pricematch instead :)
anyone know how the dualband thing works ?
is that like one band for G devices and the other for N devices ?