- Extreme Gen4 storage performance: A PCIe Gen4 x4 controller delivers up to 4,950MB/s sequential read and 4,250MB/s sequential Write speeds, for blazing fast read, write, and Response times.
- High-speed Gen4 PCIe x4 NVMe M.2 interface: using PCIe Gen4 technology for maximum Bandwidth, the MP600 delivers incredible storage performance.
- High-density 3D TLC NAND: provides the ideal mix of performance, Endurance, and value to keep your drive Performing at its best for years.
- M.2 2280 form factor: fits directly into your motherboard
Corsair Force MP600 1TB NVMe PCIe X4 Gen4 SSD $261.63 Delivered @ Amazon AU
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I'd say these days the software is the bottleneck, crazy speeds can imagine what speeds the consoles at the end of 2020 will be featuring
You're expecting next gen consoles to have these ssds? Highly doubtful gen4.
They'll most likely be nvme gen3
There is a good chance both XB2 and PS5 will have a custom PCIe 4.0 SSD. The reasons are: (1) all it takes is a newer SSD controller chip (the NAND chips have not improved, the "sequential" speed gain comes from controller doing multi channel reads/writes on SLC cache). (2) the CPU will surely support PCIe 4.0 so why not. (3) Great marketing.
Source:
https://respawnfirst.com/ps5-custom-pcie-4-0-based-ssd/Realistically, you won't gain much from a PCIe 4.0 SSD (compared to SATA3 or PCIe 2.0 SSD) for gaming. However, being able to state a "better" SSD than most PC SSDs is a great selling point. When you buy NAND chips in bulk from Samsung, it is not unreasonable to ask Samsung to provide a PCIe 4.0 capable controller at a bargain price. PCIe 4.0 SSD does have the potential to be utilised to swap/resume games much faster (for consoles).
My motherboard takes 10 seconds to bios / post.
Looked through BIOS settings to enable whatever UEFI fast boot modes it has?
Disable CSM/Legacy boot modes
Set EFI to Windows 8/Windows 10 mode
Set fast boot to enabledDoes that work on MSI B450 boards?
@x4m2b: i have MSI b450 Mortar Max, I timed it last night, I spend 17 seconds getting to post. I can't find any fast boot settings.
I have CSM turned off, straight UEFI in settings i can find. I hard a lot of mechanical sata drives though.@jonathonsunshine: Yea I can't find any fast boot option either, coming from Intel platform I find AMD booting kinda slow.
My old Ivy Bridge desktop with no SSD booted quicker than this AMD platform with an SSD.
Windows OS boot time doesn't improve much between SATA3 SSD and NVMe SSD (even Samsung 970 Pro). That is because for Windows bootup, it is the random read which matters more. For gaming, NVMe SSDs are a waste. You might think NVMe sequential speed is fast, but it is way too slow compared to video card VRAM.
Random read/write for SSDs have not improved much. Also, the great for marketing sequential read/write speed is the SLC cache portion only. TLC true NAND speed simply cannot saturate PCIe gen 2. Sure, seeing 3000MB/s for large file copying is fun, but do you have another PCIe X4 Gen4 SSD to read the data from? Or, are you going to setup a RAM drive to test it? Duplicating files onto the SSD itself isn't very useful.
This is a great and totally honest post that tells some truths that some people don't want to acknowledge.
I have both an intel 545s SATA SSD and a Samsung 950Pro NVME SSD.
Whilst their benchmark results are miles apart the difference between them to the overall end user experience is negligible.I prefer NVME as a form factor (on the motherboard, no cables) and also to bypass motherboard based drive interfaces, but aside from that NVME SATA and plug in SATA SSDs are still a massive improvement over a mechanical disk.
I like it but I'm a bottom feeder… when the tech is established, tested and actually affordable :) That being said, for a 1TB from a decent manufacturer with those sorts of speeds. Pretty damn good!
should i buy now or wait for the 12% Cashback on Boxing Day?
I don't want to risk missing the limited time sale for the 12% Shopback.. Might as well get one now
Is 12 percent shopback speculation or confirmed?
Confirmed
Hmm just bought a Silicon Power A80 1Tb for $153 :/
I might have jumped on this instead at that price and 12% cash back!!
Where did you get the SP P34A80 for $153? That's amazing price!
I've been following it for ages from amazon and its always hovering around $191
https://www.amazon.com.au/Silicon-Power-Gen3x4-000MB-SU001TB…
One of the third party sellers had it for $153 so I decided to take the punt. Clearly a scam tho.
But amazon gave me $34 gift card as compensation to the scam in addition to refunding me so I could rebuy it for $153 when it was $187.
Thanks, I'll wait for one of the scams to come up and hope to get a credit ahaha
So the third party seller never sent it? I have been waiting for this M2 SSD to drop below $180 for a while too.
@sschen: The seller gave me a tracking number and marked it as shipped, but its clearly some fake tracking number as Auspost sat on it for 3 weeks then it ended up in Perth (I'm in melb).
Now the seller doesnt exist…. haha.
I contacted Amazon chat saying "have i been scammed?" and they said "we are refunding you" and tried to convince me to buy it at $187 from AmazonAU this time not a 3rd party and they would comp me free express shipping. But i said nah its too expensive at $187 so they said here have a voucher so you can re-buy it for $153 :)
Excellent customer service!
perfect heater
my 970 EVO kept me warm in winter, for around 3xxxMB/s speed. just imagine what 4,950MB/s could do
Now to cut a hole out of the laptop case to fit this!
You can just remove the heat sink and replace it with a low profile one if it doesnt fit
1800 TBW, it's a workhorse
How does that compare with other SSD such as Samsung?
600 TBW for 1TB 970 Evo Plus
My Samsung 950 Pro 256GB now really feels inadequate, but then again, I don't have a need to upgrade as yet…
This seems like a really great price for this class of SSD with a phison controller. An I missing something?
TLC NAND ?
How strong is the Force on these?
Not sure how strong it is, but may the Force be with you.
no force at all.
der8auer review here:
Force is very strong with this one….
Faster, not stronger, the dark side is
1800TBW, that's 3 times better than Samsung 970 EVO
Is that massive heat spreader really required? Most brands don't even have one.
Yep when driven at pcie 4 speeds a lot of reviews show thermal throttling and speed drop offs without one.
I'm guessing with said massive heat spreader, this wouldn't fit in a Dell XPS 13?
Looking to upgrade my 256GB SSD, but don't really know a whole lot about NVMe drives..XPS13 M.2 SSD has thermalpad making contact with cover plate. However i dont think it is adequate for this and it would thermal throttle.
@Ragnarok1983: I see, thanks! Don't suppose you'd have any recommendations of suitable SSDs to use instead?
@[Deactivated]: May be the Samsung 970 when its on sale again? But definitely not this, Intel doesnt have Gen 4 PCI-E to start with.
Does your laptop even have pcie 4.0?
But yeah it's unlikely to fit with the heat spreader on. But you could probably take the heat spreader off and use a more lower profile heat spreader in your laptop
For NVMe SSDs, it is good to have the heat sink on the controller.
Most NVMe SSDs, the label itself is a heat spreader. The controller for NVMe heats up because it is responsible for the multi channel read/write. It's good to keep the controller cool. The NAND chips are actually better slightly warm.
You’ll need an new AMD chip and x570 motherboard to take advantage of those speeds.
Not only that, you need anther device that can pump out 4,950MB/s to really benefit from that. That's the thing with NVMe SSDs, you need something that can generate data at that rate to benefit from the sequential read/write improvement.
if you compare even with a regular, first generation SSD, it won't make much difference starting windows
sorry to kind of went off topic, but if I want extreme reliability (meaning SSD that is going to be almost as durable as a HDD) instead of extreme speed, what would be a good recommendation?
There is no such thing. For important files, you need to make backup(s), preferably multiple backups on different medium (HDD, SSD, Flash Drive) and if you have to use the same medium, use different brand and model of HDDs or SSDs.
- Some models of SSDs/HDDs might have on average lower failure rate, but it doesn't mean your ones will behave in the norm.
- (if you are after extreme reliability) you may have to avoid the latest gen products - because you don't have sufficient data for their overall quality / reliability yet, but is that really a good thing?
- Avoid choosing based on brand alone. I have had Samsung SSDs failed.
- Avoid first gen of new product technology. Samsung's first gen planar TLC, first gen NVMe SSDs both had much higher failure rate. Their first gen planar TLC SSDs have slow read issue. Their second gen or third gen products are much better.
Samsung, Intel, Crucial (Micron), and other major brand SSDs are generally okay. Samsung SSD warranty service is pretty good. Some dodgy el cheapo SSDs use rejected / refurbished NAND chips.
Shame the 2TB price is still so high. Going to have to keep looking.
out of stock
SO I guess Windows would boot in three seconds with one of these although the CPU may become the bottleneck! \o/