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$599 Apple iPhone 7 128GB - Silver
$599 Apple iPhone 7 128GB - Black
$499 Apple iPhone 7 32GB - Black
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How frustrating
iPhone 8 should be at this price.
I agree with you except the price. I guess you forgot inferior camera, thick bezel screen and bad signal performance due to intel band chip on iPhone 8.
The camera on the 8 is still excellent. The screen although small with a fairly ugly bezel is incredibly bright and colour accurate. Intel does suck though and there's no way to spin that.
@nikoris: Look up the benchmarks. The single core performance of the Snapdragon 855 is worse than the A11 from an iPhone 8. The screen on an iPhone 8 is 625 nits, much better than the brand new Pixel 4 at 441nits.
The iPhone 8 still competes with current android flagships on some of the specs that actually matter when it comes to the usability of the phone. That’s why I don’t have a massive issue with the pricing.
@tp0: I know I will get downvoted but
1) Camera is bad for modern standards (both rear and front)
2) Only 2gb ram (even if it’s ios, still few)
3) Bad battery life
4) No waterproof
5) No amoled
6) Only 720p-ish screen
7) No wide angle-zoom lens
8) No inscreen fingerprint sensor
9) No headphone jackThat all comes from an iphone 11 owner. Iphone 8 is obsolete, should be priced way lower.
@nikoris: Nah you won’t get downvoted. You listed only negative things, things that are wrong and included useless features that no average user cares about. They love that stuff around here.
@tp0: I downloaded the new geekbench on my ipad around a month ago. My ancient ipad scores significantly higher than a cheaper newer Android device…. However in real world usage, the older ipad with higher benchmarks score is slower. Then I took a look into geekbench and the new iPhones are beating desktop chips…. Take their benchmarks with a grain of salt now. I've always had the view Apple have been around a generation ahead on performance of their SoCs. But at the same token for most peoples usage nowadays, even mid range chips can suffice at loading up your social media apps in a second.
Maybe you were thinking of iPhones starting from iPhone X. iPhone 8/8plus have Qualcomm modem, and Apple switched to using Intel modem in some iPhone X and above. Anyway the reason old release of iPhones still hold their price because it holds in resale value, unlike similarly priced Samsung phones.
@Marx: They started using Intel modems in some variants well before they went all in on the newer models. The Australian iPhone 7 uses an Intel modem.
There are iPhone 8 with Intel modems as well however we got the US CDMA model on launch for some reason. If you buy one now I think they’re the Global Intel modem ones.
Basically the iPhone 6s was the last completely Qualcomm iPhone.
Having owned both an iPhone 7 and iPhone 8, the iPhone 8 is definitely worth $779 if not more. It’s an amazing device and so much better than the 7. I bet you everyone negging you have never actually used an iPhone 8 as a daily driver. Android fanboy’s gonna android fanboy lmaoooo
iOS is clunky garbage and it's getting worse every update.
@[Deactivated]: To be fair iOS 12 is pretty good for devices, but yes iOS 11 and iOS 10 can be frustrating for older devices. That said, Google is just as bad for Nexus devices.
Nexus 5, 4, 7, 7 (2013), 9 ALL ended up with very clunky final update and Google don't really give a damn. Snapdragon 835 doesn't run as well in Android Oreo.
The reality is both camps are equally bad and I would say right now Android is worse (part of that is iOS 12 and another part is for recent CPUs, A series CPUs are faster). However, Apple DOES have a nasty trick up its sleeve. It has the ability to remote de-activate devices running on iOS releases which it deemed too old and force you to upgrade. Apple just did that on my old iPad Air 2 last weekend, forcing an upgrade to iOS 13.
@netsurfer: The reality is you can get Android One, you can get various stripped back launchers for Android as well. It is (can be) an extremely simple UI, which is what iOS used to be.
I have an iPhone 11 but you talking bs mate
Lol ozbargain is the only place you'd get downvoted for stating facts about Apple.
Also waiting for iPhone 8 deals.
Iphone 6 got scraped up from ios 13, I suppose that the iphone 7 will see up to ios 15 so in about 2 years. Not bad considering that androids usually have 2 years updates, if not less. For most people who have android phones (myself included), we will have to go with the famous "For the price, android phones have better specs!"
Not bad considering that androids usually have 2 years updates
Proper comparison is the Google phones. Pixel from 2016, same vintage as the iPhone 7, runs Android 10 and still supported. Better display and camera too.
Samsung Galaxy, not so good on updates.
But I have to say that all those 2016 flagship phones still perform well. Unless your battery needs replacing.Another proper comparison. The one year older Nexus 5X and 6P are stuck back on Android 8.1. Same year iPhone 6s still supported.
Yes, the 6S / SE still works well with only 2GB RAM as well.
Pixel != Nexus.
The Nexus devices were never officially intended as consumer devices. Unfortunately they were often marketed as such, especially the 5X and 6P (and indeed from the Nexus 6 onwards).
The Pixel is the first time Google really got serious about it (hardware+software experience), and it shows.
@Zorlin: The original Nexus One was marketed as a developer device but the later Nexus (Samsung Galaxy Nexus & onwards) were definitely full-on consumer devices.
It was a way for consumers to buy the stock Android experience without OEM skins which were very common at the time and added a lot of cool features at the expense of a slow device since they didn't really have enough RAM for what the OEMs were trying to cram into them.
https://web.archive.org/web/20160201105012/http://www.google…
Straight from Google itself, it's "The ultimate Android experience". Not sure why you would say the Pixel was their first hardware+software experience as I had the Nexus 5 and despite its modest specs for the time it had a very good performance since they optimized the software so well for it. Only downside with the Nexus 5 / og Pixel are their horrible battery life that wouldn't even last you a day.
Not true.
I'm running a Samsung Galaxy S8 which I purchased in May 2017. It is currently up to date with the September 2019 patches installed.
According to this, the flagship of 2016 (Galaxy S7), is still supported too:
https://9to5google.com/2019/10/21/galaxy-s7-october-patch/I will agree that Apple is better at supporting their devices longer though.
Security patches is different to major Android OS update tho. S8 won't be getting Android 10 OS.
I would argue that comparing OS updates, iOS to Android isn't a like for like comparison anyhow. In the Android world major updates are less important, for example Google still offer browser updates to Android kitkat users. Android versions still receive solid support for years after a newer major version supercedes the previous one. Core apps like the browser and lots of major apps lose support faster in the iOS world once a newer version is released. Also in iOS you need a major OS update to just get updates for lot of the core apps like the browser. Then you have the difference between OEMs offering unique features in older versions of Android, making the new major version of Android more of a nicety rather than a need, like the example with S8 the Android 9 upgrade already included features like dark mode that Android 10 just got in vanilla. Actually from what I've seen there's little to get excited about with Major Android updates.
An older Android device would probably be better running on older firmware provided it gets regular security updates. The problem for newer versions they require more resources thus making older hardware not run as well as it did on previous versions. This is the case for my iPad it performs worse on current iOS than the version it originally shipped with.
here we go again. Based on the price of the phone and upvote, this should be banned on ozbargain on principle. We can't call ourselves ozbargainer if we are willing to pay $500 for 3.5 years old phone.
for the isheep $1 below rrp is front page ozbargin material
But the new ones are $2000 so this is good value if you compare that way.
And other things like a car cost even more than that.
If you compare to buying a 3 bedroom house the $2000 is actually already very cheap.
And you can't even send an SMS from a house.
So this is a great deal.Maybe not your house.
Tell me where I can get it cheaper please. If not this is still a deal for this product.
What. A. JOKE.
Why the heck this is a front page bargain? Such a sore to my eyes seeing a 3.5 year old phone still selling at this outrageous price.
But two years ago you thought the iPhone 8 Plus was an absolute bargain for over $1300? Ignore the post and move on, no need to be a drama queen.
lol, lawyered
+1
Hi, just waiting for your reply to getting absolutely wrecked. Cheers.
lmao
For a 3.5 years old phone…and bargain…really? don't get me wrong, I got IPAD pro 2017 version from previous OW deal. but this, really? I have used IP7, IP8, IP X, MATE20 PRO, P30 PRO, one plus 7/7T. Just my 2 cents here:
from 2017 to 2019/2020, so much tech got improved/evolved. one can argue the cpu, but it is like Intel/AMD CPU power, is way overpowered for what we use. However, the CPU improves battery efficiency, this is big, providing all the rest and software the same.
Cameras and batteries are totally different. We always want better and more, especially night shoot, zooming, wide-angle, res, etc.. We just want keep these moments as much clearer/nicer/easier as we can, that's why we use more 360 cameras now.
Wouldn't we want more beautiful screen, phone design? I still remembered 2017 "New Apple Iphone rumors" saying full screen full glass phone, now in 2019 you have several phones like that to choose from.
Wouldn't we want more up-to-date phone so the new tech upcoming is supported and make our life easier?
Yes, there will be some just need basic phone and don't need anything more than that. it is ok, as our society is always have people like the latest/newest/best of best, as well as some go opposite way. No argument here, but remember, the average people needs are there and keep going up, that's why we have such advanced tech. The individual cases do not represent the rest nor average.
for this iphone 7, my first neg goes. It is not worth the money for average people, it is out-dated in almost every aspects. It might be good for kids phone though, but for $500…really?
Please let me know where I can get newer iPhone for less. Thanks.
LOL why all the hate? To pickup a secondhand iphone 7 you're looking at $300+.. which probably needs the battery replaced and has been dropped a million times…. Sure the price is slightly inflated but as much as people want to hate, this is a powerful, well built phone (I'm also an android user).
And to respond to everyone saying the hardware is old and outdated, the iPhone 7s CPU is faster than what's found in the Galaxy S9 which still retails for $1000+
Benchmarks HereAlso taking into account the recent release of iOS 13 which brings dark mode and extended battery life, I don't believe this is as bad a deal as most are making out.
Generally, A10 is considered a dated CPU though it is still perfectly usable today. However, it definitely belongs to only get it at a bargain price category. It was manufactured using 16nm and lacks AI or what Apple refers to as Bionic.
As for that article, it is a shrewd comparison in which it cherry picked benchmarks. Both benchmarks are single core heavy. If you looked at Geekbench 4 multi core results, A10 cannot be Snapdragon 835 (S8). Yes, the single core deficiency on Android CPUs is there for years (and still there). LG V30+ is probably the closest equivalent (128GB currently on special for $399) - it also lacks AI/Bionic and it beats A10 in multi core only. It has a 1440p display which technically supports HDR, but does struggle to decode HDR videos at 1080p. V30+ does have wide and ultra wide lenses (but the CPU isn't powerful enough to do 4K@60fps).
The biggest issue for most people is the A11 performance jump is really significant in multi core. Basically, Apple simply showed Android CPU makers Apple held back on multi cored previously. When Apple stopped that, it really embarrassed Android CPUs.
Bottom line is that if you opted for A10 or SD835 based phones, you are essentially caving in due to a bit of saving and getting phone that in terms of value for money isn't "bargain" in today's standard.
Unless you are really really happy with the price, you should consider at least an iPhone 8 (because Apple did hold back iPhone 7's multi core performance and as time goes on, you will feel it, especially on complex tasks). Even getting iPhone 8 carries a bit of risk. If iPhone SE2 indeed does get released early next year, it will potentially be quite formidable (A13 CPU rumored - I doubt it because it is too good to be true).
Finding iPhone 7 very sluggish with Apple CarPlay
I’m not (iOS13)
That’s weird then. Maybe it is my phone. I have noticed it gets quite hot lately. I have latest version of iOS installed
I am finding iOS 13 does run slower on older devices compared to iOS 12. Also, it is buggy at the moment even with 13.1.3.
Also, Apple did a nasty remote deactivate device on my oldest iOS device (eligible for iOS 13 upgrade) running iOS 9 on the weekend, forcing an iOS 13 upgrade. No prior warning, just zap. Had to put the device in recovery mode and use iTunes to upgrade. Few apps won't work anymore. Device now a bit laggy at times. Sigh… Apple….
So Apple can and do force iOS upgrades. I have 3 devices forced to upgrade that way throughout the years so far.
Have you tried a newer phone on the same car though? Otherwise your comment doesn't mean much…
I find it slow on Xs Max in my VW, but faster on an Astra hire car.
Seems to be car graphics performance in my testing.Did not even consider that to be honest. Mine is through a Kenwood head unit. Will try another phone and see how it goes
Came for the comments. Wasn't disappointed.
$399 might be an OK Deal
$299 would be definitely a deal (remember the AusPost deal for iPhone SE 18 months ago
https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/365032
since the latest ios13 update finding alot apps constantly crashing (i7 128gb), & having to restart phone few times a day lately, was never having these issues before the update, highly recommend keep away at these prices, buy one used for $300s thats all its worth, at $600s you can buy an iphone x used
Also battery drains very fast after the update
Have you wiped the phone and reloaded?
Computers are still computers, I wouldn't not recommended the phone for software update bugs news users wouldn't likely experience.That said, there are still far better iPhone and non iPhone deals to be had and id still recommend a higher spec iPhone, even if you have to scrape together more money…
reset will probably help but really cant be bothered, ill likely get rid of it soon & buy a used xs
I love my SE, and look forward to the SE2 that's supposed to arrive in 2020, I might just be tempted to buy one IF the price is sensible?!.
If not, I will keep running the old SE, as for the cheap IPhone 7, it would seem dated especially at the offered prices.
Most rumours swirlin' about are pointing to the SE2 to have an iPhone 8 chassis, mate. Disappointing for me - I got the iPhone SE for the size! Ahh well.
I think the deal is would you rather spend $600 on this, or $1400 on an iphone 11?
I’d rather buy a xs 256gb used, in excellent condition still under warranty for $800-$900
free at Optus on the cheapest contract.
Compared to refurbished thru amazon ??
makes popcorn and sits down to read
I've since gotten over all this. There's no convincing anyone. At the end of the day it doesn't even matter. They are both needed so innovation continues.Is this some kind of a joke.
This is a 3 year old phone. Why would you spend $500-600 on this garbage. Even a recent $300 android phone would beat this in every aspect.I know this may blow your mind but some people just want to get into iOS for the security and quality apps and experiences afforded by Apple products. You can use the search function on this website to locate some deals on tissues. MOD: Name calling removed.
For all those people who are negging this deal, to be fair please remember that the Aussie dollar has dropped tremendously 3.5 years ago as well.
$399 for the iP7 32GB and ide pull the trigger. $499 is just a bit too much.
My partner smashed the screen on her iphone .. 5c? Or whatever it was. Still working but not ideal. Considering this purely because it's the cheapest icrap I can find. Androids with a good camera would be ideal but are physically too big for her (an annoying trend I also hate).
Your best bet if you want a small iPhone would be the SE model.
Here’s a comparison of the 3 iPhones sizewise.
https://www.phonearena.com/phones/size/Apple-iPhone-5,Apple-…The pixel 3a is probably the best camera on a phone for the money but is still larger than the iPhone 7.
does it have to be iphone? shes better off signing up to the google pixel 4 deal ends tomorrow, & if you read comments (not guaranteed) but afterwards many are able to move the contract via telstra online chat to month to month after signing up, read the comments for more info
Pixel 4 is physically too big. The options for (preferably, a good camera) + small phone are a struggle. You'd think someone would fill that gap in the market!
fair enough just a suggestion
Sony offers a couple of smaller phones, slightly larger than the old iPhone 5 but use ~5 inch screens.
There’s the Xperia XA2
More of a lower midtier device.Then there’s the XZ2 compact with flagship level specs.
Size comparison:
https://www.phonearena.com/phones/size/Apple-iPhone-SE,Sony-…
iPhone 7 32gb is $498 at Big W (minus 5% if paying by discounted wish egift cards)
I still roll with the Iphone 7, going strong after 3 years, runs like new with a replacement battery, latest version of iOS, all apps still work. 32gb storage isn't a real issue with iCloud these days.
The only reason I keep it is because the 7/8 is the last iPhone that will comfortably fit in the top pockets of my work shirt. Would I pay $499 for a new one, probably not. An iPhone 8 64gig for $400 would be worth considering.
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