Lenovo Yoga C940 13.9" UHD Touchscreen Intel i7-10510U 16GB 512GB SSD - $2381.55 Delivered (HK) @ F Digital Catch

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habibby on 21/10/2019 - 10:10 catch.com.au (424 clicks)
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Grey stock Lenovo Yoga C940 from Catch.com.au sold and delivered by F Digital. Much cheaper than the prices listed for similarly specced models at Lenovo Australia: https://www.lenovo.com/au/en/laptops/yoga/yoga-c-series/Leno….

A difference I have noticed is the model of the CPU, Catch.com.au quote the Intel i7-10510U while Lenovo Australia quote: 10th Gen Intel Core i7-1065G7 (4C / 8T, 1.3 / 3.9GHz, 8MB) for their similarly specced model, albeit priced at $3199. I'm not too savvy with the nuances of CPUs, but I expect this to be a quirk of international vs local stock. Maybe someone in the comments can explain the differences between the two models.

Specs of $3199 - highest tier model from Lenovo Australia (note: different CPU):

Processor
10th Gen Intel Core i7-1065G7 (4C / 8T, 1.3 / 3.9GHz, 8MB) i7-10510u on model from Catch.com.au

Operating System
Windows 10 Pro 64

Display Type
14" HDR400 UHD (3840x2160) IPS 500nits Glossy, 10-point Multi-touch

Memory
16GB Soldered LPDDR4X-3733

Hard Drive
512GB SSD M.2 2280 PCIe NVMe

Warranty
1 Year Depot

AC Adapter
65W USB-C

Graphics
Integrated Intel Iris Plus Graphics Intel UHD Graphics 620 on the model from Catch.com.au

Battery
Integrated 60Wh

Pen
Lenovo Active Pen

Fingerprint Reader
Fingerprint Reader

Keyboard
Backlit

Pointing Device
ClickPad + Active Pen

Wireless
11ax, 2x2 + BT5.0

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  jv on 21/10/2019 - 10:12

  Grey stock Lenovo Yoga C940

  It only comes in that colour.

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  N1NJ4W4RR10R on 21/10/2019 - 10:12

  I really underestimated how terrible these names were.

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  lubos on 21/10/2019 - 10:25

  The screen must be gorgeous but I never had a laptop with glossy screen so that's kind of a risk of buying one (especially at this price).

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    Heero on 22/10/2019 - 23:03

    Why would you want a matte touchscreen?

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  sghetti on 21/10/2019 - 10:42

  +3

  So the CPU differences comes down to architecture and missing a better iGPU.

  The 1065G7 is an Ice Lake processor on their new 10nm form factor.

  The 10510u is a Comet Lake processor which is just an improved 14nm CPU.

  The main differences in general: The 1065G7 should have a much better iGPU, the 14nm iGPU is getting quite long in the tooth, so this one would provide better gaming. As a single example, the 1065G7 supports up to 4k at 120hz, whereas the 10510u supports 4k 60hz.

  This listing should be changed as the iGPU spec is wrong I believe, it will be the standard UHD Intel Graphics, not the Iris Plus. That's only for the 1065G7.

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    habibby on 21/10/2019 - 10:49

    Thanks, I've made an update to the spec list. So we should expect a CPU performance increase as well going from 10510u to 1065G7?

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      sghetti on 21/10/2019 - 10:51

      Yes CPU will operate better, higher base close and turbo clock speeds on the 10510u. But the iGPU on the 1065G7 is MUCH better. If you wanted to do VERY light gaming, the 1065G7 would give you much better performance.

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    ruprectaus on 21/10/2019 - 12:45

    The 10510u is a Comet Lake processor which is just an improved 14nm CPU

    This also caught me out on the new Dell Inspiron 13 7200 "Black Edition" which I considered and it also has LPDDR3 but then it's cheaper, cheaper for a reason of course.

    https://www.dell.com/en-au/work/shop/2-in-1-laptops-tablet-p…

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      sghetti on 21/10/2019 - 13:20

      The main stand-out in that range is the 10710u, which is a 6c/12t CPU. Certainly improved the multi-core processing. It is slightly slower than the previous 8565u in single core as well as multi-core clock speeds. But add the extra 2 cores and 4 threads into the mix and it's multi-core overall computing is much better.

      Recently got the MSI Prestige 15 which has the 10710u and 1650 Max Q GPU, it's awesome!

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  summit on 21/10/2019 - 10:51

  The price seems good. I saw this too and decided against it for the time being….The listing says it comes from overseas and I'm not sure how warranty would work. There's also a listing on eBay from Futuregear at a similar price coming from NZ.

  Also the other worry for me is the "integrated" battery. I chatted to a Lenovo rep who confirmed this means it is not user replaceable and may cost $200-250 to replace (but wasn't certain on price). In my opinion i don't like the idea of having to spend $2000-3000 on a product for it to last a couple of years and then have to send it in and spend hundreds more for a battery replacement, thus encouraging you to buy a new laptop to save the effort. Which is why I won't touch a Surface laptop as nice as they are. Planned obsolescence.

  Maybe you can do it yourself but there's not enough info around yet, but the C930 specifications does not say integrated battery.

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    sghetti on 21/10/2019 - 10:57

    +1

    Unfortunately in the case with most "ultrabook" type laptops, they don't have the size and form to allow for a removable housed battery. It's in a very small exposed package inside the chassis, this is to reduce the size of the total laptop.

    In many cases with these types of ultrabooks, they're also sealed shut and very hard to open without causing damage. I've only seen a handful in smaller form factors with chassis that can be opened easily.

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      summit on 21/10/2019 - 11:13

      +1

      Yeah I understand we sacrifice the ability to change things with our laptops when they make them smaller and lighter, which we also like. But plenty of them we can still open them up, change a battery or an SSD with a little bit of knowledge. Plenty of tutorial videos online too. Microsoft glue theirs in so you can't replace it which I don't agree with. So until I know more about this C940 I might avoid.

      So I guess my opinion is, if I can replace the battery to get another 2 or 3 years out if it then I'm happy. Even if its a bit harder to do. If its impossible to do, then I'll give my money to someone else.

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        magic8ballgag on 21/10/2019 - 12:02

        You need to get with the times of you think laptop batteries still require replacement after years of use. Technology has improved which means smarter and more efficient components.

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          sghetti on 21/10/2019 - 12:09

          @magic8ballgag: They still do degrade. However, software integrating with batteries has also improved. As an example, MSI's Dragon Centre or Creator Centre has settings (almost appears like at a hardware level) that limit how much charge the battery gets.

          Best for portability is charging to 100%
          Better for battery is charge up to 70/80%
          Best for battery is charge up to 50%

          Even Apple has implemented software changes on iPhones to limit the amount of time that the battery remains at full charge, but learning your usage pattern and ensuring the battery is only charged to 100% just before you take it off charge (with morning alarm etc.)

          Using these will help keep batteries performing at peak for longer. But you'll still notice degredation after 2-3 years, it's inevitable.

          The 'optimum' usage appears to be keeping your device around 50% capacity.

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            magic8ballgag on 21/10/2019 - 13:19

            @sghetti: Of course, I never said they didn't, although with modern devices (especially in the mid-high range such as the Yoga), it shouldn't be a concern.

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              sghetti on 21/10/2019 - 13:21

              +1

              @magic8ballgag: By the time the battery is at the point of replacement, the device is probably so outdated, even paying for an easily replaceable battery is probably not viable (depending on use case).