Just saw this deal in the current catalogue for the Olympus E-M10 Mark II,
cheapest I have seen this camera.
Great camera for the price, image stabilisation is excellent, it has saved my shots on more than one occasion where I have not had a tripod.
cant wait!!! its only been FOUR years since the last release.
Just announced, 4K video, 50MP high res mode.
Teds trying to sell it for 2k ouch. That's like em1 mk 2 territory.
@lawyerz: $1899 at Digital Camera Warehouse. Think I might wait a while for it to dip <$1500 before taking the plunge. Anything over that price is E-M1 territory. Even the Pana G9 was going for close to $1200 earlier in the year, though the size and weight of that thing made it unappealing to me
@chartparker: So, I’ve had a look at it. I’m really disappointed with the incremental upgrade rather than a leap forward.
It’s crazy expensive, nearly the same as the em1mk2 price.
The only thing I thought was good was the improvement to AF.
The evf downgrade same reso and lower mag. The same back screen, No improvement to screen to body ratio. Same poor touch screen that doesn’t even support multi touch. Full plastic body and no improvement to battery life. In body charging but micro USB and not type c and can’t power the camera during operations.
I actually bought the g9 earlier this year, it really is the “perfect” but I had to let it go because it was just too darn big and heavy and looked hilariously oversized with my tiny primes.
I’m so disappointed, with the lack of upgrades and the price they’re asking for.
@lawyerz: Hit the nail on the head. Unfortunately I have to agree with you on all points. Question is what I do now? Hopefully Panasonic release something compelling… But their offerings always have some sort of deal breaker for me. Damn lazy Olympus… It wouldn't have taken a lot to make the mkiii way more appealing
@chartparker: What are you shooting with now? I recently repurchased a second hand em5-ii for $500 on gumtree.
Wait for cyber Monday or black friday deals… But I'm not hopeful.
The em1mk2 was significantly smaller than the g9, but it's also 3 years old.
@lawyerz: E-m10 mk ii :P It's a good little camera but feeling the limitations. Yeah I've been watching em1ii prices but they've never really dropped enough to justify it… Especially considering how old it is. Also been looking at em5ii like you, but that's even older again, so I figured I'd just save my pennies for the eventual mkiii.
I don't understand… Olympus were on a great track with em10ii, then penF then em10iii, then em1ii. Then nothing for 3 years, and they come out with the em1x and em5iii which offer nothing seriously compelling for the price they're asking, urgh!
@chartparker: Yeah. I feel like they've somehow dropped a ball here. I really like their cameras and I can first hand say there is no competition for their in body stabilisation, not even g9 could come close to compete with the 4 year old em5-2.
I don't know, there's no perfect in the camera world haha. Somehow, I feel that's because they need to cripple the mid tier cameras to give their flagship cameras a chance.
What's your limitations you're most frustrated with the em10mk2? Mine was the poor low light AF performance at in em5mk2 so this upgrade still does something for me.
@lawyerz: Yeah mainly poor low light and also low resolution. 20mp is a good sweet spot for me cos I do mainly landscape and long exposures. High res mode is a bonus, so the 5mkiii actually ticks a lot of boxes for me… But I still wish it had some new killer features, or at least a more compelling price point
@chartparker: Unfortunately poorer low light performance is unavoidable, at least in relative terms to full frame. The stabilisation helps but only if you're taking stationery objects.
Unfortunately, not many options without going more expensive or larger in physical size.
@lawyerz: Yeah I know the compromises well. I sold my 6d (which was amazing in low light) because the Olympus could do 80% the job in a body half the size and weight.
I actually think my sensor is actually getting worse over time for low light, so maybe it's slowly doing.
Maybe I should just stop whinging and buy it and stop thinking about it lol
@chartparker: Haha! You're well versed then. I found that digidirect is the cheapest. $1899, +$50 MasterCard gift card + some 64gb SanDisk extreme pro card you could sell.
I'm considering it now as well. Despite my disappointment.
@lawyerz: Yeah I found the Digidirect deal too lol. End of the day every camera has compromises. The biggest compromise for me
here really just the price, so maybe I'll just wait for a sale
@chartparker: Yeah price. I'm still not convinced it's worth the asking price. Pondering pondering. It might haunt me until I make a final decision.
@lawyerz: I mean… It's basically just a smaller and lighter em1ii, so by that logic of actually pretty good value, but I think I'll still wait until it's sub $1500
@lawyerz: What about the g95? it is essentially/mostly the g9 in a smaller body and $1299 at Teds.. Personally I prefer the size of the g9 (large hands) but I think the g95 is a better buy at the moment than the em5mkiii, a little bigger maybe? but not near g9 size…
That said I would like a em5mkiii as my smaller camera, I use the gx9 for this now but hate the viewfinder (colour tearing when look around), but something I will gladly wait for, I got the G9 at $1195 after rebate, I won't pay more for the em5mkiii (preferably less which means I may have to wait a fair while).
@joele: Yeah the g95 was another contender. There were a couple of things that I wasn't keen on about it though but I can't remember what they were. It may actually be a good option for my wife if my e-m10 ever dies
@joele: You don't realise how big the g95 still is, until you put it next to the em5.
G9 was amazing value, and a great camera but it was too large and heavy for my shooting preferences.
@lawyerz: Yeah the Panasonic bodies are relatively big for the sensor size. Whole reason I went to MFT was the small and light bodies and lenses from Olympus. The Panasonic bodies are so close in size and weight to Fuji offerings that I'd be tempted to just jump systems by that point for the larger sensor
I haven't managed to check. But 20mp sensor?
That's what they are saying.
If you want the bare essential for $359.10, here's an alternative which I cannot post because "eBay deals can only be posted if the seller is a top-rated seller" (1060 feedbacks @ 99.1% is not top-rated?):
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Olympus-OM-D-E-M10-Mark-II-Mirro…
note that one is "ex-demo" - still 1yr warranty but i'd double check if its a seller warranty over an olympus warranty..
Called Olympus about this, they only give 6 months warranty.
Also it's body only so by the time you add the lens it's about the same
It depends on your usage, if you want to choose your own lens. Some people might want a bare body so that they can go straight to the M.Zuiko 14-42mm (currently under $200 at HN) or even the m.Zuiko Pro, or a fast 15/17mm prime lens.
em10 mark 3 has been out for a while, and em10 mark 4 is slated to launch next year.
that being said, this is still a pretty good price for a decent camera.
What's a comparable alternative? Can be a little more expensive
Coming from a T3/1100D, is the Auto-focusing much better than that? Was thinking to use it to shoot racing cars and I don't like the look on the A6000.
In good light for single point it'll be much better than the 1100D, but trying to shoot moving targets like racing cars is going to be challenging. You'll get maybe 40% hit rate as the contrast detect will hunt around a lot. That said I've successfully used it at airshows, but it's more of a "spray and pray" experience than anything resembling confident shooting
The OMD EM5 is famed for AF on moving objects. Consider this OMD EM5 mkii for $539.10 after discount: https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Olympus-OM-D-E-M5-Mark-II-Mirror…
Yes I know it is a demo with 6 months warranty ladilah… but put it in perspective, you will find it hard to get that price even from private sellers on eBay and Gumtree, without any warranty.
Yep that's probably a better option - or a Panasonic camera with DFD
@chartparker: Thank you both! I'll need to take a look into it more. The EM5 MkII wasn't in my radar at all.
@Rupa: Great camera. Used it last 4 years. Other than poor AF really low light performance, fantastic camera.
I liked it so much that when my em5-2 died, I just bought a second hand version of the same camera.
Have and love this camera. The E-M5 Mk iii is supposed to be announced tomorrow as an FYI for those holding out for something a bit higher in capability