Is My Co-Worker a Bully? or Am I over Reacting?

Bit of a long story so please take caution on time reading, but I find OzB good for advice on stuff like this, so thanks for your patience.

So I recently started a new part time job (bit less than 3 months ago). It's hands on, shift work with physical labour. We need to work in teams to make sure things get done within a certain time frame every 40 to 120 minutes depending on schedule.
There are levels to this job, and being inexperienced and untrained in the industry, I've started at the bottom.
You could say I'm overqualified because it's a physical labour job without any education requirements, and it's minimum wage but with great overtime and penalty rates. I've got a uni degree- but I don't care about that or the money- I like the idea of getting paid to exercise and working outdoors and doing only 30 hours a week (gotta look after my 11 month old son 2 days a week and my wife makes very good money in her job as a part time employee).

Anyway, the new job is going well, except I have one co-worker who is really starting to get under my skin. This person has been there 8 months, so a bit longer than me, and they are doing the exact same job as me. I am a hard worker and reasonably fast learner. Not perfect but average/better than average at picking things up.

From about one week in, this person started to getting into the habit of pointing out what I'm doing wrong, then advising me of the 'correct' way to do things. Although the 'correct' way would like telling me I'm mowing the lawn the wrong way, or making the bed the wrong way. eg Every person has their own style of completing this job, and as long as it's done correctly, safely and on time, there is no specific correct way- the official company trainer explained this to me and said I'm doing really well.
So yeah, this co-worker got into the habit of correcting me. I was okay with this, because I thought it must be this persons way of trying to help (even though the social awareness of how they were saying things wasn't there).
I thought that because I was new, I'll just shut up and nod and say 'sorry'- not wanting to cause any trouble as the new guy. (There were 3 of us who started at the same time). As a side note, this co-worker is a hard worker and is a reliable team member. Always on time, stays behind if needed- someone you can rely on. So there's no issues there and I'll give credit where it's due.

Anyway, after about 2-3 weeks it got to a point where the rude 'correcting' and helping, became, what I think is, aggressive, targeting behaviour. It came to a climax one afternoon when my co-worker basically lost their temper and aggressively said I was trying to do too much at once, and that it was going to cause a mistake that would cost us time, and that I needed to do one job at a time. (plenty of people do two jobs at a time, I now realize co-worker was probably upset that I was getting more done in the same amount of time, and didn't like it). Again, I said 'Okay, I'll take what you're saying on board'.

Literally 10 minutes later, the co-worker started doing the exact same thing they'd just yelled at me about. So I pointed it out and said 'so are you allowed to do that and I'm not?'. Co worker got defensive and said they were just trying to help get things done quickly, and that I need to calm down. So I confronted them right there and explained that they'd just told me not to do that, in a condescending, aggressive tone, and it was becoming a pattern, and that they needed to back off, or there was going to be a problem. (not a physical problem, just that I wasn't going to put up with it.)
They then apologised and said that it wasn't me, it was their personal situation at home, and that a close family member is dying of cancer. I already knew this as co-worker brings it up regularly with everyone as an excuse for their behavior.
Regardless, I said I respect their hard work and appreciated their 'helping' me as a newer member of the team. Although I'd already complimented this person on their hard work multiple times over the past few weeks, this broke the ice slightly and released some tension out of the situation. I thought all was good.

Anyway so the next few weeks were a bit better. This person was quieter around me, but wasn't seeking me out or being aggressive- were getting along fine on the same shifts. I tried building some commonalities with them but co-worker really isn't interested. This is the kind of person that, when they do bother making an effort to talk to you, talks about themselves but never asks you or anyone else how they are or anything about their lives.
I've never been interested in being friends with this co-worker just want a decent work environment where everyone gets along and respects each other.

Anyway, co-worker went away for a month on holidays, which I thought would be great so they could get some rest and mental refuge. I have gotten better at my job with a bit more experience, and enjoying it.

This co-worker has now gone back to being very quick to point out how wrong I am when I do something incorrectly- even when these things are rather trivial. eg; they wouldn't point small things out like this to other co-workers, but will jump all over it if it was me and also do it aggressively, negatively. Like with a real scowl or angry expression so others can see it.
I also have a feeling they're talking shit about me to other co-workers.
So yeah, my mistakes were at times, real mistakes. Nothing serious, just part of the learning curve of every job.

My question is, should I confront this person again and basically tell them to politely Mod: Foul Language off? This person has only been back from their holiday for 2 weeks, and I've worked maybe 4 or 5 shifts for a total of 20-25 hours with them, but they're back to the same crap from before- it's now got to the point where they won't say hi to me when they walk in. I say 'hey mate', they just look straight ahead and ignore me.

It honestly really is a case of having someone hate you for no real reason at all. I'm a pretty self ware, reasonable person and I've been a manager of 37 staff before. I'm not completely clueless and I've been told by multiple supervisors at work that I'm doing a good job and to just keep doing what I'm doing.
I understand that miserable people like to bring their problems into work and take it out on people who they think are easy targets- but I thought after telling them to back off the first time that the message was clear.
It's almost like this person is back for round 2 and I can't see any way for this to end without me going to my manager (who LOVES me) and telling them that this Mod: Foul Languauge is pretty much a workplace bully.
Problem is I don't want to be that guy at work who dobbed in a co-worker and should 'harden up' in a labourers industry like this.

Would love any advice. Should I talk to coworker again and be firm? Should I just go straight to management? Or should I just document their behaviour and build some evidence before I go to management?
I think my biggest fear about going to management is that my co-workers would label me as the new wimp who couldn't handle a few needles here and there because I really enjoy my job and my other co-workers.
But it just really sucks going to work and having to put up with this for 6 hours at a time and I think this person is having some serious mental/emotional issues of their own that are effecting me (and others) at work.
Thankyou for letting me get that off my chest!

Comments

    • -2

      Would you like the upvotes you're fishing for? Join the queue, plenty of try hards already having a go.

      • +6

        Thanks mate, but as a previous manager "of 37 people" I would have thought you'd be able to summarise this into something more digestible. Perhaps even have managed to solve the issue with your colleague?

        As others have noted, you seem to have an "attitude" in dealing with others that comes through in your post and various responses. I'd dare say that this, first and foremost, is the issue that needs to addressed here.

        • -4

          Thanks for the psychological assessment.
          Couldn't possibly be that I'm being targeted at work by a miserable (profanity), and I'm asking for advice from people who have been in the same situation, I must be a delusional sociopath with zero awareness.
          You've enlightened me.

          • +1

            @[Deactivated]: Oh man you should give passive aggressive remarks back to your co worker. That should him in his place

          • +4

            @[Deactivated]: Funny how multiple random people on here all get a certain condescending vibe from you .

            I would love to hear your coworkers side of the story .

            • -2

              @qwerty: I'm condescending to the condescending commenters.
              I've actually had multiple private messages from people saying 'you are absolutely correct and I can't believe how many (profanity) are replying without reading the story or making assumption on how I am as a person because they interpreted the situational context their own way'.

              Funny how more people have commented backing me up than haven't backed me up.
              I guess we're all wrong.

              • +2

                @[Deactivated]:

                I've actually had multiple private messages from people saying 'you are absolutely correct … '

                And here he (OP) goes again. And they also told you they love you.

  • +1

    I'd dare say that this, first and foremost, is the issue that needs to addressed here. Besides that I reckon you should invite your co worker on here besides getting his side of the story it will add more bite to the thread :)

  • Can you tell what work does your missus do part time to make very good money ? I am looking for a part time job and am out of ideas.

    On your situation, if I were you, I'd put in a formal complaint mentioning everything you have mentioned here. You dont have to put up with all this and it is also your employers obligation to provide you with a work place where you can discharge your duties efficiently. This is classic workplace bullying. You have the power to stop it here - or they will pick another person and go on with it. I would even keep the professional interaction at arms length if you HAVE to work with them.

    • she's a psychologist actually lol. had a kid and now works 3 days a week- but she was full time before bubs.
      She has said I need to confront the person politelyand give them another friendly reminder/warning while telling one of my mates at work about it (who is also new but has said he'll happilly verfiy my claims because he's witnessed it) but personally I want to see what others have done as my main concern is losing respect amongst my other co-workers.

      • Did the guy ever approach you when there are other people around?

        • in front of one other co-worker (who they are friends with) they do it occasionally. Otherwise it's pretty much when it's just us two.
          This guy notices it and it makes him awkward but I'm not gonna ask him to say/do anything because it's not his fault.
          I have told the culprit to piss off in front of other co-workers though so they are aware there is a rift.

  • +2

    Get a small notebook. Whenever mofo does it, get out the book and write down the date and time and a quick note. You can leave space to fill in more details when you get home.

    Optional: Do this in clear view of the perp every time.

    • +1

      Your optional suggestion is something that would not wash in a blue collar workplace. You'd never hear the end of it.

  • +1

    Repeat everytime they chime in "yeah I got it mate".

    That's it.

    Management says you're doing a good job. Nothing to worry about.

  • +1

    Nothing over Reacting, in gereral anyone who thinks bullying is ok is messed up, maybe stop being double standand. What if it was a woman getting this?

  • +1

    Old school;punch him in the gob.
    Modern;chat politely with him.

    I suggest both. Best the shit out of him while, politely, pointing out what he's done wrong. If you do it in front of other co-workers, you'll never be bothered again.

    Or bikies.

  • +4

    When you take a zero skill manual labour job you get to work with a lot of idiots…

  • Tell him to raise it to the management if he disagree with what you are doing.

  • probably jealous and afraid of being overtaken.

    • The question is WHO ? OP or the other 'Miserable' guy ?

      • the misery guy is jealous since he is the guy that has been there longer and his boss may be recognizing or talking good about him or maybe he is just jealous of the other guy's life in general

  • -4

    I got bored after the first 3 words…

    • You should have read them. Thanks for taking more of your own precious time to comment and fish for upvotes. Absolute legend.

      • -2

        Is it even worth replying to this? Maybe you would benefit from caring less about small stuff like that.

        Source: over-sensitive self :P

        • +1

          Was worth it actually. I didn't notice dono2 was fishing for upvotes until it was pointed out. I neg'd to try and offset it a little.

    1. Pause whatever your are doing, look him straight in the eyes and tell him to "back off, mate".
    2. Repeat the same words again and again likes he's dumb.
    3. If he gets confrontational, "listen mate, all I'm doing is asking you to back off politely, so back off"
  • +6

    I think you should use your experience from being a manager of 37 staff before. Think how would you handle this if your staff comes to you with your current situation. With the knowledge of being a manager of 37 staff, I believe you can do this. Good luck!!

    • That was my own business and i got to pick the people that worked for me, 30 of those 37 staff were casuals, so if there were problems between staff, I could put them on separate shifts or simply not give them shifts. I also worked amongst them so I got a feel for what was happening between staff.
      But also, i was lucky enough to never have to deal with a staff member coming to me for bullying in 10 years (they all got along really well for the most part- until relationships started between them lol).
      If one of my staff came to me with a bullying issue I know exactly what I'd do in that environment.

      However, that was a food business with younger adults and teenagers as co workers.
      This is a manual labor job with 99% male mid 40-50 year old colleagues in a very macho environment, and my manager doesn't actually work in the field with me, they work in an office about 100 metres from the site.

      So alas, I'm seeking advice from different perspectives before making a decision on what to do.
      Thanks for the reply.

      • +3

        Modern office politics is like being in the jungle. Director chimps call the shots and bigger executive director chimps back their favourite spreadsheet monkeys. Then you’ve got managing director chimps who bring in the big bucks and act like they’re King Kong. Even managers have to play the office politics game well. Your situation sounds similar minus the suits and ties.

        Just remember HR isn’t your friend and managers loathe paperwork (and those who generate paperwork)

        • Findo got a point

      • Why on earth would you give up an own business?

  • +1

    No need to get more agro.

    Just remind the co-worker of the conversation you had previously about the same topic (which seemed to elicit a positive response based on what you've said) and say that you feel like that behaviour has started up again since he returned to work.

    See what response you get and act accordingly.

    Sometimes people need to be told something more than once in order for it to fully sink in.

    • This is my basic conclusion at the moment.
      I'll try and be firm without being too aggressive, try and let it sink in for this person so they realize they're going back to old behavior.
      Give them a few days to ponder and change. If no change, further action required I guess.

      Thanks for the help.

      • +2

        Edit: Just read your post above where you wrote more about your relationship with your supervisor. Probably wouldn't jump to the strategy below unless you get nowhere trying to engage your co-worker directly.

        I'm not sure how close your supervisor is to the work that you're doing, but generally managers like to be kept abreast of what's happening within the team dynamic even if they don't intend to take any action.

        I've found not making a big song and dance about things and just having a quiet word in the ear of your supervisor can be helpful in blue collar work environments.

        Just a quick "Hey mate, recently Bozo and I have been having a few disagreements on site about the way things should be done. Nothing major and I'm managing to handle it with him directly right now but just thought I'd let you know." See what response you get back.

        I'd probably only take that approach if there's not a real hierarchy to the team and your boss is "in the shed" with you (so to speak) and not some uptight suit in an office who's likely to freak out about it.

        If your boss is on the ground then he's probably better placed to deal with issues in a subtle / indirect way rather than turning things into a huge IR issue.

  • +4

    It's long, but at least written well, and you have actually tried to solve the issue yourself, this post is an A+ for ozbargain.

    Just do what you did before, they don't seem to like being called out, and you seem to be able to get your point across without being an ahole.

  • +1

    Its probably just type person he/ she is. Always thinking what is right / what should or could have been done correctly or better.

    There is no point on stressing about it too much as you can't change the way he / she is. So try to change your perspective in handling your situation, instead of forcing him / her to stop doing that, just have a calm reaction to what they are saying eg. sure, ok ( you don't need to do what they ask you if its bothersome).

    if things got out of hand and making you stressed.. find another job

  • I have people like this where I work, some of my co workers attempt to change shifts to avoid these idiots…

    Telling this person to (profanity) off (again)

  • Sounds like your not very experienced in the workplace if you don't know how to handle people like this.

    What you do is grow a pair, tell them to mind their own business and worry about their own work. If they keep going, tell them to (profanity) off.

    End of thread.

  • What about explaining to your boss what is happening, and that you are going to ask the co-worker to back off, and you'll let your boss know how things turn out. That way the issue is 'known' and you're covered.
    Boss might know all about the problem child.

  • +1

    This is bullying. Especially when you called them on it - they backed down for a bit, then got back into it, have a look up the 'cycle of violence' - it's basically the cycle of abuse (and it applies to any form of abuse domestic, workplace or other) where it escalates and escalates, then they get pulled up on it, it quietens down into the 'honeymoon' period and then starts again. With every iteration of that cycle it gets worse and can escalate to a terminal point and that is something you want to be nowhere near. Plenty of people have loved ones with cancer, it doesn't make them aggro at work. This persons internal regulation is off and I can see a lot of red flags here.

    My advice is to speak to your boss and just be honest - let them know what happened, that you tried to resolve it and that they explained they had an unwell family member, but that it's starting up again and you'd prefer this not to get out of control. I'd probably do this with the supervisor you trust the most and the suggestion above to keep it a casual sort of 'signposting' discussion is a good one. This coworker sounds like their mental health is deterioriating and you are not responsible for that, and you do not want to be near them when they do implode. It's very tricky with people who aren't interested in help - at best (and hopefully), one of the supervisors knows about it and can check in with them and offer them help (but even this can be interpreted as being seen as 'weak' and can make it worse). This person needs help but it's not the sort of help that can come from work, and using work to let it all out isn't really appropriate either. Good luck OP, I would ask to be put on different shifts if possible too, this person is going to snap at some point.

  • Can you summarise this please? It's Ozbargain, not Dr Phil.
    I'm looking for a bargain read.

    • TLDR - coworker at same level is nitpicking then slowly becoming more aggressive with it. OP calls them on it, they back down and blame it on a sick family member in true bully style, settle down for a few weeks, then starts back up again, only worse. OP torn between calling them on it again or escalating to supervisor.

  • You have 2 options:
    1) tell them from now on if they have any issues with your work to take it to your/their supervisor (I'm assuming they're the one and the same person) and you will no longer entertain their criticism

    Or

    2) what did your supervisor say when you discussed this with them?

    • +1

      Had a coworker power trip on me when i was helping her out. Thats right. I been asked to help her out. Whats the first thing she does. Micromanage me. I put her in her place. She complain to our boss and our boss backed off when i told him whatever i get assigned as a task wil get done.

      Sometimes you just got to be blunt with people.

  • Speak to your boss or supervisor about it first!

    • This will only make things worse.

  • If its not his job to spot your errors I'd do 2 things:

    1. Be direct and tell him to report these issues to your manager as it is interrupting your work flow and you are sick of it, and that you feel he is bullying you.

    2. If that doesn't stop it, go to your direct boss/manager (assuming you both have the same boss) and ask them if they could tell your co-worker to stop interrupting you during your work. Also that you have asked him to stop, and he did for a bit, but it started again after he came back from holiday, and that you have also asked him to report stuff to [the manager] instead because you feel like you are being bullied.

    If it is his job, just tell your manager you feel like you're being bullied and would like a different way to be told about these errors. Maybe ask for them in writing or something? IDK.

  • +1

    Marry his mum and become his new daddy.

  • +1

    My assumed, generalised two-cents.

    They can tell you're an educated private school kid. It looks that way from this well written post. You're fresh fish and they're bullying you.

    I am not suggesting you quit, but by the kind of environment I am imaging it to be after reading your post, I doubt you will change any sort of culture there by lodging complaints with superiors or HR (not sure any organising, be it blue or white collar where any of that works anyway).

    If you can muster up the courage to go there each day, you might develop some thick skin which is always a good trait. Just be confident in yourself and he might develop some sort of respect towards you. A bully is best dealt with by ignoring them or giving it back to them (telling them to go eff themself).

    Good luck.

  • Be friend with the manager, any problems can be resolved.

  • +2

    If your work is autonomous and there is no requirement for u to work with or interact with this person, speak directly with Ur manager to request a reduction of similar shifts with the trouble maker.

    I read through your OP in 5mins, not sure why people are complaining about the length and I appreciate your ability to communicate your grievances and how you feel in these circumstances. People who tell you otherwise are the same people that would sweep stuff under the rug and use excuses like "he/she wasn't able to make it clear, how am I suppose to know how they feel".

    This is how you silently allow for workplace bullying to occur and accept it as the norm because of toxic "man the (profanity) up" culture. That can be said about the physical difficulty of work but never about how you should be treated by others.

    A simple assessment would be for the aggressor to go, if I were in his shoes, do I want to be treated the same way? Unfortunately, some people are unable to self reflect and are constantly clouded by their own personal circumstances - their ability to treat people with respect and withhold a decent standard of work ethic boils down to how selfish they are as a person really.

    I do agree with some previous posters that nothing you can do may improve your workplace relations aside from avoidance. They've already type casted you as the educated guy that works smart and not necessarily hard (ie spoiling the market, making the rest look bad with your efficiency). The ideal solution would be to hang in there and find another job with a healthier work culture and people that share the same work ethic.

  • Was too much of an essay… couldn't finish

    • It was a toss up between reading this or Macbeth….

    • Thanks I take pride in my intelligible responses to real world problems. If trolls are trolling then I know I'm doing it right.

  • +1

    Given that last time they used the cancer card, the holiday may not have been that. The family member may have deteriorated and thus, the negative behaviour exhibited towards you has returned.
    If I were you, I would give them another chance by finding the right time to genuinely ask how that family member was doing, because they're showing signs of frustration and aggression towards you, which was related to their condition last time.

    This should give you significant insight into their current state. I give people the benefit of the doubt and a second chance, but very very rarely a third. If he snaps or continues, then cut your losses with that sod.

    If you think it's severe enough to talk to management, go for it. You could even preface it with the fact you're aware they are going through personal difficulties at the moment. But to ensure a productive work environment, some action needs to happen regarding the other staff members behaviour.

  • +1

    I am so sorry this is happening to you. Regardless of the other person's side of things, this is how you feel and it's not a nice feeling. Most of us just want to go to work and do our thing without having someone making it difficult.

    In answer to your questions, these are my thoughts:

    • Should I talk to coworker again and be firm?

    I'm of two minds of this. Going straight to your coworker and voicing your concerns is great but of course, it depends on how you're approaching it. I definitely wouldn't recommend telling them to eff off, no. I recommend talking to them one on one and run through a couple of instances where you felt as though you were being bullied. Let them know you perceived their behaviour as bullying and why. Give them actual examples and be clear about what is it exactly made you feel this way. Then let them know that if they persist with this behaviour, you will need to arrange a meeting with management and HR for mediation or whatever is available at your workplace.

    -Should I just go straight to management?

    Definitely give your coworker another talking to, as mentioned. If the behaviour persists, speak to management. It's always ideal to see if you can resolve the situation yourself before going to management.

    • Or should I just document their behaviour and build some evidence before I go to management?

    You should be building evidence already. Keep a log of date, time, location, incident and any witnesses. If you also encounter any issues that stop you from doing your work (for example, had a sick day due to anxiety or spent 2 hours arguing etc) that should also be documented. Unfortunately, businesses want to know how this situation is affecting their bottom line and they don't want you to sue them either.

    • I think my biggest fear about going to management is that my co-workers would label me as the new wimp who couldn't handle a few needles here and there because I really enjoy my job and my other co-workers.

    That is a legitimate fear and most likely, there are people who will think this. Unfortunately, you cannot be vocal about a situation like this without attracting negative attention. It's par for the course. Don't worry about them, but just be prepared that it may cause issues especially if this person is popular.

    • Thankyou for letting me get that off my chest!

    At the end of the day, if this is affecting you to the point where you are really unhappy, quit! Be happy somewhere else!

    I hope this helps you. All the best.

  • If as your co-worker explained his anger came from his own life, and you are pretty much the only victim in your workplace, it is unlikely that he will change unless a new victim shows up. He is used to it, so don't think that another conversation would make a difference, just don't bother.

    I suggest you go to your manager straight away with a bullying report form with details (keep a record rather than rely on your memory). But before doing that, you will need to think if it is safe to do so. Your job involves physical work and requires teamwork, and I don't know if an angry co-worker should be considered as a safety hazard. Mention that you don't feel safe in your report if you don't feel safe.

    For the fear that other co-workers may think that you are a wimp, I think you can simply talk to them privately before you go to your manager, tell them that you are frustrated, depressed, and you can't cope with that any more, because all the negative energy you taking home is making your life miserable, even if every day you come home a happy boy. Win some sympathy before your next move. I know that this sounds cunning, but you are not trying to harm anyone but to protect yourself.

    This is pretty much a textbook style suggestion I can give you, but in real life I'm not so sure how effective it could be. In the company I worked for, a factory manager sacked the bully after someone lodged a formal report. Of course it took a while to get enough excuses to sack him but when the report was received the factory manager told me privately that she is going to get rid of the prick. However not all stories have a happy ending. No one can criticize you for being soft and polite (coward) but sometimes that is the reason that you get picked. I'm not really suggesting you being tough and strong, because you are not (it took you so long to confront him and now you are seeking for advice). It is not something that you can change overnight. You learn it and you get used to it, but it takes time. I'm not sure if this is how you want to be. If you are not ready to say (profanity) off, don't say it.

    All the best.

  • +1

    I prob missed some points

    1 - Is this person doing the correction to the other new staff members or you notice is just you?
    2 - I would have a 1 on 1 with him and have a chat with him (if you feel comfortable about it) stating that you are now comfortable with your job and the end result of the job is completed whether you do it with your own process or his process. I mean, 2+2=4, also 1+3=4. Whatever process you follow, just as long the end result is the same, who cares how someone does things.

  • OP I did find it interesting you never mentioned at all that the bully is a she until one of your replies.

    Just ignore her.

    • The "she" he was talking about was possibly his psychologist-wife.

    • I noticed that no gender was mentioned in the original post too so kept my response equal neutral. But I disagree with that response - assuming the OP's bully is female (and and shreav mentioned he might have been talking about his wife)- ignoring her assumes she's harmless (am I wrong in assuming you've said this because she's female)? She's not harmless, she's abusive. I would still report her for this behaviour because abusive people don't need to be large, male and physically threatening through size alone to do real damage.

  • +1
    1. Take the calm cool and collected approach - each time it happens, approach it the same way, with a calm but firm - back off please. Log each time and notify a co-worker of each time as well.

    2. When it hits 3 clear cut times it has happened, that is when you need to have a meeting with your supervisor and/or highest manager. Bullying of any kind should not be tolerated, no matter what the bullies situation is. If they are too stressed, their anger should not be put onto other co-worker who are trying to work and make an honest living. They can talk to their manager about it, who can put them on to councilling if needed, they can seek alternate therapy or take stress leave. They should not on multiple occassions, seemingly most weeks put that towards co-workers. That is a sign of a bully and an overall shit worker.

    You don't put on your resume- I am a hard worker and can do all the aspects of the job within the time frames, but I yell and put other workers down and pick on them from time to time. That's essentially what is going on - the worker is good at their job, gets it done, and is bullying a co-worker, which just isn't acceptable.

    1. In the meeting show them the log, stand firm with everything and be open and honest with what has gone on behind the scenes. Mention the other worker who you notified about it each time it happened and that they can talk to them also.

    If management has to speak to him and give him a formal warning, I'm sure that will make him change his ways. If it doesn't then that's on him and he will lose his job, as no one in a workplace should have a job after that, doesn't matter how good you are. Also management will take it very seriously, as if they don't then that looks really really bad on them and they could lose their job, so they won't risk taking it lightely at all. They will get to the bottom of it and follow the right procedures to make the situation better.

    I wouldn't let it stress you out, just stay chilled about it all and try not to let it affect your own life.

  • most people seem to forget that in EVERY workplace there will be at least one a#@hole.

    there will always be someone in your workplace that you don't see eye to eye.

    How does one avoid this? start your own business, employ no one

    i think you need a cup of concrete instead of caffeine

  • I'd just say if you dont like the way i do it you can always change it - i'd tell management not to complain just say this blokes got an issue i dont wanna take it further but he is doing 'my head in' then if comments on your work just be like you dont like it take it up with management.

    Sounds like he is going though a hard time but at the same time he sounds like a spud of a bloke but in the end of the day keep you personal shit personal - i'd tell him to f off

  • Stop trying to be friends with this person. Learn to laugh it off. Don't get stressed that he doesn't like you.

    If you are reacting to his negative behaviour towards you then he essentially has control over you. If you learn to laugh it off, then he will has no control over you.

    If you are worried that he is badmouthing you to other people then try make friends with them and not him. Play the politics game. Once you are friends with everyone else then you can probably find out what they think about him. Chances are he isn't that friendly to everyone else as well.

    In the end it may be the case that you do the job better than him and the management like you more than they like him. He may be angry about this but unwilling or incapable of changing it. If this is the case then there is no solution to resolving the issues between you two.

  • He is lashing out because he is witnessing someone close die in one of the most horrible ways. Don't make anther's slow, horrible death about you.

    You have a uni degree. Use your brain to solve your problems. Be approachable, kind and friendly and your coworker will stop snapping at you because it will only make them feel worse.

    This is very low on the bulling scale. A complaint to management for an issue like this would normally make you look bad (unable to work cooperatively). But with a family member known to be dying, it would make you look like a complete sack of poop.

    But if you really want to be a kicker of poop, in front of a different coworker (a witness), very politely ask them to stop correcting you. Write down time, date, witness name/'s and what was said. If it continues, write a quick complaint and email it to your manager, noting you asked your coworker politely to stop, giving brief details (two small paragraphs max).

    BUT… this will make a ton of work for your manager and their manager. They will stop liking you.

    tl;dr: Smile, nod and be a good worker, not a trouble maker.

  • -2

    Boring, next.

  • +1

    address it to your manager, and let them deal with it. Thats why they get paid the big bucks

  • +1

    Mate 100% start taking notes with dates and times, over the next 2-4 weeks at least and then raise it with your manager.

  • +1

    Hey mate

    So it’s been about 2 weeks since the start of this story, what’s the result?

    • see below mate.

  • +3

    Hey OzB, updated for yall.
    So basically after I posted this, the Bully has started to completely change their tune and has almost completely stopped harrassing me. Even saying hi, offering to help,and saying good bye at the end of the shift.
    It's a welcome relief.
    It's almost like they started taking anti depressants or something. Like a complete 180 degree change. I was literally days away from telling them to piss off again and warning them and then something happened.

    I had said somthing to a co-worker about how it sucks working with Bully because of how miserable the person is, and how I felt like they were just trying to control everything I did in the field compared to everyone else.

    I'm thinking my co-worker suggested something to the bully and has made them think about their behavior- co-worker is respected and a really good guy who is pretty frank. Seems to have done the trick.

    We also had a few incidents where the Bully made some mistakes that I picked up on, and I quietly pointed out to them (which saved their ass from getting yelled at by our supervisor). By doing this nicely and respectfully, I think they realized it's not a competition and I'm not their enemy- I'm a team mate.

    Anyway, it's been good for 2 weeks now. So fingers crossed.
    I will post updates if there's anything significant.
    But thanks everyone for your support and guidance.

    Really appreciate the support during a tough time like this.

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