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geez, some shocking reviews on that one
definitely one to avoid
A must read to consider before making a move with these guys. Something smells a bit strange but potential customers should do their own research.
https://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/2602688
The whole "10 year warranty" thing is ridiculous for a company (in the shape of this business name) has been around for 3 years.
To be fair it’s four out of five stars isn’t bad. The bad reviews generally aren’t about the workmanship or the gear, it’s the taking the deposit and not getting a quick install date.
Due to offering best price in the market, we have a lot of jobs, which is why installations are delayed.
However, not everyone is willing to wait and bear with us. So they end up cancelling by getting their deposits back.
We often require little to no deposits, and customers only pay after we install the jobs.
It is true that you can never make everyone happy.
Is Newcastle included as metro or are you Sydney only?
@Bellpop: Hi Bellpop,
we service all over NSW, but anything over 80km from Wetherill Park attracts travel charge 1$ per km.
@mnalam24: Both ways or just to the house. It’s 165km so 165-80= $85.
Can you pm me and give me a call?
Thanks fair. I’m keen. Book me in. I’ll report back to everyone on ozbargain and let you all know how I go 😬
@SydBoy: Why the f would you put up a system with a 5kw inverter and 3kw of panels?
Thats like the opposite ratio for a well implemented system to give maximum STCs (gov rebates are on panels not inverters) and performance.
@SydBoy: Whatever, your (wasted) dime.
Any installer who takes that setup is 100 percent not doing a job in your best interest, and failing to educate you in the best way to implement a solar system
@SydBoy: Hi, please email [email protected] for a detailed quote with your choice of products. Pls mention ozbargain
@SydBoy: Hi Sydboy, please email [email protected] for a detailed quote with your choice of products. Pls mention ozbargain
there is a big difference between customers complaining that their installations were delayed due to demand
VS
"September 2018 and still i can't get an installation date nor a refund of my money after requesting it in writing plus so many phone calls to them. It's has been more then 7 months now since placed the deposit and I have given up on trying to contact them"
looks like there is a common trend of you not returning multiple contacts or at least even letting them know of why there is a delay or even a promised schedule date
PASS
@Samsungnote10: Sure, but that said, more people whinge and report than the people who get what they pay for and go about their lives. Worst case scenario u file a complaint with fair trading and get your money back and name and shame on those websites if that’s the case. Their product review page is pretty impressive.
@Bellpop: there is always people who are going to exaggerate or even write fake reviews, but me personally, i find the feedback all too consistent and too siginficant
if the complaints were "promised to install within 2 months but took 3, good product" or "a bit slow on communications but the product is good" it wouldnt bother me too much
there are a lot of companies that have gone belly up, thus not providing warranty, and even Fair Trading wont help
for me combined with numerous warranty issues, its a no go for me
but I can understand those that arent too bothered by the reviews
@Samsungnote10: My neighbour recently helped a plumber remove a broken solar hot water, unit manufactured 2016 installed jan 2017 ripped out due to breaking last month. Owner had to use home insurance to repair and fix water damage and installer is gone in only 2 years…
Point is warranty is important
@Bellpop: Completely true. But certain complaints should never be.
Which is why stars don't mean much to me (yes, I'm weird). People vote 1's or 5's in today's society. Its what they write that interests me.
@Samsungnote10: Recent reviews:
Stay away, run for your life, cheap is nasty, the system was installed in May 2019 and failed 1st September 2019, I have made 12 calls to date and nothing, no call back, nothing, every call I have promised a call back from service within an hour 16 days and still nothing, time for a visit face to face Wetheril Park. DO NOT USE THIS COMPANY
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I was originally impressed with this company with the solar power panel system that I got a second one for my daughter.
Now I am pulling my hair out. This is because there is zero after-sales support. I am even having issues with Solar Power Nation honouring the terms of the warranty.
This is my problem. One of the 5 Kw Goodwe inverters failed within days of installation. It is supposed to be a brand new inverter. Solar Power Nation reassured me they will attend to the matter promptly. But this solar power panel System was installed almost 6 month ago and Solar Power Nation is dragging its feet. It has come to the stage that there is now no communication as Solar Power Nation ignores the emails sent to them.
Buyers beware. It is generally a good system with generally good installers, but Solar Power Nation will not honour the warranty for replacement of defective 5 Kw Goodwe inverter. If the solar panels were to fail, I don't think they would honour the warranty for the solar panels too.
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The installation wasn’t done correctly. No proper response from the company to get the issue fixed. It has been 8 months I have been in touch with the company. But still the issue didn’t get resolved. Not at all acceptable.
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I will not recommended then to anyone . I put deposit in October2018. They were supposed to install my solar system b4 Christmas last year . But they keep saying they don’t have this in stock they don’t have that in stock. We don’t have these panels in stock we will give u that pannel . We don’t have this inverter.
I book my system in October 2018 and now its nearly May 2019 they still haven’t install my system
And it goes on….
Why would you even risk it.
@brad1-8tsi: Geez, thanks for the update
How does something new fail?
Thats what i dont get
I would have thought a dodgy install just wouldn't work from the start
@Samsungnote10: Poor design, poor quality of materials or poor quality control.
The AeroSharp inverter on the first system I bought was really good for a few months then died for no apparent reason. The replacement was good for another 5 years and then it died.
if your so busy with orders and have delays of up to 6 months, and cant even return calls/emails/msgs, why are you advertising for more orders?
@wholistic: ironic, how they ignore my question about existing customers and their delays in installation and being ignored, yet continually reply to other questions posted after, with requests for quotes and sales
if your so busy with orders and have delays of up to 6 months, and cant even return calls/emails/msgs, why are you advertising for more orders?
This! Exactly what I was thinking.
The bad reviews generally aren’t about the workmanship or the gear, it’s the taking the deposit and not getting a quick install date.
I think, generally, once installs are outsourced/sub-contracted to the cheapest of cheap contractors offering to do the installs, it often ends in a bad experience for the customer.
To be fair, I'm not sure how they can avoid it easily. Certainly if they did all their own installs with a highly trained team, this would go along way to a better customer experience. But would add cost.
I know someone who experienced a dodgy water heater install (and long wait also before they even came) . It was through either aldi or Harvey Norman. But outsourced to sub contractor.
I think my friend followed it up with fair trading in the end, and got a possitive result. He was very frustrated with waiting weeks, and then when they finally came they did a dodgy job (which he picked up on, as an electrical engineer) .
Same seems to happen all they time with housing department contractors. They go for the cheapest person to do the job, and it often ends up in dodgy work done resulting in ongoing costs fixing up and maintaining the initial work because it's not done right to begin with.
An example is when public housing contractor came to 'fix' leak under sink. It wasn't until they came back about the 3rd or 4th time, that they actually fixed it. The other times, the subbies just bill for their 2-3 times, they would just throw a pile of messy looking silicon on it, then wait till it leaks again and they get more work.
Finding skilled people to work at a good price, and still do a good job, is hard to find these days. Just doesn't seem to be that same pride in work, and work ethic, as much as there used to be in the 'old days' .
I got an installation done from them in May this year.
Apart from a month's delay everything else turned out pretty descent.
In winter ended up paying $60 for 2.5 months.
I went for mono longi panels with Goodwe inverter and paid 3.2K for installation on double storey house.
There was no other that could beat this price.
Felt like writing this for benefit of others.
How long do u feel it would take to pay off what you’ve purchased? I’m 3/4 keen to get solar but feel like the feed in Tarif is low which isn’t good for a family that is out at work and school all day and uses little power during daylight hours
I get a feed in tariif of 15c.
With that I think should be around 2.5 years payback time.
Shop for a good energy provider who offers great feed in tariff.
I am sticking to my current provider coz of great energy pay on time discount.
Thanks mate. Is it the same gear as is in this deal? Might have to pull the trigger.
@Bellpop: nope.
i think this deal is offering poly panels.
and inverter is different.
my brand was longi mono crystalline panels 315 watts per panel and goodwe inverter which comes with support for battery… inverter has two strings power line input.. helps split the panels into two groups… helpful in situations where panels have to be split across two different orientation. I am not very much into techical details but from what I read longi & goodwe looked good to me..
suggest to ask them as many questions you have before you pull the plug and certainly make them provide the pros and cons of each type of equipment..
one good thing about my deal was that they took deposit of only $100 and remaining was after everything was installed and configured.. i m not sure what they do now..
The provider who offer the best rate ia origin. Just search on ozb keyword origin.
Who are you with to get the 15c feed in tarrif ?
@Archi: My GF gets 20c with AGL Solar Savers. That was their rate in Sep '18. Maybe that's changed.
We used Wattever.com.au to find the best deal for her usage pattern. It's very "solar focused"
@CyberMurning: It appears to be still available (but at a reduced 15c FIT) but not on their website. Maybe online chat or call them?
https://www.energymadeeasy.gov.au/offer/1001509/print?postco…
Origin Solar Optimer 21c FIT seems to be the best ATM if you are a high exporter. 87c supply charge. 30c kwh flat rate
https://www.energymadeeasy.gov.au/offer/934713/print?postcod…
@brad1-8tsi: yeah i just did chat and 15 is the highest. yeah once i got the solar isntalled and running we will move from agl to origin
How long do u feel it would take to pay off what you’ve purchased? I
ROI on solar only matters if you then consider how long it keeps working for many many years after that
Right. But say it pays off after two years, anything after that is gravy right. 10 years? That’s cool. Can re do then.
@Bellpop: if you look at many complaints about cheap systems, 10 years is likely optimistic
i just think getting solar and just 'binning it' after 5-10 years seems like a pretty wasteful way to go with 'renewable' energy (and a waste of the tax payer funded REC rebates)
the number of old panels and inverters that end up in landfill is pretty wasteful
@Bellpop: REC are nationwide…Vic stuff is on top of this (and a f*&$!n shambles in how it's being managed..companies using bots to auto submit applications on the first of the month due to the limited slots..monthly slots being allocated within one or 2 minutes)
Anything can happen in betweens…just like my mate who spent 9k out of pocket on LG panels and Enphase microinverters. Only a few months old and was pelted with biggish hail and a few were damaged. Good thing he didnt forget to list it on Insurance and it was covered.
@id: Agreed.
My old man shelled-out for a great system, to fill his carport & side of sloped double storey. In heavy storms, the massive gum tree nearby just "fell over" (completely uprooted), and fell on the carport.
We switched everything off, cut & removed all debris… Not one bit of damage. Absolute pure luck.
If you can find a supplier that offers a decent rate. I don't know what other "investment" you could make that could potentially pay itself off in even at worst 4 years? and then after that is what? Free power?
it program dishwasher and aircon and washer drys to work in day time i know myself i program cloth was for 10am to 12 and 12 to 2 is dish time. aircon come on 20min before i get home in North Queensland. we only get 7.8 cent for my solar system it a joke some time on hot day turn aircon on for my dogs for hell off it or pop it on 2hours before come set it 22
I'm glad I got solar back in 2015. I dread to think how much my power bills would be now with two young kids! Solar is a great investment for you and the planet. Just gotta be careful with the quality you choose!
Would u go with this deal? It’s ozbargain so we love a good price but I don’t wanna be left with junk.
I'd be researching what they mean by "tier one" ET solar panel and where the inverter is from, what warranties they come with, etc. Also how do you connect them to the grid with your current power company or do you need to switch? Speak with your power company (and others), they may have a better product available.
There are hundreds if not thousands of solar companies and brands in Australia now so it's really hard to figure it all out, and research is definitely essential before biting the bullet. I backed out of a deal where their sales pitch said "European panels" which turned out to be cheap Chinese nasties (It was not Euro Solar but I hear they're worse). Gotta be really careful!
@King Steuart: Thanks mate. But who cares where they’re made. My iphone is ‘designed in California’ but made in China. I’m not being a smartass just saying does it really matter?
@Bellpop: The quality really does matter. It could be the difference between buying an iPhone and a Elephone.
@jesseboy89: Both made in China, so doesn’t really say anything about which country/continent it’s made. Anyway, agree to disagree
@Bellpop: To be clear, I still went with Chinese panels. There are great Chinese panels and there are awful ones. Do your research!
You can install the best branded panels/inverters in the market but it's the installer you need to question. Low cost deals like this tend to be installers that will cut corners during the engagement, offer no post-install support, etc. There are multiple Facebook groups where Aussies are providing input on 'crap' solar installs and people are also seeking advice from deals such as this.
Look up "Crap solar" and "Solar Q&A Aus/NZ". There's quite a lot of negative feedback about these folks from people in this group.
Hope this helps.
@daiguren: Exactly. All depends on the CEC approved installer/team the mob you buy from uses to install at your particular house. As each small team can only do 1 or 2 a day, each company uses a lot of different ones.
Sure, a cheap supplier is more likely to send you a bad installer, as is one who cares less about their brand as they plan to pheonix the company when warranty claims mount. But IMHO all you really need is one that follows the rules and does a fair job and pays attention to any special requirements you have.
Defo true that a company this size can never keep every customer happy, even amongst all the happy ones there will be sociopaths with some alterior motive to whinge online.
My mum paid 8k for quality 5Kw across one group on a tin roof. The job was done well, but not complex at all. They could have given her more for the money, but it seems they took profit instead. A year later this mob charged me 1/3 of that for 6.6Kw on 2 faces, one split across tin and tile. The installer was A1, (Yes, I did my research and am cluey enough about building, standards and engineering to know). However if I were a racist I'd possibly think otherwise (just to emphasize the point above). Both systems output about same- but how long for we'll see as my panels are PERC, and no-one really knows how long PERC tech will last in the Oz sun yet, AFAIK.
@daiguren: What are the points to look out for as a novice with no more than Google search level understanding?
Common pitfalls? Wire gauge?
No mate i would not i have friend went with euro solar she pay $4299 well i went with local company i paid $6000 my solar work had no problem after rain event in Townsville Queensland in Feb flood well her system now has rizone problem half her house flooded from roof broke titles from solar install
If you have stats, what is the total power you have generated since its installed?
14.11MWh 2018 05 04 it 5kw 6.6kw i will pm
i can sent your solar link so take personal look at my system i am in Townsville north Queensland
SAJ? ET?
Never heard of either.
Is it best to stay with known brands? What are the implications of a cheap inverter? Does it not make as much electricity?
Cheap out on panels before you cheap out on an inverter.
Can u elaborate? Which inverted should I go with?
An inverter is much easier to replace though.
Hi. Can you provide details on the specific models of panels and the inverter? There seem to be quite a few ET panels (some which get quite good reviews) but apparently some aren't stated as meeting IEC 61701 for corrosion resistance. Thanks.
I’d also like to know this.
So You can fix the price and advertise but not what’s there included in that price? M pretty sure this $2399 is for certain panel n certain inverter. If there is change in either of these, so do the price wd change.
Energy Australia quote me 20 Triva panel and inverter for $7000.. whats the difference its make?
Yeah I don't get how this is SO much cheaper than all the other retailers? Is there a catch?
Yes, there is a catch. And that is our volume, which gives us strength to get bargain as well. We simply pass on the savings to customers. We make little margins but they add up due to our volume and continuous flow of work for our isntallers.
don't go with any of retailer offer because all they do is pass on to the subcontractor to do the job and take a cut on the margin, doing this is more expensive than using a dedicated installer well known in your region, although warranty wise it's not too bad because retailers don't want to cop bad names for dodging after sale services but there'll be extra layer of communication if thing goes sour and it might take a while to sort it out.
How are these so cheap? and do they qualify for Victorian Solar Rebates?
We rely on volumes. And we don't do vic. Its an unreliable market for solar companies.
Can you please elaborate what you mean by that? I’m in Vic and currently exploring solar options, so keen to hear your views. Thanks!
Everyone is trying to get on the government solar rebate train and under the new scheme, no one will sign a contract or approve installation untill they get rebate eligible number. Solar companies and installers in Victoria are pretty upset now.
It’s always pissing down in Victoria
As nico8amy mentioned, the way the solar rebate in Victoria has been implemented means the industry has been stop start because only a certain number of people can claim a rebate each month, there hasn't been enough rebates each month to keep up with the demand so many installers have ran out of work and had to let workers go. The Vic government has just doubled the number of rebates available each month so hopefully this will smooth things out and get the industry back on track.
@donkcat: Thanks, that explains it.
If I had to forget about the rebate, would they install in Vic? Or any other recommendations for Vic anyone? I could possibly recover in 3-4 years (even without rebate), and also helps our future…
@emgee: what you can do in vic now is wait for a few more months for the demand to cool down, at the moment due to the embargo period between april-jun and monthly quota there're huge backlog demand that clogging the system, things might get a little bit better after a couple of months but over longer term the government will be likely to reduce annual quota to prevent further dent in the budget. Otherwise just engage an installer and do the roulette game every 2 weeks, probably you'll get a spot.
@emgee: People seem to be happy with sparkin energy here on ozbargain https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/474473
Keep in mind that price is before the Vic rebate, this is much better gear than the OP is offering.
@emgee: We can do it in VIC, but we aren't able to offer the local govt rebate. It's not worth the headache for us and it's an unreliable govt with broken system
You can email [email protected] for a detailed quote with your choice of products. Pls mention ozbargain and mention that you want a quot for Vic and you don't care about the local govt rebate
How much would the materials alone cost them?
Not in QLD, I believe?
Available in QLD as well. Please contact us via our website. Please mention about ozbargain
![[NSW] 6.6kw Solar Power Installation for $2399 @ solarpowernation](https://files.ozbargain.com.au/n/79/483479.jpg?h=92b97350)
Not exactly overwhelming postive reviews
https://www.solarquotes.com.au/installer-review/solar-power-…
Cheap gear/installs like this are the reason for so many bad solar stories/experiences