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Dell G5 15 5587 Gaming Laptop i5-8300H Quad Core 8GB DDR4 128GB SSD GTX 1060
Dell G3 i7-8750H/8GB/256GB/GTX 1050ti 4GB $1143.20, Dell G5 i5-8300H/8GB/128GB/GTX 1060 6GB $1299 @ Dell eBay
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Seems to be a Great deal.
It is quite good if you consider the individual parts especially the graphic cards
For anyone looking to spend less $ for a decent laptop without a dedicated GPU, the Lenovo E490 & E590 below are an excellent deal for $815 / $935:
E490, 8th Gen Intel Core i5-8265U (4C, 1.6 / 3.9GHz, 6MB) Win10 Home 64 14" FHD (1920x1080) IPS Integrated Intel UHD Graphics 8GBx1 256GB SSD M.2 PCIe NVMe
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/ThinkPad-E490-Notebook-8th-Gen-I…E590 8th Gen Intel Core i5-8265U (4C, 1.6 / 3.9GHz, 6MB) Win10 Pro 64 15.6" FHD (1920x1080) IPS Integrated Intel UHD Graphics 8GBx1 512GB SSD M.2 PCIe NVMe
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/ThinkPad-E590-Notebook-8th-Gen-I…Bought, thanks for sharing! My sister's laptop just died so this is great timing.
I was looking at those but then discovered this
Lenovo Ideapad 330 (15) Intel Core i7-8550U (4C, 1.8 / 4.0GHz, 8MB) Win10 Home 64 15.6" FHD (1920x1080) Anti-glare NVIDIA GeForce MX150 4GB GDDR5. RAM is 8GB total, 4GB Soldered + 4GB DIMM DDR4-2133 256GB SSD 81DE01QNAU
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Ideapad-330-40-15-41-Notebook-In…For $919.20 which is an absolute steal for those specs
What do you think about the lenovo yoga 730 15inch for the specs it has? I think that's a pretty good deal too for a gtx 1050 with touch screen features etc.
so $120 to double the SSD size only? Isn't that a bit iffy?
It's the 15.6" chassis & screen as well, vs the 14" for the E490.
oh good point, what a spud I am!
@blewey: The other big + for some on the E590 is the keypad. I know many who work in finance that won't consider a laptop without a keypad.
is it worth getting the 16gb for video edit or is this sufficient and upgradable later.
Depending on your video length and size/resolutions (FHD, 1440p or 4K?), 8GB might be enough for 1440p or lower?
The existing RAM occupies only one out of the two RAM slots according to the spec sheet, and as the RAM is easily upgradeable, you can always upgrade by adding on a stick of 8GB RAM later (and probably better to upgrade later if you don't need the RAM now, as DRAM prices are still expected to fall ~20-30% further this year).
even for 1080 you'd probably be going into swap too much with only 8gb, definitely minimum of 16.
Difference between E490 n E590 plz…?
Chassis / screen size / weight
The g5 is a lot larger and heavy with a superior cooling system. Meaning it will perform considerably better. But lugging it around will.be a lot harder.
hmmm on the g3, in the pics there is USB-C but in the port breakdown(and related pic) it's not there.
Any ideas?no use-c I checked in JB
I've heard in a review that the usb-c is for only the higher spec-ed customised variant/configuration..
Win pro and 512GB HDD …???
Do you think the $60 extra is worth it for i7?
I would go the extra amount for the i7
Also why does your link say Inspiron? I thought that was a different line?
Paying $100 more for Lenova E590 compared to E490 worth…?
It depends on your priority/preference of portability VS screen size/brightness (I think the E590 screen is slightly brighter).
The 590 also has a larger 512GB SSD, vs 256 for the 490.
Would this be better than my Xbox One X ?
Better than my ps4 pro ?I have never had a gaming pc, but keen to try one. Just want to make sure that whatever I get isn't a step down from the consoles.
It won't be better than either of those consoles.
GTX 1060 has around the same performance as Xbox One X GPU.
XOX has 9GB available video RAM though vs 4GB in this laptop.
Gaming laptops don't last. The two I had (a Dell and an Asus) both had their GPUs die on me. When you're paying $1000+ you expect them to last. I've since switched to console gaming as gaming laptops become outdated fairly quickly, can't be upgraded, and just aren't made to last. I'd never buy one again. A poor investment if you ask me. The amount of time I wasted fiddling with settings and tweaking things just to make games run well. You can't go wrong with the Xbox One X. Desktop gaming is not an option as I don't want to be encumbered by a hulking unit as I live between different countries. Portability is essential.
It's true. If wr could manage that much heat in such a small area for a long time, we would be over clocking our real gpus. Also they throttle in laptops because they get so hot.
The g5 has the same chasis type as the new alienwares though. It has duel vents under the GPU and CPU and a fan at the back for each. Probably one of the cheapest gaming laptops with the better ventalation system.
While in general I'd agree that gaming laptops aren't the best option, if you're moving a lot and tired to PC games they can be the only option.
I bought a Metabox 4-5 years ago for gaming while constantly being away for work, and have since been using it at home as my main pc, have not had any issues at all.
Sorry to hear about your bad experience, but I totally disagree. Gaming laptops CAN last just fine, but the cheap ones are definitely not as well built, or as well cooled….and they won't last as long.
The obvious alternative is a compact gaming desktop - something like the Hades Canyon NUC, or perhaps one of Zotac's tiny rigs. The bulkiest part of that setup is actually a full size keyboard.
yep, MSI GT70 with a 680m is still going strong. it's heavy as hell and currently thinking of getting a thinner/lighter RTX upgrade. If you're throwing it in a backpack every day I can understand why it wouldn't last, they're desktop replacements, not ultrabooks, treat them as such, give the fans a clean every 6 months or so and they'll go for years.
@FelixNZ: Mine were desktop replacements. I never took them out. I used cooling pads, better thermal paste, copper heatsink mods and even undervolted my CPU to keep temps as low as possible. I had to change my Asus GPU (replacements on eBay) twice before I couldn't be bothered anymore.
My brother's Asus laptop also had its GPU die.
Even if you can keep a gaming laptop for a few years, the GPU is without a doubt the most likely to fail on you first.
It's more or less the fear of the GPU failing after spending $1000 that stops me from getting another gaming laptop. It's something I'd rather not worry about. I don't have that fear with consoles.
I've since been using my old XPS M1330 with integrated graphics with an SSD for my light PC use. I'll be looking to upgrade soon, but I'll definitely be getting another laptop with integrated graphics even if I'd benefit from Play Anywhere as an Xbox owner.
as with desktop, you need to clean the dust inside plus apply thermal paste every now and then. I have alienware m14x from 6 years ago, still running fine (except for battery of course).
A laptop with a dedicated GPU is a very different device to a current gen console. You won't get 4K 30fps on these laptops- You will get more like a 1080p 60fps experience and you can do a lot more on these than a console. If you are keen to try PC gaming I wouldn't recommend a laptop unless you are a uni student or have very little living space because desktop PCs are generally much better bang for buck and offer a much higher quality gaming experience outside of those situations.
Got bored and couldn't sleep so smashed out the below
Xbox One X / PS4 Pro
Pros
- 4k (checkerboarded on the ps4 pro)
- Great exclusives
- Very simple to set up, tech-illiterate friendly
- everything in the box minus the TV
- Fairly portable
Cons
- typically 30fps, 60fps in some less demanding or very well optimised titles
- Have to pay to play online most of the time in the form of a subscription fee. That's disgusting
- Can't play future games on this console or bring your current games forward without paying
- Forced to upgrade to latest and greatest console to play newer games
- Can only use PS4 controller on PS4
- Very basic computing tasks like spotify and a browser
- Price of games isn't great. Can always find good preorder deals but preordering is always a risk these days
- Most games don't have graphical settings
- Limited storage, even with an upgraded drive can typically only store a few games
PC
Pros
- 720p30 all the way up to 3840p144 and everything in between at whatever aspect ratio you need
- Can dial in your graphics settings manually; can prioritise fidelity or framerate
- Great exclusives
- Windows is pretty easy to use even if you're a mac person
- Buy the exact parts you want
- Can play pretty much any game that has ever come out on PC, there is no PC One X or PC 4
- Amazing value considering what you can do with it; will run excel, 40 ozbargain tabs, and photoshop while you're in queue for an Apex game
- Can replace parts out as needed; graphics cards after a few years, expanded storage
- Cheap games. Humblebundle.com, fanatical.com, reddit.com/r/gamedeals. Fingers crossed steam sales become god tier again one day
- Don't need to pay a single cent to play your games online, unless a particular game has a subscription fee
- Use any controller from any console ever created. If it's got a weird connector you will need some sort of adapter for it
- Depending on how much storage you choose you can have dozens and dozens of games installed on top of movies and other media
Cons
- Not portable at all in most cases (you can build small but 95% of builds are big)
- Not as plug an play as a console; need to build and set up OS or buy, then set up game launchers, discord etc
- Issues can arise that you would never have to deal with on a console. Could be anything from BIOS, OS, drivers, audio, peripherals, power supply or other internal hardware
- Typically used primarily at a desk; you can plug them into TV's and use something like Steam Big Picture but controlling the operating system is a lot easier with a mouse and keyboard set up.
Laptop
Less Ranty now
Pros
- Mega portable
- Can dial in your graphics settings manually; can prioritise fidelity or framerate
- Great exclusives
- Windows is pretty easy to use even if you're a mac person
- Can play pretty much any game that has ever come out on PC, there is no PC One X or PC 4
- Amazing value considering what you can do with it; will run excel, 40 ozbargain tabs, and photoshop while you're in queue for an Apex game
- Cheap games. Humblebundle.com, fanatical.com, reddit.com/r/gamedeals. Fingers crossed steam sales become god tier again one day
- Don't need to pay a single cent to play your games online, unless a particular game has a subscription fee
- Use any controller from any console ever created. If it's got a weird connector you will need some sort of adapter for it
- Depending on how much storage you choose you can have dozens and dozens of games installed on top of movies and other media
Cons
- Usually limited to 1080p. Not a massive dealbreaker but if you're used to 4K then this is obviously a downgrade
- Not as plug an play as a console; need to set up game launchers, discord etc
- Issues can arise that you would never have to deal with on a console. Could be anything from BIOS, OS, drivers, audio, peripherals, power supply or other internal hardware
- Typically used primarily at a desk; you can plug them into TV's and use something like Steam Big Picture but controlling the operating system is a lot easier with a mouse and keyboard set up.
- Can't upgrade the major components on most laptops
Thanks very much for the detailed info.
You mentioned Great exclusives for PC .
I'm keen to understand what I have been missing here as a console gamer for many years (besides the obvious, not having as good graphics, especially when they don't release a substantial console upgrade for a few years).What are a few of the 'Great exclusives' for PC ?
I honestly though PC had no exclusives except for games where you need a keyboard to play them properly.
This is sort of what I mean, you will rarely find a circumstance where something is only on PC because of a situation like Sony only wanting this game to be on their console or Microsoft only wanting it to be on their console for $$$$. If something is only on PC it's because it just didn't make any sense in its design at the time it was made to be on console. Basically every strategy game, simulation, hardcore first person shooters, MMOs and MOBAs. In many cases the PC version of a console game is a lot better but there are bad ports here and there.
Tons of games are pc exclusives, from games that would work only with keyboard + mouse, like an RTS like Stellaris, to games that are too small/niche to release on consoles, or even games that can be played on an emulator, like classic n64 or ps1 games.
There are lots of MMOs that are pc only too.
I thinks this laptop is overhearts then other 8th i7
If you want to buy that one make sure check review.
I dont get it, the xps 15 has the same specs yet its 2300? Am I missing something here?
Portability, screen (4k) and build quality to name a few.
Well. Build quality is probably the same. These are made to be gaming laptops. Not pretty looking lightweight ultra books.
Build quality generally refers to the materials too, of which is very different to the ultra lightweight XPS models.
Coolkid:
Beyond the same specs every machine has, you pay for the engineering, high-end materials and then some extra markup on the high-end designs.
Many dont have an option.
I carry an XPS 15 everywhere i go, no way in hell i would be able to deal with the weight or would be caought dead in front of my clients with this ugly monstrosity.@Danthemanz: Yea thats a good point, I feel like the xps is pretty 'sexy' and fun to use. It may not be a powerhouse but it does what its meant to do.
And it does not feel tacky and cheap at all like you mentioned.
These gaming laptops are indeed ugly af. Thanks for the reply mate.
@Danthemanz: Yeah, well you don't have a gaming laptop. You have an expensive laptop that looks pretty and is lightweight, like a mac. You won't get the same performance in a XPS twice as expensive as the fatty g5, because an xps will throttle like nobodies watching.
Its really up to what you want to use it for. This is a heavy monstrosity for sure. But the XPS won't even come close to this after 5minutes of any modern game.
Build quality wise, they will be made in the same factory, using generic parts, like every dell. Maybe you like metal more, it doesn't really affect anything except aesthetics though.
The XPS is quite a bit thinner, lighter and has all-metal body. It also has options for a 4K screen, and has a different (better) trackpad and keyboard. Essentially, you're paying extra for the higher grade materials and the clever packaging.
thanks mate, yea ok that makes a lot of sense. I agree using an XPS feels absolutely fabulous. Operating the laptop feels like second nature. So yea it does make sense, thanks for the explanation.
A fairly good review here for the G3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLQTKwY-vJI
It seems the G3 doesn't throttle too much and will still get similar performance compared to the G5/G7 with similar spec, but it'll run hotter as well (while being slightly thinner/"portable").
If one is into multi-core applications or seeking higher multi-core performance, the $56 higher cost of the listed i7-8750H model by OP is a worthwhile upgrade from the i5-8300H model (mentioned here).
What kind of tasks require higher multi-core performance? Does having many applications open at once require that or is that more RAM?
One of the most common usage scenarios would be video editing/production. While in other cases, it'll be dependant on the softwares, in terms how many cores/threads they can take advantage of.
Most general softwares nowadays still utilise <4 cores/threads (without going into professional softwares usage scenarios, eg AutoCAD, scientific simulations etc, which often you'd know about it if you use them).
Considering the limitation of laptop gaming (especially for the ones listed), 4 cores/threads will be very sufficient in terms of performance. Having said that, the Core i7 also has higher lower-core-count boost clocks for gaming. If I personally have to pick, I'd go with the i7-8750H due to overall better value in terms of whole product cost, but will undervolt the CPU.
I did consider this, but i changed my mind after reading reviews like this:
Issues on newly bought G5 5587Just to clarify. He has bought ram and an SSD and they are not compatible with the laptop. The stuff that came with the laptop was fine.
I also have a g5 in which I have placed a new SSD and put more ram in as well with no issues.
Is it just me or are the bezels on the G5 the size of Russia?
Pretty much prevented me from biting the bullet.
Seems cheaper than the metabox promo atm though!
Who looks at the bezels when you're playing a game?
Dell's G series laptops (and the G3 and G5 in particular) are all about bang for buck - they're not going for style points, it's all about getting as much gaming horsepower as possible at an appealing price point.
If you want a gaming rig that's also thin and stylish, they're much more expensive.
The bezels on these cheaper laptops are too thick
I have a Dell Inspiron with 15 (7567) with the 1050ti, would it be worth upgrading to the 1060?
Benchmarks suggest the 1060 Max-Q is about 25% more powerful than the 1050Ti. Depends on the games you play, the display you're using and the change-over cost to decide if the upgrade is worthwhile.
I have last year's version of G5 with 256GB SSD and GTX 1050ti. Laptop is not bad, but the screen isn't that good. Not very bright and thick bezels. Also quite heavy and fans pretty noisy, they kick in mainly during games. I use it mainly for work and occasional game. Screen is matt so no reflection and good for work.
Sadly no USB-C. Paid under 1000 bucks so can't complain.I don't know about your experiences - but for most dedicated graphics gaming machines, the fans typically kick in during games.
I got my laptop prior to christmas (black friday sales), and can recommend the machine as highly upgradeable. I have changed the RAM and converted the HDD to a 1TB SSD (during the samsung cashback promotions)
Whats the difference between G3 and G7? (from what i can see its just the graphics card. Is it worth an extra 200 or so?
What do people think of one of these versus a Metabox laptop? I haven't dealt with Metabox before but they seem competitively priced.
eg. https://www.metabox.com.au/store/b240/Metabox-Alpha-N850EK-L…
They seem to be very competitive price wise and you can get 3 year platinum warranty (home pick up) for $75 (recent promo) but I didn't feel like taking a chance with spending so much. I stuck with the major manufacturer this time (Lenovo/Dell,HP) as I think in case something goes wrong the companies having enterprise grade line up and support may be better to deal with than say Metabox/MSI/ even Razer.
That's just my opinion, people have had positive and negative feedback for Metabox like any other manufacturer. Do note that Alpha series are plastic build, Prime series is full aluminium. Good luck deciding.
I picked up a y530. For anyone whos interested - here are the specs.
Y530- i7 8750H, 16GB RAM 2666MHz, 256GBPCIe, GTX 1060 6GB, 144 Hz 300 nits display.
Got on online chat with Lenovo Sales for a good quote, negotiated a bit and got quoted $1839. Realized Shopback had 15% cashboack for Lenovo (Now 12%) with cashback its $1564 which I think is a great price for the specs.
That sounds like a pretty good deal! Do you know if there is a second RAM and HHD slot for another SSD on this model?
Around Chinese New Year they had similar specs but with GTX 1050 4GB instead of GTX 1060 and 250 nits display for $1135 after 20% ebay promo. Same processor and Ram. Also had 128 SSD + 1TB SATA. $429 difference for the gaming card is quite big.
Well, I think the 300nits 144Hz display and 1060 will add up to the pric difference. but yah 1050 ones wre good deals for the price.
Hey man was wondering what's the process after the quote. Like how do you get shopback after the quote? I received a quote for an accessory in my email and it doesn't have a link. Not sure how to get shopback.
You will need to create a Shopback account. https://www.shopback.com.au
After that close all Lenovo browser sessions. and go to Shopback and clic on Lenovo from there. https://www.shopback.com.au/search?q=lenovo
Then on Lenovo website login to your account (they will have created an account for you already with your email). Go to Account >> Quotes and click on your quote and click "Cnvert to Order".After the purchase goes hrough you will receive a mail from Shopback saying that your ashback will be availabl in som days. In my case it is May 3.
So takes roughly 2 months!
Yes it has 2 RAM slots and an empty HDD space. I am planning to add on a SSD and another 16GB RAM. :-)
I'm tossing up between a few models of the G series.
Will the G3 with i5 8300H, 128GB SSD + 1TB HDD, 1050Ti be sufficient for productivity and medium gaming? (Overwatch, Apex etc). It's only $1089 after coupon.
The G5 version is basically the same thing but with 1060 and it's $210 more…Is that worth it? Gaming is not a top priority for me.
Or is the G3 version with i7 better value at $1149? For $60 more for better CPU but only 256gb SSD and no HDD.
What do you guys think? I'm more tossing up between the two G3 options I think. But is the G5 that much better to warrant the big price increase?
Thanks
If gaming isnt a priority go with the g3 for sure. It's easier to lug around.
If you are playing for hours at a time, multiple times a week, the g5 has much better cooling and will outperform the g3.
Does anyone think these will get cheaper throughout the year? I won't need one till midyear
and kind of feel like i need an XPS for my needs and it seems expensive, if the G3 had usb c and hdmi I would proabbly grab it now. The screens on the 3 and 5 looked average though when i saw them in the flesh and the 3 doesn't have usb C? Anyone have a good alternative?
Grabbed the G5 1060 last minute -
Is a fresh reinstall enough to get these off when it arrives? (assuming the windows stuff is bloatware or spyware…)
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Good price for the 1060