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[eBay Plus] Cullector Ultra Efficient Shower System $71.10 Delivered @ Water Saving Showers Australia eBay

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[eBay Plus] Cullector Ultra Efficient Shower System $71.10 Delivered @ Water Saving Showers Australia eBay
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The Cullector was the ABC New Inventors Episode Award Winner but it has not been retested to the latest WELS & WaterMark standards because of the cost involved. The inventor wants to sell his patent and business and he has discounted the Cullector to clear stock. I believe $71.10 delivered achieved with the 10% off eBay Plus sale is a historical low price.

Cullector Handheld: https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/143044972018
Cullector Overhead: https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/143044972765

The multi award winning Cullector combines several water saving features into one simple self powered unit.

It's a great Australian invention made from chrome plated brass and designed to save water, power, money and the environment without sacrificing comfort. Buy direct from the inventor.

  • Collect it. Collect up to 5 litres of the fresh water normally wasted during warm up time.
  • Use it: Use the collected fresh water to create a stronger fuller flow.
  • Time it. After 4 to 5 minutes all of the collected water has been used and a gentle pulse in the shower lets you know time is up.
  • Pause it. You can pause your shower at any time to soap up or shampoo without needing to adjust the taps.
  • Low flow. Experience a full flow shower and only use 6.6 litres of water per minute.
  • Easy DIY. It’s super easy to install, no drilling and no plumber required.
  • 10-year guarantee.
  • 30-day return.

Installation

The Cullector™ is an easy no drill DIY retrofit. Everything you need comes in the box. The Cullector simply attaches to your existing shower outlet. No drilling and no plumber required.

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  • Hinee on 15/02/2019 - 10:32
    +21

    I've seen these posted since the very first deal and always liked the concept. With these being sold at cost price the bargain cannot be denied - just may not be suitable for everyone. I'm disappointed a grassroots garage inventor with a quality idea has had to sell up purely thanks to red tape. Hope this deal is popular!

    • alvian on 15/02/2019 - 10:38
      +13

      You comment expressed my sentiment exactly. Posting this deal is my (insignificantly small) way of supporting the inventor Peter Cullin.

  • samfisher5986 on 15/02/2019 - 10:50
    -1

    Seems like the 5L example is a little high though.

    10 seconds would be 1.5L, I can't imagine people are waiting for it to warm up any longer then that.

    Hard to compare but I imagine a 7.5L SatinJet could be equal or better for shower experience. This is only 6.8L/M

    • OZBMate8911 on 15/02/2019 - 11:09
      +18

      The shower in our townhouse is at the opposite end of the house to the water heater. It takes about ~60s to come up to temp. The last unit we were in was also around ~30s. Doesn't seem too unrealistic.

      • samfisher5986 on 15/02/2019 - 11:19
        +1

        Wow

        At 60 seconds you basically need this product.

        Seems like you also get 60 seconds of wasted hot water as well, as its sitting in the pipes going cold very quickly after you've showered.

        • OZBMate8911 on 15/02/2019 - 11:24

          I know - shame I don't own the place!

          • [Deactivated] on 15/02/2019 - 11:27

            @OZBMate8911: It depends whether you are using gas/electric heater. Gas heater (which uses fire) warms up almost instantly. The time it takes is to push the cold water from the pipe to the shower.

            If you live in large apartment with centralised gas water heater, it will take longer than if you live in a house with own gas heater.

            If you live in large apartment with centralised electric heater, then buy this.

      • dufflover on 15/02/2019 - 13:08

        I'm in a townhouse with instant gas heater and it's about 30sec. To get 10 seconds is like stored hot water or a very short run from the heater.

        But I can't use this though given we have the classic (and bloody annoying) "hot-cold-hot" thing with our heater and showerhead combo atm with no further restrictor to remove. So a deliberately low rate shower head isn't going to work …

        • Jalif on 16/02/2019 - 07:44

          Your water heater is undersized.

          Removing the restrictors would actually have the opposite effect and make the effect worse.

          Buy a more efficient shower head and you might be able to minimise it.

      • Twinkletoes Terry on 15/02/2019 - 16:39
        +3

        Just as a suggestion, run the hot water at a slowish rate from the basin first until it warms up then switch the shower on.

    • placard on 15/02/2019 - 11:10
      +3

      Nothing beats the showering experience of a Methven Kiri Satinjet!!

      • djkelly69 on 15/02/2019 - 11:44
        +9

        A Meth den king's private jet??

      • 1Kenobi on 15/02/2019 - 15:42

        are they good
        any link to a deal / good price?

        • samfisher5986 on 15/02/2019 - 15:46
          +2

          Bunnings have a selection of them.

          Not cheap, but worth it.

          • Ulysses31 on 15/02/2019 - 23:27

            @samfisher5986: Got 2 free from Melbourne water 5++ years ago. Took them with us, two moves. Diehard fan!

      • dcash on 15/02/2019 - 20:37

        Not really. I bought one a couple of years ago based on the rave reviews, only to discover it's little more than a glorified "misting" shower. It makes a huge mess with little water, but is not overly effective for washing oneself. I kept the hose and replaced the shower head with a knock off Grohe with a regular spray pattern; way more functional.

        • Jalif on 16/02/2019 - 07:45

          Where did you buy the knock off Grohe?

          • dcash on 16/02/2019 - 19:10

            @Jalif: Echo Bay — from China

      • muppet on 16/02/2019 - 10:25
        +1

        I used to love Satinjet. Used it for 14 years until the leak on the shower head was wasting too much water. Recently tried the Methven adjustable vjet and I'm in love. I know Satinjet is awesome but comparing it to the vjet is night and day. I would replace my new satinjet head in the guest bathroom with a vjet too had I not been such a frugal person. The vjet stream feels so silky and soft it's amazing, and it's variably adjustable from 100% normal stream to 100% vjet stream and anywhere inbetween - it's a sliding adjustment.

    • hoxygt on 15/02/2019 - 12:41

      Imagine it! Happens at heaps of places I've lived in older style Hotels with a single boiler are a classic for long warm up times.

  • Bellpop on 15/02/2019 - 10:54
    +3

    Plus vote for sad story

  • videoman on 15/02/2019 - 11:00
    +9

    I prefer the Commando 450.

    • lachhelix on 15/02/2019 - 11:05
      +3

      Low flow?? I don't like the sound of that

    • vipersnews on 15/02/2019 - 14:02
      +2

      The Serbians are fanatical about their showers

  • cnut on 15/02/2019 - 11:14
    +6

    Where can I get one that’s highly inefficient?

    I hate water saving ones that don’t cover my sexy body adequately. And I take quick showers so I don’t waste much anyways.

    • samfisher5986 on 15/02/2019 - 11:21

      Get a 9L Satinjet

      • cnut on 15/02/2019 - 11:25

        Aight.

        I once ran a garden hose through the bathroom window, tied to my actual shower head because it had much better pressure. 😎

        cnut on 15/02/2019 - 11:25 (Collapsed - Offtopic. Show)
        • HighAndDry on 15/02/2019 - 11:33
          +9

          Bonus, if you use a long enough garden hose you won't even have to pay for the water!

          • cnut on 15/02/2019 - 11:39
            +13

            @HighAndDry: Funny you say that, because I’ve been using my neighbour’s hose for a while since it’s in a more convenient location.

            He knows about it. So I sometimes wash his car randomly.

            I asked him the other day if I could use it and he said “why are you asking me? You use it all the time anyway.”

            “Yeah, but you’re home now…”

            • HighAndDry on 15/02/2019 - 11:41

              @cnut: I need a neighbour like you. The amount of money I spend on carwashes (even though I try to wash it myself whenever I can) would more than make up for any (literally any) amount of water you could use.

              • cnut on 15/02/2019 - 12:07
                +1

                @HighAndDry: It’s the least I can do for using his hose whevever I need it. I’m super lucky to have really good neighbours that I get along with really well.

            • [Deactivated] on 15/02/2019 - 12:27
              +6

              @cnut: Uesr nmae cehcks otu.

    • ColPow11 on 15/02/2019 - 16:32
      +1

      I have just installed a Methven somethingorother and had to remove 4 or 5 inline water restrictors to get the flow rate we wanted. It was not hard - most are 'filters'. One of the two in the showerhead proper did require a power drill to ream out, but any DIYer can do it.

      Buy the showerhead you like, and remove or ream the restrictors to get the flow you want.

  • [Deactivated] on 15/02/2019 - 11:27
    +5

    What, this doesn't comply with Australian standards designed to complicate the lives and businesses of thinking people who have the ability to make up their own minds? Why would anyone buy it then? Plot twist, I choose to live life on the edge with all my imported Hahnsgrohe taps that also are not approved to Australian standards yet make the dodgy (approved) Chinese stuff look like socks attached to the end of a hose. Next thing you know people will be buying unapproved Xiaomi power boards.

    [Deactivated] on 15/02/2019 - 11:27 (Collapsed - Offtopic. Show)
    • samfisher5986 on 15/02/2019 - 11:34
      +2

      The Australian standards are a good thing.

      Its a shame there is not an easier pathway for inventors though.

      I would have thought there would be grant programs or something.

      • HighAndDry on 15/02/2019 - 11:42
        +4

        The Australian standards are a good thing.

        Hard disagree. The standards don't actually do anything because about 99% of water used is used in agriculture, other primary production, or commercial/business activities. Even if people completely stopped taking showers, you'd see negligible water savings. Merely decreasing the water used in showers? Does nothing except trick people like you into feeling better.

        • samfisher5986 on 15/02/2019 - 11:53
          +1

          The Australian standards cover a lot more then just water use.

          Also throwing your hands up to all problems and saying X is using more then me so I don't have to do anything, is not going to help global warming and other problems.

          I can only assume you throw your plastic into the ocean because big companies and other countries contaminate more then we do.

          • HighAndDry on 15/02/2019 - 11:56

            @samfisher5986:

            Also throwing your hands up to all problems and saying X is using more then me so I don't have to do anything, is not going to help global warming and other problems.

            This isn't about me throwing up my hands. People can still absolutely choose, voluntarily, to buy water-saving appliances and fittings. But the government shouldn't be imposing standards which have no practical benefit, at the expense of the people they're supposedly "helping".

            I can only assume you throw your plastic into the ocean because big companies and other countries contaminate more then we do.

            What part of the difference between "government standards" and not "voluntary individual action" is so hard for you to understand?

            • samfisher5986 on 15/02/2019 - 11:58
              +1

              @HighAndDry: Again you are saying

              "The government shouldn't impose limitations on me that have no major impact overall"

              Every single person in Australia using an energy efficient shower head makes enough of a difference for it to be a great thing.

              • HighAndDry on 15/02/2019 - 11:59
                -4

                @samfisher5986: No it doesn't - households account for about 13% of water usage. If the government wanted to make a difference, they'd focus on standards for primary production. Christ, do you go into comments, read them, ignore them, and then just regurgitate whatever fluffy platitude you last read on social media?

                • samfisher5986 on 15/02/2019 - 12:00
                  +1

                  @HighAndDry: Again, you are putting all blame on everyone but yourself, just so you can selfishly do whatever you want.

                  Yes it would be nice if big business's had more regulation, but that doesn't mean you can do whatever you want in the meantime.

                      • HighAndDry on 15/02/2019 - 13:09
                        +2

                        @samfisher5986: Christ kid, you're still not getting it. I'm not against water conservation - I use a water-saving showerhead at home. I'm against government-mandated water saving features which don't actually make a significant difference, because I see it as being insufficient to justify the limitation on personal liberty that a government mandate represents.

                        • samfisher5986 on 15/02/2019 - 13:12
                          -2

                          @HighAndDry: Of course you are against water conservation.

                          By not mandating water saving features, everyone will be using a lot more water.

                          I think you forget about the regions in Australia that are currently, or in the past have been in severe drought.

                          Showers do make a difference and without mandating water saving features there will be a lot of shower heads that use a lot more then 9L a minute.

                          • HighAndDry on 15/02/2019 - 13:18

                            @samfisher5986:

                            Of course you are against water conservation.

                            By not mandating water saving features, everyone will be using a lot more water.

                            Patently false because I was using water-saving showerheads before they were mandated.

                            • samfisher5986 on 15/02/2019 - 13:41

                              @HighAndDry: So what? You are not everyone.

                              lets get rid of helmets and everything else as well, because if you do it safely, everyone else will too right?

                              We have people on ozbargain who take the flow restricter out of 9L/M shower heads.

                              The average person doesn't do that, but they will buy shower heads that use more then 9L/M

                              • c0balt on 15/02/2019 - 13:58
                                +1

                                @samfisher5986: It's like when vegans go around telling people meat is murder, you won't convince people that your subjective way is right if you advocate for a shower gestapo - you will only turn more people against your cause.

                                I'll be having an extra long shower now, because I pay for my water and because I like having long showers with a high pressure head more than I like water conservation. Sure I could use less, but I'm already at less than 140L/day and that's conserving enough.

                              • HighAndDry on 15/02/2019 - 13:58

                                @samfisher5986:

                                So what? You are not everyone.

                                You seem to have a problem with logic. If you say "everyone does XYZ" - if one person doesn't do it, you're already wrong.

                                We have people on ozbargain who take the flow restricter out of 9L/M shower heads.

                                Okay, and?

                                By your logic we should have laws that everyone has to recycle too. It'd be idiotic.

                                • samfisher5986 on 15/02/2019 - 14:05
                                  -2

                                  @HighAndDry: Are you really going to be that obtuse?

                                  Following your logic "nobody" and "everyone" can never be used because you can't ask every single person on this planet.

                                  Its clear you are a very selfish person who has no regard for the fact that we are a drought affected country.

                                  The fact that you are relying on people to self regulate is the very reason we have an issue with global warming right now.

                                  People are not going to solve the problem ourselves, we've had decades to do it.

                                  You argue that big companies are using up all the water, well you should realise that those companies are run by people who are not self regulating.

                                  Yet people self regulating seems to be the solution you post every time.

                      • burningrage on 15/02/2019 - 14:15
                        +1

                        @samfisher5986: Aieee… personal attack! I thought this is ferbotten?

                  • Sxio on 15/02/2019 - 14:41

                    @Skinnerr: Yeah. It's ridiculous. Every thread he trolls with his bullshit. I don't get why people reply to him, it's like giving a fire oxygen.

                    • HighAndDry on 15/02/2019 - 14:46

                      @Sxio: Your fanclub membership card is in the mail.

                • burningrage on 15/02/2019 - 14:13

                  @HighAndDry: You know, I don't agree with H&A but I sure agree with H&A a lot here.

                  Primary production does use a lot more water than ordinary people and somehow linking this to throwing plastic in ocean is damn straight unfair.

                  Soon people will start linking this to having kids.

                  • samfisher5986 on 15/02/2019 - 14:18
                    -1

                    @burningrage: Yes it does use a lot more water.
                    And yes big companies and other countries pollute a lot more then we do.

                    But that doesn't change what is right and wrong for consumers.

                    The best you can do is do the right thing, for example use a water efficient shower head, and hope that big companies are forced to save more water in the future.

                    Otherwise consumers might as well literally do anything we want, Australia on its own is too small to save the planet, and consumers in Australia are too small to save the country from running out of water.

        • [Deactivated] on 15/02/2019 - 12:18
          +3

          In my case with quality German (EU approved) taps, the AU standard is designed to simply restrict the local market and make some government money and that's about it.

          • gnarkill on 15/02/2019 - 14:27

            @[Deactivated]: Just to chime in on this, the costs and benefits are evauated and need to show significant bcr for this type of regulation. It's all publicly consulted on. The high registration is a requirement that the program needs to be entirely self funded. The costs are still passed through to the public through product costs but it creates a barrier to market for smaller companies like this / regular product revision.

        • brendanm on 15/02/2019 - 18:11

          This is exactly the same as the infinite emmisions controls placed on cars because of "climate change". It is a tiny drop in the ocean compared to all the buses, trains, heavy machinery, planes, cargo ships etc that belch out crap constantly. As usual, it's the everyday person who gets shafted over it.

      • Moderatormoocher on 15/02/2019 - 15:35

        While discussion is fine, please refrain from attacking other users when there is a disagreement. Users who ignore this warning will be banned.

        • [Deactivated] on 15/02/2019 - 17:54

          It's hardly off topic if the item is selling cheap because it hasn't achieved meet Australian standardsv certification.

  • HighAndDry on 15/02/2019 - 11:32

    Sounds like a great idea for those who don't mind low(er) flow showers, but just one note of caution:

    10-year guarantee.

    This doesn't really mean much when:

    The inventor wants to sell his patent and business

    The ACL also doesn't apply (in this respect) because this is being sold at clearance prices and clearly marked as such.

    Slightly off-topic: This is a great example of the unintended (and usually ignored and unconsidered) consequences of a nanny-state, to all those who think the government should be involved in absolutely everything "for our own good".

    • justtoreply on 15/02/2019 - 11:41
      +3

      On your last point, look that may have happened for this particular person and that sucks, but standards are set to regulate the industry as a whole. Presumably the decision will move the remaining 99.9% of the market towards greater efficiency. Hence it's a good decision on the whole.

      Or are we all forgetting that fridges & washing machines have had new ratings schemes applied when they became so good at electricity/water use that they were all "off the charts" on the old scheme? Should we have kept the old rating scheme if there was one manufacturer inconvenienced by it? Should we have allowed manufacturers to sell a product where efficiency wasn't confirmed? How would the buyer know they weren't being told BS about the product?

      It's sad for Peter, I hope he gets a lot for the patent (innovation deserves to be rewarded!) and I hope the product continues to live on and get traction.

      • HighAndDry on 15/02/2019 - 11:49
        +3

        And none of these have any real effect. It's a placebo, because household usage accounts for a fraction of a fraction of all water usage. Don't believe me? Go look it up at the ABS:

        https://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/[email protected]/mf/4610.0

        Total consumptive use of water in 2016-17 was 16,287 gigalitres

        That's the total. Households?

        and 1,909 gigalitres by households.

        That's about 13%. Say your "standards" save a whopping 5% on household usage. How much does that account for? Oh. Just 0.7% of all water usage. How about focusing on the other 87% of water actually used instead?

        • abb on 15/02/2019 - 16:38
          +1

          And if you look at the detailed breakdown, the water used by all industries except agriculture combined is actually less than households.

          Agriculture uses a (profanity) of water. Funny how that happens when you grow rice & cotton in a desert!

          edit: I re-read the summary. It sounds like industry uses more than households, but that's not how it looks in Figure 4 here - https://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/[email protected]/Latestproducts/4610…

          In any case, agriculture is really where the water efficiency low hanging fruit is likely to be found.

          (edit 2: household efficiency is still a good thing, and probably necessary to legislate to some degree, because there are regions with limited drinking water supply millions of houses)

          • HighAndDry on 15/02/2019 - 16:58

            @abb:

            Agriculture uses a (profanity) of water. Funny how that happens when you grow rice & cotton in a desert!

            This is pretty much my point. If the government was actually serious about conserving water, instead of feel-good moves like limiting showerhead flow-rates, regulating (or just banning) crazily water-intensive agriculture would be infinitely* more effective.

            *figuratively, not literally.

            • justtoreply on 15/02/2019 - 18:26

              @HighAndDry: You were talking about government regulation and it was reasonable to assume you were talking about the product in this thread. Ie: household usage.

              So you got pretty argumentative over "my" standards when all I did was respond to what you wrote in the context of the post.

              Let's agree notionally to tackle the big water usage areas but not pretend like we know everything. There's no way either of us are well enough informed on the bigger picture of agriculture, economy, (safely) feeding Australians, historical reasons for farming locations, impacts of climate change, etc etc. Secondly, why wouldn't you tackle household usage at the same time? It's not mutually exclusive.

            • justtoreply on 15/02/2019 - 18:34
              +1

              @HighAndDry: My real reason to respond to you in the first place is there are a large amount of warriors on here who present a wholly one-sided argument and then pretend that is all there is to it. There is a bigger picture. Acts, Regulations and Standards need to be (and not always are) set according to this bigger picture. Sure, there's a tonne of examples where the wrong thing has been done in these and could/should totally be rewound or fixed AFTER careful consideration of the consequences. Generally they are more right than wrong though.

              If I did my day job without complying with australian standards you'd be dead. Literally.

              I'm tired of hearing uninformed warriors preach total deregulation. Which may or may not be you, perhaps I'm making you cop it too much for everyone else's posts.

            • Pantagonist on 15/02/2019 - 18:56

              @HighAndDry: It seems kind of weird to compare the luxury of wasteful high pressure and flow showerheads with the agricultural industry that actually feeds, clothes and employs people, but that seems to be what you've done?

              I think improvements can be found on all sides, but with developments in showerhead water-saving technology there's negligible comfort/enjoyment difference between the water guzzlers of old and the modern heads that are becoming the norm.

              This should be happening in concert with discussions about whether Australia's cotton industry is sustainable long-term and efforts to improve water conservation in agricultural settings. It doesn't need to be a "one thing before the other" argument because the cost/benefit playing field isn't the same across the factors you're arguing between.

      • Speckled Jim on 16/02/2019 - 13:47

        I'd like to chime in with my experience.

        In 1987, myself and two others were sharing a small flat in Sydney. The hot water tank was located in a kitchen bench cupboard (so, 60l ? Very short anyway). Eventually, I'd had enough of the inevitable cold shower/shave situation.
        Purely for practical reasons — no desire to be a conservation warrior — I found a US-made low-flow shower head by Interbath that was the most efficient available at the time. Might have been 10.5l/min but don't quote me.
        That was 1988.

        One of the other flatmates didn't like it, so I put the old one back on. But I kept the Interbath and used it everywhere I lived until 2011. More recently I upgraded to a cheap (under $20) three-mode Bunnings unit that I've linked here before.

        So for me, it was never about saving the world, just having the hot water available. More recently as a property owner who has to pay water rates, it's also about reducing those costs wherever possible. Kitchen mixer and bathroom faucet are also WELS 4 star rated. Bunnings China-made toilet suite is 3.5/6l flush but you can adjust it even lower quite easily.

        My front garden tap is the only vulnerability as anyone can just come along and open it. I have another Bunnings solution to that, a detachable splined tap head, although anyone can spend $5 for the same thing and still use it.

        I know that Public Housing in most, if not all states were converting to low-flow stuff some years back. I don't know what tenants think of that, or if they've changed shower heads back to the old style, but some people just prefer that feel and spread of shower.
        I personally don't mind so long as it doesn't feel like a garden hose is assaulting my delicate areas.

  • justtoreply on 15/02/2019 - 11:39
    +4

    Aesthetically speaking, it's not for me.

  • go2home on 15/02/2019 - 11:40
    +10

    Clever! But ugly……

  • Hashstrid on 15/02/2019 - 11:40

    Why is it low flow? cant you just get the normal regular flow?

    • bargain_knight on 15/02/2019 - 12:56
      +3

      I think how it works is that it sucks water up from the bottle, but once the bottle is empty it sucks up air and mixes that in with the water. So the flow without water in the bottle is low- as it is mixed with air. But if you have water in the bottle then you get a full flow as you are mixing the water from the bottle with the tap flow to increase the amount of output.

      I think the selling point is you get a full flow shower but use low flow rates.

      I could be wrong, but that was my interpretation.

        • bargain_knight on 15/02/2019 - 15:32
          +4

          You're welcome to spend the time providing a better explanation.

        • brendanm on 15/02/2019 - 18:17

          Made perfect sense to me.

  • bamzero on 15/02/2019 - 11:58

    While it's a great idea, the problem I see with it is that with the control being so high up, there is no way my kids would be able to reach it.

    • dm01 on 15/02/2019 - 19:32
      +2

      Another water-saving feature!

  • lonix on 15/02/2019 - 12:14
    +1

    need to make a collector shower base, so you can use the water on the lawn.

  • thinkv on 15/02/2019 - 12:58

    Would the non handheld version have better pressure because it's a smaller head?

    • alvian on 15/02/2019 - 13:06

      You'll have to ask Peter Cullin. Don't think any buyer here would own both versions to compare. Or contact seller on eBay or call him

  • DEvok on 15/02/2019 - 13:13

    Wow almost 2000 clicks seems like this baby is popular and is going to sell it fast, I mean ozbaragined soon.

    • placard on 15/02/2019 - 14:04
      +1

      Which is strange - given every time it's previously been put on Ozbargain, it's not received well. What's changed this time around?

  • SpaceNinja on 15/02/2019 - 13:14

    upvoted, but real ozbargainers save water 100% of the water by avoiding shower.

  • pogichinoy on 15/02/2019 - 13:22
    +2

    Low flow?

    Where's the Commando 450?

    • c0balt on 15/02/2019 - 13:27
      +1

      Bathing Fusilli Jerry of course.

  • cyrax83 on 15/02/2019 - 13:23

    "Low flow"

    Noooooooo

  • watts on 15/02/2019 - 13:24

    Great concept but the cullecting feature is little beneifit for me unfortunately. HWS is right next to our ensuite so almost instant hot water and the kids take baths.

  • leiiv on 15/02/2019 - 13:36

    From the pictures and description, I don't get it why it is called ultra efficient?? Especially when compared to nebia

    • samfisher5986 on 15/02/2019 - 13:43

      Thats just a Satinjet really, which I assumed they had a patent for…

      The primary use of the shower head in OP is to conserve the water during warm up.

    • alvian on 15/02/2019 - 13:57

      When the Cullector was invented in 2006, it was ultra efficient compared to what were available?

  • [Deactivated] on 15/02/2019 - 13:51

    How many years have you tested this product for?

    For example a Netipot would get slightly mouldy after a year even if you have it aired out properly.

    I can't imagine there would be much airflow to allow the bottle to dry afterwards.

    I'm not trying to bash the product, but I have grave concerns about the safety of the product considering I use Neilmed sinus rinse all the time and even after taking good care of that product I still have to replace it every now and then. (It literally tells you to replace it every 3 months but I generally try to disinfect with boiling water and replace every 6 months or so). Does your product have a similar cleaning regime?

    Does your 10 year guarantee include replacements when mould potentially starts growing inside it? Or are there instructions to pass boiling water through the bottle to clean it. Although I don't think this is enough as most water heaters aren't allowed to go past a certain temperature now and make the water heater mix with cold unboiled water; unless you have a plumber that will override it for you illegally..

    There are a lot of micro-organisms in tap water, so this is my main concern with your product.

    Is there some kind of protective layer on it or something?

    • spaceflight on 15/02/2019 - 21:06
      +1

      For example a Netipot would get slightly mouldy after a year even if you have it aired out properly.

      A netipot is not sealed so is open to the atmosphere.

      but I have grave concerns about the safety of the product

      Grave concerns is overreacting a lot.

      The water container is basically sealed to the atmosphere (unlike your netipot) which will keep mould out.
      Tap water also has chloride in it which will prevent things growing in the sealed container.

      but I generally try to disinfect with boiling water

      Bleach is a great disinfectant.

      Does your 10 year guarantee include replacements when mould potentially starts growing inside it?

      Do water bottles come with this warranty.

      There are a lot of micro-organisms in tap water, so this is my main concern with your product.

      Maybe unchlorinated water.
      Chlorine is a safe way to protect drinking water supplies from contamination against harmful micro-organisms.

      Do you dismantle and dry your current shower head after every time you use it?
      Your current shower head will retain moisture and mould could potentially grow.

      • [Deactivated] on 18/02/2019 - 12:39

        Sorry for the late reply:

        Um, no. lol.

        You do realise there is basically no air inside the pipes right? You can get mould growing inside there if there is some air though. Plus it's usually dark inside a pipe rather than inside this transparent bottle…

        The container is not really sealed at all, it needs to allow air to enter and exit for it to fill up…

        100% this will become mouldy over time. I'm surprised the OP hasn't replied, especially since they were online in the minutes after I posted…

        The levels of chlorine in the tap water isn't enough to prevent mould from forming…….. Otherwise we won't be buying pool cleaner.

        The only reason why the parts of the shower don't become mouldy is because it's usually copper up to the point. Copper has anti-bacterial properties. Of course the shower head is exposed to air and dries quickly, but this is a bloody bottle mate, which is apparently pseudo-sealed like you mentioned… It most likely won't dry at all.

        Surprised to see your upvotes, but I don't think you've thought it through thoroughly.

        Bleach can eat through certain types of plastic.

        I don't know about you but suppose you could unmount the product and clean it. There might still be areas around the seal which cannot be bleached. Plus most people throw away their old thermos or water bottle regularly due to this. I think as tempting as it might be, people won't throw away this $70+ water bottle that quickly and possibly result in consumers footing the bill with poor health outcomes.

        Even if consumers dispose of the product, then it will go to landfill because it is a mixed materials product, hardly a good outcome for the environment.

        Seriously this product should only really be guaranteed for 1 year. The rest of it doesn't really stand it's ground. How hot can the water inside that bottle reach? Who knows, why none of this is even mentioned. They don't have a FAQ. That's just bad.

        Your words, are essentially that this is basically comparable to a very expensive water bottle.

        Furthermore mould usually spreads and requires a source spore. Most people's water bottles don't come into contact with that sort of environment. Most showers doors do become slightly mildewy within a week. This is even after taking precautions of drying and keeping the fan on. Although I would hazard a guess that some showers become mouldy in a week if the owners are lazy, or are permanently mouldy as I have seen from visiting my neighbours.

        • alvian on 18/02/2019 - 13:31

          I'm surprised the OP hasn't replied, especially since they were online in the minutes after I posted

          OP is me. I am not a product rep and I do not own a Cullector prior to posting this deal. Since I know nothing about the mould issue I prefer to keep my virtual mouth shut than to put my virtual foot in it. Your questions should be directed to the inventor and owner of the business, Peter Cullin. Contact him via these methods and please do keep us informed.

          Copper has anti-bacterial properties

          Mould is not a type of bacteria, it is a fungus. Bacteria and fungi belong to different kingdoms. Mould is more closely related to us than bacteria.

        • spaceflight on 18/02/2019 - 20:53

          The container is not really sealed at all, it needs to allow air to enter and exit for it to fill up…

          It's basically sealed.
          There is no big hole in it that opens to the environment.

          As I said "basically sealed to the atmosphere (unlike your netipot)" which was a comparison to you netipot

          100% this will become mouldy over time.

          Which is wrong as there are lots of people who have these with having any mould in them. Probably 100%

          I'm surprised the OP hasn't replied, especially since they were online in the minutes after I posted…

          The op has no relationship to selling the product.

          The levels of chlorine in the tap water isn't enough to prevent mould from forming…….

          Of course it is, that's why it's there.
          Chlorine is added to water for the reason to kill and prevent microorganisms from growing.

          Otherwise we won't be buying pool cleaner.

          Again a swimming pool has a big hole in the top to let things in.

          I don't think you know how chlorine works but it doesn't stay in water forever as it turns back into a gas.
          Plus as it kills things is breaks down.

          It's impossible to have a pool and not keep adding chlorine for the reasons above.
          It is not because there is not enough chlorine in tap water.

          The only reason why the parts of the shower don't become mouldy is because it's usually copper up to the point

          You're completely wrong because copper piping is rarely used in houses now. Internal pipes are either PEX or PB.

          If you happen to have copper pipes I am sure your shower head has no copper in it.

          I don't think you've thought it through thoroughly.

          I think I've thought it through more than you have. Having a knowledge of how bleach works and what's used in plumbing helps.

          Plus most people throw away their old thermos or water bottle regularly due to this.

          They do?
          You might, I don't know anybody who does.

          How hot can the water inside that bottle reach? Who knows

          I do.
          That's covered in AS3500.4-2003

          All new heated water installations shall deliver heated water not exceeding -
          (b) 50°C at the outlet of sanitary fixtures used primarily for personal hygiene purposes for all other situations.

          50 degrees is well below the limit for the type of plastic this is made from.

          Your words, are essentially that this is basically comparable to a very expensive water bottle.

          No they aren't.

          But your words do appear to be from someone who doesn't know what they are really taking about.

          Most showers doors do become slightly mildewy within a week

          No they don't, after a week the 3 in my house are still mould free.

  • Angelino on 15/02/2019 - 14:42
    +4

    I'm all for water-saving features and Australian inventions but if you have an instantaneous gas hot water system beware that you may have problems with shower heads that have flow rates of less than 9L/min. Recently had to replace my shower head because the low flow rates mean that the heater wouldn't work properly and ended up with fluctuating hot and cold showers. See information here: https://sahotwater.com.au/cold-showers.html

  • Black Hole on 15/02/2019 - 16:51

    I vote for high flow shower head; It is more flexible. I can dial it low and high depend on the stage of my shower.

  • mb403 on 15/02/2019 - 17:20

    Ended up getting the classic overhead shower off ebay for $19.95. Mentioned buy1, get 1 free.

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