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[NSW] AmEx 30% Back on Sydney Trains, Ferries, Light Rail
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Works out go be 14% off for me if I use this offer during peak hours on my trip as opposed to using my opal card. The gap closes even more since I get my opal top up’s for 5% off via WW eGiftcards.
Are you saying you can use wish or Woolworths e-gift cards to top up opal cards? Just asked Woolworths the other day and they said no.
That's bs; gift cards are a method of payment. You just can't earn Woolworths Rewards points on Opal top-ups, unlike Coles.
Then again, it's been a while since I last used a gift card to top up my Opal card at Woolies
@kerfuffle: I've never had issues topping up with egiftcards at my usual spots (Parramatta, Strathfield and Town Hall). I've been told that I can't scan my rewards card if I'm topping up over $40 but they scan it anyway. Not sure if they coded it into the system to not dish out points on top ups but I swipe it every time and can still get fuel vouchers out of it.
@YuMaNuMa: You can scan your rewards card, they won’t ask for it.
It just will get you a 4c off per litre rather than rewards points.
I did a week ago without problem.
T&C
Your Card or device can only be used to pay for one fare per trip, and the fare your Card will be charged is the same as a >standard peak Adult Opal fare for the same trip. Opal daily, weekly and Sunday travel caps are also applied, however other Opal >benefits (including, but not limited to, off-peak train fare discounts and weekly travel rewards) are not available with >contactless payments.
i think you cant get off peak fare on top of the 30% off, i would say if you are using bus or peak hour train fare all the time then you will be benefit.
I know that; what I'm saying is this offer means that you can get off-peak rates during peak hour as off-peak is 30% off
Okay I misunderstand what you mean, go and get a coffee now.
Where is the link to the deal? I can't see anything from Amex which outlines the cashback
Log into your account and see if it's there in your Offers.
Thanks for that, I only recently got my card so I was unfamiliar with the UI :)
It’s targetted like most Amex deals
@Maxdax: I didn't see it on my Amex app but found it online. So, check online and don't rely on the app only.
From Transport NSW website regarding contactless payments:
Contactless fares are now the same price as a standard (peak) Adult Opal fare for the same trip. Opal Daily, Weekly and Sunday travel caps are also applied, making contactless fares more attractive than before.
However some other Opal benefits such as Weekly Travel Rewards, Transfer Discounts, Off-peak train fare discounts, Trip Advantage and free access to Opal Park&Ride carparks are not available with contactless payments.
I guess the discount is only worthwhile if you would otherwise have to pay adult peak fares.
I'm having hard time in digesting your comment.
Are we saying that the AMEX discount only worthwhile for people that travels on peak fares?
I think @moocher is trying to say it's great if you've got a trip you'd need to pay full fare for. Otherwise, if you've got weekly rewards or any of the other discounts, you're better off using the Opal card
Are we saying that the AMEX discount only worthwhile for people that travels on peak fares?
Yup, for peak fares all the time.
The linked page is about contactless payments in general (using credit cards). It's saying that off-peak discounts and other some Opal benefits do not apply, which means that if you use a credit card, you will still pay peak fares during off-peak hours, and you won't get the weekly travel rewards where the 9th trip onwards for a week is half price.
Off-peak fares are 30% off, which is the same value as this Amex deal.
However, if you travel 10 times a week at peak time, on Opal you'll get an overall 10% off for the week (8 trips at 100% and 2 at 50%) , whereas with this Amex deal it's 30% off overall (assuming the total saving is under $25).
Your Card or device can only be used to pay for one fare per trip, and the fare your Card will be charged is the same as a standard peak Adult Opal fare for the same trip. Opal daily, weekly and Sunday travel caps are also applied, however other Opal benefits (including, but not limited to, off-peak train fare discounts and weekly travel rewards) are not available with contactless payments.
Awesome got it on all my cards
Got it on my qantas amex. Not my essentials one.
Got nothing
i also got nothing.. 2 cards.
Just did some simple maths and this offer saves you more compared to the weekly travel rewards if you only travel by train.
For example if your train fare is $3.57 per trip and take 10 trips per week
Weekly travel rewards = $3.57x8 + $1.785x2 = $32.13
AMEX deal = $3.57x10x0.7 = $24.99I got it on my AMEX. Thanks OP!
Is that off-peak fares or peak fares your calculations were based on?
For me, I do one off-peak trip at $3.53 and one peak trip at $5.05 per day for work at the moment
Peak fares from Town Hall to North Sydney.
And I got the single trip fare wrong. It’s only $3.54.
Correct numbers
Weekly travel rewards = $3.54x8 + $1.77x2 = $31.86
AMEX deal = $3.54x10x0.7 = $24.7822% off.
Obviously the savings will depend highly on your travel patterns (peak vs off peak) and how many transfers between different modes per day.
up to 25 bucks too so only works for a few weeks
Thanks for those calculations. Was just what I needed!
For me, I do one off-peak trip at $3.53 and one peak trip at $5.05 per day for work at the moment
Same for me, so we will save $3.29 each week for the next 4 weeks or so..
Can you please share how to get the 25% off Opal at Coles?
How do you get 25% off from Coles?
There's no way that's true …
Got an offer for helloworld, spend 350, get 50 back… instore only..
Works for the airtrain?
What airtrain? Do you mean airport line trains?
yes
Then the answer is yes; it doesn't exclude Airport Line trains
I would also like to know this (assuming you mean the Sydney Airport Link train). The airport station access fee is a killer, so would be good to get 30% off this.
EDIT: Hang on, T&Cs aren't clear whether the 30% off only applies to the 'fare' (excluding airport station access fee) or the total amount paid…
I'm going to assume it's the total amount paid i.e. fare plus station access fee
Total amount paid (At the end of the day/week, one final charge is made from all of your trips taken that day)
Better off buying disposable Opal card and leaving just enough to tap on (at least on the way to the airport)
I think they closed this loophole recently.
@L0zBargain: No, you can't tap off with a negative balance (of around $8 from memory) - there are now top up machines in the paid area of the airport if you forget to top up before your trip to the airport.
Can confirm it works for the airport stations.
I was charged $19.35 then got the statement credit of $5.81.
Doubt it, more likely it only applies to the underlying train fare and not the station access fee. You don't get a discount on the station access fee if you reach the weekly reward on Opal.
Also interested in this.
I'm headed to the Domestic Terminal today from Wynyard so can test but if anyone uses before then let us all know.
How did it go?
Will need to wait 24-48 hours to show up on statement.
did it work? Got to go to the International terminal next week :)
It works
got exited too early before realizing need to travel by 14/02/2019
and my airport travel is not until March…got exited too early
Where did you exit? :P
If using your phone to tap on/off, how would ticket inspector check to see if you have actually tapped on?
They scan your NFC chip in your phone?
Found it…
If asked, you must present the contactless card or device you tapped on or tapped off with to an Authorised Officer.
Authorised Officers patrol public transport services in groups of two or more and can be recognised by their distinctive uniform and badge. They will scan your card or device in your presence to confirm if you are using your card or device correctly.
Authorised Officers have the right to ask to see your ticket, which includes the card or device you tapped on with, at any time. If you cannot produce your ticket for inspection you may be fined up to $550.
When you pay your fare using a contactless card or device, the Opal reader applies a series of safety protocols including end-to-end encryption, to ensure contactless payments and fare compliance checks are processed in line with the Payment Card Industry Data Security Standards (PCI-DSS).
If an Authorised Officer scans your contactless payment card or device during a fare compliance check they can only see information they need to confirm that you have correctly tapped on or tapped off.
Are you thinking this might not be a great idea. Mobster dresses as 'authorised officer' and scans everyone with their special scanner while taking a note of CVV.
Don't know the answer to that, but there may be a receipt, which is more than if you used an Amex card.
Does anyone know if this works for Hills Buses? They use opal card as well
It literally says in the title Sydney Trains, Ferries, Light Rail …
Do you work for Sydney Trains?
Nope
Cheers OP! Found it on my account
For those using Opal card for regular commute with auto top-ups and confused like me on how to make use of this offer -
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You can use your Card, or mobile wallet enabled device ("device"), to make contactless payments on the following Transport for NSW services:
Sydney Trains
NSW TrainLink Intercity Opal rail services
Light rail
Sydney Ferries (excluding private ferry, fast ferry and Newcastle Ferries services)You must tap your Card or device on an Opal reader at the beginning and end of each trip, and both taps must be made using the same Card or device, and to which the offer is saved. If you begin your journey
by tapping your Card, you must not end your journey by tapping your device or you will be charged a default fare.
You are not required to tap your Card or device on an Opal reader at the end of a trip on Sydney Ferries route F1.Your Card or device can only be used to pay for one fare per trip, and the fare your Card will be charged is the same as a standard peak Adult Opal fare for the same trip. Opal daily, weekly and Sunday travel caps are also applied, however other Opal benefits (including, but not limited to, off-peak train fare discounts and weekly travel rewards) are not available with contactless payments.
If your Card or device is not accepted for payment by the Opal reader, you must tap on using an Opal card or Opal single trip ticket in order to travel.
Any payments made for Opal single trip tickets or to top up an Opal card are not eligible for the offer.
Offer is limited to $25 credit per Card to which the offer is saved and only spend on this Card counts towards the Offer.
Excludes transactions where you do not spend directly with your Card or device to which the offer is saved, by tapping your Card on an Opal reader.
Excludes transactions made through a third party establishment or payment processor.
Credit is not redeemable for cash or other payment form.
Credit should appear on your billing statement within 5 business days from qualifying spend but may take up to 90 days from the offer end date.
Credit will not be applied to your Card account if your Card has been suspended or cancelled.
Credit may be reversed if your qualifying purchase is refunded or cancelled.*Does Google Pay count as a mobile wallet or a third party payment processor?
The former
Thanks op
Is it like Amex buying the travel patterns of its customers to customise the targeted promotions based on people movement?
Probably. Location data is the most valuable piece of data as far as extracting money from you without your knowledge of it happening.
"However some other Opal benefits such as Weekly Travel Rewards, Transfer Discounts, Off-peak train fare discounts, Trip Advantage and free access to Opal Park&Ride carparks are not available with contactless payments"
I don't see the advantage of using contactless payments then.
Good if you forget your Opal card and don't have time to line up at the ticket machine to buy a ticket
Well, there's an advantage if you travel infrequently and wouldn't otherwise get the weekly travel reward, or if you don't want to sign up for an opal card.
Off-peak train fares are 30% off already so it's neither here nor there.
It's also cheaper (and quicker!) than lining up and paying for a single trip ticket (if you didn't have a reloadable Opal card handy anyway0
I happened to be in a situation without my Opal card on the weekend, and having my mobile wallet with me meant that I was able to take the train home.
I understand you guys but since my Opal Card and documents never leave my wallet, I never experienced these situations.
So for me, I see no advantages but for someone else, it might do :)
How come this never includes buses?
Note that if you use bus and train, you will not receive the transfer discount of $2 by paying with your Amex. Making opal a better choice.
How about the the 'free' transfer if maintaining the same mode of transport, and tapping on 60 minutes from the last tap off?
Don't think that applies either.
Well that sucks. Is there any reason why these features don't work on contactless cards?
@uggugg: It's still called a 'trial', fingers crossed the full benefits of Opal come to contactless soon.
(they've already gone from charging single trip ticket fares at first, to now charging the standard peak adult fare)
You cant get the $2 discount but if you use Amex, its still free travel anyway since you will get $25 back.
Did you read the OP?
My bad. Only 30% off.
Contactless isn't yet available for buses, anyway (but yes no transfer discount if you go from light rail to train, etc, yet)
does anyone have a manual link?
I received it on my primary via App Offers but I'm currently locked out of Supp card log-in's…ughhhManual link, though I'm fairly sure your card will still need to be targeted https://offerenroll.americanexpress.com/enroll/EnrollmentSit…
Can confirm still need to be targeted; tried my Velocity Escape Amex and got 'this campaign is by invitation only'
Did you try the workaround / hack used last time?
By changing the source code? Nah.
Does anyone have a link to more info about this? Cheers
@Fexofenadine: I was not targeted for this offer but attempted to use the following instructions which did the rounds in the comments section during the last "Wine, Dine and Shop" deal - https://streamable.com/amg03
I was able to bypass the initial rejection message but was presented with another on what should have been the page evidencing successful enrolment. Unfortunately it seems like the AMEX people have disabled this workaround. I'm not based in NSW so I'm not surprised that I wasn't chosen in the targeting process, but had hoped it could be handy when I visit on holiday next month.
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So off-peak fares during peak hour then? I believe off-peak fares are 30% off
I've gotten it on my primary DJs Amex card, but not my Velocity Escape Amex. No idea about my supplementary DJs Amex as I seem to have locked myself out of my account …