SOLD OUTSOLD OUT*****Yamaha basic 5 channel AV receiver, unit is currently at $349 but we are giving ozbargain members an exclusive code to get the amp for $289 with free shipping to east coast of Oz. As far as I can find this is the cheapest price in the country.
Even if you aren't on the east coast put your order in, we'll do our best to keep shipping free for you :)
Great for cheap 4K@60p 4:4:4 - I paid around the same last year for the 2071 model which doesn't have bluetooth. Quite happy with it so far, using Polk T15 for front, 2nd hand JBL sub, and some cheap Micca's for center and rears - so much better than the dying Logitech Z5500 it replaced :)
I paid around the same last year for the 2071 model which doesn't have bluetooth.
But the telepathic direct-brain interface more than makes up for 80-year-old tech.
Hehe yes, yes it do
The bluetooth is probably useful if you want to hook this directly to a Google Home Mini, which lacks analog output.
But better to use HDMI for an Android TV, Apple TV, or equivalent box, to do all your networking - Spotify, Netflix, etc.
Also has bluetooth output to wireless headphones or bluetooth speaker in an adjacent room.
Google Home mini and regular do not have Bluetooth output. They only offer Bluetooth input (ie mic). There are people who hack them to include an analog out (see YouTube) but this also won't help with Bluetooth output.
You will be forced to go down the Chrome path (ie wifi output). So home "casts" it's output to chromecast… "hey Google, play … on the <name of chromecast device>".
HDMI CEC power on/off and volume up/down should allow home and chrome cast to "Hey Google, turn the <name of chromecast device> on" e.t.c. However this doesn't work with my older amp which is said to support CEC but I think it should only claim partial support.
It would be good to know if this amp supports power on/off by CEC. I believe mine can send a CEC power on/off but won't receive commands… devil is in the detail.
I find it works really well but like most things is not perfect.
Hope that helped.
Hey MisterNobody,
Actually both Home and Home Mini DO have Bluetooth output. So manic is right.
You'd probably still be better off with Chromecast / CC Audio for sound quality… Though the average listener may not be able to hear the difference with this receiver.
How is it compare with 385b?
I believe this is equivalent to the RX-V383 (at least they use the same firmware - https://au.yamaha.com/en/support/updates/rx-v383_htr-3071.ht…)
Hi OP - Can this be connected to 3 separate speakers (left, right and centre), which are part of a Panasonic soundbar configuration, for improved TV sound?
?why your question was negged, yes it can.
Uh no it wouldn't connect to a Soundbar so stop giving incorrect advice
Uh no it could connect to soundbar speakers so stop giving incorrect advice.
If the soundbar speakers have their own external amplifier then you just replace that with this one.
@spaceflight: Why don't you tell me how 3 speakers including a centre are related to a Soundbar?
That do not have internal amplifiers.
What kind of Soundbar has a seperate inactive centre?
If he actually has a htib and he's confusing it as a Soundbar as the centre is wide and flat…. Well that's completely different.
Question stated "3 separate speakers (left, right and centre)", 'part' of a sounder configuration, "IF" 3 separate speakers, of course you can connect to this amp.
Also, why neg someone asking a question, stupid really.
@ozf1: Because 3 seperate speakers aren't part of any Soundbar configuration. That doesn't make sense.
I didn't neg him anyway.
@scuderiarmani: FYI, the the system I was enquiring about is a Panasonic SC-HTB570: https://www.trustedreviews.com/reviews/panasonic-sc-htb570
@ifonlyiwasyounger: Not sure how you got 3 channel???
Regardless this receiver isn't necessary, don't listen to these others. They've got Nfi.
@ifonlyiwasyounger: You said 3 seperate speakers, left right and centre. That's 3 channel.
You've got a sub and a speaker that can be disconnected and run as 2.1.
Thats not left right and centre.
@scuderiarmani: From the Trusted Reviews article I linked above: "The Panasonic SC-HTB570 is a clever 2.1-channel soundbar system …"
@ifonlyiwasyounger: What's your point? I quoted what you said.
You said you had a left right and centre Soundbar. You don't. No such thing exists.
If others here are going to give awful misleading advice and get you buying a unit you don't need I will gladly tell otherwise.
@ifonlyiwasyounger: Your speakers are already getting power. This serves no purpose unless you sell your current equipment.
If your soundbar speakers are standard speakers and do not have a built in amplifier then yes you can connect them to this amplifier.
I don't know if it will really improve the sound quality much.
Read what you are saying… Soundbar speakers aren't standard speakers, he's specified a centre channel. 3 seperate speakers.
If that's what he has, sure. He doesn't have a Soundbar then.
Soundbars are not standard speakers
They are today on Oz bargain. Misleading consumers is now a thing :)
The system I was enquiring about is a Panasonic SC-HTB570: https://www.trustedreviews.com/reviews/panasonic-sc-htb570
would this amp be good for an audiophile bookshelf 3.1 setup for an apartment? haven't quite forummed the right bookshelfs yet though but 1-2k max range all up is the aim
i've had a 5.1 yamaha set in the past which was fine but won't fit in our current apartment
$2k for a decent 3.1 system is really pushing it when a good sub costs around $1k just by itself. Doesn't leave many options.
This AVR with a pair of Q Acoustics 3020 bookshelves + 3090C centre and an SVS-PB1000 subwoofer is probably the best you'll find.
$2k for a decent 3.1 system is really pushing it when a good sub costs around $1k just by itself. Doesn't leave many options.
Second hand an option maybe ? From people who either have upgraded speakers, or who bought a system and AV unit broke, so they bought whole new setup (speakers included) .
I'm sure my speakers aren't anything amazing (maybe not even decent, subjectively) , but I believe they were about $1200 new, and I bought on gumtree for $150-$200 .
I'm not an audiophile (except for with my acoustic instruments) , but I thought old speakers were still good ie, speaker tech hasn't changed much in last 10 years ? Correct me if I am wrong though, always good to learn :)
Yes, totally. If you're not too picky with the age/look/size of the speaker, something made 20 years ago can sound great. We have some old Marantz speakers from the 90s and they're excellent. Not exactly audiophile quality but they were only $100 for two.
@bargdebarg: I'm happy with my JBL designed sansui SP3500s from the late 60's, the best $50 I have ever spent. The right-hand one does shift a little on the fridge if I put my Pioneer VSX-932 up full by not compensating for lag if using a bluetooth controller tho.. Fortunately I didn't have it on "direct" as I was playing YouTube content..
http://audiokarma.org/forums/index.php?threads/sansui-sp-350…
@terrys: Nice one Terrys! I've had a pair of those too and restored them to build a vintage system for a friend. Initially cost me about $50 too. Sounded great through the nice little, low power valve amp on my test bench. BIG speakers but just sound so good and can be had for next to nothing… even 'fully restored' sell for only a few hundred!
Agree with looking at second hand, I picked up a Velodyne Sub that was going new for just under 2k for $500 from Gumtree. My advice is to have patience, generally know how good speaker brands are and the street price. But going second hand is the cheapest way to get a very decent setup.
Kit speakers are also an option. The old Jaycar ones aren’t available anymore, but I believe LSK and WES still have affordable options.
Be careful with the concept & definition of 'audiophile'. Audio is subjective and price should only ever be used as a very loose guide to sound quality. I've heard many combos over the years (a lot of them put together by myself) and it always amazes me how little you have to spend to get very decent sound. The room size & type & speaker placement can have a huge impact to sound quality too! In saying that though I still believe simplicity rules and there's nothing quite like the solid yet detailed sound of a simple 2-ch system…. no Sub to add confusion to the lows and no extra channels to add mess to the sound stage… just pure 2-ch bliss! I've built 2-ch systems using large, multi-thousand dollar classic Amplifiers & Speakers but also with tiny, inexpensive Class-D Amps and Voll bookshelfs for around $250-300 total and have managed to realise audio bliss from both so yeah, many choices & variables to consider.
Whatever 'audiophile' is, I'm not sure this little Yamaha would belong in that class so you may need to look elsewhere if you intend to build a true 'audiophile' system… but the first thing you'll need to do is figure out what it actually means :)
Thanks for replies guys.
I did some digging on whirlpool and I've just joined stereo Aus.
All great points. Happy to be patient and find a great second hand set.
My last lot of 'audiophile' research was about 10 years ago when I rigged up my parents place and ended up getting a floorstanding 5.1 Krix set which Id still love to go back to.
Ie. Equinox bookshelf for fronts
But it seems value may lie elsewhere.
Any tips for high quality second hand brands to chase in a 3.1 set up? Missus has set the budget tight because of our current setup but I love good sound too so was hoping to avoid a soundbar.
Any reason to go 3.1 over just a simpler 2.1… or even just go for 2-ch without a Sub at all and put that money into even nicer mains? So many variables but I'd be starting with a search for Dynaudio, ELAC, JBL and B&W to see what decent used stuff is available in each and within budget. I setup a lovely little system based around a pair of used Dynaudio Bookshelfs a couple of years ago and they would have to be some of the sweetest speakers I've ever heard but still packed a punch down low. Not wall shaking of course but very pure & controlled. Can't remember the model now but could find out if need be. Were sub-$1000 but were over $2k when new! Ran them with a pair of Rotel Monoblocked Power Amps with a Rotel Pre… also all 90s vintage. Sooo nice.
@SteveAndBelle: Wow I'm really impressed with you guys & your audio knowledge. I'm always amazed how deep this area goes.
I'm afraid I'm a bit out of my depth when it comes to bargain hunting, but thanks for those brand suggestions I'll do some more digging.
Kef, ELAC, Wharfedale, Krix and B&W are brands I'd have a look at, again for second hand it comes to patience and acting quickly when something does pop up.
For the three speakers I'd keep them all the same brand but for Subwoofer you can mix and match. Subwoofer brand if you read other forums etc. you will be told to get the SVS PB-1000 (about $1000 new) or the Paradigm PDR 100 (about $500 new) I have heard both of them and I would be happy with either but as I said above I got a Velodyne cause the deal on gumtree was too good to pass up.
@Fluffyduck77: Awesome thanks for the suggestions. What do you think of a Krix Apex pair with a centre channel Equinox MK1 for $390? THey're about 15-20 years old though which is quite old
@G Wok: Don't worry about their age, ask questions (as you've done here) and do your research elsewhere (lots of good audio forums online inc. Audiokarma) and go from there. I've got speakers ranging in age from a couple of months ago through to the 80s, many from the 70s but even a few pairs from the 60s and they all sound great but each have their own sound signature. There's no such thing as an all-rounder speaker that's good at everything but there are some that come very close however they're usually bigger than your fridge and need massive Power Amps to keep them happy… oh and they cost more than you'd like to know ;) Here's a great example, the legendary JBL 4355. DROOL :)
How much would the shipping be to Perth Metro? Don't really care if you use Fastway as much as I hate them.
Hi BonezAU, Perth metro should be fine, it's mainly WA/SA regional that becomes an issue with freight sometimes. As I said though in the OP, put it through and we will most likely do free shipping anyways :)
thanks OP, I pulled the trigger :)
Hi op
Is it compatible with Bose Acoustimass® 10 Series?
Bose doesn't need receivers….
As scuderiarmani said, Bose require their own AV receiver, which I believe also has the sub built into it also. We don't sell Bose so can't comment too much on it. Cheers
Actually I just checked that specific one, it looks like a normal set though apparently with proprietary connectors… The Amazon page says compatible with receivers, hmmm
Bose acoustimass 10 series IV does use receiver. I Bought bose acoustimass 10 series IV and Onkyo TXNR 414 receiver together. Unfortunately the receiver is not working. Hence looking for a new least expensive one
Odd as they don't rate their specs at Bose, so would be awkward matching it… unless these did.
I have an Xbox one X (native 4k, HDR) , ps4 pro (4k/HDR) , and 2017 model Sony Android 4k HDR Tv (used for 4k netflix app primarily).
I also have a 5.1 surround set of 10 year old, but decent (accusound brand) speakers. (5 speakers, 1 active sub). Receiver is too old for HDMI but has optical.
If I buy this AV receiver, what would be the best way to set up so I can get best sound and not lose any picture quality at all
It's my understanding that many AV receivers lose some picture quality when HDMI enters then exits the AV receiver. I have a $300 yamaha sound bar that does 4k and HDR, but I read it was 1 of the first to do HDR.
I know I can possibly use optical audio output into AV unit, but I thought that is lesser quality than plugging the HDMI directly into AV unit ?
How do they lose picture quality when HDMI is a pure digital signal?
The best way to get the best sound and not lose picture quality is to use HDMI between the Xbox One X, PS4 pro, the receiver, and the TV. That's what I do - and I still get 4K HDR (I have a One X and a Hisense P6 series).
Why don't you run Netflix app on Xbox?
Sorry, can't really answer your question. I have older Yamaha receiver which only supports FullHD HDMI pass through so I plugged in my xbox via HDMI to telly and via optical to the receiver.
Wow, I'm in an eerily similar scenario. I have a X1S, PS4 Pro, 2017 Bravia (930E) all doing their 4K/HDR thing.
I just installed a 10 year old Accusound 5.1 system and am forgoing HDMI to and from my receiver because I don't think it would be able to handle 4K/60fps/HDR (it's an equally old receiver that DOES have HDMI fwiw).
Optical seems okay, but I seem to remember reading that HDMI allows for better codecs, but I can't use it with my 4K gear I assume?
I'd also like to know the answer to OPs question haha
See below
You'd be best to connect the X1X and PS4 to the receiver then connect the receiver output to your HDMI port on the TV that supports HDMI ARC.
It looks like most of the 2017 Sony Bravia's support Dolby Digital and DTS passthrough on both HDMI ARC and Optical so that should net you 5.1 Audio from the built in Netflix app on the TV itself.
Seems like a pretty simple setup.
You won't lose quality unless you're using horrid HDMI cables
Cool, I'm wondering whether it's worth picking up this nice receiver or just sticking to my older one then.
What's the advantage of passing through my game console HDMI through the receiver to the TV (which my pre-4K one presumably can't do adequately), compared to just using optical from the TV to the receiver before output?
This or the RXV 385? I believe the latter can be had for around $320 during Ebay sales?
@rep is the firmware update for Dolby vision/HLG available yet or do you have an ETA? Does it support hdr10 out of the box?
Not too sure, I'll get one of my guys to find out. Cheers
Firmware update instructions/file is available on the Yamaha website.
Do you have any units similar to this that would work with a passive subwoofer?
I'll have a look today and see if we have any, but I would say no. We have a Yamaha nssw100 subwoofer on special for $295 at the moment, I would suggest getting a powered sub is much better than putting excessive strain on a low powered amp to drive a sub (remember lower frequencies require a lot more energy to reproduce them).
Cheers
Hi OP. Thinking of getting this unit. I've got a passive Dali sub. Is this unit has enough to power it or not? Thanks.
This like most receivers doesn't power subwoofers.
You need active subwoofers for typical receivers
Would anyone recommend this as a decent upgrade over an old rx-v375?
No. It is practically the same thing.
Unless you are desperate for 4K passthrough?
Any other Yamaha AVRs you have sale pricing on? :)
I was planning to get yht1840b ($400).
Is it worth getting this and adding speaker later?
I was previously planning to buy a Denon AVR-X550BT, however as I’m a bit of a novice, can anyone advise if it has any real advantages compared to this Yamaha for a basic 5.1 home theatre set up (room size 5x4m)?
Just trying to work out if it’s worth spending the extra $100 on the Denon or not.
Thanks
If it was me I'd keep the extra $100 and spend that on better speakers or subwoofer.
If you're a novice, I'd stick with this. It's ranked Best Overall: The Yamaha RX-V383. This is the same model but marked as bulk or to sell as a complete package.
https://www.lifewire.com/best-home-theater-receivers-400-or-…
the extra $100 might not worth it, little different.
Yamaha:
HDMI upscaling
Denon:
2 Subwoofer Out
Hey,
Slightly off track but hoping I can get some help.
Would this work with the 5.1 TV surround sound setup that's running wireless rear speakers?
Thanks
If your wireless rears are from a 5.1 HTIB system with the audio sender inside the AVR, then no. Even wired HTIB speakers often don't work very well with receivers like this due to them typically having really low impedance (3-4 ohm).
Great price for a solid basic amp.
Trigger pulled
Damn I just bought 3 days back for $19 more 😭
This seems like a great deal….
I was hoping to get a SONY amp as i have PS4 and Sony 4k tv and it makes sense to stay with 1 brand for less confusion and better syncing but not sure if that would be an issue or not. Similar 5.2 Sony Amp is basically double the price so this deal is very tempting. My previous AMP was a high end Denon 4308 but its almost 10 years old now and doesn't have the 4k HDR support so its gathering dust even though it works perfectly still.
My thoughts are to keep it simple these days with the roll out of new tech paying for top end Audio Visual gear seems like a bit of a waste. Thankfully speakers never really show their age.
I have PS4, XBOX One, Apple TV, Yamaha AV, Samsung 4k TV and there is zero confusion or syncing issues. The only things this AV is missing would be ATMOS support, 7.1 and music streaming for some future proofing, not sure at what price point the Sony's get that. For what is worth the Sony STRDN1080 does get really good reviews for about $1k but if you're not going to use all the features then might as well spend more on speakers and keep the AV simple.
Hey team here's a question - back in 2011 I bought a 5.1 Pioneer system for around $600 at JB which by todays standards I'm quite sure is pretty average. I finally updated my tv of the same age last year to an OLED so in 2019 I have my sights on upgrading my sound. What I'm trying to understand is the actual use of the amp and how much it affects overall performance. I have a PS4 Pro, Switch & Foxtel all plugged directly into the TV…. if I were to get a 4k amp would having everything passing through that change performance at all? Would the same speakers on a better amp significantly improve sound quality? I've never watched a blu-ray in my life (though probably should to truly see what the telly can do) so just really can't get my head around what new tech in an amp would justify a replacement?
I'll also do my own research but do like hearing what you lot have to say.
Would the same speakers on a better amp significantly improve sound quality?
Yes.
But this is an entry level amp so IMO the sound quality will not improve.
Please don't expect this amp to transform the sound quality and power from you previous amp.
The only good thing about this is that HDMI connectivity is easier as it has the 4k pass-through for the latest TV that supports it.
Plus it has BT however no wireless.
But for this price, for an entry level receiver that will pass-through the latest codecs is very good.
You want a gain, then you have to go the to Yammy Aventage setup & at least an AX-2xxx +
Cheers
So what change would I see plugging the Playstation into the amp rather than into the TV?
The amp will handle the image pass-through the 4K TV (Image) and the sound output to the speakers
The difference is that you don't have to connect the PS4 etc, and others directly to the TV where the TV outputs the sound.
Cheers
@vinni9284: I get that - I already have the TV outputting all audio to the amp via HDMI though, so 4 inputs get to the amp via 1 output.
This is the problem with most modern 'integrated' gear, you're locked into whatever the manufacturer wants to include in the product your purchase as they're only building to a price point afterall. OK so the Receiver/Amp in this deal (& all like it, even the VERY expensive ones!) does a few things via a few separate modules all combined in a nice neat box with a remote control. Firstly, it acts as a switch 'hub' allowing you to have everything connected simultaneously and easily switch between your inputs. Secondly it has a Pre-Amp section to get all the signals from all the different inputs up to a standard 'line level' and allows effects, surround & EQ adjustments to be made. Lastly that 'line level' signal is then passed on to the Power Amp section which boosts it from a few volts into many volts in order to power your speakers and make them move enough to give you the volume you desire.
The problem here is that combining all these jobs into one neat & tidy box means you're cutting lots & lots of corners however the resulting audio quality is still acceptable to most peoples ears and it's usually the absolute convenience that wins most of us over more than the finer details lost in the actual audio quality. I should know, I just dropped a grand or so on a SONOS Beam & Sub for the Lounge TV and LOVE the absolute minimalism & simplicity of what it provides. Hardly detectable in the room, only one remote on the coffee table and sounds 'good enough' for most listening. When I want to have a critical listening session I'll go to my Workshop/Listening room and use whatever combination of high-end vintage gear I've collected & restored over the years. There's no way most modern integrated systems such as the Receiver/Amp in this deal can come close to the clarity an old school, 2-ch Pre/Power Amp & decent speaker system can achieve… but of course most people don't have the room, patience nor time & money to stuff around with it all and fair enough too!
Each to their own but to answer your question, yes… an Amp can affect overall performance like you wouldn't believe. It's whether you could be bothered to spend the effort, time & money finding out how worthwhile the alternatives are.
I agree with everything you are saying however this thread is in relation to a $289 entry level receiver :P
IMO, generally people expect that an entry level puny receiver is going to transform their whole setup into the next level in which they get disappointed when it doesn't
Cheers
Yeah, I was just answering his question… probably a bit too literally though ;)
@vinni9284: @vinni9284 what would you recommend for me as I need a slim (no more than 14cm high) receiver. I am just after entry level at this stage and mainly need it to plug in multiple 4k devices into it.
Thanks, appreciate the answer. I guess it's a similar effect to when I swapped the headunit out of my first car and noticed the stock speakers had taken on a whole new life.
Where my question came from that I didn't quite mention is that for big purchases like this I don't mind buying in parts, so was wondering if it'd be worth my while only upgrading the amp and in a couple of months getting back around to the speakers or vice versa.
… and this is the rabbit hole! If you really want to buy in parts to strive for better quality all-round then maybe look into going for a separate Pre-Amp and Power Amp combo… but prepare to pay thousands! To be honest (& as Vinnie has already explained) this is low-end, consumer based gear so nothing under several hundred is really going to give you enough of a noticeable difference in sound quality to bother with the purchase. Even spending over several hundred wont add too much either… just more channels & features.
@SteveAndBelle: To be honest wouldn't be looking at spending over a thou. Considering if it's even worth my while now…
Solid unit for the price