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Asus Radeon EX-RX570-O4G 4GB Expedition $149 Pick up or + Delivery + 2 Free Games @ MSY

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Asus Radeon EX-RX570-O4G 4GB Expedition $149 Pick up or + Delivery + 2 Free Games @ MSY
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rainy118 on 21/12/2018 - 12:05 msy.com.au (2991 clicks)
Last edited 21/12/2018 - 12:48 by 1 other user

Hi all, was bidding on 2nd hand graphics card on ebay for the last week, however happened to come across this brand new best value graphics card from MSY website today.
Can handle most of the 3A games on high setting. Performance is slightly slower than GTX 1060 6GB however it is only 1/2 of the price.
would guess this was built for mining however needed to clear as the result of the coin collapsing.

showing stock everywhere at the time of posting.

edit:
thanks for ransworld's advice, 2 free games make this deal even better.

you can choose any 2 of below items:

Resident Evil™ 2, Devil May Cry™ 5, Tom Clancy’s The Division® 2

https://www.msy.com.au/viconline/776-amd-raise-the-game-camp…

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  • ransworld on 21/12/2018 - 12:23
    +3

    According to this OzBargain post, this comes with two free games. Choose from The Division 2, Resident Evil 2 and Devil May Cry 5.

    Here are the details on the MSY website: https://www.msy.com.au/viconline/776-amd-raise-the-game-camp…

  • c0balt on 21/12/2018 - 12:52
    +8

    I own a much more powerful card but this deal is really tempting just for the bargain sake!

    • Agret on 21/12/2018 - 13:20
      +1

      Basically buy 2 new release games and get a free GPU :P

    • idonotknowwhy on 21/12/2018 - 14:06
      +5

      I agree with this humblebrag.
      Great deal for the plebs!

  • Matt86 on 21/12/2018 - 12:54

    Will this output 4k via HDMI?

    Building a system for a good mate with my old 3770k and parts.

    I just don't have a decent GPU for 4k videos apart from a R9 270 which won't do it via HDMI.

    • Matt86 on 21/12/2018 - 12:56

      Looks like it has HDMI 2.0b as per their website.

    • Viper8 on 21/12/2018 - 12:57
      +1

      Use Google:
      https://www.asus.com/au/Graphics-Cards/EX-RX570-O4G/specific…
      "HDMI Output : Yes x 1 (Native) (HDMI 2.0)"
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI#Version_2.0
      "This enables HDMI 2.0 to carry 4K video at 60 Hz with 24 bit/px color depth."

      If you're asking from a "horsepower" perspective then yes this will be fine. I have a 1060 (which is slightly more powerful) and it can play 1.5-4x 4k Youtube videos simultaneously depending on the compression etc.

    • Junk Sifter on 21/12/2018 - 12:57
      +1

      Yes it has HDMI 2.0 output. Good for 4K 60Hz.

    • Agret on 21/12/2018 - 13:21
      -2

      Depends if you mean streaming videos or blu-ray rips. Even my 6770k with GTX 1080 lags like hell trying to playback a UHD blu-ray. My $50 android TV box with native h.265 decoding however plays it like a dream.

      • follow on 21/12/2018 - 14:07
        +2

        You're doing something wrong

        • Matt86 on 21/12/2018 - 16:47
          +1

          Yeah! I was able to run 4k content on my 3770k and R9 290 fine.

          The only issue is you'd have to use display port or HDMI at 30hz (fine for videos).

          Mainly just wanting to know as I beleive my friend is after a 4k or 1440p monitor.

          • follow on 21/12/2018 - 17:14
            +1

            @Matt86: I was able to run 4k 24fps with i5 2500k.
            With a 1080 you can select hardware acceleration and it'll use less than 5% of the gpu

  • GregRust on 21/12/2018 - 13:00
    +9

    Good performance but mine died after less than two months.

    • WalterBiH on 21/12/2018 - 13:27
      +1

      +2

      My first RX570 Expedition one died after only 3 days in service. No overclocking - just standard out of factory settings.
      Retailer replaced it with brand new one in unopened box. Second one one lasted total of 2 weeks :(

      Ended up getting full refund and buying ASUS Radeon RX580 Dual Gaming OC 4GB for only $19 more.
      Had RX580 in service for 6 weeks and so far no problems.

      P.S.
      Positive out of all the hassle was that I ended up with 3 games that came with RX570 (mid year AMD promo) + 2 games that came with RX580 (current AMD promo).
      :)

    • AreYouAWiiizard on 21/12/2018 - 13:47
      +1

      Mine was DOA, this card series seems to have 0 QA but if you aren't unlucky, this is a good deal.

    • ReaperX22 on 21/12/2018 - 14:23
      +1

      My brother got one of these too. Died in 3 months. We have the replacement now but doesn't instil confidence that it'll last the distance.. Refund might be the go if it dies again.

    • jakentta on 21/12/2018 - 14:33
      +1

      I also had two of these cards fail very quickly after installation.

      • DracoManX69 on 21/12/2018 - 19:23
        +1

        Went through 3 of these before asking for a refund and getting the next one up

  • jasswolf on 21/12/2018 - 13:03
    -1

    Oof… this is a good value proposition, especially compared to a 1050 or 1060. Just keep in mind AMD is a mixed bag in certain games, so check recent benchmarks to see if that value holds for what you play.

    As for future offerings, I'm sure the 2050 will monster this card with a similar energy efficiency (depending on if they opt for 16nm/12nm or 10nm), but the price is a bit of a wild card right now. I think it will be higher, but at least on the same price/performance gradient as this.

    • FabMan on 23/12/2018 - 18:15
      -1

      Can you clarify what you "AMD is a mixed bag in certain games" If you are saying AMD is faster than NVIDIA in some games but slower in others, that is because you are using NVIDIA as the baseline, use AMD as the baseline and NVIDIA is faster in some games and slower in others. Or are you saying AMD has some significant problems in some games where NVIDIA does not, in which case, what games?

      What info do you have on a 2050? I've seen nothing, and from what I've read, there will not be as NVIDIA don't intend to release a GPU with RT cores slower than 2060. There will probably be a 1150, though. It seems the 2000 series will be GPUs with RT cores, and those without will go to 1100 series, the first being 1160.

      • jasswolf on 23/12/2018 - 20:24
        -1

        Can you clarify what you "AMD is a mixed bag in certain games" If you are saying AMD is faster than NVIDIA in some games but slower in others, that is because you are using NVIDIA as the baseline, use AMD as the baseline and NVIDIA is faster in some games and slower in others. Or are you saying AMD has some significant problems in some games where NVIDIA does not, in which case, what games?

        I'm coming from the opinion that most people who ask others about GPU performance anecdotally have an 80% chance of finding themselves talking to a NVIDIA user, but cheers for the downvote.

        What info do you have on a 2050? I've seen nothing, and from what I've read, there will not be as NVIDIA don't intend to release a GPU with RT cores slower than 2060. There will probably be a 1150, though. It seems the 2000 series will be GPUs with RT cores, and those without will go to 1100 series, the first being 1160.

        That's been a terribly thought out rumour that people have kept trying to slip into the conversation. I don't have time to break down for you why having two simultaneous architecture updates for consumers is economically dumb (nor am I exceedingly qualified to). Instead here's some key points:

        • RTX is a marketing term, and refers to mesh shaders, DLSS and raytracing. By that logic, one can have no working RT cores, and still have an RTX card.

        • 5 gigarays is supposedly the minimum for raytracing at 1080p 60 FPS according to NVIDIA, but this would in turn mean that 3.5 gigarays is the minimum for 1080p 60 FPS when DLSS is used, as evidenced by the RTX 2070 performance in BF V, and the DLSS variant of the Star Wars RT demo. This allows for a 20ish SM GPU to support raytracing (the RTX 2060 is supposedly a 30 SM GPU).

        • FabMan on 23/12/2018 - 20:39
          -1

          "I'm coming from the opinion that most people who ask others about GPU performance anecdotally have an 80% chance of finding themselves talking to a NVIDIA user."

          Yeah, it doesn't make AMD cards a mixed bag still, it's poor information you are giving. Game engines perform differently for each hardware and software configuration, not just limited to GPU's.

          "two simultaneous architecture"

          The 1100 series is rumored to be the same Turing architecture as the 2000, just not including RT cores. The 1100 series is a rumor from a source that has leaked correct information many times before, but has more credence than your comment of "the 2050 will monster this card with a similar energy efficiency (depending on if they opt for 16nm/12nm or 10nm)".

          https://videocardz.com/79425/expreview-nvidia-rumored-to-lau…

          • jasswolf on 23/12/2018 - 20:44

            @FabMan: I've seen that, and that's an incredibly expensive thing for a chip company to do.

            We've seen Volta create a new series of cards for a rapidly growing market sector, but that was still leveraged into Turing alongside that. RT cores take up 10% of the silicon, so there's no real saving there either, just a fortune in R&D money to test and iterate the design. You're going to be seeing a hell of a lot more RT cores in future GPU generations.

            I've called it a mixed bag because it is compared to what most people expect. They'll look up a comparison chart of average performance between it and the 1060, and basically equate the two, ask friends, then make a decision. I'm asking them to look at individual benchmarks to get a better idea. That's it.

            You're talking out of your arse here, and we've both got better ways to spend the holidays. Cheers.

            • FabMan on 23/12/2018 - 20:46
              -1

              @jasswolf: Well I'm here trying to help people make a better decision, you are giving out bad information and I want to correct it. You have a source on the 2050?

              • jasswolf on 23/12/2018 - 20:46
                -2

                @FabMan: You're literally the one giving out the bad information.

                • FabMan on 23/12/2018 - 20:46
                  -1

                  @jasswolf: Source on the 2050? Nope, just you making up information, at least I linked a credible source that numerous other websites are reporting on.

                  • jasswolf on 23/12/2018 - 20:50
                    -1

                    @FabMan: You could not be more wilfully misreading my comments if you tried. All the best.

                    • FabMan on 23/12/2018 - 20:55

                      @jasswolf: The differences between Vega and the 500 series, are two different micro-architectures both supported by AMD at the same time. Sure, one is the older and one is the newer micro-architecture, but both are being produced and supported at the same time. AMD could have used the 500 series architecture and just attempted to ramp it up, however, they created a new one just to utilize HBM. NVIDIA has a lot more money than AMD for R&D, they also have a very expensive GPU line on their hands which was never going to be popular with the masses, they needed a lower cost alternative.

                        • FabMan on 23/12/2018 - 21:01
                          -1

                          @jasswolf: Yes, there are now 5 different generations of it.

                          The 500 series utilises the 4th generation GCN.
                          The Vega with HBM series utilises the 5th generation GCN.
                          Some APU'a are using Vega, however, that is a 4th generation GCN, not the 5th generation, which is just marketing using a name and doesn't help these discussions much.

                          Two different micro-architectures. AMD can support two different micro-architectures, so can NVIDIA. If the 5th generation could work with GDDR5, they wouldn't still be producing the 4th generation, so they've been supporting the two architectures for almost 2 years now.

  • MDSUXKS on 21/12/2018 - 13:03

    I've got a 1050 ti 4gb ram worth to upgrade?
    Thx

    • Junk Sifter on 21/12/2018 - 13:07
      +4

      No.

      • MDSUXKS on 21/12/2018 - 13:07
        +1

        Thx.

    • Spam Service on 21/12/2018 - 13:12
      +2

      If you were looking at buying one or the other, the RX570 is a better card in just about every way. But it's probably only about 20% better - it won't be much of an upgrade. Not worth it.

    • bunnybash on 21/12/2018 - 13:17
      +4

      The 470 actually is a fair bit better. Hardware Unboxed tested them both across a stupid amount of games and on average the 470 is about 25% faster. That's a huge difference in FPS. I would say the upgrade is worth it. $150 for 25% better performance and 2 free games. If I didn't already have a faster card, I would be all over it.

      If your monitor is 60fps and you're going from 35fps to 50+fps that would be noticeably better.

      link for review here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EkM8EelpJs

      • AreYouAWiiizard on 21/12/2018 - 13:51
        +2

        Wrong model, this is a 570, quite a bit faster than the 470.

        • bunnybash on 21/12/2018 - 22:19
          +1

          Ughhh I wrote the wrong one. I meant 570 lol

    • FrozenFred on 21/12/2018 - 15:39
      +1

      I wouldn't. Amd cards use more power. For 50% extra performance roughly. Uses over 2 times the wattage

    • pin4e on 21/12/2018 - 15:45
      +1

      I sold a 1050ti for $180 the other day so you may actually make money by upgrading.

    • thearbiter117 on 21/12/2018 - 18:21
      +1

      Well you could likely get nearly as much for your second hand 1050Ti (at least $100), so that would mean its only a $50 (or less) upgrade. So if you then sold whichever 2 games you picked you would actually be at a profit by upgrading. Or if you want both games and would have bought them, again you are still ahead money wise and a free upgrade.
      I see no reason not to buy it going by this.
      These sort of sneaky plans are how i got a gtx 1080 for technically $450 back 2 years ago right before mining became big again. (when they were normally around $700)

    • FabMan on 23/12/2018 - 18:24

      As others had said, AMD RX 570 is about 40% to 50% faster, consumes double the power, comes with 2 free games, you can sell the 1050Ti for $100.

      You just need to make sure it'll fit in your case and your PSU is sufficient.

      I use a Vega 56, I have undervolted the GPU with little difficulty and enjoy the benefits of reduced power consumption, reduce heat generated, reduce fan noise.

  • paperclips on 21/12/2018 - 13:06

    $150 was my trigger point, got one thanks!

  • Kontiki on 21/12/2018 - 13:13

    Ah bugger I just grabbed a second-hand RX 550 earlier today. Sure I paid less, but damn this is a good deal.

    It's normally $199.

  • Jopgun on 21/12/2018 - 13:16

    Any difference between this and the Asus Strix RX570 4gb?

  • Zylam Marex on 21/12/2018 - 13:17

    Wow unbelievable deal. I got it for 199 a few months ago and was happy with that. This price with 2 free games is insane.

  • Sopzo on 21/12/2018 - 13:18

    RX 570 4GB gives the most FPS per dollar (more so than 8GB version or RX 580)

    This is a damn good deal OP

  • Cynicaloflife on 21/12/2018 - 13:23

    Does this fit in Dell Optiplex?

    • Agret on 21/12/2018 - 13:24

      Need a more specific model identifier, there are tons of models labelled OptiPlex. The power supply may not be up to the task depending on which one you have.

      Looking at the card though it appears to be a full-size card with no breakaway for low profile, it won't fit physically if you have a low profile OptiPlex.

      • Cynicaloflife on 21/12/2018 - 13:26

        Actually was not the optiplex. I have this PC - https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/desktops-and-all-in-ones/thinkc…

        • josh3003 on 21/12/2018 - 13:35

          No, it is a small form factor case it would not fit in this. You would need a low profile card. Assuming you even had the PCI power available to power it as well.

        • Agret on 21/12/2018 - 13:38

          As you have a small form factor PC it really limits you in what you can buy

          The most comparable in cost is this one:
          https://www.msy.com.au/viconline/nvidia/20005-gigabyte-n1050…
          But it's definitely not a gaming video card and has roughly 80% worse performance than the card in this deal.

          The most powerful low profile card you can get is this one:
          https://www.newegg.com/global/au-en/Product/Product.aspx?Ite…
          But i'm not sure if you have 2 slots at the back you could put it and you would probably have to upgrade the power supply to run it too.

          The pricing for low profile video cards is ridiculous and you are better off grabbing a PS4 or XBOX One from the christmas/boxing day/new years sales for cheap than spending on one of these options.

  • RenVilo on 21/12/2018 - 13:27

    Can I select 2 copies of Division 2?

    • xuqi on 21/12/2018 - 13:52
      +1

      No

      • thelastnoob on 21/12/2018 - 19:45
        +1

        you could trade code for another copy with a helpful ozb member

  • jayz on 21/12/2018 - 13:27

    Can this card run most games?

    (I guess I can't be too fussy, I'm coming from a HD7770 lol)

    • rainy118 on 21/12/2018 - 13:36
      +1

      yes provide you have a reasonable CPU. e.g. i3 6th gen+

      • jayz on 21/12/2018 - 13:46
        +2

        I'm still running an i5 2500 with 16gb of ddr3 goodness. Not worth it?

        • c0balt on 21/12/2018 - 13:50
          +2

          i5 2500 will handle it fine.

    • Sopzo on 21/12/2018 - 13:39
      -5

      Yes. You will be playing at low-med settings in many games but you will be able to run most games

    • Agret on 21/12/2018 - 13:39

      Yes, at $150 this is amazing bang for buck and definitely hits a sweet spot with those 2 extra games. Jump on it!

    • Spam Service on 21/12/2018 - 14:04
      +2

      This will run all games fine at 1080p. I have one - the Witcher 3, Doom, Rise of the Tomb raider and Mass Effect Andromeda all work well at high/ultra at 60fps.

    • magic8ballgag on 21/12/2018 - 14:05
      -2

      Will most games run? Sure.

      I'd be asking how well they will run though.

  • Tuftsdude on 21/12/2018 - 14:01

    Using all my self restraint not to buy one and build a PC for the bedroom.

  • magic8ballgag on 21/12/2018 - 14:03

    Can handle most of the 3A games on high setting.

    Define handle please, as this can be a selling point for some people.

    • chyawala on 21/12/2018 - 14:10
      +1

      @1080p with solid frame rate performance.

  • Ryxxi on 21/12/2018 - 14:20

    lol gpu is cheaper than 2 games which would retail for $160min..

  • IPYF on 21/12/2018 - 14:31

    Anyone got a position on how this would go as an upgrade over a GTX770 2gb at 1080?

    • ultra64 on 21/12/2018 - 14:53
      +1

      I used to run GTX670 2gb SLI, and I can say it gives me a more stable 60fps on 1080 high/ultra settings.
      Rise of the Tomb Raider, Mass Effects Andromeda, Far Cry 5 & Doom all runs smooth.
      And I run a 4th gen i5 with DDR3 ram (games installed on SSDs).

  • AEKaBeer on 21/12/2018 - 14:34

    Amazing price, I just picked up a used one for $120 for my brothers kids PC for 1080P gaming.

  • [Deactivated] on 21/12/2018 - 15:26

    Would this be a decent upgrade from my RX 470?

    • crabcancer on 21/12/2018 - 15:35
      +2

      Hmm, having same thoughts. I have a RX 460 and wondering if this is worth it.

      • pin4e on 21/12/2018 - 15:47

        470 wouldn't be a huge upgrade. From the 460 definitely

        • [Deactivated] on 21/12/2018 - 16:20

          Yeah I figured… I'll give it a pass then

        • crabcancer on 21/12/2018 - 16:26

          Thanks, mate. Sometimes all these techno jargon is really confusing

          • AEKaBeer on 21/12/2018 - 18:28

            @crabcancer: The 570 is a higher clocked 470. It's still a fair bit faster than the 460 and worth the update of you're targetting 1080p high above 60fps in almost all games.

            The 460 is very under powered but still can sell for a decent amount.

      • thearbiter117 on 21/12/2018 - 18:24

        If you are wanting any of these free games and would have bought them, basically this upgrade would be free. (or could make you money depending on how much you could sell your second hand RX 460 for). Even if you dont want the games you could likely sell them for $40-50 each again meaning with the money from your current card sale this upgrade would be free.

  • hiska on 21/12/2018 - 15:33
    +1

    I've been rocking an old Nvidia GTX760 2GB like a Scrooge for way too long 😊 Haven’t installed the RX570 from this deal yet and would have liked to have had the extra cash to have gotten the ASUS/Sapphire RX580 8GB Card or that MSI Vega56 $440 deal last month.

    I think this $149 MSY RX570 4GB with 2 free games deal broke "The OZbargain Tight Arse Force" which is an metaphysical and mystically ubiquitous power that surrounds me and all other proud members in a constant state of being a super tight arse, super frugal, a master haggler and always on the search for a deal with the deal tracking eye sight of Cyberdyne Systems Terminator 😊

    I nearly jumped into the car as quick as the HP Touchpad deal many years ago, but I had to do some quick googling on it 😊

    I currently have no real need for multiple monitor or 1440p + gaming right yet and hopefully this card will a be nice “Little Engine That Could” until I can get something better in the future. Shout-out to rainy118 thanks for the post.

  • syx on 21/12/2018 - 15:46

    I did a quick bit of research but can anyone confirm it would be a down grade from my GTX 970?

    Awfully tempting for the 2 free games though. Like someone mentioned earlier it's basically buy 2 games get a free GPU.

  • crabcancer on 21/12/2018 - 15:49

    Anybody can point me in a direction to determine if my motherboard will accept this card. I am currently running RX460 and seriously need an upgrade.

    • Junk Sifter on 21/12/2018 - 16:14

      Should be fine. It's about 1.5x as fast as a 460.

      • crabcancer on 21/12/2018 - 16:28

        Kewl so I can now die 1.5x faster because I don't check camping spots when rushing out!

        But does anybody know of any website where I can check and verify for the future.

        And on a side note, this card was on Ozbargain about 4 months ago for $220 but you get 3 games.

        https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/395901

        • AEKaBeer on 21/12/2018 - 18:33

          I just checked a few reviews it's about double the performance.

        • Agret on 22/12/2018 - 09:16

          Video cards switched to using PCI express in 2004. Any board produced since then has supported any video card released, you could use this card on a Core 2 Duo from 2007 without any problems.

          For the future it's probably still awhile until video cards change interface since we've had the current one for 14yrs now.

  • Mozzlah on 21/12/2018 - 16:09

    Hey guys. I'm currently running a R9 200 series on a I5-4690. I forgot my motherboard but I think it was a H97M or somethign like that.
    Would this be okay to run this card?

    • Junk Sifter on 21/12/2018 - 16:14

      Yes.

      • Mozzlah on 21/12/2018 - 16:15

        Worth the upgrade? I guess just the games are worth it and the card is a bonus if so

        • Junk Sifter on 21/12/2018 - 16:25

          Do you have an R9 270? Not really worth it if R9 280 or higher I reckon.

          • Mozzlah on 21/12/2018 - 16:40

            @Junk Sifter: I've checked CPU-Z and all it said was R9 200 series. It said 3GB and GDDR5 if that helps?

            • Agret on 21/12/2018 - 16:43

              @Mozzlah: Use GPU-Z rather than CPU-Z

              https://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/

              • Mozzlah on 21/12/2018 - 16:56

                @Agret: Says the same thing. Thanks for the help tho

                • Mozzlah on 21/12/2018 - 17:16

                  @Mozzlah: I opened up the case and had a look at the stickers on the card.Vapor X - R9 280x sapphire

                  • thearbiter117 on 21/12/2018 - 18:26
                    +1

                    @Mozzlah: it wont be a massive step up in performance, but if you sell the 2 games you get and sell your current card the upgrade would be basically free. so could be worth doing.

  • Bargain4Days on 21/12/2018 - 16:15

    Thanks OP, bought 1, got last one at Auburn, so dont bother if you are heading there

  • ouryou on 21/12/2018 - 16:22

    Just picked up one at Ultimo.Thanks.

    • homersyd on 21/12/2018 - 16:37

      anymore? it says out of stock now…

      • ouryou on 21/12/2018 - 17:11

        I didn't ask but it might be the last one.
        It said in stock on website when I bought it.

  • OneJay on 21/12/2018 - 16:47

    Currently running an i7 920 and an HD6850.

    I get 10-15 fps on PUBG and maybe 20 fps on Witcher 2.

    If I get this RX570 will the first gen i7 still cause a bottleneck?

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