Vexatious Neighbour - What Are My Options?

Hello brains trust,

EDIT 1:
Thank you all for sharing your insights with me. I really appreciate how this community has provided me with feedback that I can make use of. To be honest I kind of already knew where I stood - but it's good to have the validation.

Looks like the best we can hope for is he sells his house. Otherwise we would be moving out for sure..

EDIT 2:
After reading and sifting through all the great responses from the community I have come to the following conclusions:

1. He can access our real names by getting a certificate from landrata.vic.gov.au.
2. He may be mentally ill.
3. I may be up against an uphill battle here.
4. My sanity is also important.

I do appreciate each and every one of you adding valuable input into this discussion. Even the ones who think I smoke like a chimney because they didn't read the rest of the thread (couple of you - not even worth pointing out but just to set record straight).

I will be signing off this thread now however feel free to direct message me with ideas on how to deal with him - even if it just for amusement! Our brains are tired from trying to think of the next move when all we want to do is think about living our life and planning our future. I think we will be moving out when our 12 month tenure is up (first home buyers). Hopefully we can go back to where we were renting!

Thank you all again!

Hoping to get some help from the community as I get a bit emotional and irrational at times when I think about my situation. I have seen discussion topics on this forum offer the full spectrum of feedback and even the cynicism is welcome if it sheds some new light! Like I said - I am at a bit of a loss on what my options are..

My wife and I moved into our first home about 4 months ago. What was meant to be a new chapter for us has very well delivered on that front but not what we were expecting. We recently bought a duplex townhouse in the Brunswick Area. There are 8 units on the block - broken into 2 rows of 5 units and then 3. The units share walls on the same row (expect for the ones on the end). Our unit is at the end of the first row.

When we first moved in our neighbour introduced himself to us as a VCAT member - all very cordial and stuff - but I realised that he had gone through our bins as he was using some cardboard boxes that seemed familiar. I asked him if he fished them out of our bin - and he said yes and that it's a good thing I forgot to put our bins out (perhaps a passive transgression - but I didn't think too much of it).

The week after he saw me and my wife having a cigarette on our balcony. He poked his head around the shared wall and exclaimed "I didn't know you smoked!". Before I had an opportunity to say anything he had turned around and walked back into his unit slamming the door behind him. The next day I said hi to him and he just gave me the death stare saying he doesn't speak to smokers. I said I didn't mean to upset him - if my smoking is an issue (maybe it's getting into his house through windows or whatever) that I would adjust my habits as I want to get along with my neighbours. He scoffs - and then slams the door in my face again.

At this point I was a little worked up - but didn't act on it as I have a wife and a dog and don't want any unnecessary trouble. I was also confused that my smoking a cigarette got such a reaction out of someone. A few days later as I walked past the front of his house (we share a walkway at the front of our units) I brushed one of his plants (it was sticking out) as I was walking my dog in the morning. There was no damage to his plants. He catches up to me - looks dead straight ahead and says "the next time you touch my plants I'm gonna chop your fingers off". I pick up my dog and ask him "are you alright in the head mate? What if I threatened you with loss of your digits?" He said "I'm standing right here come say it to my face." At this point I said "not worth it - come back when you understand what civil discourse is" and walked off. I called the police and went to the local station to do a report. The police officer whom I spoke to said he can definitely attend but at this stage, without evidence, it is my word against his. And - erring on the side of caution - I decided not to proceed but made a statutory declaration of the event and this was certified by the officer. I also thought to myself that if this person is even a little bit unhinged - I wonder what his next step would be if I triggered him more? I didn't want to find out. From this point onwards the harassment/intimidation/stalking/berating took on new heights.

A few examples:
1. Banging on my door at 6pm on a Friday night whilst my wife is watching TV - multiple times
2. Banging through the shared wall on weekdays - again when my wife is watching TV - multiple times
3. Calling us "typical smelly Indian c$%ts" - we are brown skinned but not Indian (fair mistake but not the point) - at least a handful of times
4. Making noises as he walks past the front of our house to trigger our dog - ALL THE TIME
5. Going through our bins (which we don't have evidence of - but we have evidence of him going through at least 2 other residents' bins - both female - at least twice
6. Spending inordinate amounts of time doing gardening to the common areas - which he is unauthorised to do as he is not licensed/insured/contracted - ALL THE TIME in defiance of explicit instruction from the BodyCorporate (of which I am a committee member)
7. Spraying the front of our unit as well as another unit w/ a pet cat with chemicals and white powders excessively - evidence will show he purposefully goes back to these units to spray additional quantities - singling us out - at least WEEKLY but on occasion 2-3 days in a row.
8. Testing the infrared sensors on our cameras by testing how long it takes for the motion sensor to switch off - SUPER CREEPY
9. Stalking my friends and, more importantly, my wife's friends a whole lot more - videoing their cars as they drive off
10. Doing works to common property at odd hours - e.g. spraying chemicals in front of our unit at 10pm (amongst other incidents)

Now he has made false allegations about our Body Corporate Manager which prompted an investigation but ultimately resulted in no action as the basis of the complaints were of a vexatious nature and lacked substance. Clutching at straws as it was put to us. We have come to learn that out of the 8 units in the block - the neighbour has ongoing disputes/issues with residents from 4 units. And that is not counting the people who have moved out because of his antics. Once he finds out the name of whoever he has an issue with - he takes it further by making complaints of a vexatious nature that ultimately don't go anywhere but obviously take up time and resources.

We have been advised to take out a Personal Safety Intervention Order a few times now. I have found that this means releasing our real names to the respondent which we are not very keen on. We have very unique names and as such - wouldn't take too much snooping around online to find out where we work and what else we get up to including social media.

There is definitely more to this - but again I am not being very objective here because of my proximity to the situation. I would love to hear from people who have anything to add to this.

Many thanks,

S

Comments

  • +11

    You're up shit creek…IMO

    • +48

      Just band together with the other residents at the next tribal council and vote him out…

      If only it was that simple!

      • +9

        I have fantasised about a Survivor style vote off. It helps me sleep at night.

      • +1

        I wanted to + vote you and help you get over the badge-line to 30 but I ran out of votes :(

        • +1

          That's OK bud, I've been riding on upvote fumes for months too. We all need to curb our positivity in these dry times.

          But we still have emojis! 🤗

  • +26

    Keep a diary of all these incidents. The more detailed the better.

    Calling us "typical smelly Indian c$%ts"

    Record this.

    Going through our bins

    Set up cameras (but be careful it only records what's on your/public property).

    Spending inordinate amounts of time doing gardening to the common areas - which he is unauthorised to do as he is not licensed/insured/contracted - ALL THE TIME in defiance of explicit instruction from the BodyCorporate

    You can issue breach notices and fine him (as Body Corporate, not individually).

    Now he has made false allegations

    Go to your body corp manager for advice, but keep a record of these, how they were dealt with, and their outcomes (i.e. investigated but found to be unsupported allegation, etc).

    We have been advised to take out a Personal Safety Intervention Order a few times now.

    See if you can withhold your full/real names. For obvious reasons (at least in the jurisdictions I'm aware of), this is possible. Just a note - your names are likely already easily discoverable if you're owners of the property.

    • +17

      your names are likely already easily discoverable if you're owners of the property.

      Probably already has them from going through the mail.

      • +1

        Other residents have noted their mail being rummaged through..

    • +3

      Calling us "typical smelly Indian c$%ts"

      Record this.
      - we have.

      You can issue breach notices and fine him (as Body Corporate, not individually).
      - we have started taking action (I am on the Body Corp Committee). I started talking to my Body Corp Manager straight away after the first incident and have since acquired a heap of footage of him behaving like this. We called the AGM early - established new committee for the year without him - and proceeded to take Body Corp Matters officially into our hands. He still continues to do this despite being sent a warning. After the AGM he slandered the Body Corp manager which resulted in an investigation that ultimately didn't go anywhere. He has always sent correspondences to the Body Corp on a weekly basis - complaining about the orientation of bin handles and candles on somebody's front porch, or my standing next to shrubbery (too close in his opinion - I'm "killing the F$%kin plants" cuz we're "d!$kheads". My Body Corp manager has adopted a firm restraint policy on this individual - making sure we do not open ourselves up to any possible claim from this individual. As we are quite aware of his tendencies - we are only going to send breach notices once the new insured/licensed/contracted gardener schedules maintenance work - which means the Body Corp has done their due diligence.

      See if you can withhold your full/real names. For obvious reasons (at least in the jurisdictions I'm aware of), this is possible. Just a note - your names are likely already easily discoverable if you're owners of the property.
      - I've inquired about this - we CANNOT get around the fact that we have to release our names.

      • +2

        Wow. This guy sounds like a nasty piece of work.

  • +10

    Welcome to Strata Living Nightmares.

    Pretty sure Ozb suggested 1 to 10, maybe one below is your neighbor here.

    https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/370602
    https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/321706
    https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/181702

  • +17

    read this one

    our neighbour introduced himself to us as a VCAT member

    i.e. - "I have authority, don't mess with me - and you should respect me!"

    guy sounds like a douche bag.

    I'd complain to VCAT about one of their members acting in such a fashion.

    • +3

      Petty tyrants are really the worst kind of tyrants.

      • +2

        My thoughts exactly - although it took us a while to kind of take it all in. Initially we just thought he was very community minded - doing all the gardening work and other works to common areas. Our ignorance slowly faded away when we realised he does this to spy on residents. Another female owner/occupier has been dealing with his passive aggressive BS for 5 years now. She installed a camera not long after moving in as well - but installed it in a way that it is easy for someone to pull up from behind/side and not get caught (blind spot). He tried to remove the camera once but got disturbed. I mean - she didn't see his face on the footage - but any number of guesses? Yes we have adopted this frame of mind where we are biased.

        Now he has tried to test our motion sensors at night as well - quite brazenly because he is in full view. He would move - watch the infrared lights come on - count how long it would take to switch off - then move again repeat ad nauseam. It only lasted 5 minutes but those were really long 5 minutes for my wife. Once he tried to reach for the camera from the blind spot but his face was behind the wall - he couldn't reach it. We didn't confront him over this because we know he is going to deny it due to lack of direct evidence.

        Another unit's residents placed a Mario world mushroom sculpture at the front of their unit because they are quirky kids. Whatever. He first off told them that it doesn't fit in with the "regime" of the block and that they will have to remove it. They said no - he basically just smashed it and when confronted straight up "where's your proof?"

        • +5

          Honestly, enough "small" or "no hard evidence" incidents and you could report it to the police for harassment. Police apply common sense too, your neighbour won't get away with a "I'm not touching you I'm not touching you" schoolyard logic.

        • +1

          Photo or video that shit!

    • +10

      Um, doesn't it seem odd that he'd introduce himself as "a VCAT member"?

      I'm calling BS on him. Sounds likes he's not the full biscuit.

      • +14

        Turns out - he has a habit of pretending!
        Confirmed to be a VCAT EMPLPOYEE ONLY by the complaints registrar.

        • +2

          I would consider speaking to someone at VCAT and informing them that he is passing himself off as a VCAT member. It is certainly unacceptable conduct for a government employee.

  • +37

    Guess you know why the place was for sale.

    • Sadly probably true

    • I have counted stories of at least 2 prior residents/group of residents who have moved out due to his antics.

      He took out an intervention order against a couple he had a beef with. They ended up doing the right thing by fighting it all the way - only for the neighbour to not show up to the court hearing. Classic waste of time and resources strategy - which is what we are trying to avoid.

  • +3

    he doesn't speak to smokers.

    Some who says this and then says this

    come say it to my face

    is full of shit. He is either a proper nut job or a prepubescent lil biatch.

    "I'm a MMA fighter and I'll kick your ass but I don't wanna ruin my nails", said nobody ever.

    • +22

      "I'm a MMA fighter and I'll kick your ass but I don't wanna ruin my nails", said nobody ever.

      I say that all the time, I've a good mind to come over and kick your ass for that comment but I've just done my nails.

      You're on thin ice buddy, so watch it!

      • +5

        And I'd run into the fight but my sneakers are brand new.

        And I don't speak to people that put people on thin ice.

        • Yeah, ya prepubescent lil biatch, why if my cat wasn't asleep on my lap I'd I'd I'd… do stuff!

          but my sneakers are brand new.

          Say Kanye, is that you: https://youtu.be/OkoYvigvxC4?t=412?

          • +3

            @D C: You have a cat? I don't speak to cat people.

            Ps. I can't be Kanye. I can read.

    • +3

      I'd classify him as a proper nutjob.

      No friends. No hobbies. I'd feel sorry for him if it weren't for the daily dose of vitriol. We even offered to cook him dinner once because he told us he lives alone..

  • +7

    You poor things - living next to a psycho sucks!

    If you've been to any strata meetings your names might be available anyway (in meeting minutes), maybe check that and then if they are available don't worry about it too much when taking out the intervention order.

    • +2

      I have checked the AGM. It doesn't list my name - but it lists my wife's first name initial and then her surname - which is misspelled.
      We have opted to leave this as it is.

      Also - I will disclose that the Body Corporate Manager was very careful in addressing me - using my alias versus my real name. I think he had a good inkling about the neighbour and - as I said earlier - chose his words carefully.

      It was after the AGM that the neighbour launched proceedings against the Body Corporate Manager accusing him of singling out the neighbour. Nothing happened beyond that - but I know that the neighbour has spread slander on the internet - making false allegations against the Body Corporate company and our Body Corp manager.

      • +2

        How hard would it be to find out your name if he wants to though?

        He could go through your letterbox. Or he could rummage through the bins (which you mention he already has).

        • I'd imagine if he gets his hands on my name I'd know about it within a short period of time..
          I don't throw letters with names out in the rubbish.

          Our letterbox is locked.

          Our bins have cameras on them - he knows this too.

      • If you bought the property, he can just do a title search to find out your full legal name.

        • I can see that landrata.vic.gov.au provides this type of information:
          Electronic Instrument
          Electronic Instrument
          Property Transaction Alert (3 months)
          Verify Title
          Dealings on Title
          Title History Search Statement
          Land Index Search
          Copy of Plan
          Owners Corporation Basic Report
          Land Tax Certificate
          Vicroads Certificate
          Section 151 Certificate from Owners Corporation
          Heritage Certificate (Sec 58)
          Land Information Certificate
          Land Information Certificate (Priority)
          Building Approval 51 (1)
          Building Approval 51 (2)
          Flood Level
          Planning Certificate Express
          Planning Property Report
          Mine Subsidence
          Designated Bushfire Prone Area(s)
          Catchment & Land Protection
          Sale History Report
          Water Information Statement
          Special Meter Reading
          Sewers and Drains Plan
          Asset Plan
          Rates Settlement Statement
          Sewer Depth & Offset Plan
          Crown Land Agricultural License Search
          National Trust Certificate
          Extract of Priority Sites Register

          They all cost a fee. Can anyone confirm that any of these requests would release our real names to the requester?

          • +1

            @skhan86: Yes I can confirm. Who owns land is public record. You just have to pay a fee. Now if you bought it under a trust, then it would list the trust for example.

            You can buy the title by clicking on "Order a copy of title or plan".

      • How do you know about the slander online? Care to share a link?

        Rather curious and would love to see what he has posted

  • +38

    My nearest neighbour is 1km away. I'll think of you tonight while I am walking around my yard naked with my stereo blasting.

    Welcome to strata living.

    • Don't forget the sunscreen.

    • Thanks for the pangs of jealousy!

      • +1

        Until you have to mow the lawn lol

    • +4

      I live on a 450sqm block, still walk around naked in my home.

    • +1

      I am walking around my yard naked

      Might be a bit cold tonight - watch out for shrinkage!

  • +5

    It's gonna be your word vs his. Thankfully OZB offers a great selection of video camera deals to catch this psycho!

  • +12

    Well done for keeping your cool.

    We’re not really used to dealing with physical threats and a lot of agro, as a modern society, so it’s understandable that it’s upsetting that this chap has threatened you.

    The police report is a really smart move. Just keep documenting everything.

    • People just need to harden up, he threatened to take ops fingers, at this point op should have reported him fir racial discrimination.

      • +2

        People just need to harden up, he threatened to take ops fingers, at this point op should have reported him fir racial discrimination.

        hmm.. . I really wouldn't call "reporting someone" as "hardening up".

        And since when is a threat to chop off fingers a racial thing? It's not like only certain races have fingers… haha

        • Yeh muddled my point, i was gona say op should have chopped off his then thought better of it, you never know whos reading and what theyll do.

          • @Seedy seed: I know what you mean though.. sometimes, you've just go to do what you've got to do (and then just never tell anyone!) haha.

            Maybe some weed killer to start with…

            • +3

              @bobbified: These are dark thoughts but I'm not unfamiliar with them. I am not green around the thumbs when it comes to covert ops (I've played heaps of Metal Gear Solid guys).

              I have had offers of..assistance shall we say? Not something I want to get involved with.

              • @skhan86: All I have to say is, sometimes you have to fight fire with fire.

                • +4

                  @bobbified: Which is fair and I get it too.

                  I am not comfortable with challenging someone who is unhinged - there is a certain sense of unpredictability that comes with my assessment of his psychological profile. Again - I might be in a different frame of mind if I didn't have a wife and a dog.

                  • +1

                    @skhan86: He's been doing it to the neighbours for years, so I can't see him backing down any time soon. If he thinks you're weak, it'll either continue or it could even get worse.

                    • +1

                      @bobbified: I actually agree with that somewhat. Should I invite him for a round in the ring maybe?
                      Settle it like gents? I'd be up for that.

                      • +2

                        @skhan86: Forget the ring! I'd recommend a good sesh of Smash Bros Ultimate!

                      • @skhan86:

                        Should I invite him for a round in the ring maybe?

                        I would actually push his buttons on purpose and then be prepared. (But I wouldn't recommend that to everyone).

                        And no matter what he says.. Don't make any threats you're not willing to carry out.

                        To put it simply though, it's really your decision to "fight" or "flight".

                  • +1

                    @skhan86:

                    I am not comfortable with challenging someone who is unhinged

                    Smart thinking. He is probably capable of things that a you'd assume a normal person wouldn't even consider. Whether or not it would cause him to get locked up afterwards is no comfort if you or your loved ones have been hurt, or your property badly damaged.

                    • +1

                      @Quantumcat: My thoughts exactly.

                      I mean an intervention order is more of an insurance policy rather than deterrent. If you're unhinged enough - that's all I need to fear losing what I don't want to.

  • +12

    Invest in your own personal cameras that work without sensors

    go buy a closed circuit camera and record everything. Make sure the cameras also record audio
    submit a request to your strata board that people are banging on our door at night and you want to put up a camera, if they reject it due to installation issues state you will use adhesive instead.

    PM me if you need assistance picking up a camera system. I've installed several systems and can walk you through it

    • I would be cautious about CCTV that can record audio.
      Ensure that in Victoria you are allowed to do this.
      I know there is some restrictions in some states.
      I did a quick google on Vic but couldn't find anything other than: https://www.smartsafe.org.au/legal-guides/legal-guide-survei…
      "It is an offence for a person to knowingly install, use or maintain a listening device to overhear, record, monitor or listen to a private conversation to which the person is not a party without the permission of each party to the conversation."

      Whether this applies to CCTV I can't be sure.
      Good advice, though, I'd definitely be getting cameras, even an off the shelf video doorbell that records continuously

      • Yes, in most States it's illegal to record a conversation that you're not party to (including CCTV audio).

        Even though many security cameras have a function to record audio, most security camera software will have an option (tick box) to disable the audio recording.

    • Thanks @ YLD1

      I installed wireless cameras. They are sensor driven. They capture enough IMHO.

      Strata did not need to get involved for me to put cameras at the front of my own property i.e. porch.

  • +17

    Vexatious, that's a nice word

  • +9

    Been there done that….ended up selling the house and moving out even though we had been there years longer and the neighbor from Hell was a renter, it was just not worth the mental anguish dealing with police and court cases constantly and the direction it was heading was spiraling downward fast.
    Anyhoo we sucked up our pride and moved to a rural 28 acre property not a neighbor in sight and the neighbors we do have are Great… There is no easy fix for those situations except to leave. Best thing we ever did.
    Sorry if that is not what you want to hear…i feel for you guys though.

    • +1

      This was the response I was hoping not to find..

    • +2

      This is unfortunately probably the best answer.

      I am in a similar situation myself with a convicted rapist who was released from prison a couple of years ago living in the neighborhood and causing problems (drug addict with anger issues) and we are considering moving house (we own so does the rapist)

      • Wow @seano2101 that sounds intense!

        Nothing of that sort here I'm hoping. But he does have a habit of targeting women with his intimidation/harassment.

  • +11

    If he's a VCAT member why don't you wear a body cam & get him on camera making racist remarks etc and leak it the press or put in on VCAT facebook page?

    • He's was probably talking crap.

      • +2

        I have since made complaints to VCAT about this individual.

        I submitted a plethora of footage demonstrating the points I have listed above in my original post.

        Turns out - he has a habit of pretending! He is NOT a VCAT MEMBER - just an employee.

        He has a habit of pretending to be Body Corp to some residents and their guests as well. He is not on the committee anymore.

        • +2

          What did VCAT say about their employee?

          • +2

            @orangetrain: They have not gotten back to me yet with an outcome - but the complaints registrar who received my correspondence along with the evidence mentioned that the behaviour is definitely appalling. He encouraged me to send more.

        • +2

          I work for a government department. Some of our people have a law enforcement role and others have a money collection role. If any of the rest of us pretended to have either of those authorities (or misrepresent ourselves in some manner) it would make The Spanish Inquisition look like amateur hour.

          If you can get multiple pieces of evidence of him misrepresenting himself or trying to "intimidate" you through his role or purported employment his life will be a misery.

          Good luck

          • @brad1-8tsi: Unfortunately it was one of the first few exchanges that we had before things went south.
            It is something I do not have any evidence of.

            But I have evidence of him pretending to be Body Corporate when he is not.

        • +3

          Turns out - he has a habit of pretending! He is NOT a VCAT MEMBER - just an employee.

          That should be enough to get him pulled up at work.

  • +15

    Hate to say it but you will never win. I have seen it all before with residents my building. The anguish and endless cycle of police reports and court cases is enough to disrupt anyone's lives. You will never be able to compete with someone that has dedicated their life to make your lives a living hell. The guy is most likely mentally unstable but unfortunately there is nothing you/police/courts can really do unless either:

    • The harassment becomes physical in which case it becomes a criminal matter and finally cops can maybe do something
    • You and strata are prepared to spend an obscene amount of money on lawyers to have the person declared as vexatious by the courts and even then this takes years.

    If this goes up a notch, be prepared for possible avenues that the mentally disturbed person can take. You may think the law is on your side but it can be used against you too:
    - Call cops. Yes they are fault but they can easily manipulate facts to suit their narrative. The cops come, speak to everyone but nothing really happens
    - Raise VCAT cases against you. Again the allegations can be baseless but that doesn't stop VCAT from operating and wanting you to attend and provide details

    I know a lot of people will want to fight for what is right but at the end of the day you will end up losing a lot of valuable time, effort and money on your part. It will also seriously degrade your mental health. It is far easier to just quit and leave.

    • +1

      Could not upvote this enough. No point fighting it, although it doesn't sound fair, you can never win this. Take this good man's advice and just leave.

    • +1

      I really really want to believe in a world where your word is not gospel..

      • +1

        I really do too. But reality is different. Take it from someone that has been through it, I would not wish it on anyone.

        Even when the whole strata is against the one person, the one person can raise enough hell to prevent the whole strata from doing anything.

        • That is what we are also slowly realising.
          Hence why our Body Corporate manager has adopted a firm restraint policy on dealing with this individual so at no point can he make a claim of being singled out by anybody.

          Which means it drags on for longer. But there are steps in place for us right now. Here's hoping we can mitigate in the mean time whilst we wait for mid-next year to move out.

          • +1

            @skhan86: Be thankful you have a manager that is willing to deal with him. Buy your manager a drink the next time you see him/her!!

            You can only imagine the crap the manager cops from this individual. I can imagine if they ever call the quits you will find it very hard to find someone else willing to manage you.

            • @monkeybusiness: @monkeybusiness I wholeheartedly agree! I have voiced my thanks to him on a number of occassions - and have invited him for a block bbq!

              My enemy's enemy is my best friend.

  • +8

    What the hell do you mean spraying your unit with chemicals. (profanity) that, no one would be allowed to spray my property with anything without my permission.

    It's too bad you have a missus in the house, or you could really ramp this war up. I personally would be starting with running my hand along those plants every time I see him there. Also rig you bin so that it sets off an air horn when opened, or something similar. Something easily bypassed if you know how.

    • +2

      I think that is more the crux of the problem - I have a wife and dog. I do NOT want anything untoward to happen to them. But he is already targeting her by stalking her friends and targeting my dog by spraying copious amounts of chemicals at the front of our unit.

      Would've been much easier to deal with if just me.

    • +1

      that air horn idea is genius

    • +28

      Got all the evidence in the world buddy - great jump to conclusion though try the olympics.

      • -3

        The police could care less about some petty neighbourhood rubbish with everything else going on around

        • +2

          Thanks for your input.

  • +2

    It is not unlawful to covertly record in Victoria as it is a one party state. Record his racist rants and have him charged for racial abuse post online and link to his work place. Record him at all times - get home security cameras and dash cams. If he doesn't know he is being recorded he will eventually slip up and do something illegal and you will have proof for the police.

    Don't bother with an AVO (unless they are physically violent), and you are prepared to spend $15,000+ and waste time attending court.

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