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One of the better RTX2070's out there imo and is compartivly close to the 1080ti in performace and a bit more future proof. Plus RGB for further Ray Tracing enhancement*
*prolli doesnt.
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MSI RTX 2070 8GB Gaming Z Video Card $976.65 + $15 Delivery (Free with eBay Plus) @ Computer Alliance eBay
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If only that price could come back now.
I'd still wait for RTX features to show up in games before deciding if a 2070 is worth nearly 2x the cost of a 1080 considering it's around the same performance, or a 2080 is worth it for the increase in RTX performance compared to the 2070.
2 months since release and no games support RTX yet :(
I find it weird having to purchase a card for what you think the performance might be in the future, rather than having actual numbers to back those thoughts up.
I'd still wait for RTX features to show up in games before deciding if a 2070 is worth nearly 2x the cost of a 1080
Exaggerating just a tad? The cheapest brand new GTX1080 I can find is around the ~$700 mark.
@magic8ballgag: A little bit which was why I used the '~', but there's been quite a few below the $600 mark over the last few months
https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/390525
https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/390348@c0balt: Fair enough, I guess if you're looking to upgrade an existing system/build then a 1080 may be a better option, but I personally will be using a RTX card in my new build.
The gigabyte rtx2070 goes for $799.95 on eBay. Further 5% off as well.
Whilst the MSI May be better, that’s still a big difference in price.
jesus christ these cards cost a fortune.
is there any RTX benchmarks out yet? do we know if turning it on tanks the framerate?
https://vimeo.com/290465222 Some good analysis. There’s another one around showing three comparisons at once (2080 ti, 2080 and 1080 ti) running at 1440p, but I can’t find it now. The 2080 ti was averaging between 60-65 FPS by the looks of it.
hmm, that doesn't really help.
before dropping any cash on one of these cards, i think it's pretty important to have benchmark results from a game with RTX off - then the same games with RTX on. If the framerate stays the same, that's awesome. If the frame rate drops by 20% - 30% (or more?) then whats the point?
Framerates will drop massively with RTX on; no need to wait for benchmarks.
However, these cards aren't there just for RTX. Personally I bought one (RTX 2080) as the price difference wasn't massive over the equivalent speed 10 series (1080 Ti ~= RTX 2080), but you get newer tech (RTX, but also particularly DLSS; high level AA with less performance impact).
https://m.newegg.com/global/au/product/N82E16814137364 isn't this cheaper or am I missing something?
The price in your link doesn't include GST
Actually the price with GST is listed (free shipping too) and it's still cheaper than the one listed in this thread.
You're missing ease of RMA depending on the brand. That's about it…
Delivery time too, if that matters to people.
RTX 2070, ~$700 vs GTX 1080, ~$600
RTX 2080, ~$1,100 vs GTX 1080 Ti, ~$900
RTX 2080 Ti, eye watering ~$2,000
GTX Titan V, money no object ~$4,0000If you're buying new and need it now, the RTX are not too bad price wise except for the RTX 2080 Ti.
If you don't mind used, the Pascal cards are great value compared to RTX.
However, I just feel Turing on 12nm is a temporary stop gap for NVIDIA, and they'll release a proper RTX 3000 series next year on TSMC 7nm.
Hopefully with much improved ray tracing and rasterization performance but who knows, with AMD graphics division the way it is, NVIDIA may just decide to milk Turing like they did with Pascal.
My 2c.It's more like:
$50 between the 2070 and the 1080
$100 between the 2080 and the 1080ti
$1800 for the 2080Ti, which is very close to a Titan (that is no longer a gaming brand for NVIDIA).TSMC 7nm clearly requires a chiplet design for HPC, and takes what would otherwise be 2.7x-3x density improvement over 16nm/14nm/12nm and seems to turn it into as little as 2x.
Best case scenario for 7nm NVIDIA products next year is something along the lines of RTX 2050 and 2060, and a new Titan card later in the year as TSMC's 7nm+ starts appearing (and Samsung's 7nm EUV for that matter).
That may be so but I wouldn't put my hopes into any cards below the RTX 2070 to have RTX and the associated cores. The same leak that revealed the RTX branding on the new 2000 series cards point to all cards below the RTX 2070 to retain the GTX branding with no RTX features. This makes sense since even the RTX 2080 Ti took a big hit in performance when ray tracing is used so it doesn't make sense to give the 2060 and below those features as they will most likely perform like a turd.
As for TSMC 7nm requiring chiplet designs, I wouldn't know since I'm no expert. CPU and GPU design is different but they are sort of converging. GPUs are designed for throughput and highly parallel with vastly more tiny cores compared to CPU but new AMD chips are increasing the core count significantly. Still, we are talking 64 AMD cores vs 4352 CUDA cores, granted, they are quite different cores.
It's great to have competition in the CPU space. Now if only AMD's graphics division could do the same, I'd be happy. I'd love to go back to AMD cards since I use a PLP monitor configuration but they lack the performance in the high end and I believe NVIDIA surround doesn't yet support PLP setups. Probably never will since it's a niche.
http://benchmark.finalfantasyxv.com/result/
Scroll down to the 4k benchmarks, and you'll see a 'NVIDIA Graphics Device'. It's almost exactly 65% of the performance of the 2080, just like the 2070 is almost exactly 65% of the performance of the 2080ti.
That's almost certainly a 12nm RTX 2060, which almost certainly means there will be no cards from NVIDIA on TSMC's 7nm other than an RTX 2050, which in turn is probably going to be on 10nm, the original node picked for Turing.
As for features, 1440p DLSS is already a thing as shown in testing of the UE4 Infiltrator demo, which aligns with cards at rasterisation performance levels of the 1070ti and above the 1060. And if 1440p DLSS is a thing, then 1080p DLSS 2x is also a thing.
Moving over to RT features, the talk right now is that you only wind up at 1080p60 if you try and implement all RT feature simultaneously (and poorly). DLSS can speed things up 35-40% currently (and that can improve over time), and we're already seeing the potential massive shader speedups once you use mesh shading-related features, though those aren't technically part of the RTX features.
Further to that, we've seen with Enlisted that a single RT feature doesn't slow things down at all, as that game operates at 4k 90 fps on a 2080ti. Truth is, we don't know what performance is really like, or what the range of quality is from lowest options to highest. Personally, I'm optimistic considering that 1080p60 is what happened with pre-alpha builds.
@jasswolf: Well, that would be great but I'm usually more reserved so I don't get dissapointed. ;)
Anyways, I wouldn't use FFXV as it's horribly implemented on the PC as tested by Gamers Nexus.
DLSS is a great feature on RTX if it comes to lower end cards but is the quality good enough.
Personally, I don't think I'll need AA on 4K PC monitors, maybe on larger TV sizes.@AkaMoka: I'm only using it as a measure of relative performance. It's just too on the money to be anything other than RTX 2060, because a smaller die would have higher clocks still.
AA @ 4k still matters, as you'll see shimmering effects with things like wire fences, as well as other jaggies.
This is shocking, a 2070 should sell for no more than a 1080.
Lol at this price rtx 2000 series is a joke
The price creep on these nvidia cards is real.
1070 was under $600.
RTX3070 will probably start at $1200.
It's what happens when there are no competition from AMD unfortunately.
I feel like if you're going to spend that much, you may as well spend the extra ~$100-150 for an RTX 2080:
https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/410249
https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/408070