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  KevinL on 22/10/2018 - 16:50

  +3

  Note: Laws vary between states, please check your local laws to find out the latest information about electric scooters.

  Free shipping to NSW where they are illegal to ride on public roads/footpaths eh

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    mskeggs on 22/10/2018 - 18:22

    If you want to get around (your own private property only).

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  ZackyD on 22/10/2018 - 17:02

  +1

  I am really tempted to get one to help my commute. It's a 2.4km or 23 min walk from the station to my work place and I'd love to save the time walking.

  But it seems like this is illegal to use in NSW?

  "Powered foot scooters and skateboards cannot be registered and can only be used on private land"
  https://roadsafety.transport.nsw.gov.au/stayingsafe/pedestri…

  Does anyone use one in the Sydney CBD and not gotten fined?

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    yummypinacolada on 22/10/2018 - 17:10

    +2

    It's indeed illegal, but I see lots of people strolling around with their electric scooter or skateboard everyday. So I'm pretty sure not many people get caught riding it.

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      mskeggs on 22/10/2018 - 18:21

      -1

      I don’t know if that is true.
      I see people riding these past me on my walk from the station, but don’t see them again a few weeks later.
      I suspect the cops warn them about the >$1500 fine and they stop riding.

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        yummypinacolada on 22/10/2018 - 23:44

        +1

        I saw at least 10 people riding electric scooter everytime I'm at sydney CBD. I don't know whether they ever get a warning or fine from cops, but I believe cops are pretty lenient about things like this as long as you riding it responsibly. Again, I'm not saying that you will definitely get away with it.

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          BadGiraffe on 23/10/2018 - 11:22

          +1

          @yummypinacolada: My guess is, if you get into an accident, the law will definitely not be on your side, and you pay for damages AND a fine.

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    bargaino on 22/10/2018 - 17:21

    It's a 2.4km or 23 min walk from the station to my work place and I'd love to save the time walking.

    Why not just keep a cheap 1-speed bicycle at the station. Are there bike racks at your work?

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      ZackyD on 22/10/2018 - 17:45

      +4

      Embarrassing fact, Never learnt to ride a bike.. :'(

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        bargaino on 22/10/2018 - 17:56

        +5

        Its no harder to learn than a scooter.
        In fact, the best way to learn is to use it as a scooter. Kick yourself along. Once you can balance, put the pedals on.

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    paddy567 on 22/10/2018 - 19:24

    I see a guy riding one of these models on my walk from to town hall from my office. I presume he's yet to be fined.

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  Teliot on 22/10/2018 - 18:01

  No luck in Vic either :(

  https://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/safety-and-road-rules/road-r…

  What is a motorised scooter?

  A motorised scooter:

  has the same features as a foot scooter
  is moved by pushing one foot against the ground, by an electric motor, or by a combination of both
  has an electric motor with a maximum power output of 200 watts or fewer
  is not able to travel faster than 10 km/h when ridden on level ground.
  Your motorised scooter is classed as a motor vehicle if it:

  is powered by a petrol motor
  has a maximum power of more than 200 watts
  can go faster than 10 km/h.
  If your motorised scooter is classed as a motor vehicle it can only be used on the road if it is registered and the rider has a motorcycle licence or learner permit. But, you can use it on private property.

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    dexx on 22/10/2018 - 19:12

    If theres no markings on the scooter, cant you just claim its under 200W and make sure you stay under 10km/h?
    Hard to even know a scooter is motorised if the rider is careful not to hoon around.

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      trongy on 06/11/2018 - 22:32

      Hard to even know a scooter is motorised if the rider is careful not to hoon around.

      I generally spot an electric bike when the riders motion is out of proportion to their rider's apparent effort - especially when going uphill. Powered scooters would also be obvious for the same reason - as well as being bulkier than the non-powered versions.

      If you stay under 10km/h you might not attract police attention for now. However, they are getting more popular and sooner or later there will be a serious accident. Perhaps a child or pensioner gets knocked over and ends up in hospital. Cue the media coverage and predictable outrage on talk-back radio. The next thing you know there will be a police blitz and the average copper in the street will not have the discretion to turn a blind eye if you are not hooning.

      If there's no markings on the scooter, can't you just claim its under 200W… ?

      I think that line has been tried before and the police will have a way to handle it. I'm not sure how, but possibly they will give you an infringement notice with a choice of paying a fine, providing proof of compliance or a court summons.

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  poohduck on 22/10/2018 - 18:27

  Damn, we're going travelling, but leaving sat. Otherwise I would have considered these. A month in Thailand. We've taken fold up bikes before with 20" wheels, but lots of dismantling to get them into a suit case (everything has to be dismantled). Given up on that now. But these would be OK I think.

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    menvert on 22/10/2018 - 19:31

    +1

    Just the bit about - you need to take lithium batteries as carry on with most airlines I have been to. usually they're in the stem or deck on older ones, not necessarily easy to separate the battery on scooters

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    bargaino on 22/10/2018 - 19:37

    If your tried to ride this scooter on Thai roads, you'd soon miss those 20" pneumatic tyres!
    The 6" solid wheels need smooth paths to rise on.

    The advantage of the scooter is you can take it on public transport where folding bikes are banned.
    But how will this go on a plane? Need to be taken as cabin baggage with the Lipo batteries?

    What bike goes in a suitcase? Brompton? I just do the 30-second fold up on mine, and put it in a bike bag.
    No problem yet. It goes with the over-size baggage, so handled a bit less roughly than the suitcases by the airport gorillas.

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  Barbacana on 22/10/2018 - 19:55

  +1

  I've had one of this type of electric scooters that I used to commute from my house to work in Sydney.
  First of all even though it's illegal to use this type of electrical scooters I've never had an issue with the police, even though they saw me a couple of times they weren't bothered, that being said it's not guaranteed that YOU will not get on trouble.

  Now about this type scooters, mine had a smaller battery that it was supposed to run for max 12 km range BUT I was getting more like a max of 6 km so that's half the distance because you will run in 3rd gear(22-25 km/h) I guess if you will run in 1st gear (10-13 km/h)you can get a bit more distance on it. You have to make sure not to use it while it rains ( display is going to get soaked in water and you will not be able to read anything on it ) and try not to drop it on the ground because the plastic on the handles brakes easily.

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  kahn on 22/10/2018 - 21:30

  +1

  So this won't be delivered in time for Halloween. I was hoping to use this as past of my witch's costume. I'd pretend to be riding a broomstick between my legs (outside my pants, I've learned that the hard way).

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  yummypinacolada on 22/10/2018 - 23:48

  +1

  Why not just buy this from ebay for$384? I believe its the same chinese electric scooter, but its rebranded with different name.

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    lasterato on 23/10/2018 - 07:41

    It looks very different? Even smaller?

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  amanda89 on 23/10/2018 - 06:00

  It's also illegal to jaywalk but almost everyone does it

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    orangetrain on 23/10/2018 - 08:03

    Link? Jaywalking is not illegal otherwise pedestrian islands are traps.

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      cerealJay on 24/11/2018 - 15:23

      Jaywalking is of course illegal and cops fine people often for crossing on red man. I've seen people get fined in NSW and VIC in CBD and inner city areas.

      But yes… everyone does it. I think the cops should stop their revenue raising campaign and let this country live in the modern world without fining us for little things.

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        orangetrain on 26/11/2018 - 08:09

        The fine is actually for crossing the road while disobeying traffic instructions ie ignoring the stop walk red light.

        Have you eavesdropped on an officer ticketing someone?

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          cerealJay on 26/11/2018 - 18:53

          @orangetrain: No shit! Jaywalking is the word for the long sentence you just said.

          There is no "eavesdropping" happening when I make no attempt to conceal the fact I'm observing the fine being issued. Like when I'm also standing there as a pedestrian waiting for lights, and cannot help but witness the fine being issued.

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  Austaurean on 23/10/2018 - 08:18

  realise these are a different beast so to speak,
  not the same quality or anything and generally for older children, so as long as you are around 60 to 75kg, should be ok
  plus find out if they fit with what you need relatively cheaply and if you do get hit with a fine, then its only $99 for the scooter, not $600..

  Bigw $99.
  https://www.bigw.com.au/product/huffy-helix-12v-scooter/p/63…

  Kmart $99
  https://www.kmart.com.au/product/electric-scooter/1635890

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    mskeggs on 05/11/2018 - 06:37

    Just be aware the fine in NSW is over $1500 for riding an unregistered, uninsured vehicle.

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      Austaurean on 05/11/2018 - 08:10

      yes am aware, don't own one, but how convenient to park and then scoot etc the rest of the way to work..
      its crazy that these can be sold without also advertising that they are generally illegal to use on public space.

      I also think that the current road rules that govern transport have not kept up with technology.
      there probably should be some exceptions, i.e. power output, top speed etc to classify these as ok for certain public spaces
      and other higher density spaces could be sign posted as not being ok.

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        mskeggs on 05/11/2018 - 08:24

        I agree it is silly. While I don't especially want 100kg man hurtling towar dme on a power scooter as a stalk the footpath, they are much, much better than more car traffic.
        Better to have sensible regulation (say, a power ratio that makes them no faster than a jog) than a ban.

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      cerealJay on 24/11/2018 - 15:31

      When ridden on footpaths at a sensible speed, and giving way to pedestrians, you are within the law because you are on a "wheeled recreational device". Rego is not required unless riding on road, which most scooter riders don't do. You don't see cops chasing people on skateboards either, unless the skaters are disrupting or being stupid. Scooters are even more tame than skateboards because people don't ride scooters in packs! They don't do tricks like grind on benches either, so they really are quite harmless.

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        mskeggs on 24/11/2018 - 17:52

        This is only true for unpowered scooters, at least in NSW.

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          cerealJay on 24/11/2018 - 18:59

          @mskeggs: This is another reason why Melbourne is better than Sydney.

          I note that NSW law states "Powered foot scooters and skateboards cannot be registered". That's their primary reason for outlawing all powered wheeled devices.

          Obviously NSW law makers are in a holding pattern in regards to figuring out how to define the rules for powered foot scooters. The single sentence which wipes ALL powered devices from the world with one bullet point, is a sure sign they simply don't know what to do.

          During this holding pattern, I would encourage anyone to use powered wheeled devices on non-crowded footpaths, riding sensibly at no more than jogging speed. It really is that simple.

          I would also encourage authorities not to worry about power of the motor, but mandate that they have selectable "gears", a mode where it's not possible to go too fast when in first gear. Most scooters have this already.

          Currently cops are expected to examine the scooter and determine the wattage of the motor! Utterly ridiculous. Cops will not be able to do that. If cops are only required to determine the speed of the foot scooter, they could then choose to caution or fine rider of their excessive speed. Everyone happy, including pedestrians.

          It would actually be fun going to court in NSW and defending yourself against an unpaid fine for riding a powered foot-scooter at 5 km/h on a non-crowded NSW footpath. You could make their law look foolish very easily, and your fine would no doubt be waived. Scooters help people get to their destination quicker, therefore are good for the economy and happiness of people.

          There is no moral dilemma - except the one NSW authorities are burdened by when they outlaw all powered devices because they "can't be registered/taxed".

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  Look43Bs on 23/10/2018 - 10:56

  I saw a lot of these in Singapore a few weeks ago. Their newspaper reported that the Government were very concerned about safety …

  https://www.google.com.au/search?q=Singapore%2Barticle%2Bnew…