Holding Parking Space by Standing in It

Lpegasusx on 16/10/2018 - 13:25
Last edited 16/10/2018 - 15:30 by 1 other user

First time I've experienced this yesterday whilst parking inside Westfield. The green light on the ceiling lead me to a vacant space and as I pulled up, a man was standing in the space waving at me. He was on the mobile so initially thought he has mistaken my car. Waited for about 10 secs and realised he was waving me away! Finally dawned on me that he was holding the space for someone else. Basically called dibs on a space.

At this point, a number of thoughts and options went passed my mind, but I choose to drop off my wife/infant close to the shopping entrance and drive to look for another space.

Any one else come across this in Australia? I've been to a few other countries, i.e. Italy / Hongkong where I've seen this happen. Just never experienced it myself in Aus.

I understand that it's perfectly legal, just looked down upon as bad manners.

Automotive Parking

Comments

blehgg on 17/10/2018 - 10:18

I'd like to point out that this is not all asians… I'm asian and I hate this practice.

I don't blame every red haired person for the "It's OK to be white" movement….

Other than that I've had the other scenario when I've been indicating in a spot for ages. Someone comes around the corner, the parked car backs out and the other car steals my spot…

What can you do… ~ nothing ~ rude AHol3s
- GaryQ on 17/10/2018 - 14:13
  
  +1
  
  Park across the back of their car and walk off. They won't know you're not going to leave your car there for hours
markathome on 17/10/2018 - 10:19 Comment score below threshold.
- blehgg on 17/10/2018 - 10:25
  
  oBike - as in one of those yellow share bicycles?
  
  Unless its a Motorcycle, shouldn't you move your bicycle to the bike area? Instead of a Carpark spot in a busy shopping centre?
  
  Cause you're a person, not a vehicle….
  
  Other's have been circling around the car park for ages, doing the right thing. Just cause you hop out and stand in it doesn't make you have the space. I believe in first indicator, first serve.
- Ughhh on 17/10/2018 - 10:28
  
  https://www.melbourne.vic.gov.au/parking-and-transport/cycli…
  
  Why should people who own a car yet again be advantaged
  
  Because it's a car park. Designed and made for cars to park…
- h4zey on 17/10/2018 - 11:18
  
  +1
  
  are you a troll? because you sound like a troll.
- OzzyOzbourne on 17/10/2018 - 20:23
  
  +1
  
  Yeah, sometimes I just leave a bag of rubbish in a space in case I want to use it sometime. It's mine, mine, mine hahaha
- smartazz104 on 17/10/2018 - 21:56
  
  Except someone didn’t have the space. And what kind of a person parks a bicycle in a car space?
Flanders on 17/10/2018 - 10:49 Comment score below threshold.
- blehgg on 17/10/2018 - 11:20
  
  +8
  
  Hypothetical: I'm disabled, and also looking for a disabled spot ~ I've been driving 2 hours looking for a spot and now you're standing in it.
  
  I'm late for my appointment with the kids hospital where I volunteer. I now miss said appointment because you wanted to park closer. Little Timmy passes away before receiving the Super Gecko Muscle watch I promised him.
  
  You don't know the full circumstances either.
  
  Just don't stand in spots. Get a trolley if your back hurts instead of carrying stuff.
  
  If you're in a car, sure you can sit there and wait.
  
  If you're just standing there, get lost
  - Flanders on 17/10/2018 - 11:26
    
    -6
    
    Get a trolley if your back hurts instead of carrying stuff.
    
    You are assuming that I can push a heavy trolley long distances without further damage to my back disability.
    
    If you're in a car, sure you can sit there and wait.
    If you're just standing there, get lost.
    
    This defies logic, if I am car-less then I can't hold spot for disabled friend, if I have a car, I can . Why ??
    - blehgg on 17/10/2018 - 11:30
      
      +2
      
      Lovejoy's Law ~ Think of the Children.
      
      Hypothetically: How does your friend's disability outweigh mine?
      
      Logic.
      
      If you have a car - you're already legally parked in the spot…
      
      If you dont have a car, you are not legally parked in a spot.
      
      re: You are assuming that I can push a heavy trolley long distances without further damage to my back disability.
      
      - and parking a couple of spots closer will help this how?
      - Flanders on 17/10/2018 - 12:01
        
        -5
        
        @blehgg: Lol @ your 'logic' and reasoning .
        
        If you dont have a car, you are not legally parked in a spot.
        
        Lol. It is not a legal issue. Shopping centre parking .
        As a legal issue however, a pedestrian is legally allowed to to walk, stand, or sit in wheelchair within carpark. Legally, you certainly cannot run them over without going to prison.
        
        From a non-legal perspective, based on logic and ethical reasoning, how is standing in a spot holding it, any different to placing car in a spot holding it ?
        Both circumstances result in the spot being unavailable and exact same end result, carpark will be held for couple of minutes for friend or family whom you are on the phone with, to get into the held spot.
        
        As you said yourself;
        
        If you're in a car, sure you can sit there and wait.
        If you're just standing there, get lost.
        
        blehgg on 17/10/2018 - 12:10
        
        @Flanders: Ok - "Volenti non fit injuria" - while the practice of minding a space was not illegal, there were criminal offences for willingly putting yourself in danger.
        
        Your car in the spot is not willingly putting yourself in danger.
        
        You standing in the spot when there is an incoming car is illegal.
        
        Why do you choose to respond to some parts of the response, but not respond to other parts?
        
        how does your friend's disability / your disability outweigh anyone elses?
        
        try2bhelpful on 17/10/2018 - 12:19
        
        -3
        
        @blehgg: You are not "putting yourself in danger" by standing in a car parking spot; particularly if you were there first. If you were standing in the middle of the "road" that cars were travelling down you might have a point but even then the rule is car drivers should do what they can to avoid hitting other people.
        
        If you rang the cops to tell them someone was standing in a car parking spot and you want them to move them; they will send you packing (hopefully they will put down the receiver before they start laughing at you). However, if you try to run this person over, whilst they are standing there, or threaten them with violence then the cops will become very interested indeed.
        
        This issue is getting way out of control. A minor irritation on the road of life.
        
        blehgg on 17/10/2018 - 12:29
        
        @try2bhelpful: Debatable in Australia:
        
        There's been no such precedence that I can find. There's been no-one with road rage enough to attempt it - but maybe one day there will be.
        
        Are you willing to risk your life over a car park spot, when someone who is not mentally capable runs you over for standing in it?
        
        As someone stated earlier, it might not apply to Australia but there are laws overseas.
        
        Those who are on the road or at any parking spot (besides the authorities), with the intention of directing a driver to park or reserve a parking spot is deemed to have broken the law under Section 50(3) of the Road Transport Act 1987.
        
        try2bhelpful on 17/10/2018 - 12:36
        
        -2
        
        @blehgg: So the highlight is for a law overseas when we are talking about a private car park in Australia? BTW - there are laws overseas that I would absolutely not follow in Australia - even if they did make me safer from some of the "crazies".
        
        Life is about dealing with people who are, potentially, not mentally capable. When you cross the street you might, potentially, be dealing with drivers who are nuts and try to run you over. Is the answer to never go outside your door - then again they might break in and attack you.
        
        As I said, this issue is out of control. Just accept some people are selfish pricks and move on.
        
        blehgg on 17/10/2018 - 12:45
        
        @try2bhelpful: As someone stated earlier, it probably doesnt to Australia but there are laws overseas.
        
        (Apologies - should have included the reference and "e.g." - It's in Malaysia where this has become such an issue that the government had to step in. - http://www.mbi.gov.my/sites/default/files/road_transport_act…)
        
        I completely agree and I personally would just move on.
        
        This is just a logical discussion around what should be acceptable in society, and I personally strongly disagree with this practice and if it escalated to the levels as seen in many Asian countries, I would like to see the government step in and implement similar measures.
        
        My comments around the hypothetical were trying to make Flanders think of people other than himself and the people he knows about. Some of his arguments like "its just 5 minutes", while others (including myself - on like a boxing day) have been driving around for hours looking for a park.
        
        Correct: You cant know the other current situation for other people, hence standing in a spot is just ridiculous.
        
        try2bhelpful on 17/10/2018 - 13:24
        
        -1
        
        @blehgg: I would be REALLY careful trying to import laws from Malaysia into Australia; you might want to have a good look at some of their legal statutes.
        
        Why do you "strongly" disagree with this practice. There are plenty of really awful things going on in the world that should be considered before this one.
        
        We are all pissed off when we think we have a parking spot available, that then becomes a mirage. Life is too short to do more than shout a couple of obscenities and move on. We look for parking spots well away from the entrances because it means we get more exercise. We also know that going to shopping centres at peak times is a mugs game.
        
        it is always best to think of other people, and maybe that is something you need to think about as well.
        
        So how far does your analogy go:
        - is it ridiculous to scope out a table whist other people in the group buy food and bring it back?
        - is it ridiculous to have one person stand in a queue and buy tickets for their friends.
        - is it ridiculous for people to be given the heads up on bargains so they get an unfair advantage compared to the general populace.
        
        In all of the examples you could argue that the person is being selfish in giving themselves an advantage. Do you want to "outlaw" all those practices as well?
        
        BobLim on 18/10/2018 - 00:25
        
        @try2bhelpful:
        
        is it ridiculous to scope out a table whist other people in the group buy food and bring it back?
        
        If you do this without the person staying at the table then yes - this also explains the existence of the 'please wait to be seated' signs at most marginally popular eateries. Have you ever had your food arrive while you're still looking amongst several apparently empty tables for one without a single bag on one of the seats?
        
        is it ridiculous to have one person stand in a queue and buy tickets for their friends?
        
        Buy it for them (if this is allowed by the ticketing rules) - no. If it's one per person and they're 'saving the place in line' in any way then certainly yes.
        
        is it ridiculous for people to be given the heads up on bargains so they get an unfair advantage compared to the general populace?
        
        No, because this doesn't actively deprive anyone else of a scarce resource. A better equivalent would be if you'd arranged for your botnet to DDOS the site until you get home to take a look and decide whether you're interested, so that others can't take advantage in the meantime (even if they were already at the final checkout confirmation page when you decided to DDOS).
        
        By this logic, it would be impossible for someone on their own to ever park a car.
        
        Flanders on 17/10/2018 - 12:22
        
        -1
        
        @blehgg:
        
        Your car in the spot is not willingly putting yourself in danger.
        
        Lol at your 'logic' again.
        If standing in a carpark is "willingly putting yourself in danger" therefore walking through the carpark area would be "willfully putting yourself in danger" (yet even more so because you are moving rather than a stationary person which is easier to see).
        
        Why do you choose to respond to some parts of the response, but not respond to other parts?
        
        Some parts are ridiculous hypothicals regarding you being a disabled person. I find this disrespectful likely to offend disabled people everywhere. Hence no response to your hypothicals "if I am a diabled person and little timmy missed out on his super gekko etc"
        Also to debate 1 disability being worse or more in need than another would require much more information and medical knowledge and all other sorts of info and understanding which we do not have.
        
        brendanm on 19/10/2018 - 11:54
        
        -1
        
        @Flanders: Drivers know there will be people walking from their cars to the shops. They know to look for them. People are not expected to be in the actual car space, and should not be as it is a car space, not a person space. Therefore, if you put yourself where you shouldn't be, you are "wilfully" putting yourself on danger.
        
        Flanders on 19/10/2018 - 19:25
        
        @brendanm: People are often walking through car spaces on their way to shops or on way back to car. If driver is negligent and not looking where they are driving at all times, especially in an area of high pedestrian activity, well they shouldn't be behind a wheel of car period. They should be catching a bus or train or walking.
        Judge would laugh at you, then lock you up for long time, if you ran over someone then tried to blame them as 'willfully put themselves in danger' by standing in a carpark.
        
        brendanm on 20/10/2018 - 18:49
        
        @Flanders: Sure you would mate. As I said in another post, I've just driven in with someone there and they moved. Driving into a parking space at 1kmh is not "running someone over. Noone would prosecute you, the person in the CAR park would be at fault for not moving out of the way when someone is trying to park their CAR
        
        Flanders on 21/10/2018 - 00:54
        
        @brendanm: Sure you would mate . At least make your ignorance semi-coherent.
        Cars do not travel at 1km an hour. And nobody needs to prosecute, civil litigation requires no prosecution.
        Guaranteed if you drove your vehicle into someone at any speed, that you would be paying $$ for any injury incured, regardless your lame argument 'you were parking and wanted the space' .
        
        OzzyOzbourne on 17/10/2018 - 23:25
        
        @Flanders: How is putting my water bottle in a spot to holding-hands it anywhere different to parking a car in it in that case?
        
        Flanders on 17/10/2018 - 23:28
        
        @OzzyOzbourne: That doesn't make any sense. Name checks out. Lay off the druggs ozzy :) lol
imurgod on 17/10/2018 - 11:34

This is just one of those things. I've seen it happen but not that often. It isn't worth the hassle. Just park somewhere else. You're only heading for disaster in the form of a scratched car or an altercation. For what? To prove a point over a parking space?

Just park elsewhere I reckon. You won't get anywhere with entitled morons, they'll just beat you with ignorance.
kator on 17/10/2018 - 12:27

+4

I am Ok with somebody standing in the parking space.

However, once I was basically abused and accused of stealing one`s parking space. I was there first and was waiting 10-15s for a car to reverse out of the space when a suv arrived from the opposite direction and started honking. I thought its because I was blocking the way (nobody was in the area while I was waiting), so I quickly drove into the space as soon as the car reversed out. They almost crashed into me, trying to turn into the same space. Then shouted and accused me of stealing their spot?? The couple entering the parked car did not indicate that they were waiting for somebody. No other car was in the area for 10-15s.

I had a shit car back then, so I was not afraid of keying.

Also, if somebody asks me to give the parking space for them as they are in a rush etc.. I would let them have it no problem.
But if they are aggressive toward me, I won’t give a sh..t.
00000000 on 17/10/2018 - 12:41

+1

Alot of keyboard warriors on here easily raged!.
Just move along!

Why create confrontation.
- blehgg on 17/10/2018 - 12:56
  
  Fair comment.. Was getting too invested. Moving along.
- [Deactivated] on 17/10/2018 - 14:10
  
  +3
  
  hope you live around long enough to see the slide into anarchy continue until you get stabbed to death for looking at someones parking space
kl2999 on 17/10/2018 - 13:06

-1

I would sound the horn, put on high beam and accelerate towards him…
- 00000000 on 17/10/2018 - 13:27
  
  I actually doubt you would have.
  Pretty easy to type!, did it make you feel better?
  - RocketSwitch on 19/10/2018 - 12:27
    
    +1
    
    Why do you think so many people are angry on the roads? So much traffic, pressures at work etc. When something happens, first thing they want to do is RAGE at anything.
- try2bhelpful on 17/10/2018 - 13:29
  
  +1
  
  Yup, and when the person involved had taken down your number plate and had you charged with dangerous driving, attempted murder or whatever other laws come into play here your little temper tantrum will get you into very deep waters. Parking garages have ALL sorts of cameras.
uniNTAK on 17/10/2018 - 13:07

+7

Same thing happened to me years ago in Westfield Paramatta. We were parked, indicator was on for a good 5 minutes, waiting for a parked car to move out. We clearly was the first car in line to get the spot. As soon as it left, one lady walked straight in and proceed to claimed the spot for her hubby whose car just arrived on the opposite direction. We went back and forth with the lady, asking her to show some courtesy and respect for others. Did not work. My cousin in law (the driver) did not want to waste time with stupid people, decided to let it go. His wife disagreed, jumped out of the car and stood side by side with her. It was an awkward, hilarious situation for all, we were there for a good 10 minutes. I was starting to feel bad as both of our cars were partially obstructing the traffic. We would have given up and left if it wasn't for the other driver trying to run my cousin over with his FWD, trying to bully her out of the spot. Security arrived, after hearing both sides of the story and some standby witness, gave us the spot. Our car was not keyed or slashed tires, thankfully. Just go to show how ridiculous some people can be over something as minor as parking (both my cousin and the lady).
- RandomFox on 17/10/2018 - 22:15
  
  +1
  
  "Two can play that game" That's great.
- PleasureMe on 19/10/2018 - 07:05
  
  +1
  
  Good story, but that's not the same thing though. You were waiting first so the spot is clearly yours. The OP is talking about standing people who were waiting fist.
- neonlight on 20/10/2018 - 06:29
  
  It's Parramatta what do you expect?
Ghost47 on 17/10/2018 - 13:09

Lol I saw a segment on the news about this like.. last year? Or the year before.

Hasn't happened to me before but I can understand why people do it when shopping centre car parks are busy (eg. Christmas time). I duno, I understand why they do it, but it is kind of rude to others who find a space and are in their car at the time.
- try2bhelpful on 17/10/2018 - 13:30
  
  +1
  
  Yup, I think you have summed this up. Some people are selfish pricks but that is no excuse for violence.
  - Ghost47 on 17/10/2018 - 13:34
    
    Yeah, sadly some people just have a proclivity for violence.
Ughhh on 17/10/2018 - 13:36

+4

New business idea. During peak time ie. Christmas, get a bunch of your friends/family and stand in good parking spots. Demand money from the driver if they want the spot, maybe even auction it off. Then move onto the next free parking spot. Can probably earn decent cash for the whole business day. But then you'll probably lose it all on medical expenses from a well deserved beating.
- try2bhelpful on 17/10/2018 - 13:37
  
  No security will come and shut you down, pretty quickly.
  - Ughhh on 17/10/2018 - 14:38
    
    +3
    
    Thats when you give some $ to the security guard.
    - try2bhelpful on 17/10/2018 - 16:40
      
      +2
      
      ahhh, we are talking about a WHOLE new level of corruption here. Sounds like you need to organise beforehand with security.
- Ghost47 on 17/10/2018 - 13:48
  
  Basically a Martin Shkreli idea lol.
GaryQ on 17/10/2018 - 13:56

Pull in halfway, get out, lock the car and start walking to the entrance.
Wiede on 17/10/2018 - 14:27

+1

Someone try to do this to me in Chadstone.

I honked him for a good ten minutes. He eventually relented when he saw security walking towards us
skillet on 17/10/2018 - 14:41

The trick is to Reverse in with speed and I am sure the mofu will move.

If you let them have their way you better have a friend standing in a spot for you next time because the disease will spread quickly.
smpantsonfire on 17/10/2018 - 14:41

+2

Me, I'm not a push over, but I'd get over that. People who want the closest park have zero logic.

An extra 100m to the shopping centre is negligible over the amount that you will walk around in the shopping centre.
- 00000000 on 17/10/2018 - 14:45
  
  +1
  
  And the health benefits of that extra 100m!
- kiitos on 26/10/2018 - 07:24
  
  Unfortunately, for some car parks - like Macquarie Centre in Sydney - it really comes down to the car park being at capacity and people are circling waiting for others to leave before they can park. It's the worst car park I've experienced, have ended up leaving after a fruitless wait for a spot a few times now.
  
  Definitely doesn't mean I support this behaviour, it would infuriate me.
wallet72 on 17/10/2018 - 15:27

https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/queensland/woman-n…
nikey2k27 on 17/10/2018 - 15:30

-1

Run them over leave them under weal get out go do shopping come back drive back over them and leave that tech them.
- brendanm on 17/10/2018 - 15:40
  
  +1
  
  But will it teach them english?
  - smpantsonfire on 17/10/2018 - 16:04
    
    English is spelt with a capital.
TheMindsetTraveller on 17/10/2018 - 15:36

Definitely bad manners, poor form or just plain rude.

Record the guy and upload it to Youtube.
ozbargainer666 on 17/10/2018 - 15:51

+4

Tiannemen square the bastard
snivy on 17/10/2018 - 16:35

+1

Must be on rampage in different parts of the world, Malaysia made it illegal recently:
https://www.thestar.com.my/opinion/letters/2018/09/24/stop-t…

Had a personal experience like this recently, but I was waiting for a leaving car, had the indicator on, even asked the driver if she was really leaving, then this guy just skittered down to stand on the spot and was arguing that his friend was waiting "over there" for a long time. I was not gonna give up easily after all the waiting I did and after sometime of literal yelling he finally left.
- try2bhelpful on 17/10/2018 - 16:39
  
  To me the difference is if the person was standing there when you turned up, or after you turned up. I agree that if you already had the spot lined up that one is yours; if you came later and he was standing there already then that is his.
  - snivy on 17/10/2018 - 16:53
    
    Yeah, it was a long wait, she had to fold her kid's stoller and such. That guy could've approached me within that timeframe and she would've indicated that someone had already waiting too.
pegasusx on 17/10/2018 - 17:54

+1

So I came back to read the thread and looks like its triggered a lot of people.
Personally, my gut instinct was much with the majority of the posts. Violence~ / vandalism~.
Just wanted to know if this was common (good thing it isnt).

But guess that I am older, less reactive and have a family / infant daughter, it put things into perspective.
End of the day I just wanted to go shopping with them.

So here is not-MS Paint chart of my thoughts and why I choose to just look for another spot.
Apologies in advance if I failed OzBargain. ~~Seppuku~~

https://imgur.com/a/4miMdLb
- Levathian on 17/10/2018 - 18:28
  
  I'm sticking with "block it in", so long as the only person I am inconveniencing is the person who wanted the spot.
- Jackson on 17/10/2018 - 22:14
  
  Mate you did the sensible thing, which really is the only thing to do. If this thread proves anything its that most people are deluded wanna be tough guys that only get away with saying this crap because they are online and we live in a relatively civil society (a good thing, I am sure they would last 5 seconds in a different time/place)
  - [Deactivated] on 18/10/2018 - 09:43
    
    but if we let this kind of shit happen, then we let the next thing happen, then in a few years we no longer live in a civilizied society
    - Jackson on 18/10/2018 - 18:30
      
      Character is letting this go, but not letting the next thing go. Also getting out of the car, speaking to them as an adult, explaining to them in a civil way is not letting them off the hook. People are not all evil, and unless they have a mental health issue they are not going to realise that it may not be acceptable in todays society in this part of the world.
Mike88 on 17/10/2018 - 18:12

Only time i think this acceptable is if its tradesman/truck that needs to be close to their worksite for loading and unloading equipment.
- BobLim on 18/10/2018 - 00:44
  
  +2
  
  Disagree - should've used a loading zone, arrived earlier, parked on privately-controlled property, or paid the council to organise a legal works zone. If they neglect all of that and would like someone to consider their position they should calmly ask the person to give up their right to the space, and be prepared for rejection with or without reason. This 'reserving a spot' includes placing random cones on the road outside of approved roadworks (i.e. almost all of them)
  
  Why is someone packing the car for a holiday or moving house less important than their neighbour having a tap installed (by a tradie who's also being paid for every minute they spend there)?
  - Mike88 on 18/10/2018 - 07:01
    
    Loading zones are only 30minutes and arriving earlier is not always possible. Somebody packing for a holiday presumably lives there and likely has their own parking spot/drive way.
    I’m not saying that it has to be adhered to but common courtesy goes a long way.
    Why do you think we have disabled parking spots? Some people have a more difficult time getting to where they need to go.
    - chriskq on 18/10/2018 - 10:49
      
      @Mike88 Alot of inner city residential areas dont have driveways and getting a park outside ones home is very difficult. I agree with @BobLim
  - Seraphin7 on 18/10/2018 - 09:21
    
    Agree @BobLim … if someone needs to bring equipment, etc. to or from a site they need to get themselves organised in one of the ways you've outlined. The reason for someone legally parking in the street is irrelevant to the entire discussion. If someone wants to park in a particular spot they have every right to do so. Someone else's "desire" for that particular spot is totally inconsequential to the use of it.
- markathome on 19/10/2018 - 11:41
  
  +1
  
  This was one of the scenarios that I've guarded a spot for. BobLim's suggestion that I should organise a council permit to have a person do work on my inner-city apartment is insane. I'm in a better apartment now with much better arrangements for tradesmen. There is sense in regulations to force apartments to have better arrangements for occasional visitors taking less than 30 minutes (e.g. tradesmen, moving vans, end-of-lease steam cleaners). But without such regulation people just have to chill and appreciate that life isn't easy for everyone and a little leniency in accomodating others goes a long way.
Lockieasy on 17/10/2018 - 18:35

I'd just slowly drive into the spot in 1st gear while revving loudly and aggressively. One of the benefits of driving a manual.
vivasawadee on 17/10/2018 - 19:08

Fish sauce water pistol
- smartazz104 on 17/10/2018 - 21:59
  
  They might think they were getting a free lunch…
baskets2k on 17/10/2018 - 19:39

+1

I have seen an American guy did this in the CBD. He stood on a parking bay with a luggage next to him. Most likely a tourist.

A car stopped next to him wanting to park in that spot. The driver changed expletives with him for a good couple of minutes and drove off in the end.

Long story short a$$h015 come in all colours.
HangryCakeStore on 17/10/2018 - 20:23

-2

If nobodies noticed, most of the racial profiling comments bordering on their Racist views - unsurpisingly comes from the state of Queensland. Lol, its no wonder the One nation party got voted in by them. Just something for all non looking aussies to be weary of
- smartazz104 on 17/10/2018 - 22:01
  
  +1
  
  As long as some non-Aussies realise you can’t do shit like this and not expect a backlash, just because it’s ok to do back home.
  - Jackson on 17/10/2018 - 22:10
    
    Yeah because the culprit is on ozbargain and feeling bad now about all the stuff people have written about him
    - smartazz104 on 18/10/2018 - 07:19
      
      -1
      
      My post was based in reality about as much as KozieSeller's post.
Plug on 17/10/2018 - 22:04

+2

I was in Italy many years ago in standing in a place to hold it was commonplace and accepted.

To those who say you'd just slowly drive in, if you deliberately hit a pedestrian with a car, even at low speed, that's jail time plus loss of licence and a criminal record. Is it worth it?
- Seraphin7 on 18/10/2018 - 09:23
  
  +1
  
  You don't need to hit anyone. Just get your vehicle into such a position that no other vehicle can get into the spot and then just wait for the back down. "Keep talkin', buddy … I can sit here all day."
- [Deactivated] on 18/10/2018 - 09:45
  
  +1
  
  I didn't hit them, they walked into my car officer
- Stivo on 18/10/2018 - 11:43
  
  No, its not jail time plus loss of licence and a criminal record. Its at worst a fine, while the other person is in hospital with broken legs.
  - trapper on 18/10/2018 - 14:37
    
    bahahah man you are delusional.
    
    If you deliberately run someone down - breaking their legs! - there will certainly be a criminal conviction.
- tranter on 19/10/2018 - 11:35
  
  The owner of an Italian restaurant nearby often gets a member of his staff to hold a place for his Ferrari right outside his restaurant by placing a chair in the spot.
  
  I don't mind, I like looking at nice cars.
Jackson on 17/10/2018 - 22:08

+7

Yeah, I love it how everyone is so tough online. In person its completely a different story, plenty of variables eg. Bloke is bogger than you, looks like an ex con or bikie, his car is a PoS while yours is new, how many other spots there are might not be such a deal etc. etc.

Not condoning physical violence but if someone did want to take a person on who was standing in a spot the only even slighlty reasonable way would be to get out of the car, all these people saying they would run them over, thats a one way ticket to a life sentence. Why not just walk away and not let it ruin your day? Or maybe try ha e a conversation without swearing at them? The lack of humanity here is disturbing.
goraygo on 17/10/2018 - 22:38

Tell them you know where they will park and you will come back to do things to it.

Not that you will do it anyway, but that will give them something to worry about while they do their stuffs.

Who knows, one of them might ended up staying back in the car to watch it. Lol
Ghosteye on 18/10/2018 - 00:14

+2

It's condoning this kind of 'one-up' behavior that eventually brings devolves everyone's values. Eventually it's just going to be : the next guy is doing it, why can't i? IMO Shopping centre carparks are private property and rules should be set on how the parking game should be run.

Reminds me of a time back in Singapore where you would see the whole cafeteria with empty seats with tissues packets on them. This kind of behavior is selfish and unfair for everyone. Just because you have an extra person or family tagging along doesn't mean you get extra chances at scoring a parking lot while someone else has been driving around for 15 minutes just because he/she can't get out of the car.

If this keeps on happening I would probably one up the competition by staking my parking spots with out of order signs ready to go in the boot of my car.
Munki on 18/10/2018 - 09:20

+5

Turn up the volume with your windows down and put on: Ludacris - Move B*tch
- RandomFox on 19/10/2018 - 05:05
  
  or a air horn and piss everyone off while your at it
MementoMori on 18/10/2018 - 10:45

+3

All major parties planning on Melbourne hitting 8 million before we know it (up from 5).

More packed trains, trams, shopping centre car park disputes (despite the constantly upgrading Chadstone and so on - it's been a construction site forever basically)

I hope we're all having a good think about how livable we all want our cities to be and who we vote for.
- [Deactivated] on 18/10/2018 - 11:20
  
  +2
  
  Chadstone. The bane of my parking experience.
  
  They upsize Chaddy to attract 500 carloads of people and they add 100 spaces. I can only imagine the owner of Chaddy enjoying the chaos through CCTV.
upper-d on 18/10/2018 - 11:39

+1

Totally not cool, problem is though if you try to force your way in on the wrong person you could come back to your car with some brand new marks on it / flat tyres / phallus drawings etc.
- RocketSwitch on 19/10/2018 - 12:28
  
  +1
  
  Yeah, exactly, and cops will do shit all.
Stivo on 18/10/2018 - 11:41

Pretty sure its illegal to block a car spot. Call the cops if they dont move.
- RocketSwitch on 19/10/2018 - 12:28
  
  +1
  
  Yeah, like they will come lol
windrc on 18/10/2018 - 11:59

Reverse into the spot and pretend you didnt see him

Holding Parking Space by Standing in It

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