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Xiaomi Mi Ultra Short throw 5000 ANSI Lumens Laser Projector - WHITE
I've been looking for a nice Laser Projector…Looks like a nice deal..
Some great review here
Xiaomi Mi Ultra Short Throw 5000 ANSI Lumens Laser Projector US $1582 (~AU $2202.14) Delivered (+ Import Duty) @ GearBest
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Sorry, looks like the 60 are all gone now.
It's ok, still cheaper here https://www.bargaindingo.com.au/product-page/wemax-one-fmws0…
Update: price updated to include tax
This looks good, only concern is the warranty.
Gearbest as well, good luck
You'll get hit by the import tax because it's over $1000 AU.
Gearbest charge gst anyway right? Calculated at checkout usually right?
Gearbest doesn't charge GST (as of this post), but you'll most likely be hit with import tax cause it over $1000 AU.
Laws only changed on goods under the value of $1000. You'll still get hit by the custom duty on goods over $1000. How much was it again? 15%, 20%?
That high? Really? Wow. I would have thought 3-6% plus processing charge. Most of what we import clears without duty charges, but we aim to import < $1k usually.
10% GST + 5% import duty so 15.5% in total as well as processing fee if you're over the $1000 threshold.
GST was expanded for imports. The $1000 doesn't apply anymore.
Source? I still get this.
The existing processes to collect GST on imports above $1000 at the border are unchanged.
Import duty and GST are not the same thing.
The $1000 threshold for import duties was not changed. Only the GST for low value imports.
If I'm reading this right, there's actually no import duty on "MONITORS AND PROJECTORS, NOT INCORPORATING TELEVISION RECEPTION APPARATUS"
Also the 5% which I thought applied here and mentioned earlier in another comment seems to have been reduced to 3.75% this year and will become duty free next year.
https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/busi/cargo-support-trade-and-…
If you don't need ultra short throw and don't want to spend that much check out the Epson 5600 (same as the US model 2100).
It's amazing bang for buck at $930 ish (eBay and elsewhere). I know because I have it's almost identical sibling the 2150 (which has Miracast built in, the 5600/2100 doesn't).
I've been using various projectors for 25 years and know a bit about them.
And for an equally great bang for buck screen that gives you fantastic image quality even with ambient light check out darkenergyscreens.com.au
It’s not only the ultra short throw you are paying for, it’s the laser technology, 4K input compatibility etc
How useful is 4k inoput when it's not 4k native? You're paying a lot for those "features" if they're not used.
Can you find a cheaper laser short throw projector to recommend?
I'm pretty sure the term "laser" is a marketing term here. I'm extremely doubtful this has an actual laser in it, for a number of reasons:
- the specs say "Display: 0.47 inch DMD". DMD is "Digital Micromirror Device", a standard display technology.
- lasers have woeful light-production efficiency. The very best efficiency is on the order of 30%, and you only get that high for infrared lasers. Semiconductor lasers are way lower, and given the size of this device, they couldn't be using anything else. So if it really has three lasers, it would easily be pumping kilowatts of heat into the room.
- laser devices, by law in all countries, must have warning labels on them. These labels specify the power ratings. This device doesn't have those labels.
- In Australia, lasers above a miniscule power rating require a license to operate. It's the same in most other countries. I really doubt Xiaomi would make a consumer device that needed a license to operate.
This may have an LED light source, but a laser? I really doubt it.
@Russ: I don't own one yet so I only go by the reviews.The micromirror device you are talking about is not the light source.This projector uses ALPD 3.0 light source. Conventional lamps do not last 25000 hours!
Also, there other "laser" projectors on the market (e.g Epson EH-LS10000 that costs around 8K). I'm not an expert with this technology but apparently the laser beam is not focused therefore it is not harmful and no license is needed to operate these projectors.Xiaomi Global site states it's a Class 1 laser
That's even worse! A Class 1 laser "emits beam less than 0.39 milliwatts". That's dimmer than the dimmest flashlight that has ever appeared on OzBargain! It makes me think they are adding a laser to it, for no other purpose than to claim it contains a laser.
Laser class ratings here: http://www.lasersafetyfacts.com/laserclasses.html
The micromirror device you are talking about is not the light source.This projector uses ALPD 3.0 light source. Conventional lamps do not last 25000 hours!
I know it's not the light source. The point is that laser projectors use a rotating mirror system to move a beam of light over the projection screen. A DMD is an array of mirrors, one mirror per pixel. It doesn't use a laser as a light source, the light source has to illuminate the entire face of the DMD, in this case 0.47 inches - about 12mm. DMDs are used in the better-quality conventional projectors, with ordinary bulbs or LED light sources.
LED light sources have 25000 hour rated life. And you can make filament bulbs last that long too, if you design them that way.
@Russ: You are completely missing the point here Russ, but As I have stated before I cannot comment further because I don't own this projector yet. All I know so far is that ALPD 3.0 is laser, not LED, and that I haven't seen yet any filament bulb projectors with 25000 hours rated life. If "designing" them was that easy and cheap how come most projectors last 5-15 times less than that?
@GregFiona:
I can't find the spec, but old lighthouse lamps had long lives. They have now all been replaced by newer technologies.Here's a HID bulb for lighthouses, rated 20,000 hours to 50% failure rate: http://www.lighting.philips.com.au/professional-product-cata…
Lighthouses generally do run their bulbs to failure, they have an automatic system which detects failure of the bulb, and rotates a new bulb into place.Here's a different technology: Sulphur microwave bulbs. "The design life of the bulb is approximately 60,000 hours."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sulfur_lamp
http://www.plasmabright.com/lg.warehouse.aspLonger lives are possible, Philips went all-out to create extremely long-life bulbs: "For induction lamp systems with a separate ballast, the service life can be as long as 100,000 hours, which is 11.4 years continuous operation."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrodeless_lamp#Magnetic_in…
http://www.lumec.com/products/induction-lamps/advantages.htm…All of these have higher efficiency (lumens per watt) than filament lamps, so they would produce less heat if used in a projector. The HID bulb I've listed is a bit too yellow for good colour reproduction, but both the sulphur and induction bulbs have a CRI of about 80. For the induction bulb, as the light-emitting part is phosphor, those lamps could probably be tweaked to a CRI of about 90, same as a Tri-phosphor cool-white fluorescent bulb.
Actually if you don't need ultra short throw, check out the cheap 4K projectors that have been coming out this year. They are basically the same price.
Epson TW5600 currently from $844.20 delivered on eBay with PHENOM.
Not touching these 1080p Ultra Short throw PJs. Way overpriced with potentially dodgy warranties.
does it make a hole in the wall?
Just a hole in your wallet
lol
No, it bounces when it hits the wall.
What is the difference between this model and the - https://www.gearbest.com/promotion-Xiaomi-WEMAX-7000-Lumens-… ?
I can see 5000 vs 7000 lumens but the rest of the specs seem identical.
Linked one is revised version of this. If you can wait, you can get the wemax one for about the same price.
It's mostly the same, a bit brighter, and comes with more English compatible apps.
At this price point, I wouldn't really bother with this
They both have the same noise output (32dB) which seems to be quite loud (from a number of other forums posts I have read). I think I'll wait another generation in the hope that they refine things further.
I'm expecting next release to be 4k, which might be important enough by then. I might wait with you… depends how empty the wall looks in my next apartment,
Good price,but I'm waiting for a coupon code for the Wemax 1 :)