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Samsung 500GB 960 EVO NVMe SSD $239.10 Delivered @ Computer Alliance eBay

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Samsung 500GB 960 EVO NVMe SSD $239.10 Delivered @ Computer Alliance eBay
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theHMASfriendship on 04/05/2018 - 10:09 ebay.com.au (995 clicks)
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From the "No Computer Alliance, no deal" and "PC byte are price jacking again" darkness that is the latest Ebay voucher deal comment section, a piercing light emerges… and a Computer Alliance ebay deal appears to save us all.

970 EVO and PRO is soon to be on the shelves so Computer Alliance have dropped their 960 prices, with the 500gb EVO at $249 representing great value, and currently the lowest of all the usual computer store suspects. Happily, their ebay store has it listed for the same price too, bringing it to $224.10, or $239.10 shipped.

Sure, shipping is $15, but even so it's $20 less than the next cheapest deal from a quick search (here). Also note if you buy multiple items in the same transaction from them, the shipping is still $15 for everything.

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  • Homr on 04/05/2018 - 10:11
    +13

    +1 just for your opening sentence

  • freewhere on 04/05/2018 - 10:12
    +1

    What's up with these storage wars?

    • idontalwaysnotlie on 04/05/2018 - 10:20
      +1

      NAND prices have been artificially inflated the last year or so as factories retooled to build the new 3d chips. As production begins at full speed we should see prices drop, and get more competitive with old spinny drives. Hopefully RAM prices will do the same thing but they like the current sky high prices.

      • garage sale on 04/05/2018 - 10:36

        PC users are using 3D NAND, not sure what they use in mobile phones (MLC or TLC/3D ?). The phone market must be sucking up memory like crazy … I've upgraded 2 phones but still on my 750GB SSD and 16GB PC.

        Phones have gone from 2/16 storage to 6/64 and 6/128 in just 2 years.

        Also you can't recover RAM or flash from phones when you get rid of them, you can recover the SSD and RAM from a PC.

        the amount of memory going to land fill from old phones must be huge.

    • theHMASfriendship on 04/05/2018 - 10:22

      Also 970 series is incoming

    • Tythefly86 on 04/05/2018 - 11:50
      +1

      Rob359: I assume it's all rigged. Check my links or google search "samsung, micron lawsuit memory". These awful companies have done this in the past and are getting sued for doing it again recently. I realize this is in regards to Random Access Memory but I would not be surprised if there is a similar situation going on with storage. From my understanding it is cheaper to make an ssd than a hdd (2nd link).
      https://www.pcgamer.com/lawsuit-alleges-samsung-micron-and-h…
      and https://www.networkcomputing.com/data-centers/6-ways-ssds-ar…

  • usb4 on 04/05/2018 - 10:34

    I read somewhere to use Nvme as boot device need a 8th gen processors onward. It can be true or false. I think in order to get the full performance need 8th gen processors.

    • theHMASfriendship on 04/05/2018 - 10:38
      +5

      Wow, a comment from Samsung himself!

      Dependent on the chipset. It was possible from Z97 from what I have read (not sure on the AMD side)… Any motherboards with a dedicated nvme slot will almost certainly be compatible.

      • pilchard on 04/05/2018 - 11:19
        +2

        Compatible yes, but I've found some older boards with nvme slots only support PCIe Gen2 x2. For full speed you need PCIe 3.0 x4.

        • aong152 on 04/05/2018 - 12:32
          -1

          I'm on a z97i and I'm running an nvme drive. Pcie 2.0 x2 so I'm bottlenecked, only getting 700-800MB/s sequential (drive is rated for 1400)

    • garage sale on 04/05/2018 - 10:43
      +2

      If you have a look at Intel "innovations" between gen 6,7 and 8 it hasn't been that you get a noticeably faster processor (only tiny increments), it has been reduced power, parallelism, security AND faster access to storage with the new MB chipsets.

      Not sure the average user will notice difference between 950vs960.

      the WOW factor was moving from spindle hard drive to SSD.

      Moving from SATA to NVMe is more "cool" than "WOW" if you already have been used to SSD on sata.

      • Chewiebacca on 04/05/2018 - 10:50

        8th Gen has been a pretty big development in terms of bang for buck, i3's on-par if not better than the 7th gen i5's, I know of many users who had big improvements due to the increased core count of the i5 and i7's.

        I definitely agree regarding SSD's, the difference between SATA and PCI based SSD's is hardly noticeable in pretty much every general use case.

      • Diji1 on 04/05/2018 - 11:06
        -4

        NVMe vs SATA 3:

        OS loads almost 100% faster.

        Games load 100% - 400% faster.

        If you have 2 NVMe drives copying large things like game folders to avoid redownloading is much easier. Not that I do this when I have Telstra unmetered service but if I was on slow and/or metered it's a real boon to be able to do this.

        • Zenskas on 04/05/2018 - 11:23
          +1

          Where'd you get these stats from?

          My NVMe 960 PRO is nowhere near 100%+ faster at loading the OS and games compared to my SATA3 850 EVO. Load time decreases are a few seconds at best, I'd put an NVMe drive well under 50% faster at loading an OS and games compared to a good SATA3 SSD on the exact same hardware…

          Read/write performance is certainly better, especially from NVMe drive to NVMe drive. As are various other performance metrics. But massive decreases to load times are not one of them. Not unless you are comparing NVMe drives to SATA3 hard drives, which are obviously far slower than SATA3 SSDs.

        • Diji1 on 04/05/2018 - 11:31

          @Zenskas: >are a few seconds at best

          I timed them but feel free to watch side by side loading on Youtube.

        • Zenskas on 04/05/2018 - 11:40
          +2

          @Diji1:
          Here's an accurate timing done by a reputable site: https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2016/…

          The difference between a reputable site and Youtube/hearsay is that they do this for a living, and will use the exact same testing hardware and testing conditions so nothing else could be at play. As you can see the 960 PRO cold boots Windows a full 1 second faster than a measly 850 PRO SATA3 drive. The same can be said for my hardware at home, I noticed practically no difference to load times going from 850 EVO to 960 PRO. Maybe I need to upload a Youtube comparison for the Youtube scholars to learn from…

          You'll probably also find that some people comparing their new NVMe drive to their old SATA3 SSD are comparing a fresh install of Windows on the NVMe drive to an old install that is loaded with all sorts of junk on their existing SATA3 SSD.

          Heck for the fun of it I watched a Youtube comparison: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecCA0gx_eZk
          960 PRO vs Crucial MX300, a budget drive in comparison to the 960…
          "This test very clearly showed that in typical gaming scenarios a very fast SSD shows next to no advantage over a low- to mid-range SATA SSD when it comes to game load and level load times."

          Generally speaking a good SATA3 SSD already loads the OS and programs/games very quickly anyway.

    • Zenskas on 04/05/2018 - 11:16
      +4

      You don't need a certain processor to boot from NVMe drives. You just need a board with NVMe boot support and a PCI-e M.2 slot (or M.2 to PCI-e adapter card).

      Most of the major Gigabyte, ASUS, ASRock and MSI boards running Intel Z97 chipsets or newer will support booting from NVMe drives, so long as you are running the latest BIOS (Z97 boards generally needed a BIOS update to do it).

      Bear in mind that the older the chipset the fewer PCI-e lanes will be available to M.2 drives - for my 960 PRO installed on a Z97 board I got around this by using a M.2 to PCI-e adapter that slots into a fully fledged PCI-e x4 Gen 3 slot so the full bandwidth can be used by the drive. The onboard M.2 slot on my Z97 board only goes up to PCI-e x2 Gen 2 which is far less bandwidth than x4 Gen 3. It would have worked it would have just bottlenecked the max read/write speeds of the drive.

  • Neilzy on 04/05/2018 - 10:46

    Prices have just dropped this week because the new 970 and 860 series have been released.

    If only it were this price last week when i bought my 2700x and crosshair 7 hero >_>. nonetheless i just bought one. thanks OP

  • Diji1 on 04/05/2018 - 11:08
    -7

    WD Black is significantly faster than this and priced to beat it.

  • CrushJelly on 04/05/2018 - 11:09

    Excuse my ignorance, but can these be used with an Xbox One?

    • Daff on 04/05/2018 - 11:27
      +1

      No, entirely different interface.

    • [Deactivated] on 04/05/2018 - 11:29
      +1

      Nope, unless you can find an M.2 NvMe to USB enclosure (which i don't think exist yet). Even then you won't be able to get the max speeds because Xbox One doesn't support higher than USB 3.0 (or 3.1 Gen1) which is limited to ~550MBps, while these drives are capable of reading at 2GBps or even more.

      Better off buying something like an 850 Evo (should be cheaper now because 860 Evo is out), throwing that into a SATA to USB 3.0 enclosure and using that. Will be cheaper and not much slower.

    • theHMASfriendship on 04/05/2018 - 11:43
      +1

      As above, look for 2.5 inch form factor 850/860 Evo, or the MX500 is a good option too.

    • CrushJelly on 04/05/2018 - 13:51

      Thanks for the replies!

  • The Wololo Wombat on 04/05/2018 - 11:21

    Can this be used in a small form Dell Desktop?

  • lasertip on 04/05/2018 - 12:23

    Wondering whether I should get 2 of these and stick them in my nvme raid card or get 1x 970evo 1TB

    • ekwipt on 04/05/2018 - 12:34

      I’m planning on getting the 1TB 970 EVO personally, i have a PCIe card that can take 4 of them in RAID. For Video editing these things are amazing

  • scrimshaw on 04/05/2018 - 13:12

    Nice. too bad I already bought a WD Black PCIE SSD from amazon for $209 AUD

    Really need some good RAM deals. Stuck with just 8GB of DDR4 2400mhz RAM in my main system and it's actually holding me back from being able to open loads of tabs in FF and Chrome while keeping Slack open.

    • O O on 04/05/2018 - 13:48

      Isn't WD Black you bought a better deal? 😊

      • pinkybrain on 04/05/2018 - 14:25

        what is the speed like compare to this?

        Price is cheaper so that is good

        • tmr3 on 04/05/2018 - 16:28
          +1

          Looks like the older 512GB WD Black, not the newer 500GB WD Black. The old model is pretty "meh" as far as NVMe drives go, and doesn't compare very well to the 960 EVO or 960 PRO. The newer drive is much better and compares very well, but market prices are all over the shop.

        • scrimshaw on 04/05/2018 - 17:29

          correct, the random 4k write of old WD black is far below the Samsung Evo 960's. You're looking at 222 megs versus 321mbs

          https://www.anandtech.com/show/11174/the-western-digital-bla…

          Not… that I really need the speed, because most of work doesn't involve intensive HDD writes. Maybe one day when I get into content creation I'll actually see the performance difference between my WD Black and my SATA-based Crucial drives.

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