Friends need to scatter some ashes in the ocean. They've been told to hire a boat or water taxi to do it. Surely there's a more cost effective way. What's been your experience, and specifically Sydney?
The OZB Way to Scattering Ashes
ihbh on 21/04/2018 - 15:49
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lmao its the first non-useless comment I've read from you
I wouldn't say tuzii is a professional troll, but she/he is certainly a talented amateur.
Thanks for your kind words
If you throw 100 things at a wall one will eventually stick.
My first thoughts, but unfortunately not as straight forward as that. https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/newslocal/manly-daily/dece…
With any wind but an Easterly, you should be able to find a Sydney headland to scatter them from.
Shelley Beach and North Head are nice.
How about a water taxi?
Steal a boat or a water taxi
Grand Theft Boato?
Grand Theft Porto
Don't know about Sydney but we just gathered at a quiet beach in Victoria and dropped my mother's ashes into the ocean. I'm sure there are places along the NSW coast that would be suitable. Just try to avoid getting covered in ash.
Was that beach the same beach Harold Holt went missing at?
Apparently Harold Holt's disapperance was a Chinese submarine or a dingo with an aqualung.
While as silly comment, Holt went missing at quite an inaccessible beach in Vic.
Cheviot Beach, Portsea, near Port Nepean. Not that far from Port Phillip heads it is an ocean surf beach with rip tides. Although he was known as a strong swimmer it really is too dangerous for people to swim there. If rips don't pull you under and out great whites pose a risk too.
A friend's ashes were emptied off a pier on Phillip Island. Was told this is a popular area for these and you can buy plaques to place on the pier. I have not seen these though … have not been looking.
Yeah, scatter the ashes at a local reserve so the kids can play with them.
The ocean's are vast and the ashes are going to cause one pumpteenth of nothing in adding to pollution of them - especially compared to the large quantities of plastic out there. The OP should have a ceremony that means something to them and then release their loved one into the sea at a secluded cove. Stay away from a crowded beach to avoid local swimmers wearing their loved one. We like to think bits of my mother are visiting places around the world she would've loved to have gone to.
Just scatter it at a local reserve or national park.
From https://www.gardeningknowhow.com/garden-how-to/info/crematio…
"Cremation ashes may be harmful when placed in the soil or around trees or plants. While cremains are composed of nutrients that plants require, primarily calcium, potassium and phosphorus, human ashes also contain an extremely high amount of salt, which is toxic for most plants and can be leached into the soil."
So you're suggesting that salt can be harmful to the plants but you didn't think what it would do to the ocean?
Huh?
didn't think what it would do to the ocean?
won't somebody think of those freshwater ocean fish……
@tshow: You do realize that the ocean is already full of salt, right? I'm pretty they even call it "salt water" for that reason.
Don't quote me though, maybe they're being ironic.
The salt is from rocks, dissolved by rainwater over millennia, being washed into the oceans and fish can't cry.
@tshow: Possibly, I don't know.
So do you think they're offended when someone puts a small weetbix box pack sized tin of ash into the estimated 1,310,302 thousand cubic kilometers volume of their ocean habitat?
@kale chips suck:
Of course they would. It's like having a random dude walking right into your living room and lets one rip.@tshow: You clearly have no concept of the scale of dilution in play here - or you're just choosing to ignore it.
It's more like a bacteria splitting several hundreds of kilometers away.
Are you a vegan?
@kale chips suck:
Vegans kill plants.Fruitarianism is the only way to live with Gaia and set ourselves up on the path of reconciliation with Mother earth.
@tshow: Ah, got it. You're a disciple of Durian rider, before he went completely insane.
Say hi to Freelee Mk2, and Doug G.
Do you even 30BAD bro?
@kale chips suck:
This durian riding fellow seems like a gentleman of great repute and possesses nutritional knowledge second to none.@JediJan:
Filthy casuals.I only eat fruits that have dropped and rejected by all other animals. I ensure I do not indirectly deprive another sentient being of nutrition.
Please stop exhaling, you're making our air dirty.
man i want to respond but i will get banned
😂
why do you need to go in a boat, just go to a beach.
https://www.ptv.vic.gov.au/getting-around/ferries/western-po…
and get a child under 4 years old to do it
Manly Ferry sounds plausible, but I don't know if you're allowed to scatter ashes from a ferry though. Best to ask beforehand before you get fined or end up on the news..
edit: looks like OP has found the news article
I don't want to sound rude here but why are you suggesting your friend uses cost effective ways to scatter ashes. Have they asked you to do this? It's one of those things that you just pay for. Sure look around for a good deal on hiring a boat for a morning but scattering off the side of a ferry is pretty silly.
It's an emotional time for your friend and their family. A private hired boat is the best way to do it. Most ones with small engines you don't need a boat license.
They have alone time, can say a few words etc etc
If they don't want to hire a boat, finding a quiet beach would be best.
Pneumatic potato cannon.
Before people go spouting off that it is disrespectful, I honestly wouldn't mind going that way.
I'll keep that in mind.
Fire it into an army base for an extra memorable ceremony.
Combustion please. I’d rather go out with a bang than a muffled pop.
The ashes won't get very far that way.
You have to encapsulate the cremains, probably something fibrous like a reconstituted coconut husk shell.
With a pneumatic cannon, you can launch that cremains filled faux coconut a long way.
With combustion, you'd be eating human dust.
I thought the OzBargain way would be to skip the embalming and use the remains as fertiliser.
That's actually quite poignant, the ashes giving life beyond death. Is there anything prohibiting burying ashes in a park or backyard?
I think ashes you can do what you like with.
Years ago there was a bit of a push to let people be buried where ever they liked (within reason) and without the usual funerary trappings. Not quite "toss me in potato sack and dig a hole under the backyard gum tree" but that sort of thing.
I've no problem becoming compost.
Interesting video from the US about a cemetery in the middle of nowhere: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neKtmX3IY_Y. The 'recent addition' is a bit surprising. Comments are readable for once.
Prob wouldn’t do it in a backyard. Some developer will come along sooner or later and rip up the tree and build a parking lot / apartments after they pay off the corrupt local council.
walk to end of a jetty?
Drone and YouTube it…
If you flush them down the dunny they'll end up in the ocean. That's about as ozb as I could imagine - maybe a public dunny to save your own water, or even at work so you're getting paid to do it.
A la Captain Fantastic.
A la Captain Fantastic
Excellent film!
I thought the water goes to a sanitation plant which recycles that and turns it back into drinkable water……instead of the ocean…?
Not in Sydney, there's a bunch of plants that pump it into the ocean. If you're lucky it'll have been treated first and the outflow will be a fair way offshore.
A while back a common statement would be that the surfing would be great if it wasn't for all the brown bits. It's improved. Mostly.
https://www.google.com.au/search?q=malabar+water+treatment+p…, note the number of "err oops!" links there.
There are waste water treatment plants around Sydney but a lot of the eastern beaches just goes into the ocean. I would hapee there is some mechanical treatment (eg grates)
shut up Donny
What the f was that s about Vietnam? What the f does anything have to do with Vietnam??
Rules
I did it from water taxi. You Dont want to do it from a ferry, trust me. The ashes can be blown by the wind to passenger faces.
The point at Manly from the rocks. Your friend's ashes will be with my Mum's. Friends can watch from the promenade behind
A few years back my husband was a member of the Volunteer Coast Guard in Botany Bay. They would take people out to scatter ashes for a donation.
The Volunteer Coast Guard no longer exists and is replaced by Marine Rescue. They may be able to help.Just ensure you have the right tidal glow going out so that the ashes go out to sea, not back into the beach.
We did it from a point at the river mouth. An oceanographer calculated the exact day and time for us so there was plenty of water going out to sea.
Wile-e-coyote would wait for an OZB deal for an ACME giant slingshot.
Drone? But you would need to check flight restrictions for where you want to do it lol and uh bystanders.. haha
Swim.
Let JV snort the ashes
Is JV Keith Richards?
i like to ozbargain, but trimming costs on a funeral / ashes scattering etc is just disrespectful to the person who died.
If you do it at the shore, it all just comes back at you. That was my experience when we dumped my father out of his plastic bag.
you should have cremated the body first.
I instantly thought of this as well.
Hiring a tinnie is around $60 an hour
If the life of the deceased isn't even worth that then why bother with the sendoff in the first place?
why not send them up as a firework instead? :-)
http://ashestoashes.com.au/i wouldn't mind a send off like that!
I've been looking for an answer and you just provided it! Thank you.
You can rent kayaks at Manly on the ferry side from memory. Or you could hike through Royal National Park - lots of lovely secluded points and beaches down that way.
I want to be made into a Life Gem my ashes, although not v Ozbargain!
I can imagine a gust of wind comes and blows the ash back onto the boat on everyone's face. That will be a nightmare.
there's some things in life where finding a bargain makes sense from a cost vs quality perspective, this is not one of them. show some respect to your friend's deceased loved ones instead of trying to cut costs on such an important event. do it properly, or don't do it all.
Out of curiosity, did the decease expressly ask to have their ashes scattered in the sea?
My mother was not a sea-person and even developed a shellfish allergy in adhulhood. It didn't seem right that her final resting place would be at the bottom of the sea. I took her to my favorite place on earth instead and scattered her ashes over a dormant volcano. This one to be exact. She was a wood nymph with moss green eyes and this place seemed more fitting.
I also quite like the word "dormant", which roughly translates to "asleep" in French. My mother was too vibrant a creature to ever die; she's only sleeping.
Just off a ferry going to manly.