How many internal job rejections would you accept before looking elsewhere?
Is two when I should start looking elsewhere?
How Many Internal Job Rejections?
John678 on 27/03/2018 - 16:22
Last edited 27/03/2018 - 18:07 by 2 other users
Last edited 27/03/2018 - 18:07 by 2 other users
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1 is too many - get yourself a box and start packing up your desk
what's "internal job rejection" is that for another role within the same company?
Really depends on if you met the requirements of those jobs?
I heard the reason why companies tend to prefer going external is because hiring internally doesn't solve their problem. They not only need to screen and interview for the new role which you end up taking, but also the for the role you are leaving behind
Internals aren't motivated, and tend to carry on "we did it this way"… into their new job… see it all too often for jobs that would be best for internals due to knowledge.
I was an external once myself and found myself within a year knowing more than most of the 5-10 year people who were internal
tree fiddy
Look internally and elsewhere at the same time.
Maybe you like your current firm, but like Blonky above said, sometimes it is the politics that your current department doesn't want to look for another person to fill your void lol.
It depends on how qualified you were for the jobs you applied for. Some people send off to anything that is remotely interesting. If there is an area where you are particularly interested in then have a chat with the manager in charge, informally, about what they do and express your interest. It gives you an in when they are recruiting in that area.
Assuming you were qualified for the job you applied for, one rejection is enough. By doing so your workplace has sent a clear message that you will not be able advance your career with them at this time.
This isn't uncommon, the usual promotion is diagonal (out of organisation and up) rather than straight internal.
What happens if there is multiple qualified people but only one role? Lose half the team because there is only one job?
The outcome is the same, so I'd still look elsewhere.
An alternate way to look at it is "if you're ready to be promoted, don't limit yourself to one opportunity to be promoted".
Ready is all relative, some people have very poor self reflection and always think they're ready while others have poor vision and don't know when someone is ready :)
Was it Richard Branson who quoted about taking an job you're not ready for and learning along the way?
@spook290: It's probably always the way. Do the job until you can do it. Once you can do the job, move on.
Really the alternative is to do nothing and hope for the best. This strategy is too passive to achieve a result.
Try getting a secondment to a different team
Start looking elsewhere and if you get a suitable offer, assuming you'd rather stay in your current company, have a meeting with your boss and explain that you'd like to stay with them but you need a role with more responsibility. If you aren't getting the internal roles you apply for because they don't want to lose you, they may reconsider. If it is because they actually don't want you for the role, you can give your notice and accept the other job offer.
Maybe the issue is that you perform better in your current role than whoever would replace you?
I'm in this boat at the moment. Been knocked back from 2 positions that were closer to home, and more money.
Water cooler talk is that my boss has said i'm too difficult to replace.
I'm looking for another job as we speak externally anyway.
Depends on the feedback you were given for the rejections. Sometimes there are politics at play or there were other genuinely better candidates or factors like your age/perceived lack of experience may have worked against you.
I would look externallly if you are unhappy in your current role but otherwise if the internal bets were more opportunistic plays, wait your time out and something will eventually happen.
Asking for feedback is critical. If you haven't, you do need to follow up on this or you may be totally unaware of something that is an easy fix, or a misunderstanding.
What sort of work/role are you in and what sort of role did you apply for?
What sort of work/role are you in
Bus driver
and what sort of role did you apply for?
Pilot
Make sure you have a job to go to prior to resigning..
I was once out of work for 12mths, over 200 applications, 20 odd interviews, etc…not a happy time..Pornhub was your friend I bet. It is mine now.
Funnily enough no. But what you do in your own time !
I do it on any ones time haha lol ;) ;)
They hired internally with someone with graphic design skills which they said was the only thing I lacked (This skill set wasn’t on job application)
What role was the job application for?
Do you know the person that they eventually went with? If you do, do you feel they were a better fit?
Learning and Development Coordinator.
They weren’t degree qualified.
I don’t know them well. Sure they will go fine.Doesn’t really mean I’m feeling any better.
I made it clear to the hiring manager I’ll be spending Easter job hunting. Not that he would care. I just wanted to be honest.
Unfortunately not everyone can get the job, they had to make the decision, as you said you don't know them that well, they may have been the best candidate at that time.
A better plan would've been to seek feedback about the differences, what you can do to be suitable for next time.
It doesn't show a great sense of resilience that you are looking elsewhere after not getting the first role you applied for.
I know it's disappointing as it sounds like you have invested a lot in it but it happens to everyone, take it as a learning experience, get that feedback and try your best to address it, I can't count the times a second person has been hired down the track from the same process.
ive been in your shoes looking for L&D roles.
lots of ex-teachers giving their all to get a job that might have the same skills base, but not the same skills pathway. The person who got recruited had graphics design skills, and that wasnt on the application, showing that role is not only coordinator (sounds like a teacher), but the content creator, meaning you'll be creating that pathway for learning and skill development (rather than have the skill set of a lesson planner and content user to fill a role with).
Try changing your focus and goal of a learning and development coordinator before applying.
After 2 i started applying everywhere, not just internally. I was a good worker and on the lowest band level, so they weren't going to give me a role with more money and less physical responsibility.Get a teaching job overseas if you're still under 35 and abandon the rat race you're in
It's wasn't a case of diversity hiring? Eg much same skills so went with the person that fills hiring quota. That's all the rage at moment
I think it depends on how it is handled, I receive a lot of internal applications.
Some people are simply wanting to raise their profile and get some time with a manager, which is fine, shows your wanting to move in that direction.
Even if you're not right for the job, it should be framed as a development conversation, things you can do to get there.
If it is just a reject and you have got nothing of value out of the process, it might be time to look around.
You need to try and understand why. is it your application, is it your experience, or is it just you
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