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A big price drop on these batteries at the moment, handy for anyone who has the ecosystem, the 2.0Ah are also down to $29 but for $10 you can double the capacity. Likely matching Aldi.
Ozito Power X Change 18V 4.0ah Li-Ion Battery $39.89 (Was $75) @ Bunnings Warehouse
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That looks like the same fitting as my Dewalt .. I wonder …
Edit Pictures on the internet suggest I don't remember what my dewalt battery actually looks like.
We need a wiki article that cross references battery compatibility. I recently picked up the Rockwell brush less hammer drill from SCA, came with 2 batteries for 48 bucks, and someone noted it matched Work branded drill they have. Would be sold on Worx if may existing 2 batteries worked with their other stuff and the price of skins was right
I second the idea of having a wiki cross references battery compatibility. I wish these batteries were compatible with the BOSCH blue range; or maybe there were a mod to make it fit I would be glad to know.
Next step would be something like this: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1248463
Where you can combine two parts into one print: the battery you have and the device you have.
@RickMeasham: currently working on the tool side of aldi batteries ti do this…. iirc aldi ones hace good samsung cells in them
@Max2010: Done! just cutting up some copper pipe for terminals tomorrow
Doing it all as a single print though may not be possible as you are likely going to need access inside to be able to wire it up
message me if you want the model
@dcarbonetti: Well done. I tried to 'start a conversation' from your profile but I am not sure if that works. But yes, if it's for the BOSCH Blue tools I would like to have details/photos on that please.
This deserves a deal of its own!
http://www.supercheapauto.com.au/Product/Rockwell-ShopSeries…
Brushless, 2 batteries (with led capacity indicator) , charger, 2-speed gear box, 30Nm torque (low for a brushless drill), $48.
The Rockwell website says their products are exclusive to Mitre 10 …
This is the one, been posted a couple of times but not enough votes to make the front page. I haven't used it yet but it's quite small which is great for a hammer drill, and the chuck is metal not plastic. Might get stuck in this weekend, if so I will let you know, but regardless a whole kit for the price of some single batteries is a steal
Oh yeaaahhhhh! I have four from last time… hmmm, do I need more?!
Liking the Ozito Power-X-Change range a LOT but have found a few limitations however nothing too bad. The Brushless Hammer Drill simply cuts out when it gets overwhelmed under stressful tasks. It has only happened a couple of times and it was annoying but not a big problem as you simply pump the trigger and it'll get right back into it again. I was asking a lot from it though… 30mm+ spade bits through 100mm 115 year old hardwood :) The Brushless Impact Driver seems limitless though (as it should) so that's a nice backup. The Random Orbital Sander worked really well but after a non-stop 5-6 hour session sanding down an entire house wall swapping out my four 4Ah batteries as I went the bearings are starting to make some noise. Still works perfectly well and sure I probably put it through its paces but if I hear them get any worse I'll definitely be returning it for an over-the-counter replacement. I also put the Circular Saw through many tough tasks including ripping down full 5.4m lengths of 21mm T&G Pine. It did the job perfectly well but did cut-out once or twice on one of the boards but again I'm probably pushing the limits there a bit too. All in all it's a great affordable one-battery alternative to Ryobi and other brands but it has one massively handy bonus… you can get no-questions asked, instant over-the-counter replacements if anything does go wrong and for me that's worth its weight in gold :)
That's for that review. I've been wavering a bit, because like you I will need a drill for heavier tasks.
I was reading that you should try out cheaper options, most of the time they will do what you want, unless you are a tradesmen working 40 hours a week.
I agree, the Power-X tools seem to be excellent. I only do general DIY tasks but have found the drill and angle grinder to be more than up to the task. Will be looking our for any price drops on the circular saw and impact driver. Might have to pick up one of these batteries too, I have only been using the 2.0Ah ones.
too daunting.
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Agree with your review - brushless hammer drill serviceable, but underwhelming at times; brushless impact driver is life-changing, but that's probably because I've been destroying heads of screws with a drill for so long. 100mm batten screws into old hardwood posts no trouble.
Circular saw I wouldn't buy again, cuts out regularly for tasks I expect it wouldn't.
Orbital sander has given me no trouble.
Angle grinder works fine but limited usage.
Rotary drill was a really pleasant surprise, had low expectations. Have to take my time drilling for longish dynabolts, but does the job well for my purposes.
Anyone got experience with the garden tools (line trimmer, mower? Mower looks anaemic but I'm sick of carrying my petrol mower up stairs to mow a small section of lawn, want to keep a small cheap cordless mower up there just for that task).
I've found the Angle Grinder to be far more useful than expected… I've reached for it for many small annoying jobs including cutting hundreds of old nails off framework as they can't be removed the usual way, cutting old screws in half to remove fence panels, cutting wedges out of one side of 5mm thick steel angle fence posts to straighten them up. It has been a great addition to the kit!
Good to hear about the Rotary Drill. Might look into that one day…
No experience with the Garden Stuff though sorry. You're right though, I think they need to beef that range up a bit to include more capable mowers as per the competition (dual battery perhaps?) plus a proper line trimmer instead of one that uses those plastic strips. Once they do that I'll be first in line to buy :) Only have a tiny yard though so the current offerings would probably be OK anyway.
I've got the hedge trimmer, line trimmer and blower. All work great, especially the hedge trimmer
I recently got the trimmer and blower deal for $79 with a 3.0 ah battery and find them great. I am small and needed something lightweight for yard work while my husband was out with a leg injury and these have been perfect. I also bought the little shear/hedge trimmer for a bit of trimming and its good too for a quick touch up rather than getting out the electric. On the first use of the grass trimmer I used 2 blades but that is probably my inexperience and both blades went on a thick area that had gotten out of control. I did about 30 minutes trimming then swapped the battery over to the hedge shears and by the time I had run out of puff after an hour the battery still showed 2 lights. Very impressed and will go back today for the 4.0 ah battery so I have a spare.
I've got pretty much the full set when I moved into new house, was annoyed at all my tools using different batteries.
I have thick kikuyu grass which the mower cuts out on, but I think thats the thickness and height of the grass more than anything. When its just taking the tops off, works fine. I do about 150sqm on 2x 2ah batteries (they work together). Line trimmer and blower are good and handy.
I built my deck (8m x 4m jarrah) using all the ozito tools, brushless hammer for drilling, impact for screws and worked like a trouper. I agree with the circular saw being annoying tho, it was cutting out when lopping the ends off. Not sure if i was doing something wrong or the guide getting stuck.
Havent used the grinder yet, but would assume it will be handy. I'll be buying this 4ah battery to chuck in the lawn mower so i've got 2x 4ah for extra time.
Can't speak for their cordless gear, but I have a Ozito 240V corded angle grinder, hammer drill, jigsaw, dremel thing and probably a few more I can't think of. Put all the tools through there paces and the keep up with no issues. I'd buy Ozito anyday, and I would buy the cordless tools if I thought I needed them. (only work in the workshop, plenty of power points)
Although I have lost my reciepts. I assume this voids the 3yr warranty?
Yep, I too had/have a few stupidly cheap Ozito 240V Power Tools and they worked really well and have actually lasted longer than some of the branded Power Tools that cost me ten times as much! Yes, you need to keep your receipts to have any chance of returning/exchanging. I've now got into a habit of taking a photo of my Bunnings receipts as soon as I get into the car with the goods otherwise I know it'll be lost as soon as I get home.
You don't need a receipt if you can prove when the purchase took place, like through a credit card statement. I returned an item to Bunnings more than 6 months after I bought it and I had no receipt. The lady at the counter asked me approximately when I bought it and for the last digits of the credit card, and then she trawled through the system looking for the purchase. Took a good 10 minutes, but she found it, reprinted the receipt, and then refunded me. If you paid in cash you might be out of luck though.
https://www.accc.gov.au/consumers/prices-surcharges-receipts…
I just bought one of the drill/drivers on the weekend to hang some curtains!
I doubt that the 2 batteries at 2.0Ah that came with it will ever not be enough, but I'll probably buy one of these anyway.
"but I'll
probablybuy one of these anyway."that's the ozbargain spirit!
Probably one, but likely more!
Any adaptors to make them fit other brands?
I can't find it quickly, but AvE on YouTube once hacked the interface part of a dead battery to the cells of a good battery.
If you're willing to kill your warranty, set your house of fire, and have Santa never come again, the cells in this are probably the same size as the cells in your current battery.
I know there is a seller on ebay that makes other brand batteries fit Ryobi One+ skins but not sure about Ozito
Out of curiosity what would you pay for one?
they are asking $70. At that price, i'm not an owner. Under 50, i'd do it
What is the difference between 2ah and 4ah (obviously a novice, sorry).
I have a few Ozito tools but can't recall which battery it is. Can they be interchanged?That's their capacity. A 4ah battery should last twice as long as a 2ah
Therefore, will be heavier which may not be suitable when using it on small jobs like assembling small items or where you need to hold a drill/driver upside down or sideways etc.
Should also be capable of outputting more current.
The difference between all 2Ah and 4Ah batteries is that the 2Ah are 5 cells wired in Series, 4Ah are 5 paired cells (ie 10 cells total).
Being paired, the individual cells only have to pass half as much current to generate the same current flow.I wonder if they actually do or not, I imagine the BMS would have a preset rate that it trips at. So they would have to have different BMS settings for the batteries for that to be the case.
@tryagain:
They do for the Brand Name Drills.
If the BMS is at at Cell level (which it should be anyway) then it should apply as long as the motor controller wants the extra current. That might actually be the defining limit point.@scubacoles:
Bosch Blue don't have any BMS at all. Not even a fuse. Just very simple discrete parts that translate the voltage into LED bar that shows the battery status.@skillet:
Not sure how a BMS relates to the fuel gauge? I don't think you know what a BMS is.I'd be shocked if Ozito didn't have battery management on each Cell and I don't believe for a second that any Brand name anything would not have Battery Management for Lithium Cells.
@scubacoles:
Perhaps you might want to google this shocking new news?In this video you will find your answer. I am a Bosch fan and I have an array of 10.8V and 18V Bosch tools.
There is no smart BMS at all. It all happens in the tool, measures the battery pack voltage as a whole and cut off when it's too low. The tool will also limit itself from drawing more current than the battery ability so this keeps the cells from overheating.
There is no BMS in Bosch battery packs so it will never die(electronically) on you. The only way the battery pack go bad is when one of the cells give up. Unlike other brands, where the electronic nanny 'trips' whenever there is an unhealthy cell or drained battery pack left discharged for long period of time.
Other than the simple discrete parts that translate the battery voltage to LED level. There is a second board with two resistors to identify the battery pack type for the chargers to go slow or fast.
In the Bosch 18V battery pack there is no BMS that measures and balance each cell voltage during charging. The charger measures the total battery pack voltage as a whole. Are you shocked now??
Bosch get away with this because they match the cells capacity and impedance before putting them together as a group so they don't go unbalanced when in use. This also weed out any potentially weak cells so Bosch battery packs are fully tested down to each cells before they leave the factory.
https://youtu.be/BPqcQV3A66U?t=3m32s
It's no surprise. Every other companies spend money building BMS busy protecting their battery and tool ecosystem where as Bosch and Dewalt are more open to third party batteries. It's clear the BMS are not as simple as protecting the cells, they benefit the companies more than the consumers.
Some may say Bosch is cutting cost but which other tool company as huge as Bosch dare to skip the BMS other than Dewalt at risk of fire and injury to the user? It's clear they have tested each individual cells before assembly for not requiring BMS. Old cells may lower performance but it's better than a completely dead cell. I choose Bosch or Dewalt powertool system.
@skillet:
Still a surprise I reckon.
All it would take is for a tool to get dropped and a cell gets damaged… No cell protection = potential fireIt's kinda irrelevant that the user is to blame if your company's name is being blasted around the world linked to a fire for a few days/weeks before the pre-existing damage news comes out.
Shower thought of the day: Why don't they ever make power tools that just take in 18650 lithium batteries? Would make things so much easier and more universal.
Would make things so much easier and more universal
You answered your own question
How are they going to make profit on the battery packs too then?
Yes also the day Coke releases its formula to other bottlers etc etc
Because then you can buy any batteries - manufacturers want you to buy the batteries from them.
Aside from the profit motive on battery packs, the tools would be a bit more expensive as each tool would now need a BMS built in (instead of having it in the battery pack), battery holders for 5 cells and other associated mechanical pieces.
Do we allow 10 cells for heavy duty users? Better not, because people will put in cells at different charge levels and break something.
Invariably some customers would also blame the tool manufacturer when their $1 AliExpress 50Ah 18650 cells are not true to label.
However, mains power is pretty universal and mains powered tools are usually cheaper than their battery powered equivalents…
If you disassemble the batteries they do just have unprotected 18650 cells inside.
In true OzBargain spirit I bought some cheap 2.0Ah batteries and a charger from Aldi's previous clearance deal https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/349611 without even owning any tools and I am now wondering whether I should try to sell them or continue to wait for bargains on tools I don't really need :-) BTW, the Aldi brand was Xfinity Plus and it seems Dewalt tools use this type battery. Is there a generic/single name for this type of battery ecosystem/standard?
What samlor said,,,,,anyone know.
OK, any/one use case such as charging USB devices is enough excuse to keep me in, thanks.
https://www.ozbargain.com.au/comment/5513714/redir
https://www.ozbargain.com.au/comment/5513740/redirOzito Power X Change 18V USB Power Station
https://www.bunnings.com.au/ozito-power-x-change-18v-usb-pow…I got one of these, for $12.95 its a great addition, already used it a few times.
I mainly got these for when I go camping, can take a couple of my ozito batteries and with this adapter, have my phones/tablets/anything USB charged all week.
Is there a generic/single name for this type of battery ecosystem/standard?
No. It's not a standard. It's just that the Aldi made their batteries compatible with DeWalt. DeWalt and other name brands deliberately don't make their batteries compatible.
Gotcha, thanks. Also fits Wesco brand tools according to https://www.ozbargain.com.au/comment/5416594/redir.
Actually, the ALDI Xfinity Plus batteries have a different connector so I'm going to need to return the Ozito Power X drill & USB adapter I just bought from Bunnings :-(
Got an old 12V Ozito battery not holding its charge. Anyone know if the 18V will fit a 12V drill?
Nope, won't work.
The regular ozito and the ozito power x brands are two completely different systems, so no.
The power x brands are OK, the regular ozito cordless stuff is rubbish.
I have the just previous to power x change 18v and it's far from rubbish, does everything and never had an issue
The issue with a brand like Ozito is they just go to existing manufacturers and badge their products, which means the quality can vary a fair bit in the range.
Ozito are Einhell, a German company. Power X-change is even on the Einhell front page.
@ColonialBoy: They are now, they weren't in the past, Einhell only bought out Ozito a couple of years ago mainly to gain access to Australia/Bunnings market, how much they now use the parents companies gear (like the power-x range) and how much they use old suppliers I don't know.
Is yours the little Ozito LIR-012, a triple cell 12V LiIon battery slides into its handle from the bottom?
They used to sell this seperately as a drill/driver, but there was also an impact driver and a multi-tool that took these little batteries. All three tools sold for $89 and later on $75, which was a popular deal on OzB https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/92648
I rebuilt my house with these three little tools. The impact driver was incredible. Multi-tool is awful and far too loud, but handy.
That was years ago. I learned not to overheat the batteries, to keep a few spare rather than cycle them without time to cool off. Anyhow after that the batteries died out, and for ages I couldn't get replacement batteries, or rebuild packs to suit, anywhere.
But I figured out how to sort it in the end, and can retrofit 3 new 3.7V cells very successfully. Here's how:
It requires some fiddling but basically you remove the 2 screws at the end, de-solder the old battery pack (from both the newly purchased and old battery), and then solder the new one to the Ozito PCB. Carefully re-install with the padding so its all snug and settles back in the same position. Tip: Note how high the PCB sits on the old battery before you remove the cells.
I added some heatsink compound to the thermistors once it was soldered, to ensure the two thermistors collect the heat reading from all 3 batteries properly, not just one or two depending on how they sit beside the cell. This way the new cells will last longer.
You just need to buy the red Milwaukee 2.0AH 12V LiIon packs and be handy with a soldering iron, and careful NOT to let anything short! They were under $20 posted IIRC,
Here's a link to two: https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2x-2-0AH-12V-Li-ion-Battery-For-…
Thanks for posting this deal, OP.
Just a heads up that the Power X circular saw is also on sale for $59, which is $40 less than its $99 RRP.
I thought it was always 59? Thats what i bought mine for a few months back
Pricehipster doesn't seem to be showing any of the power x-change models for me atm to check price history
It has always been $99, which is a bit expensive. As SteveandBelle has said, $59 is much more realistic. Thy also have the Power X branded 150mm blades for $9.95 and $12.95 for the 18 tpi and 24 tpi, respectively.
Nice find! I got mine a few weeks ago when it was reduced (only by $10) to $89. See my review above… it's a good little saw but has its limitations. $59 is a far more realistic price for it. Bargain! Worth a separate listing?
I bought one of these the last time it was special for this price, but I actually (kinda) wish I didn't, as in the end that is what stopped me from buying the recent $79 blower/trimmer kit deal which comes with a 3Ah already but those tools too.
Return it to bunnings?
nah bit too lazy to do that lol. I mean I don't really need the line trimmer, already have a blower (Ryobi deal).
It's always good to have backup batteries to swap in when you run out of charge, or throw away when they inevitably die.
They hold less and less charge with each charge cycle - so having more than one will keep you going longer.
Is there a way to find out how much charge my batteries hold relative to advertised capacity?
Yes but it requires specialised equipment.
not a battery deal again..going to spend now
Does anyone know if these would charge on a different brands charger? (If you could make an adaptor for the pins to align)
The big news here is that it looks like Aldi are going to have some power tools on sale maybe next Saturday.
Aldi only have a pic of the cover of the catalogue available and next Wednesday's offering. They are going to have a Table Saw for $149, which looks exactly like Ozito's
Of course this means more sales at Bunnings!
Any one here receieved the Aldi catalogue for next week?
Normally aldi catalogue available in store now. Some stores even have them on Tuesday.
Wish I came across an Aldi store clearing out their charger and batteries like another OzB saw one time (like $10/$20 batteries or something like that).
One Aldi I went to had a couple of leftover 18V sliding mitre saws left, clearing them out for $99. Definitely would've jumped on that to upgrade my budget Ozito one if I was already in the Aldi system or could pick up charger/batts cheaply. The only similar products are Ozitos corded sliding mitre saw ($149) and Ryobi One+ cordless mitre non-sliding (skin-only $199)
In Adelaide, a lot of stores have leftover tools on sale. I just picked up the saw you described above for $69.95.
Another near me has the drill skin for $19.95, but i already have a drill….
I picked up a charger for $9.95 and now just need batteries haha
Wow $70 is a steal, assuming it's not complete junk (haven't seen evidence it is) I'd probably buy it for that price even without the charger/batteries yet :P
Anyone cracked one of these open to see what brand and part number the Li-Ion batteries inside are? They might be good to salvage for other projects at this price.
Yeah I did last time they were cheap, weren't a name brand.
Edit here is the post https://www.ozbargain.com.au/comment/5164038/redir
I'll stick to the Aldi one then with the samsung 2000mAh 20A draw at the same price.
If you are just after the cells then ALDI is the one to go for.
If for the purpose of salvaging the 18650 battery, you may want to consider this https://www.bunnings.com.au/solar-magic-2200mah-lithium-ion-….
I would imagine the 18v battery contains 5 x 18650 batteries. 3 pack of 18650 solar magic batteries equates to $29.7. Save you the hassle.
I think 4.0Ah might contain 10 cells so better value but up voted anyway for the convenience, thanks.
1ah = 1000mah. Each of solar magic battery is 2200mah (or less as the package make mention of it). 5 x of 2200mah = 11ah?
@HL2: I'm going by the 2.0Ah apparently have 5 cells. Do you need to calculate/convert voltage? Each individual cell is only 3.7V.
@HL2:
Nope. When run in series your voltage is right but capacity will be 2.2Ah. If you ran them all in parallel (don't do this for safety) the pack would be 3.7V 11Ah.@HL2:
Each 18650 Cell = 3.7V (2000mah/2ah)
2 Cells in parallel = 3.7v (4000ah/4ah)
To reach 18v and you need 5 in series ( 5 x 3.7V = 18.5V w/ 2aH).
Each 18V 4ah power tool battery would therefore contain cells of 2p5s (5 series of 2 parallel) = 10 cells.
@HL2:
When in parallel the capacity (mAh/Ah) stacks but the voltage stays the same.
When in series the Voltage stacks but the capacity stays the same.
So stacking your 5 cells in parallel would end up with a 3.7V pack with 11Ah capacity.
Stacking your cells in series would end up with 18.5v with 2.2ah Capacity
Usually cordless tools batteries are high performance high current discharge cells. Nothing like the cells made for slow discharging solar application. Even laptop packs are poor cells compared to powertools cells. If you are after the capacity then it's very good deal but not if you need to rebuild a cordless tool pack.
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wow nice find