Not much to say. Hope those looking for a cheap productive laptop find this useful. I found chromebook running android apps like Tripview is very useful.
Lenovo ThinkPad 11e Chromebook $199 Plus $9.99 Delivery at JB Hi-Fi Online
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comes with Meltdown & Spectre ?
No
Google has fixed its products at an OS level - so it should be good, not sure why you were downvoted
Another thing to mention is that a Chromebook is waaaay harder for hackers to find exploits for than Windows or Mac laptops. Also they are a very small part of the market so hackers would nearly always go after the bigger fish first (Windows & Mac).
Only the very old Intel Atoms were unaffected by Meltdown, so it affects this processor. Chrome OS 63 addresses Meltdown/Spectre but I'm unsure if this model supports it or not but otherwise it won't be secure.
They've measured very minor performance loss when patching Meltdown which will affect low-end processors like what's found in this laptop the most. Shouldn't be a huge issue in general productivity but is probably measurable.
Pretty good deal for this pricepoint though. Storage isn't great and it looks pretty bulky but if you're not willing to spend much more, it looks usable.
Have 2 HP stream 11's, do you think I'm vulnerable? I'm not v good w computer tech stuff.
Just keep your PC updated with the latest patches. You can't go wrong. Even then, no virus have been known to use these exploits just yet, so just make sure you're getting all your updates this month.
Yes, you are affected. What you really have to do is:
- keep your OS up to date
- keep the apps up to date
- run antivirus software
- do not install silly apps / software
- do not go to dodgy links, download dodgy documents
so exactly what you should have been doing anyway.
Other than that relax :), the big issues are with the big providers like AWS, Google, MS, Rackspace, Linode etc. It looks like they are on top of it so…
That's not true. Even the latest 7th Gen i series are affected (though to a lesser degree). The problem is with the memory management and caching algorithms that almost all the CPU manufacturers use. The exploit allows a potentially malicious app using the same CPU Core to tap into the information from the other applications because the cache is "opened" at the same time. You could potentially record this information elsewhere and basically get enough data including such things as Passwords and important information.
Apparently anything older than Haswell will see up to 30% decrease in performance after patching (which almost basically stops caching). Newer CPUs will see a 10% decrease. This CPU is Braswell based which is a derivative of the Haswell era, so it will be affected just as much.
This is actually a very good price. The typical base level chromebooks have a celeron N3060 processor. If this is actually a N3150 with 4GB Ram it would make a great uni/high school laptop. It might be the "rugged" model that is marketed as being a bit tougher for use at school. In effect its actually just a cheaper thicker shell.
Does this run Android apps out of the box? I was pretty impressed with how my c302 did, been using Android apps & games on it every day with no problems.
According to this:
https://www.chromium.org/chromium-os/chrome-os-systems-suppo…Lenovo ThinkPad 11e Chromebook (Gen 4) is already can run Android Apps, an d in Stable Channel
But don't have it myself
Cool looks like it will. Although no touch screen so won't suit all apps.
Yup. If anything, I'd be getting a Chromebook for using Android apps. Android tablets don't seem to be popular anymore.
Note this is the 3rd Gen model, but reported to run Android apps on the above link. No Type-C for charging sadly.
16GB storage - you wont get much Android apps running on it though. Be lucky to get 8-10GB free from it.
Yeah the storage kills it. Too small even for mobile phones
Possibly expand storage through SD card or USB?
@leTintin: Not all apps can be moved to SD though.. unless they've implemented the same as Android where they extend the storage out to the card. Otherwise it's almost not worth the effort really.
can you do that for any android? I couldn't move most of my apps to the SD card for my Huawei phone though.
@Jared17: Not all apps are movable and when they are, its only the APK part of it (the data files and OBBs dont generally move). These days, it's getting worse as most app developers are getting lazy and asking you extend the storage to your card. You need to be on Marshmallow and above. Follow this guide:
https://www.guidingtech.com/65271/increase-internal-storage/
If I could downvote JB HIFI and their dodgy BYOD programs for schools I would. I cannot even use a Gift voucher to purchase a Chromebook for the son because someone gave us the JB HIFI voucher as a present. Not to mention the stupid prices they are charging (they are selling the upgraded model of this e11 with the 3450 processor and 32GB of Storage for $453 from their "education" site.
JB do a good bit of shady shit, you're not wrong,
But why the (profanity) can't you use your gift card to buy the laptop? I paid for my laptop in 2015 from them, coincidentally also a Chromie, with part cash and part eGift Card from online surveys.
I know!! I said the same thing and sent emails to and fro with them about this. They have not bothered to respond anymore and insists that the gift cards are only available for Retail store only. I would like to get this model but it means I will not be able to purchase the Google Management license on top of this that the school requires to manage the unit remotely. It is in the T&Cs apparently that you can't refund the money and that you can't use it with their commercial or education divisions.
Considering they all trade under the same JB HIFI Australia name, why can't I use the damn gift card that was gifted to my son? It really does not make any sense.Bull. (profanity). Shit.
I just signed into my JB account and saw a bunch of things (mostly PSN cards admittedly) that were paid for entirely with online gift cards.
I'd say they've made some kind of error with the particular product and their idiot support staff have no idea what they're talking about. (profanity) useless.
Sorry to hear about your hassles :/
@TheDukeOfNukem: thanks for the support. Going to take it up with the school and with the ACCC on this issue. Absolutely ridiculous..
just in time for school's byod. would this be okay for a primary school kid?
Nope. You HAVE to buy from their JBHIFI education department for BYOD (LOL.. incorrect terminology actually).
There is a Google Management License that cost about $30USD used by the school to manage the device from. Buying this will not give you the license and it is not available to be purchased retail/off the shelf unless you go through a distributor.
Painful..
In the past I have picked up management licenses from promevo.com in the US without any problems. When the dollar was around parity it was a better deal and less hassle than sourcing them locally.
Thanks for that. So do I just purchase through them and register my serial number or something with them to add into the Google database or something? Never really played with the Chromebooks too much tbh..
@bchliu: I always bought the licenses to add to my existing google apps accounts. I'm not sure how to buy the license and add it to the school's management console. Maybe contact Promevo or the school and see what they can tell you.
@skwashd: Thanks.. I'm gonna take it up with the school when they are back from leave to complain about the JB services.. It's not that I can't buy it with cash, but it's the principle that I have a gift card in credit with their company, but they are refusing to honour it. I mean, what's even more stupid is that they ask you to go to a store to pick up the computer after the order - yet, they refuse to take money at the counter for this.
Seriously bad business process.
I work in a school where we supply Chromebooks to all year 3-6 and use Google Management as they are our Chromebooks, but if it's BYOD, why would the school need to manage it?
Arguably it shouldnt be called BYOD. More CYOD (Choose your own device from 3 models) and ONLY from JB HIFI Education. Basically you pay for it and the school uses the educational license to manage it and set it up to whatever their pseudo-SOE is. Just saves the school from buying laptops for your kids I suppose..
I haven't worked with Chrome books, but with Windows group policy (windows equivalent of Google management I assume) allows administrators to push out updates for things like printer drivers, proxy settings (for internet), etc. It's more to ensure the student can print, access and the internet and has all the programs they need without assistance setting everything up.
May be easier to manage in small schools, but when there's 800+ students you simply don't have the staffing hours to assist every single one with manually adding printers and setting proxies.
@dyl: lol. I use to design, manage and implement SOE on 15000 PCs and 4000 servers for an ASX listed company so I'm very familiar with what this stuff is and why it's needed.
The biggest problem is the school calling it a BYOD program but only gives a partial selection of choices and allow only one sales channel to purchase it from. Furthermore, this stupid company refuses to acknowledge it's own credit currency (even though they're trading under the same company) and does not bother to return calls to it's customers. Tempted to take it up to the next level with ACCC or equivalent.@dyl: Nope.. Just buying it outright. $500 gift card from a relative - the Chromebook is only $400 or so. Plenty of credit towards it. I'm gonna try hassling them again today and worst case put me over to the complaints department.
https://www.jbhifi.com.au/Gift-Cards/Gift-Card-Terms-and-Con…
- JB Hi Fi Gift Cards (Gift Cards) entitle the holder to goods/services equal to the value stated on the Gift Card or remaining after partial redemption.
- Gift Cards are only redeemable within any JB Hi-Fi Store in Australia and the online retail store www.jbhifi.com.au
- Gift Cards are not redeemable for goods purchased from JB Hi-Fi Solutions (including goods purchased from JB Hi-Fi Solutions websites).
- Gift Cards are not redeemable for JB Hi-Fi Education Orders, BYOD Portal Orders or Family and Friends Orders (Including goods purchased from these websites).
@dyl: Yep. Read this already. We got it as a gift from relative so didnt really have say in it. Not like I readily went out to buy them at 10% off during the last frenzy etc. Just pointing out how unfair some of their BS policies are.
Anyone here ever tried CloudReady on an old laptop? I have an old Eee PC lying around, but I couldn't boot into it. Couldn't even hide the splash screen to see what was going on. $200 is a bit much to just play around with Chrome OS, and I don't have a desktop to run VMs on it.
Computer Type - Chromebook
Display Size (Inches) - 11.6
Resolution (Pixels) - 1366 x 736
Screen Resolution - HD
Processor Type - Intel Core Celeron
Processor Model Number - N3150
Processor Cores - Quad Core
Processor Memory Cache - 2MB L2
Processor Clock Speed (GHz) - 1.6
Processor Max. Clock Speed (GHz) - 2.08
RAM (GB) - 4.0
eMMC Storage - 16GB
Total Storage - 16GB
Card Reader - 4-in-1
Webcam - True
Bluetooth - Yes
Wi-Fi - 802.11 a/b/g/n
Operating System - Google Chrome
Manufacturer's Warranty - 1 Year