"What's wrong with the NBN?" (ABC 4-Corners summary)

Link to video: http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/whats-wrong-with-the-nbn/9077…


From the start, Australia's National Broadband Network was billed as a game changer that would future proof the nation by delivering super fast internet services.

Almost a decade on from those promises, there's a growing number of angry residential customers and small businesses who are bitterly disappointed with the NBN.

"I am a very, very frustrated NBN customer… What I've got is a trench running halfway up the driveway and a piece of PVC pipe with a rope running through it - and that's all." Customer

On Monday night, as the NBN reaches a milestone, passing the half-way point in its rollout, Four Corners investigates the problems fuelling this dissatisfaction.

"Nobody knows what anybody else is doing. The retail service providers don't know what NBN Co is doing, I don't know what either of them are doing, and NBN Co don't seem to know what they themselves have done." Software developer

For many Australians, the NBN has turned out to be a lottery. Not all customers are receiving the same connections. And in some regional areas there is a stark digital divide, between those with high-speed fibre to the premises, and neighbours stuck with old copper connections who worry they're becoming digital second class citizens.

"On the left hand side as we're driving down this street, those houses can have access to fibre to the node. On the right hand side, they're fibre to the premises, so this is the digital divide." Former Mayor

We examine what's driving the decision making about the rollout, and investigate
why some customers are being short-changed on expensive data plans that fail to deliver what they promise."

"We definitely feel like we're being ripped off." Customer

As critics warn that Australia will soon be a decade behind its near neighbour New Zealand in the digital transformation, reporter Geoff Thompson visits New Zealand's 'Gigatown', Dunedin, to look at how superfast broadband is transforming the way they do business. Back in Australia, the government insists the NBN is going to plan and will be steadily upgraded.

"The NBN will be fit for purpose. It will support the needs that Australians have. But no network, no technology, is ever set in stone. There are always upgrades." Communications Minister

In interviews with the Communications Minister and the current and former heads of NBN Co. we examine whether a decade of politicking has compromised the ability of the NBN to deliver for all Australians.

"I just feel incredibly disappointed that an opportunity to build a first class network that would set Australia up for the future was squandered, and squandered for the wrong reasons." Former NBN executive

Comments

        • @tryagain:

          apart from the fast that fiber would have always been only for the rich.. Telsta and Optus charge 1.6k per month for 10/10MB fiber internet here in Australia with 100GB per month download limit.

        • @vid_ghost:

          apart from the fasct that fiber would have always been only for the rich.

          I don't think that is a "fact" based on reality, New technology is always charged at a premium and early adopters pay for the privilege, prices then come down and it is available at a price that the majority are able/willing to pay. Otherwise, we would all still all be on dial-up.

          Telsta and Optus charge 1.6k per month for 10/10MB fiber internet here in Australia with 100GB per month download limit.

          That must be a business plan? If so then I don't really think that the comparison carries much weight to residential plans, I was on a residential fibre plan well before the NBN at a previous house (can't remember the actual speed) but it was comparable to other ADSL prices at the time, Nothing like 1.6K/month

  • +5

    LNP are they are bunch of unimaginative, backwards looking elites pandering to morons.

    • +2

      "Howard's battlers" screwed the country.

      • +3

        Yep, selfish old crusty rich conservatives. Like the ones living in Abbotts electorate keeping him in the job.

        Clean coal. Climate change deniers. NBN is not needed (all I need is my newspapers and 2GB talk back radio). The whole gay marriage thing. Just bloody hopeless old fashioned thinking. Hurry up and die already so we can finally move on with progressive policy.

  • I think if you compare how many "field workers" they are recruiting, vs "desk jockeys" it starts to become pretty clear what the issue is: https://nbn.wd3.myworkdayjobs.com/nbncareers/jobs

  • +2

    Bill morrow sent an internal email to everyone teaching them how to be resilient and face adversity in light of the recent media coverage. holy shit it's hilarious.

    1. Something wrong with the project name. It should be called National Fibre Network
    2. No minimum standard. It should provide each household with a minimum of 100mbps / 2ms local ping.
    • 2ms is unreasonable as a minimum. Completely agree with the bandwidth though

      • Fine make it 6ms. Just for comparison Singaporean and korean high end fiber user get around 1ms latency to local server.

        • Define local server? That speed to the node you're connecting to is reasonable, and maybe to content hosted by the ISP, but if it's hosted at a different DC run by a different ISP then it's probably not going to happen

        • @tassietigermaniac:
          Local means same network within the closest state so to the user. Local packets are not routed to external entity and within 4 hops away.

        • @pig:

          That's where my confusion is. Local in networking normally means it doesn't even reach the WAN side of the modem

  • the problem is IT WAS A WET BLANKET EVEN BEFORE IT STARTED RAINING yucka yucka

  • +1

    LOL. Everyone say whatever you want politically or $$$, but at the end of the day if FIBRE was laid as originally planned we would all be happily bitching about the cost of our FTTP plans while enjoying the speedy connection……. Instead…… we now have this dog's breakfast and we're actually paying top $$$ to keep eating it lol.

    • I think even more of us would be bitching about not having anything as FTTP takes even longer to implement.

  • +3

    Here's my opinion, many of you may not agree, but I just want to voice it.

    FTTP should have been the concrete goal from the start, and remained as such. Cost, time and profit shouldn't have been the main considerations, in fact, profit should NEVER have been the consideration.

    There should have been a contract to pay Telstra an access fee for their infrastructure UNTIL the roll-out reached a certain point, and then the infrastructure would be purchased for an agreed amount.

    NBN should have been completely Government owned, this is a service the majority of Australians need, so it only makes sense to me.

    Internet speed should also be unrestricted, and cost of internet as a part of our taxes.

    In summary, I believe that regardless of however long it took OR cost, FTTP should have been the end goal, with it being Government owned. Cost should also have been in taxes completely, so we aren't left with the shitty nonsense of having to pay extra to find out that it makes no difference whatsoever.

    I'm sure that there's flaws in what I believe would be ideal, but I'm certain that it would be possible to fix the flaws and make a system that is ideal for most citizens.

    Also, some people may think that it would be wrong to charge people for internet in their taxes if they don't use it, but honestly, I still think it would work well. It's not like we're gaining anything from many of the other things that tax money pays for, and this would be best for the majority of Australian citizens.

    • +2

      And you know what's funny? When it's all done and dusted, FTTP will be exactly what this country gets - in 2117.

      • I know, that's one of the worst parts.

        The Australian population believed that FTTN would save money, when in reality all that could possibly happen is short term savings, long term it's bound to cost a LOT more to stay outdated.

        • +3

          I hope they use Monster cables.

        • +1

          @Munki: What the… Are you crawling through my comment history o.O

        • @Munki:

          Clear, or brightly coloured with massive logos and stickers?
          Because I swear just one of those cables is good for 1.21 gigawatts easy ;).

        • @BradleyDS2: A happy coincidence I recognised your username… :D

  • +2

    This isn't a labor v liberal thing, it just isn't what it was billed as.

    I remember being one of the 'lucky' few to get NBN pretty early and being hit by constant congestion, my whirlpool posts were outright attacked by fanboys who wanted to believe that the NBN would be different but alas it's another POS.

    • +1

      Actually it is. Libs nobbled it to be a voting point of difference - a marketing gimmick.

      • +2

        Nope, I am on fibre to the premise. I watched the Labour adds 'THE REVOLUTION IS COMING NO MORE SLOW INTERNET NO MORE BLAH BLAH' bunch of BS.

        • Most aren’t on FTTP - that’s the ‘marketing’ point

    • Congestion comes purely from your service provider choice on NBN. Can't blame transition or the NBN. Unless you attack the price they charge the ISP, but the rates aren't unreasonable. Whoever your carrier is didn't buy enough bandwidth from NBN. There is literally no way the congestion came from NBN

      • I understand this, but at the time no one wanted to believe that this problem carried over to NBN as well. Until 30000 threads popped up ith the same issue.

        • Ahh, you're referring to the Whirlpool people? Fair enough then, they were pretty bad at the time.

          Congestion is only ever an issue these days due to business decisions. If you've got the right infrastructure then you don't get congestion, pure and simple. And FTTP is the right infrastructure to avoid it. However, yeah, ISP's don't want to spend more than they have to, so they cut their CVC margins very fine indeed. I remember pushing through emergency upgrades when Netflix first came up Australia officially :P

    • It's irrelevant what it can do in perfect copper. Our issues is old useless copper, degrading copper. Speed will improve from this at the cost of reliability. Expect more drop outs

  • Turmoil promised it would be completed by the end of last year.
    Lying, something the ellenpee is well versed in.

  • +2

    Personally dillusioned by the number of posters that think this is political… FTTP/FTTN/FTTC…

    There are many FTTP customers out there unable to to reach 20Mbps on a 100Mbps plan during peak times and that isn't maxxed bandwidth, just maxxed bandwith that their ISP has purchased.

    Stop flogging the liberal/labor dead horse and focus on the issue. Both parties would have had their own issues regardless of who is in power.

    Thinking we could have achieved FTTP within the promised budget is dillusional.

    • +6

      Libs have blown on their budget by $20B at that’s for the 3rd world copper network.
      You bet it is political

    • +2

      You have a fair point, it wouldn't have been in budget anyway. But it's become political because we've been left with a very expensive mess, huge business contacts that make no sense ($9b for copper support is horribly inflated) and old tech that is guaranteed to need replacing anyway. At least if you're going to go over budget, build the thing that will last and have less ongoing costs!

  • Is there any chance for Google to introduce google fiber i this country? :(

    • nope.. not worth it .. they have even stooped doing in in America.. the return was non existent for them even in area's where it made financial sense

  • +1

    Believe it or not guy, im going with vividwireless unlimited 4g,it is quite good though since taylors hill only has fttn and in two topics about nbn there are more conplains than positive comments so i rather pay a bit higher to get stable connection than drop out all the time

  • maybe we should ask, what is right with NBN?

  • Looking at this mess from the outside and without getting into the messy politics it looks to me as there should be a simple goal to aim for with any society's internet speed:
    i.e.
    Ideal goal - Gigabit internet (apparently can be achieved?)
    Current Australian goal - 100Mbs
    Current real situation - ??<<100Mbs and that is only a "privileged" few

  • +12

    Summary, anyone with half a clue already knows, Abbott and Turnbull sold the most important infrastructure project in the history of the country out the door to appease Murdoch and his failing Foxtel brand.

    Massive failure on all sides of politics because nobody successfully argued against those Liberal con artists as to how important high speed internet is to a countries growth and that it was worth even more than the billions investment, because it would deliver economic opportunity for decades. 10 Years ago, 99% of the world would never have imagined things like facebook and google maps and countless other examples becoming integral to business and lifeetc. Online services we cant even imagine 5-10-15-20 years into the future will now be a decade or more delayed as our internet infrastructure lags behind the world thanks to these pricks.

    Turnbull was nothing more than another douchebag merchant banker (aka criminal) who styles himself as a genius investor, but he literally won the lottery with last minute investment in Ozemail that wasn't even really needed and which the owners regretted as he pocketed 10s of millions for nothing… But by contrast, he bought telstras ancient cobwebbed copper network for 5billion for the NBN in what anyone with half a brain would analyse as one of the worst business deals in human history. The guy is a complete stooge and history will show him as such.

    • +1

      Nailed it.
      Great post

      • -5

        Too much of a personal attack to be of much value imo.

        • Cherry on top, actually

        • +1

          @yoyomablue:

          human trash is all he is!.. Australia lost out bigtime because of this guy

    • Agreed. Turnbull is a parasite

  • +5

    In line with all the hype, some people expect an earth shattering experience, but when they find that most web sites download much like they did with ADSL, it seems such an anti-climax. Something like 90% of NBN subscribers are choosing plans limited to 12 or 25Mbps speeds. Then of course it's not physically possible to download as fast as the site you're connected to can upload at - a bit like when we all have cars capable of doing 200kph but if the traffic moves at 80 with no where to overtake……………………

    The ABC are working against the government they make a big song and dance about angry customers, the fact that complaints have almost doubled in 2016/17 over the previous year, but make little of the fact that three times as many premises came online in the same timescale. Something like 50,000 premises coming online weekly, I understand.

    The other point the ABC didn't make anything of is the fact that the NBN is the wholesaler and don't have any control over issues subscribers are having with their retail provider. I think we all know how modern telco's operate, they advertise a service, get a verbal or online undertaking, take your credit card payment and send out a modem. They're not normally interested in the state of your home wiring with all it's diy connection joints, so a phone can be put in other rooms and most people don't have a clue about telephony and cables or setting security on the home network. So the subscriber getting no back up feel abandoned and let down by their NBN experience. So NBNco and the Government again get a bad rap- the ABC do know how people think and who'll be blamed and it's not Telstra or iinet etc.

    Then there's the story at how ISP's limit their costs by ordering insufficient data from the wholesaler, meaning that at peak times things slow up and the service ordered isn't delivered.

    • Spot on, don't forget most of the content resides offshore where we are connected by rather small and unreliable connections.

      Unreliable as fishermen, storms keep breaking them.

      It's like giving everyone fireman hoses and having a garden hose as the. Feed from the main.

    • Yes, it sounds like a complex problem that would need a very good leader to help sort out.
      Malcolm, is that you?

    • Some good points.

      Mostly to play Devil's advocate here, let's not forget that FTTP also fixes the issue of ancient internal wiring by removing the customer's need to use it

  • +5

    Governments have no business building networks. Haven't we learnt anything ? Labor had a grand idea that wasn't deliverable for any reasonable price and too late for Liberal to put an end to it when they got it. So this is what we have !

    • Sir you speak the truth

    • Labors original idea was GREAT!.. build the network in dense city area's that would sign and up start the gravy train money flowing.

      The had to make a deal with the independents to secure power and their plan for the NBN FTTP had to change to regional area's where grani and pop lived who dont know what the internet even is..

      They spend oodles of money to upgrade there's area's where NO ONE SIGNED up to anything faster then 12mbps connections just to check email once a week LOL

      No gravy train.. NO money = budget blow out.. = abbot was able to blame them for it

      It was also harder to work in those remote area's so it took 3 times as long to install.. setbacks .. people voting liberals were at fault because it put labor in a position that forced it to make this horrible deal.

      • +2

        people voting liberals were at fault because it put labor in a position that forced it to make this horrible deal.

        Labor made the deal, can't blame anyone else but them. Windsor and Oakeshott would have supported them whether they went rural first or not, it was just icing on the cake for them.

        • +1

          true i guess.. they lived up to their deal with the independents.. bad move

  • +8

    Any time goverment gets involved in a business it's a disaster for taxpayers, customers, shareholders.

    • +1

      You win

    • +1

      I think this quote is fitting.
      “Government should be a referee, not an active player.”

    • +2

      I've run out of negative votes, so all I have is a :( for you.

      $200 billion in cost and up to 40 years to build?
      Under either model we fibre and copper?
      Giving ownership of a fibre network to Optus and Telstra?

      You're either trolling very badly, or really believe what you've typed.
      Either way I'm speechless.

  • +8

    I agree that the whole rollout of the NBN is crap, but I seem to be in a fortunate minority that has had a great NBN experience, such as it is. Admittedly we waited a long time for anything to even happen. Once HFC went live in our area I ordered my service through Aussie Broadband. The NBN tech came at the agreed time, and we had service within an hour. We still have 85-95MBps at peak times, albeit we pay a bit more through ABB, but I am reasonably happy with how the whole thing went.

    Sorry for the overly cheery tale, but I am honestly really happy with how it worked out on my end.

    • +1

      Same here. I did the same on my Skymesh account with the month to month plans I decided to live a little and go for 100/40, I was getting 109Mbps at peak time with them. I have since downgraded back to 25Mbps as that is well and above our needs. Further, very few people have a need for that sort of speed (83% of NBN users being connected to 25 Mbps or less). So i'm really struggling to see what the issue is?

      I used to have a HFC cable connection and again, is there much point? No, the only difference is i am paying about 40% less to be connected to the NBN. Love the NBN.

  • +1

    The 3rd world fraudband network by the Turmoil government has been picked apart plenty of times on The Conversation - academics more educated than 99.9% of people on here:
    https://theconversation.com/profiles/rod-tucker-2000/article…

    Maybe the Michaelia Cash saga will divert attention away - lesser of 2 annoyances for the ellenpee….

  • Well, you're the idiots who votes them in, so suck on it.

    • Actually most people voted for someone else and many people only vote for one of these retards because it's illegal not to.

  • +2

    Liberals stuffed up again. If good old Johnny didn't sell Telstra (I believe all utilities should be government owned), then the upgrade could have happened some time ago and would have been much cheaper.

    Liberals broke the nbn. If it wasn't chopped up with mixed technology and was successful, it'd make Labor look good. They can't have that. The amount of BS and corruption regarding the purchasing of network from Telstra is a joke.

    Oh and FTTN is not cheaper than FTTP. Don't believe the lies. The amount thrown at FTTN and HFC to get it working is a joke. Plus FTTP type 3 architecture is now being deployed in all new developments. Type 3 no longer uses an FDH (Cabinet in the street), but rather everything is below ground. So rolling out FTTP now is much cheaper than FTTN.

  • +1

    Liberals = Privatisation. The one and only reason needed for me to vote for the Labour party.
    I want to know if NBN is possible, but you will never know.

  • +2

    I don't even think some people understand just how behind VDSL is for those that it matters most for. With fibre NBN rural schools and universities could have connected into something like AARNet over NBN and have 10gbps connections. It would have completely eliminated internet issues - internet bandwidth could have been upgraded at the same right as your local area network. Instead, rural schools have to load balance 3-5 VDSL connections for barely even 1/50th the performance.

    Worst of all, in 10-20 years when it's common for computers to have 10gbps LAN ports and interconnection between switches is 100gbps, we'll be stuck on a newer version of VDSL maxing out at ~240mbps.

    Note, sure, schools could invest in local caching (and schools do as is), but it's far more efficient to host things off site. Why host it yourself if someone already is?

  • +2

    Love seeing all of the Lib boot-licking cretins trying the old "let's not make this political; there is enough blame to go around". Are you (profanity) kidding?

    Attempts to rewrite history aren't going to work & defending shit governments with bad ideas who cravenly obey vested interests to create policy just (profanity) all of us in the end. But as long as you don't have to admit that your side was wrong, right?

    • +1

      Yep, good call & getting to the psychological heart of the matter.

      It’s called ‘cognitive dissonance’ & need to mentally create false equivalencies to resolve said dissonance….

  • +1

    Remember, both the Liberals and the ALP want to sell the NBN off once it is complete. Giving capitalists a monopoly on infrastructure (infrastructure that was created using our tax money) means that we will be egregiously price gouged.

    Data transmission lines are essential infrastructure, like roads, the power grid, gas supply, water supply, and sewerage. Infrastructure is made to serve the current and future needs of the populace, not to make a profit for the government. Infrastructure should be owned by 'the people', not a small cabal of rich individuals, many of whom aren't even Australian citizens. If we keep selling off our farms, houses, infrastructure, mining rights, and hospitals, we will be left with nothing. Australia will become "the poor white trash of Asia", as the Sinaporean prime minister once said.

    One reason why the rollout costs so much, is because the government is paying a fortune to the greedy Telstra shareholders, to use their ducts and lease space for NBN equipment, and also to use Telstra and Optus's coaxial network. This amounts to about $15 per month per connection. If Telstra was still a government owned utility, this exorbitant payout would have been avoided. Telstra should be re-nationalized, just like all the other infrastructure that has been pawned off by federal and state governments of the last 30 years.

    A FTTP network could have been deployed significantly cheaper if they had installed the fiber aerially using existing power poles in older 'brownfield' suburbs.

  • In the words of Homer Simpson it takes 2 to lie.. 1 to lie, and 1 to listen.

    The NBN was a move for short term political gain, at the expense of long term societal gain. Malcolm can attempt to re-write history all he likes, at the end of the day, this is on him, and he should pay for his mistakes. The government takes pleasure in attacking people through tax, people on centrelink and others, but when he does the wrong thing oh how quickly he throws the blame away.

    Very very sad indeed!

  • +2

    I bet someone working at NBN is watching this thread, drinking their coffee doing shit all..

    • +1

      I bet someone everyone working at NBN is watching this thread, drinking their coffee doing shit all..

      Just kidding, they are actually on luxury vacations with all those kick-backs from Telstra - Fuk the Libs.

  • +1

    NBN has lost it, they can use and introduce tech in Bandwidth and all can get fast service guaranteed, if it were not for ISPs or says corporations that needs issues in order to be in business.

    IF 12/1mbps tier were enough for all of us why would there been different tiers.

    If Japan can provide 2gbps over their Electricity poles why cant we, what is wrong here I ll tell you what is wrong, the whole F89oing system is wrong, from politicians to all the bureaucrats.

    This could have been one thing that the politicians would have done right, and could have boasted about this in every election.

    • the speed limitations are a construct of NBN using their CVC pricing method. basically they charge ISPs per GB of bandwidth. the problems of introducing a money-making scheme into a poorly run government entity. IMO every politician and contractor who came up with the shitty effort we have now should be out on their arses for ballsing it up so badly.

  • I have to say, I'm extremely lucky to be in an area where it was implemented correctly, and the speeds/performance is unbelievable. I'm very tempted to never move away from here as it's so nice having ridiculous speeds for everything, streaming everything, downloading massive games in minutes.

    It really makes me sad to think how poorly implemented it's been elsewhere and what it could have been. It was an amazing game-changing idea for Australia.

    • +1

      Is there a list of suburbs with FTTP NBN? Lol :D

    • and that is FTTP? its still shit even on FTTP and I am in new estate, it all depends on the ISP and what their underlying tech is, should they start giving internet speeds upto business standards?? consumer internet sucks

  • +1

    NBN will be obsolete in 7 years time (or sooner).

    Why, because the speed and reliability is too poor in most cases.

    Looking at Europe for instance, many countries offer unlimited data on many of their 4g mobile phone plans. Most (some exemptions) of the European countries offer superfast broadband, which entice people to still signup for broadband plans.

    Down under, the data allowances on mobile phone plans are getting more and more generous every year.

    The near future will have a society that will incorporate artificial intelligence that will be used on stationary devices, moving devices (planes, cargo ships etc etc). In my opinion, if the option is to use a poor speed NBN or a more reliable and faster 4/5 g network, I think most people would choose the mobile network, especially when prices will come down more and data allowances will increase.

    In my personal situation, I am still on ADSL (no nbn yet), speed is 3.5 Mbps. I often choose 4 g for work (not for big files) as the speed is 600% faster compared to the ADSL.

    Some people say that we do not need fast speed like 500 Mbps etc. But once the speed is there, applications and work will be transformed to utilise that speed.

    Just imagine, delicate robotic surgery, sorry patient, connection is a little bit slow at the moment because the other patients are watching Netflix…

    • +1

      mobile networks depend on towers positioned all over the place, the geography of australia makes this prohibitively expensive outside of the major population areas.

      Its is also fast at the moment due to the low percentage of users hammering the crap out of their data allowances.

  • How do providers get away with quoting "between 12Mbps and 100Mbps" for the highest tier plans??

    https://www.tpg.com.au/nbn/

    The range is so broad and basically gives them a 'get out of jail free' card.

    Even Telstra's page is so wishy-washy with regards to expected speeds:
    https://www.telstra.com.au/broadband/nbn/nbn-speeds-explaine…

    It really is a farce

    • Dodo is a bit better 25-100mbps haha

    • +1

      What's even more annoying is that I will be forced off my 100Mbps Telstra Cable connection which is rock solid, fast, no peak congestion (lucky?) and tops out at 119Mbps on speed tests onto a crappy NBN plan which will cost $20/month more for the same "speed", yet will most likely deliver half of what I'm getting now.

      Has anyone had experience with being moved of Telstra cable onto an equivalent Telstra NBN plan?

      • Not yet but I'm in the same boat.

        Also we'll be losing the dedicated phone line with it's own voltage (i.e still works during power blackouts) to sharing the existing Foxtel cable and needing a power supply.

        All that money spent to go backwards.

      • Me too, I already have excellent telstra cable broadband, constantly 36mbps. I'll be forced on to nbn soon, they offered me 12mbps (max) for the same price, fxxxwits.

        I'm hoping there will be more unlimited 4g plans by then.

  • +2

    I can obtain typical speeds of 140/25 on my 4g phone. I think I've seen peak download speeds of 180Mbps. The trend is towards mobile devices so I would think a wireless NBN would be a much better investment than fibre, not to mention cheaper.

  • PEOPLE ARE PURCHASING 25MBIT PLANS BECAUSE THEY CAN'T GET CLOSE TO 50MBIT OR 100MBIT YOU RETARDED (profanity)

    • Citation required for that.

      Whats the uptake rate for the 50Mbit and 100Mbit plans amongst FTTH users?

      • Probably a fair amount

        • +1

          On FTTH, 79% of customers have subscribed to either 12/1 or 25/5 compared to 83% for all NBN customers.

          That leaves a difference of just 4% in favour of FTTP when it comes to consumers selecting the 50Mbit or 100Mbit plans.

  • Two Words

    Tony Abbot

  • Turnbull turned a future proof technology into something from 30 years ago to appease his donators at village roadshow and newscorp (foxtel) so that Netflix and streaming services would struggle to compete

    I will never trust a liberal government after this enormous waste of taxpayers money. I don't care if labor take to Marxism, I still won't trust liberals after this and many other acts of business interests over the peoples.

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