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Kanpeki Knife Set US $220 (Was US $1,295) [~AU $280] @ Kamikoto

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Kanpeki Knife Set US $220 (Was US $1,295) [~AU $280] @ Kamikoto
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suicine94 on 16/08/2017 - 21:56 sea.kamikoto.com (634 clicks)
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Awsome knifes very cheap. Amazing sharp and can cut anything. Comes with 3 knifes.

Each Kamikoto knife is carefully crafted with high quality steel from Honshu 本州, Japan. Fully versed in traditional blade-making practices, Kamikoto's blades are handmade by a select group of experienced craftsmen in Yanjiang, China – a town with over 1,000 years of knife and sword making heritage, and today, the leading center of Japanese-style knife forging, polishing and balancing – where the Japanese legacy is preserved, and carried on, with reverence for the skill of the knifesmiths who evolved this craft centuries ago.

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  • whucenoath on 16/08/2017 - 22:02

    Dang!

  • dosada on 16/08/2017 - 22:03

    Ready to ship on Sept 30th 2017

    • suicine94 on 16/08/2017 - 22:30
      -1

      The japanese samuria master needs 2 weeks to smith the vocanic iron.

  • [Deactivated] on 16/08/2017 - 22:04
    +9

    Here's just one of the reports on this deal I found… might not be legit, happy for someone else to confirm or deny:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/KitchenConfidential/comments/63g3cl…

  • eecan on 16/08/2017 - 22:06
    +4

    These were 80% off 4 months ago… looks like a massively inflated RRP if the 'sale' has been going on for this long.

    April https://www.reddit.com/r/KitchenConfidential/comments/63g3cl…
    June https://www.reddit.com/r/chefknives/comments/6hnrqi/anyone_k…

  • motlking on 16/08/2017 - 22:06
    +6

    Heard these are made in China. Tons of people scammed on Facebook if true.

    • Elderlymango on 16/08/2017 - 22:10
      +1

      To be fair it says that the steel is from Japan, but it's made in China. Says it on the page linked by OP.

    • twocsies on 16/08/2017 - 22:22
      +1

      From The Craft page of the site:

      Each Kamikoto knife is carefully crafted with high quality steel from Honshu 本州, Japan. Fully versed in traditional blade-making practices, Kamikoto's blades are handmade by a select group of experienced craftsmen in Yanjiang, China – a town with over 1,000 years of knife and sword making heritage, and today, the leading center of Japanese-style knife forging, polishing and balancing – where the Japanese legacy is preserved, and carried on, with reverence for the skill of the knifesmiths who evolved this craft centuries ago.

      • roddy84 on 16/08/2017 - 22:27
        +1

        It's really strange it says "high quality steel from Honshu" not the steel type.

        Also I'd expect to see what hardness the steel is.

        • twocsies on 17/08/2017 - 00:03

          For some reason, a Google search for "Honshu 本州, Japan" results in Kamikoto's site in the top ten. Maybe they should focus more on the quality than on SEO.

        • simulacrum on 17/08/2017 - 08:56

          @twocsies:

          Honshu is the largest of the three main islands of Japan (the big one between Kyushu and Hokkaido). The "Honshu steel" claim is literally meaningless and a big rip off indicator. Meanwhile there's no info about the blade geometry, steel composition or Rockwell hardness.

          My bet is it's a poor quality knife made in China from a regular Japanese stainless steel. Truly no bargain here.

  • ax1 on 16/08/2017 - 22:11
    +4

    With similar price range, I still prefer Wusthof knives or global knives.

  • C0mbat on 16/08/2017 - 22:15
    +5

    Has anyone ever heard of this brand? I haven't. Seems similar to the Berghoff brand where you never see them for any less than 80% off.

    Some suspect reviews to
    http://fakespot.com/product/kamikoto-kanpeki-knife-set

    • PVA on 16/08/2017 - 22:24
      +1

      A rating of F for fake reviews, not good

      "Tread lightly, this product may contain a major number of unreliable or low quality reviews!"

  • spikiii on 16/08/2017 - 22:20
    +1

    those reddit threads really put me off pulling the trigger on these….

    considering these ones too:
    https://www.chuboknives.com/products/sakai-takayuki-33-layer…

    • skuzalbut on 16/08/2017 - 22:29
      +1

      that's a good price for a set of 3 sakai-takayuki, they are legit knifes unlike the kamikoto which looks like made in china stuff.

    • simulacrum on 17/08/2017 - 09:04
      +1

      Vg10 is a good steel. Those look legit to me. If you want to put in the time buy a couple of whetstones (1000 and 5000-6000) and learn to sharpen them. A vg10 knife shouldn't need sharpening more than once a year if you use it sensibly. I'd recommend getting a cheap ceramic hone at ikea to straighten the edge every once in a while between sharpenings - the steel ones that come with most knife sets can damage a hardened steel edge very quickly.

  • schquid on 16/08/2017 - 22:30
    +2

    The last deal for these guys (https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/321762) had some pretty damning comments

  • Tunblor on 16/08/2017 - 22:32
    +5

    You can have knives made just for you, steel, shape, grind and handle of your choice, for around this kind of money.

    I have sharpened knives professionally, and have 2 chefs in my family, here's my advice: buy a cheap (3 dollars!) Kiwi knife that is nice and thin, a sharpening stone, and learn how to look after an edge. Even one of those cheap knives gets sharp enough to shave, and stays that way in my house until someone comes along and uses it on a ceramic plate, but because it's soft Steel and thin, it sharpens up extremely quickly.

    • Dontreadthis on 16/08/2017 - 22:50
      +2

      I love Kiwi knifes, a lot of Asian stores sell them for 5 bucks or less. It's amazing how long they stay sharp for and how razor sharp they can get. Two of my best friends are professional chefs and love them as well. They always have a laugh when they see them on the bench at my place and comment that they are sharper than their chefs knifes. Of course no replacement for professional gear but for home use they are brilliant - they last years and cost next to nix.

      • Tunblor on 16/08/2017 - 22:58

        Why do you say they're no replacement for professional gear?

        • Dontreadthis on 17/08/2017 - 00:45
          +1

          They aren't made to last. Metal is a bit flimsy, not weighted/balanced right I guess. They are a bit light if you have a tough job for them. Like any profession, chefs like to have a high quality set of tools that last a long time. It's a point of pride. It's easy to bend a Kiwi but their chefs knifes are much heavier and don't ever bend.

        • Tunblor on 17/08/2017 - 16:14

          @Dontreadthis:
          The handle can be modified with a round file, along with the spine of the knife, so that it fits the hand perfectly and balances to the users' preferences. Different knife holds negate any disadvantages with balance as well.

          A Kiwi knife will last as long as a pro knife, it's the tips and handles that go first, and expensive knives break just the same.

          Thin knives cut better, flex isn't really an issue in my experience. But this leads to my next point…

          Knives are a personal thing; if an expensive knife is what a chef does their best work with, then they should use that knife. Personal preference is ultimately the most important factor.

  • bigrizz on 16/08/2017 - 22:33

    Hey OP. What makes you say they're awesome knives? Do you have them? How long have you had them and what are you comparing them to?

    • suicine94 on 16/08/2017 - 22:44
      -2

      I saw and clicked on the link on facebook and read the description and was awsome.

      They use hand chosen knife experts from china with 1000 year experience to make. Not some iphone sweat shop chinese.

      No i dont have them

      I live at home so i dont do things in the kitchen.
      Was browsing facebook and saw 1.3k down to 220 so posted deal to help people who use the kitchen.

      • dheywood on 17/08/2017 - 10:25
        +2

        Must be something in the water in China if those experts are living over 1000 years old.

      • PVA on 17/08/2017 - 12:15
        +1

        So 2000 people in a factory with 6 months experience is a thousand years remember.

        Seems like these aren't very good, have fake reviews, and a fake RRP.

  • CamTheSnapper on 16/08/2017 - 22:37

    "Can cut anything" Really? Would love to see this go to town on some diamonds.

    • [Deactivated] on 16/08/2017 - 23:05
      +4

      I think it would go to town on some carrots.

      • dan199 on 17/08/2017 - 00:47
        +1

        I see what you did there 😂

  • D3m3ntia on 16/08/2017 - 22:45
    +1

    Hmmm.. can cut anything but provides no information on hardness or type and grade of steel used.

    My knives are Japanese and are more humble in price at 200-300 a piece, but they have all that information and more. Not some random vague story about a guy whos apparently a 4th generation master.

    I put this one with the Daniel Wellington story. Infact their whole page about their craft reads like a random lift from Wikipedia about steel craft in Japan through the centuries. It has nothing specific to them

    • whucenoath on 16/08/2017 - 23:27

      So these knives are crafted by the one and only Daniel-son?!

  • jb6 on 16/08/2017 - 22:56
    +3

    I also did a quick search and am convinced this is a scam

    • Meconium on 16/08/2017 - 23:35
      +2

      I agree that these knives MADE IN CHINA but 'carefully' crafted with high quality steel from Honshu 本州, are a scam 迷惑.

      Stop spoiling our OzBargain suicine94!

      • D3m3ntia on 16/08/2017 - 23:58
        +2

        LoL I like how they put in random Japanese characters.

        • [Deactivated] on 17/08/2017 - 05:03

          Could be Chinese characters. I can hardly tell the difference.

        • Meconium on 17/08/2017 - 09:37

          @ms: Even the Japanese call them Chinese characters, because they are! (Kana are Japanese, but they're derived from kanji (Han characters).)

  • [Deactivated] on 17/08/2017 - 05:05

    I like the Japanese knife-style

  • AlphaSquid1604 on 17/08/2017 - 08:51

    Seen these on Facebook as it comes up as advertisement a lot. Asked a japanese friend about it and he said this is likely very poor quality knife with inflated rrp.
    So little information on website too.

  • choodi on 17/08/2017 - 10:56
    +2

    This is clearly an inflated RRP scam.

    Don't fall for it people. Aggressive Facebook marketing and no one has ever heard of this knife brand before is a dead giveaway.

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