Another freebie from Indiegala. This one has not been free before I believe. It has trading cards that can be used to craft badges to level up your Steam account or that can be sold for some Steam wallet funds.
Grab it while it lasts.
Enjoy.
Another freebie from Indiegala. This one has not been free before I believe. It has trading cards that can be used to craft badges to level up your Steam account or that can be sold for some Steam wallet funds.
Grab it while it lasts.
Enjoy.
Shows $1.99 usd for me
You're doing it wrong…
It's free through Indiegala (to redeem a key on Steam), not through Steam itself. The link to Steam above is for reference, for further information on the game itself (so you can decide whether it's worth going through the process or not).
Which again, is specious. You could provide the link, while clearly stating that it is a link for information/reference only. Then there will be no confusion. (The confusion only arises because of HOW the link was provided, not because of the link itself.)
Eg:
Get your free key from Indiegala here:
[Indiegala link]
More information on the game, and to check if you already have it, see here:
[steam link]
Simple.
Your constant refusal and forthright objection to posting of Steam links (which is useful to many people, hence why someone always posts the Steam link in the comments, and hence why people have liked nukkles' comment) is honestly baffling.
It's not about laziness, it's about efficiency for the community - if you can do one simple thing that can simplify and save time for many in the ozbargain community, why would you be so vociferously opposed to it?
But, that's your choice…as is the choice of people to provide the Steam link in comments, and I for one salute them for doing so!
Youve posted the link to indiegala but not to the game itself.
Makes it confusing
As I said before I believe that people should put in a little effort themselves such as using Google before asking a question here.
If it is something that can't be resolved with a little effort I am happy to provide it but I simply won't support spoonfeeding.
I call BS on that one.
Had Nukkels not provided the link you would have clicked on the deal as you should and would have got the game without issue. There would have been no opportunity to click a wrong link as there wouldn't have been a link to click on it.
No one is saying being confused is your fault but trying to say by not giving you the opportunity to click the wrong link I made you confused is just BS - and you know it.
Yes, you've said it before, but it's still a specious argument.
It's not about people being lazy and not taking the effort. It is about efficiency, and time saving for the community. It is you being able to do one little thing that will prevent many people having to make that effort. That is not spoonfeeding, it is taking a simple step to minimise the redundancy of every person having to look up the link for themselves. It is providing relevant information that you know people will want, so we all can be better off as a community.
I agree 100% that people should learn how to answer a question for themselves through google. Absolutely. But this is not that - this is not answering a dumb question that people should be able to get the answer for themselves, this is providing a time-saving link that you know some people want, and saving everyone from having to take the time to do it themselves when it can easily be done by one person and then shared for the time-saving benefit of the whole community.
It is not spoonfeeding answers, it is time-saving to minimise redundancy.
Seriously, you have spent more time arguing against putting the Steam link than it would have taken to just provide the damn Steam link!!!
Sorry, but you are just being deliberately obtuse.
Again, if you just put this in the description, there would be absolutely no confusion:
Get your free key from Indiegala here:
[Indiegala link]For more information on the game, and to check if you already have it, see here:
[steam link]
Try it, and see.
You are right - some people want it and if it is really important for them they can be expected to spend that little bit of effort to get what is important for them.
Otherwise, if people link to articles etc. why don't we ask them to provide a summary of the article to save time?
Or in a post for an item why do we not provide a direct link taking us to a shoping cart with the item in it - it will save people having to click the link and adding it to the cart?
Also, if it was about time-saving with the amount of time you have spent on this discussion you could have looked up 150 Steam games - keep in mind I am not the one arguing the efficiency and time-saving point here but you are.
For me the answer is simple:
I provide the link to the deal and the basic info. If that is not enough for me and you think something else is important, you need to get it/find it yourself. I am not there for that and I am not happy to anticipate everybody's potential wants and demands.
I think this is my right and freedom to do so as much as it is yours to look up more info if you so choose.
By the way, I do disagree about people being lazy. Some people here ARE lazy - they are even too lazy to read a post thoroughly and then ask questions that could have been avoided had they read properly. And this happens even if the poster provides a TLDR.
Read through some previous post where it was done and people still asked stupid questions and made comments showing they did not make any effort to even read the post (and then get snappy to top it all!)
Here is a lovely one:
https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/322263
Read Budju's comments. That is the BS a person who tries to do others a favour by posting a deal has to put up with.
If you manage to stop these comments and this attitude from people, then I am happy to reconsider. It is time OPs are appreciated instead of being given grief, BS, and endless arguing about tiny little things by some people.
You are right - some people want it and if it is really important for them they can be expected to spend that little bit of effort to get what is important for them.
You are completely and utterly missing the point.
Yes, if it is important to them, they will look it up (and they do!). But if ONE person can do it, and then save everyone else the time, why wouldn't people help others out by posting the link? (Something you self-righteously refuse to do, but thankfully helpful people like nukkels do!)
Your attitude to your fellow ozbargainers is seriously disgusting - why do you have such disdain for helping out other users? You would rather tell them off for being lazy, than actually do one simple thing to help everyone. That is utterly narcissistic behaviour.
Otherwise, if people link to articles etc. why don't we ask them to provide a summary of the article to save time?
Seriously? You are being absolutely ridiculous - summarising an article and copying a link into a description are not comparable actions.
Or in a post for an item why do we not provide a direct link taking us to a shoping cart with the item in it - it will save people having to click the link and adding it to the cart?
Again, you are being ridiculous. Nobody is asking for you to do that for them, because nobody wants you to do that. They want to go to the item page, to be able to read the item description. You wouldn't be saving people time, because they would most of the time be clicking back to see the item. So this is a nonsense suggestion. The time and effort to provide such a link would be actively harmful (causing more time and effort for others) rather than being helpful.
Whereas providing information (ie. a steam link) IS something that is useful to people. That is a small amount of time and effort that can benefit many, and on aggregate, save a much larger amount of time and effort on the part of others.
Again, not comparable.
Also, if it was about time-saving with the amount of time you have spent on this discussion you could have looked up 150 Steam games - keep in mind I am not the one arguing the efficiency and time-saving point here but you are.
I am wasting my time responding to you because you are being an unhelpful person (not the word I would use). I am arguing the point on behalf of the community - trying to help the community and make it better and more efficient (something you are blatantly refusing to do).
And the steam link has already been posted by nukkels anyway (thanks mate!), so there is no steam link for me to look up. Hence why I have the time to waste arguing with you!
I think this is my right and freedom to do so as much as it is yours to look up more info if you so choose.
Yes, for sure.
Just like it's Nukkels' right to actually help the community by posting the steam link.
And just like it is my right to respond to you when you want to act like an unhelpful person about it.
By the way, I do disagree about people being lazy. Some people here ARE lazy - they are even too lazy to read a post thoroughly and then ask questions that could have been avoided had they read properly. And this happens even if the poster provides a TLDR.
Yep, sure. But it's not those people I'm suggesting you help…
And some people are just not intelligent enough to understand when they are being an unhelpful person.
Read through some previous post where it was done and people still asked stupid questions and made comments showing they did not make any effort to even read the post (and then get snappy to top it all!)
Again, you are completely missing the point, and providing examples of confusion that are caused by the WAY the link has been provided.
Please provide an example where the steam link has been provided IN THE DETAILS and CLEARLY IDENTIFIED like my example of how it should be done.
Otherwise your example is entirely IRRELEVANT to my point.
If you manage to stop these comments and this attitude from people, then I am happy to reconsider. It is time OPs are appreciated instead of being given grief, BS, and endless arguing about tiny little things by some people.
Again, you are being specious.
Just post the link like I suggested and you would not get those comments!!!
The reason you are being given grief is because of your own terrible attitude and self-righteousness. If you weren't so defiant about steam links, you would get much more support! But instead, all you do is complain about people being lazy and not wanting to spoon-feed them!
Maybe if you were less self-righteous and more helpful to your fellow ozbargainer, people would be more likely to jump in an support you.
Put your money where your mouth is: next time you post a deal, add in this information to the detail, and we'll see what happens. I DARE you.
Get your free key from Indiegala here:
[Indiegala link]For more information on the game, and to check if you already have it, see here:
[steam link]
I bet you that the sky won't fall in!!!
Sorry, but that kind of layman's psychology does not work.
How old are you saying "I dare you"? And yes, I understand you learned the word "specious" today and needed to apply it several times.
Go through all the deals I posted. In several I posted very clear instructions, in some I posted the Steam link as you suggested and made it ABUNDANTLY clear and yet there are still people who are not satisfied.
There is no way to ever satisfy everyone and that is fine. If you are one of those people who is not happy with the way my deals are posted so be it. I can live with it. And if you want to spend your energy on this pointless argument (pointless because you have become more and more aggressive and insulting resulting in lower and lower chance of convincing me of your view point and actually ensuring entrenchment) rather than using the energy to find some great deals you can post (as that would REALLY benefit the whole community), then that is your prerogative, too.
Try this one:
https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/322263
Budju again
Link to deal posted. Tick.
First comment posts Steam link. Tick
And yet, Budju is trying to give me absolute ridiculous BS accusing me of posting a link to a different game when it is quite clear he or she was late to the party and everyone else got the deal. Once I clarified this Budju does not back off but keeps going.
Do you really want to tell me that posting the link in the deal description would stop this behaviour? Do you really want to tell me that it makes a difference whether such link is posted in description or in the first comment on the deal?
That is BS. If you really want to waste your time look through the hundreds of deals and you will find that regularly things like this happen, no matter what is done. Of course, maybe those people are just d…. but then on the other hand judging by the frequency it happens in deals on OZB I do not think it can just be brushed aside.
I mean, read your own posts back. Your aggression level increases continuously to the point where you become outright insulting and offensive and must be reported. Do you really want to tell me that this behaviour is great to create a friendly atmosphere in OZB, simply because you cannot accept another person's view point? Bullying me will not change my position - it will only get you in trouble and weaken your arguments.
Have a great night my friend.
Go through all the deals I posted. In several I posted very clear instructions, in some I posted the Steam link as you suggested and made it ABUNDANTLY clear and yet there are still people who are not satisfied.
And yet, you continue to post irrelevant examples.
Please provide an example where you have:
A) posted the steam link in the details.
B) clearly identified the indiegala link as the free key, and the steam link as for further information (as per my example).
None of your examples have done this.
There is no way to ever satisfy everyone and that is fine.
Of course. But by doing one simple thing, you could make a bunch of people happier. You choose not to do that (which is fine, that is your perogative), but then you also complain when others choose to do it to help out their fellow ozbargainers.
And then you get upset when people get confused - whereas, if you had posted the steam link yourself in the deal, in the manner I have suggested, then there would be no confusion.
Please address THAT point with an example, if you are going to respond again.
If you are one of those people who is not happy with the way my deals are posted so be it.
How you choose to post your deals is entirely your choice. As I said, you are free to post your deals however you want.
How you bag other users like Nukkels, who is just trying to help out other users, is what I take issue with.
If you don't want to post steam link, then don't. But don't moan about other people posting them!!!
And if you want to spend your energy on this pointless argument (pointless because you have become more and more aggressive and insulting resulting in lower and lower chance of convincing me of your view point and actually ensuring entrenchment) rather than using the energy to find some great deals you can post (as that would REALLY benefit the whole community), then that is your prerogative, too.
I am happy to spend my time and energy calling out people who I think are not being helpful, yes. That is my contribution: trying to help other ozbargainers in whatever way I think I can.
Unfortunately finding bargains is not my forte, but I help out by providing information wherever I can, and trying to help other users (like I have above). I find that more productive than calling people lazy, and complaining about spoonfeeding people.
Try this one:
Steam link posted in the deal detail? No.
Steam link identified clearly as for information only (distinct from the deal link)? No.
Again, you are entirely missing the point: posting the steam link as I have suggested, clearly identifying in the deal detail what the purpose of the link is for, would reduce confusion.
And yet, Budju is trying to give me absolute ridiculous BS accusing me of posting a link to a different game when it is quite clear he or she was late to the party and everyone else got the deal. Once I clarified this Budju does not back off but keeps going.
Well, Budju is a naughty naughty boy! Great. But that is entirely irrelevant to the posting of the steam link (in a clearly identified way) to help other users get further information and check whether they already have the game.
You are talking about someone who has missed the deal, and can't find it…that has nothing to do with providing the steam link (in a clear way) for those that want it.
Do you not understand how Badju, and the examples you provide, have nothing to do with what I am saying?
Do you really want to tell me that posting the link in the deal description would stop this behaviour?
If it has been posted CLEARLY like the way I have suggested, then yes it will help minimise this kind of behaviour. (It won't eliminate silly people who can't read, but it definitely will not make it any worse than it is!)
Emphasis on the link being CLEARLY IDENTIFIED (which none of the examples you have provided are).
Do you really want to tell me that it makes a difference whether such link is posted in description or in the first comment on the deal?
What I am suggesting is that if the link is CLEARLY IDENTIFIED (like how I suggested), then yes, it WILL make a difference.
And what I am suggesting is that if you post it in the deal yourself, you have control over HOW it is posted.
What I am suggesting is if you posted it in the manner that I have suggested, then it will make a difference. As I keep suggesting, try it and see for yourself!
Again, emphasis on HOW the link is posted.
If you really want to waste your time look through the hundreds of deals and you will find that regularly things like this happen, no matter what is done. Of course, maybe those people are just d…. but then on the other hand judging by the frequency it happens in deals on OZB I do not think it can just be brushed aside.
Sure. But that is not a reason to treat everyone with contempt, and refuse to help out the GOOD ozbargain members who would benefit from the steam link!
If you post it in the right way you can help lots of users, while also minimising (but sure, not eliminating) the problems you are experiencing.
Or you can just keep complaining about it… that's entirely up to you, of course!
But I would suggest that doing things in a better way, and posting the steam link in the way I have suggested, would do no harm, and would only do good by helping users and actually reducing the amount of grief you receive - I honestly believe it would be in your own interest!
Again, I suggest you try it an see. Why won't you give it a try?
I mean, read your own posts back. Your aggression level increases continuously to the point where you become outright insulting and offensive and must be reported.
Well, if I am aggressive, it is because I find your attitude to your fellow ozbargainers extremely frustrating, and I find your arguments to be nonsensical (I would say specious, but you won't let me use that word!) and failing to address the actual points I am making (instead, providing examples of a completely different issue).
Do you really want to tell me that this behaviour is great to create a friendly atmosphere in OZB, simply because you cannot accept another person's view point? Bullying me will not change my position - it will only get you in trouble and weaken your arguments.
I find your attitude to others disrespectful, so I apologise if I deem it suitable to show you a similar level of disregard.
If you are going to post BS arguments, then I will call you out on them. Sorry.
Have a great night my friend.
And to you.
As a final note for you:
"I am happy to spend my time and energy calling out people who I think are not being helpful, yes. That is my contribution: trying to help other ozbargainers in whatever way I think I can."
You have not done that at all, quite the contrary. Your aggressive behaviour towards me has achieved one thing, namely that as a result of this behaviour I will not provide any such links as if I did as a result of your behaviour I would reward aggression and bullying and unfortunately I cannot have that as that would be a very poor role model for the children.
By the way, if you had actually bothered to look at the links you would have noticed that on occasion, namely when I have the time, I did provide links. Did you ever think about the fact that this might be one of the main factors, namely, that I value my time over that of other people who I do not know? Also, posting anything with my cheapie $19 phone is a huge effort and providing an extra link is very tedious so I am not going through that. Did this ever occur to you?
And I will still not change. If I expend efforts, time, and energy to find a deal I believe I have done enough. If other people want to provide extra info that is fine.
I did not bag Nukkels at all - I just explained why I do not provide links and that was all. He or she was fine with that and that is where it was left until you intervened.
And really, I think Nukkels would be more than capable to defend himself/herself if that was necessary - your help is really not needed.
What you do not understand is this: posting the extra link DID confuse Tehcookiemonsta as evidenced above. Will you dispute that if that link had not existed TCM would have had no choice but to click on "Go to deal" and hence would have been forced to click the correct link straightaway. Will you really dispute this in all seriousness? But for the link provided by Nukkels TCM would have been forced to click the right link - direct causation my friend.
But of course, TCM also did not read properly. The title says Indiegala, not Steam and the link provided by Nukkels is clearly a Steam link. So that would be a contributing factor.
And just to give you a heads up - any future deals will NOT have Steam links and this will only change once the "complaining" stops.
P.S.: Maybe use your energy to intervene in cases like the ones I mentioned where one or more users troll and really greatly decrease the OP's motivation to post again - see the deals I already mentioned as that behaviour does in fact stop a lot of people from posting (there have been several discussions on that on this site before) - I could have probably posted 3 times as many deals as I have but did not do so due to the various issues.
Again, you fail to address my point, and provide another irrelevant example.
Sorry but your reading comprehension is beneath having an argument with.
Goodbye.
And there you go, thanks for admitting the truth:
I value my time over that of other people who I do not know
Everybody does that. If you say differently you obviously lie.
I put my time and that of my family above the time spent for strangers - what is wrong with that?
You make out like you are some kind of saint yet you are not willing to spend any time on finding deals for us. Do that and you are a lot more credible. Just making smart-..s comments about how deals should be posted without ever posting any deals yourself does not give you any credibility I am afraid. I mean two posts in 7 years has nothing to do with it not being your forte - I would use another word starting with l to describe it.
But you know, not posting is ok as long as you don't make stupid, pointless comments.
And to note, you are the only one having an issue with the link not being provided in the description. TCM was confused with two links and everyone else was fine. Tell you anything?
ok I am new to all this steam stuff…I cannot find the game in the shop..has it expired?
No, click the link (go to deal), scroll down a bit and then follow the instructions of the website.
cant get it, says i need to be a higher level.
not had this issue in the past with IG give aways
Steam link: http://store.steampowered.com/app/628760/The_Adventurer__Epi…