Anyone Here Got a Reservation for a Tesla Model 3?

teasatotalling on 26/06/2017 - 10:42
Last edited 09/07/2017 - 11:02 by 1 other user

First production unit has been completed
https://mobile.twitter.com/elonmusk/status/88384089325345178…

Full reveal will now occur on a July 28th party when first customers take delivery.
Australia won't start getting it until at least mid-2018, probably late 2018, as Musk stated it will be the case for right hand drive countries.

Based on the price of the Model S, I reckon the driveway price will be $55 - $57K, so it is competing with Audi A4 & BMW 3

Of course have to factor in approx. $12K savings in fuel & servicing over 5 years (based on 20K km/year)

Then, if Tesla do get their autonomous ride sharing network truly up & running, then cost is irrelevant as the revenue will pay it off in 12 months.

Automotive

Comments

  • KitchenSink on 26/06/2017 - 11:03
    +3

    Last I read the pre-order count was well over 400000…if you preorder now you'll be waiting until 2021 or something like that. Also, its a shame but they will be charging people like fuel at the pump if you want to use the SuperCharger Network.

    Regardless, I'm excited to see the announcement.

    • teasatotalling on 26/06/2017 - 11:22
      +7

      They are ramping up to 500,000 cars per year, so backlog will be cleared by end of 2018.

      • KitchenSink on 26/06/2017 - 14:31
        +10

        Here's hoping but lets be honest with their history of delays etc that's pushing it. But hats off if they can.

        No doubt pre-orders will increase after the full announcement as there's people on the fence about it still.

      • machej on 28/06/2017 - 20:22
        +2

        They won't reach 500,000 cars production by 2018. On the flipside many people who preordered will pull their order when they see the final price so the pre-order number will decrease.

        • drfuzzy on 28/06/2017 - 23:29

          I'm not sure why you were negged.

        • machej on 28/06/2017 - 23:50
          +4

          @maraco: Hardcore Tesla fans. I'm not hating but historically they haven't managed to meet all their targets and 500k seems aspirational to me.

        • whooah1979 on 29/06/2017 - 06:24

          @machej:

          I'm not hating but historically they haven't managed to meet all their targets and 500k seems aspirational to me.

          500k orders for quick cash.
          https://www.tesla.com/en_AU/support/model-3-reservation-depo…

        • machej on 29/06/2017 - 21:42

          @whooah1979: The cheapest non-backed loan. That sort of behavior should be honoured by Ozbargain.

        • teasatotalling on 04/07/2017 - 09:42

          First one off the production line this Friday.
          1,000/week by September. 5,000/week by December
          The goal is 10,000/week. Question is how soon after December.

      • Hellman109 on 29/06/2017 - 12:59
        +1

        Number of times Tesla have met their production goals: 0

        • teasatotalling on 29/06/2017 - 13:37
          +2

          Number of times any car company in history has come remotely close to 400K preorders: 0

        • Hellman109 on 30/06/2017 - 12:17
          +1

          They promise production numbers, thats unaffected by 0 preorders or 400,000,000. They didnt meet their production numbers on any previous models.

          If anything, 400k preorders allows them to build more factories and such to increase production as the demand is there.

          Saying that though, you can get a refund on your pre-order deposit at anytime. Some people wont complete the purchase, but I have no idea what percentage that will be.

      • vroomkroom on 30/06/2017 - 11:34
        -2

        No reservation on Model 3 !!

        I think Musk will solve the automobile emission problem and sell Tesla to traditional car companies and then move on to solve the biggest white elephant " Population " on the planet by another bold disruptive idea.

        Anyone else here believe in Musk ?

    • stumo on 29/06/2017 - 18:20
      +5

      With the way Electricity prices are going, buy the time you get the car it will be cheaper to run a big V8 instead.

      • teasatotalling on 30/06/2017 - 11:36

        Blame the bible believing Luddite, Tony Abbott

  • captobvious on 26/06/2017 - 11:04
    +16

    I have 10 reservations musk is going to hand deliver. :)

  • hell0 on 26/06/2017 - 12:35

    No. I am not looking at purchasing any car though.

      • Kangal on 09/07/2017 - 21:07

        Elon's tweeted photo's of Unit 01.
        He said the first car is finished, going through final checks, and the first owner (Ira) has gifted Unit #1 to Elon.
        As per Musk, the first 30 cars should be shipped on Friday 28 July.
        The next ~100 in the following month of August.
        And another 1,000-2,000 in September.

        So we should see full in-depth reviews from multiple reputable sources probably in (late) August.

        I would buy a Tesla if I had a million dollaroos.
        But I'd first move out of my cardboard box and into a house, get lots of solar panels, a large power wall/eneloops, and a Performance Rig to mine some cryptocurrency. Go all-in with Smart/Electrical Technology.

  • altomic on 26/06/2017 - 12:42

    hhhmmmm, 2 major car australian manufacturers just closed, or are closing down, which producing petrol cars. with an existing "car industry" experienced work force (and secondary manufacturers to compliment) then with a the infrastructure already in existance then how how would it be to switch to building electric cars (which people seem to want).

    I'd buy an Australian made electric ford capri.

    • tonyjzx on 26/06/2017 - 12:54
      +13

      the problem is ford holden are traditional large car companies and no one wants that shit

      there's a reason why only tesla is in the electric game… other established companies dont see the profit in it yet

      i'm guessing australia doesnt have the skill anywhere to make an electric car even half as impressive as the tesla but to be truthful, japan and german dont either

      • railspider on 26/06/2017 - 13:02
        +10

        Ford sell electric cars
        Chevy Bolt is a popular budget EV, from same parent company as Holden
        Hyundai do an EV and plan to expand their range
        TOYOTA admit they were slow to market, but will release a full range of EVs

        Tesla are not that unique - they're a triumph of branding, but they're certainly not the only name in the electric vehicle game.

        • tonyjzx on 26/06/2017 - 13:10
          +18

          i agree but show me the ford or gm or german car that does 265 miles, auto drive, supercharger and has the interior electronics like a tesla

          how did tesla do it and the billion dollar companies cant?

          tesla are unique… you say they arent

          that BOlt and japanese stuff isnt at tesla's level

        • teasatotalling on 26/06/2017 - 14:05
          +2

          Its worth noting that the Chevy Bolt is sold at loss without the US federal $7500 subsidy

          Tesla are unique in that they own the entire transportation process - car, fuel, delivery infrastructure, dealership - BMW Toyota & Mercedes are literally years behind.

          FYI, Tesla is now worth more than BMW, GM & Ford (market valuation)

        • tonyjzx on 26/06/2017 - 15:19
          +5

          @yoyomablue:

          its also worth noting that tesla have not made a profit… in fact their market cap means that each car is worth $800k us as a portion of their cap! a car that has $100k changeover

          obviously tesla is not a traditional B&M company like the others

          its a new paradigm as they say

        • whooah1979 on 26/06/2017 - 17:41
          +6

          @tonyjzx:

          in fact their market cap means that each car is worth $800k us as a portion of their cap! a car that has $100k changeover

          it sound like a ponzi.

        • teasatotalling on 27/06/2017 - 10:33
          +3

          @tonyjzx: value is value. If immediate profit was required as a measure, then very few would start businesses.

          I made a prediction over a year ago, that Tesla would be the most valuable car company in the world by 2025. Looks like I will have to bring my prediction forward, thanks to VW shooting itself in the foot with dieselgate. It also helps that Toyota bet on hydrogen. I can't get enough of how stupid so many business executives are - It gives me a sense of schadenfreude.

        • Kangal on 27/06/2017 - 19:45
          +1

          @yoyomablue:
          Don't count out Hyundai. I believe they're pretty "up-there" when it comes to delivering products that consumer's want from the concept boards. GM never had a shot, they're like a big kitchen with many bad chefs all trying to cook a single dish… no Mastery and no proper vision.

          And because of the fumbles of Volkswagen and Toyota, Hyundai are probably the next company to mass-deliver an electric car the public wants and can afford. Probably something like a next-model Midsized Hatch/i30 that might have a 60kWh battery, a 300km range, and a 150kW (0-100 in 6s)-ish performance.

        • urahara on 28/06/2017 - 00:53

          And how many of them dont have range anxiety . Tesla open up all the patents except battery cell arrangement.
          These cars are not just behind, Tesla is way out of their league.And with 1st in self driving capabilities (they have better network of cars to train their AI) these cars are doomed to fail (except Chevy which can possibly compete).
          My prediction is you'll see these companies companies getting together on AI very soon.

        • imurgod on 28/06/2017 - 23:36
          +1

          @urahara: you'll be surprised who is very advanced in this tech. Mercedes Benz are already playing in this area but in buses.

        • Jackson on 30/06/2017 - 09:03

          @tonyjzx:taking your marketing points one by one:

          265 Miles: when paying $120k per car that's easy, just build a bigger battery

          Auto drive: this is really a gimmick, auto drive but you can't safely take your hands off the wheel or eyes off the road, and if you do you could end up dead. Real practical autonomous driving is still years away

          Superchargers: ChADeMo, which is thr open Japanese standard for DC fast charging, is just as fast or at least so close it doesn't matter to anything Tesla is doing. If you are talking about them building the infrastructure rather than the charging standard then yes they are taking the initiative which is a good thing

          Interior electronics: this actually isn't as hard as anyone might think, yes it's got great advantages, but practically any car company could catch up with this very quickly, and it could actually end up being cheaper to have a single touch screen than all the controls of a typical car.

          I agree they are unique, and are trying to change the market. Other companies don't see a profit in it, or they are protecting their patch. Like Nokia did not moving to Android.

      • OzzyOzbourne on 28/06/2017 - 08:49

        Yeah but we can dig coal out of the ground for the powet stations! Our contribution to the future.

      • Jackson on 30/06/2017 - 08:51
        +2

        You are forgetting that the biggest selling electric car in the world is a Nissan, and speak to any Leaf owner and you can't take the car off them. All Tesla have really done is build a bigger car with a bigger battery and bigger motor for a bigger price tag. Hardly twice as impressive as a Leaf

  • [Deactivated] on 26/06/2017 - 13:21
    +1

    Got two reservations.

    • teasatotalling on 26/06/2017 - 14:06
      +1

      What are you replacing?

      • 0p on 29/06/2017 - 00:43
        +5

        My pet donkey; Jack.

  • ninja33 on 26/06/2017 - 14:19

    Yep got a reservation - only made it 2 weeks ago so will be waiting a while. Currently drive an Audi A4 that will be replaced. May also think about putting down $ for the model Y when possible.

    • teasatotalling on 26/06/2017 - 14:35

      Was it a new or used Audi?
      I'm interested in the mindset of that market
      Do you have friends in that market?

      • ninja33 on 27/06/2017 - 13:12

        It's a used Audi - 2010 model so not worth that much any more - 14 or 15k at best (bought it 3 years ago for 17k)

        What market are you referring to?

        • teasatotalling on 27/06/2017 - 13:31

          The market of would Audi/BMW/Mercedes buyers be interested in Tesla?
          The Model S has severely shrunk the sales of 5 series, A6 & E series in USA

        • ninja33 on 27/06/2017 - 21:25

          I think there are plenty of 3 / A4 / C buyers that would move to a model 3, however many buyers in that class are conservative, and they'll play a 'wait and see' approach to non-ICE cars, I suspect.

          Can you point me to any statistics that show 5 / A6 / E reductions attributable to the S? I'm not saying they aren't there, just I haven't seen any.

        • FindMeADeal on 28/06/2017 - 09:09
          -1

          @yoyomablue: hey, dont leave Volvo out from that list…:P

        • teasatotalling on 29/06/2017 - 05:01

          @ninja33: I got my series mixed up - sales of 6/7, S & A8 have dropped while Model S has skyrocketed & easily leads the large luxury car segment. It's based on vehicle size

  • whooah1979 on 26/06/2017 - 14:48
    +2

    $12K savings in fuel & servicing over 5 years (based on 20K km/year)

    How does it cost to charge a full tank?

    • tonyjzx on 26/06/2017 - 15:20

      pennies

      but IMO tesla cars work best in places w/ nuclear or solar wind etc but if you can afford a $100k car then you can also afford a powerwall and the solar cells on your roof to 'maximise your investment'

      • whooah1979 on 26/06/2017 - 17:39
        +2

        pennies

        cents? i don't understand. where does one charge a tesla in australia? 240v from the wall?

        • affable on 27/06/2017 - 08:00
          +14

          I have 2 EV (a $14k iMiEV which does 100km on a charge, plenty for around town as a 2nd car) and a Outlander PHEV $40k new (50km electric then has a petrol motor so you can drive it any distance).
          The iMiEV costs about $1.20 in electricity for 100km, so equivalent of a 1 litre per 100km petrol car.
          The PHEV costs about $0.80 for 50km, so about $1.80 per 100km.

          Both charge overnight from a normal powerpoint in the garage. We never need to charge while out & about during the day.

          A Tesla will charge from a normal powerpoint, however you will only get about 15km range each hour. If you need more than that, you can install a high speed charger.

          I'm saving about $2500 a year on the iMiEV so its a free car in a couple of years (I've owned it for nearly 3 years now so savings are about $7k already).

        • Member 0230 on 27/06/2017 - 09:27

          @affable: Thanks for sharing — that's really useful information on savings using an EV. The Outlander is definitely the more practical car for the masses between your two. Regardless, your iMiEV represents outstanding economics long term. $14K though — that's a great price if you bought it three years ago!

        • affable on 27/06/2017 - 10:48
          +2

          @Member 0230:
          Yes I do consider it a bargain, there were 20 ex-test iMiEV dumped on the market back then. I have a friend in Sydney who bought an iMiEV a couple of months ago for $9k so there are still occasional bargains out there.
          If you can put up with how ugly the iMiEV is, its actually a very zippy and practical car to park in shopping centres due to being so narrow. And rear wheel drive means the turning circle is AMAZING. My daughter has learned to drive in it, and a while back had her first drive in an ICE car, with a driving instructor. Her comment was that it just made a noise and didn't go when you put your foot down, lol.
          The problem with EV is that once you've owned one, ICE cars seem so prehistoric … run by dinosaur juice. As Clarkson said on Top Gear when reviewing the BMW i8 vs M3, the M3 is the typewriter and the i8 a laptop.

        • teasatotalling on 27/06/2017 - 10:50
          +1

          @Member 0230: I own a Nissan Leaf and within 2 years the amount owing was already less than market value (it was a dealer display). So if I sold now I would make a fair bit. But it will be paid off end of next year.

        • whooah1979 on 27/06/2017 - 17:37

          @affable:

          thanks for replying.

          it looks like these vehicles are serving you well. they certainly have a pro when it comes to fuel economy.

          they won't work for us. their range is to restricted, and their reliability is unknown.

        • whooah1979 on 27/06/2017 - 17:39

          @affable:

          The iMiEV costs about $1.20 in electricity for 100km, so equivalent of a 1 litre per 100km petrol car.
          The PHEV costs about $0.80 for 50km, so about $1.80 per 100km.

          we just filled our tank with 98. we got >930km out of 152l.

        • TheBean on 27/06/2017 - 19:08
          +1

          @affable: Hi, just wondering how much are the servicing costs, are they the same as a normal petrol car?
          Would the batteries need to be replaced every few year and end up costing a bomb?

        • affable on 28/06/2017 - 10:00
          +2

          @TheBean:

          For the iMiEV, we only got 1 dealer service at the 5 year mark and it was a complete waste of money. The first item needing replacement is the brake fluid at 80Kkm so now that the iMiEV is not under warranty we just get a more thorough inspection when we get a pinkslip each year, at an added cost of about $90. Friction brakes last forever as it uses regen, and no oil changes, spark plugs, muffler etc so nothing to service. The iMiEV has obscure tyres which are different front to back, so replacement of the 4 tyres is about $550 which is steep for a small car. Apart from that, its brilliant.
          Our PHEV is part of fixed price servicing and ranges from $360 to $470 each 12mth/15K km which is less than the Diesel Outlander and only $100 more than the Petrol variant.

          The battery in our iMiEV is now 6 years old and is still at 72% of its original capacity. Some of the capacity is hidden so we still get 100km range. Failures to date that I have heard of have only been to a particular cell (it has 88 cells) so the replacement cost is only around $400 + labour if you can get hold of a cell. A new battery is about $6k, however the expected lifespan is >10 years and after that it is still useful for other purposes so has a 2nd hand value.

          You can see how the capacity of our PHEV is fairing from this graph - http://www.evpositive.com/battery-history.html
          With the PHEV, the battery will likely last the lifetime of the vehicle as even at 50% or less it will still be very useful.

      • OzzyOzbourne on 28/06/2017 - 08:52
        +2

        I went for nuclear power, as the solar is no good at night when I need to charge the Tesla.

  • reecho on 26/06/2017 - 16:05
    +1

    I do….on the day it was revealed…

  • goegge on 27/06/2017 - 08:44
    -5

    Tesla Car Batteries Not Remotely Green, Study Finds
    The car batteries used in a Tesla generate as much CO2 as driving a petrol-powered car for eight years. And that’s before they even come off the production line acording a report by the Swedish Transport Administration and the Swedish Energy Agency.

    • teasatotalling on 27/06/2017 - 10:25
      +2

      How much CO2 is generated in oil exploration, extraction, refinement & transport for availability to use?

      • tonyjzx on 27/06/2017 - 14:28
        -3

        also…. location matters

        they make the car in california? you deal with the pollution there

        the difference is that when its driven in australia, they dont get 8 yrs of pollution HERE

        you may say thats selfish… we are here, i care about the air pollution HERE where you and I live

        ALso people dont look into how much C02 is expended in creating your petrol car. Its horrendous.

        Why do you hold Tesla up to such scrutiny when you dont level the same scrutiny to petrol cars, you know, the other 99%.

        • Cluster on 27/06/2017 - 16:09
          +1

          "the difference is that when its driven in australia, they dont get 8 yrs of pollution HERE"

          For things like NOx and particulate production, location matters. Producing them far away from population centers is beneficial if they have to be produced anywhere at all.

          For CO2 however it doesn't matter where its produced. It all adds to the CO2 load in the atmosphere.

        • tonyjzx on 27/06/2017 - 16:12
          +1

          I agree but the west has been 'exporting CO2' for decades now.

          All those made in china things is polluting a foreign place because everyone wants their cheap stuff.

          And now because Tesla does it, its a problem that only Tesla has?

    • KitchenSink on 27/06/2017 - 15:02

      Probably at this stage yes…but look at the near future with the Gigafactory - more are coming too

      The Gigafactory will be powered by renewable energy sources, with the goal of achieving net zero energy. At full capacity, the Gigafactory will produce annual battery production capacity of 35 gigawatt-hours (GWh).

      • tonyjzx on 27/06/2017 - 15:27

        at least tesla is actively looking to reduce their footprint

        no one else is

        is VAG? Toyota? GM? Ford? no.

    • Cluster on 27/06/2017 - 16:05

      Did the Swedish study include building the battery factory in their statistics?

      Let's say a person drives 20k km per year, burning 7L/100km. Pretty efficient. 1400L petrol burned in a year. 2.31kg of CO2 produced per litre of petrol. 3200kg of CO2 per year.

      The study is suggesting 25,800kg of CO2 is produced for every battery pack?

      • tonyjzx on 27/06/2017 - 16:41

        that probably would not surprise me

        isnt tesla using thousands of 18650s or whatever is now the replacement

        that cant have a zero effect on the environment

        you ARE digging big bloody holes in the 3rd world somewhere

        • Cluster on 27/06/2017 - 16:55
          +12

          Lithium is collected from salt plains in Bolivia rather than from a bloody big hole. Cobalt is mined and often in conflict zones, but if that concerns you then please refrain from using your computer, mobile phone, and modern car. They all contain cobalt.

          Lithium batteries can be recycled at end of life. Can you recycle diesel and petrol after burning it?

          What is the environmental impact of exploring, drilling, shipping, and refining oil? Is fracking a clean process?

          Nobody would deny that producing cars and batteries has an environmental load, but I question why people are so against new technology while turning a blind eye to the current damage being done.

        • teasatotalling on 27/06/2017 - 20:54
          +2

          @Cluster: I look forward to when mining machinery & transport is battery operated, so they entire process is emission free

    • trongy on 27/06/2017 - 23:42
      +2

      I'll just leave this here for anyone who is curious:

      That Tesla Battery Emissions Study Making the Rounds? It's Bunk.

    • teasatotalling on 27/06/2017 - 10:23
      +20

      not as green as many hybrids unless you only charge up at home using solar.

      The Australian….lol. A well known anti-science peddling newspaper for, you guessed it, science denying conservatives. The agenda even stretches to car reviews.
      FYI, Tesla Model S smashes Porsche, BMW, Mercedes, Audi in resale value on equivalent models.
      https://electrek.co/2016/09/13/tesla-model-s-value-retention…

        • teasatotalling on 27/06/2017 - 10:45
          +7

          You bet there's political ideology behind it. I read that review - very simple & superficial with typical cherry picking that science deniers are renowned for.
          As for power, most charging is done at home - people choose where the power comes from, although PowerShop only buys renewables. Tesla have indicated that they will continue rolling out solar plus battery storage at all their own Supercharging stations.

        • tonyjzx on 27/06/2017 - 14:03
          +2

          Mr. Taylor. A few things. I have all the respect in the world for various 'motoring writers' but every one of them is only offering 'their opinion'.

          You do not give us the article itself, so we cannot check either way.

          Eg. If I'm a motoring writer, my allegience would be with the status quo, that is the 60 brands that sell petrol cars.

          Why would I go out on a limb and support Tesla? My livelihood doesnt depend on it.

          Further to this, you state that since our economy runs on gas and coal why would you bother?

          Sir, that is not my fault and nothing I do can change that.

          From my viewpoint, as someone who suffers from respiratory illness, I would say anything that removes a petrol car from our society is a good thing.

          I do not expect magic solutions, that's what people want here, I just want something better than petrol.

          Let me put it to you like this… let me idle my petrol V8 car outside your bedroom window.

          Is that accceptable to you?

          Now let me do that in a Tesla.

          Which is the better solution. I dont think Tesla is perfect. I just think that its a better solution than petrol.

        • trongy on 27/06/2017 - 23:39

          I trust the motoring journalist to correctly evaluate the car's build quality, but not the energy and carbon emissions calculations.

          Unfortunately if they use charging stations, the electricity comes from coal and gas fired power stations, which is an awful outcome.

          The credible studies show that charging an electric car from coal fired power stations produce results in lower pollution emissions than an equivalent sized petrol powered car. Moreover, today's petrol powered car will continue to run on petrol in the years to come. An electric car that's charged from coal power may eventually be charged from solar power in the years to come with modification to the car. The most popular charging station for electric cars is at the owner's home and many Australian consumers already have the choice to purchase "green" electricity.

        • [Deactivated] on 28/06/2017 - 08:49

          @yoyomablue:
          I really don't know how people can deny science. I would like all these folk to try denying gravity and walk off a cliff.

        • jhmtaylor on 28/06/2017 - 11:15
          -4

          @darkzen15: These posts are not about science it is about giving OB's a heads up to check out the quality before buying. The comments the author made about carbon emmissions came from data supplied to him by Tesla.

          Whilst @yoyomablue is obviously passionate about his cause, the tone of his comments is rude and offensive.

        • Beanvee on 28/06/2017 - 12:00
          +1

          @jhmtaylor: I see nothing offensive or rude about his tone. Meanwhile you opened with a very condescending first sentence. Just because someone disagrees with you, doesn't mean they're being rude or offensive, you need thicker skin.

          @darkzen15: To those kind of people it's just a competing explanation to the power of god.

        • watwatwat on 28/06/2017 - 12:23

          "Unfortunately if they use charging stations, the electricity comes from coal and gas fired power stations, which is an awful outcome."

          • and even then it's not as bad as petrol.

          Let's see here. You can start the transition to electricity which can be fuelled by less and less coal over time (more renewable energy). Or alternatively, you keep producing cars that burn a finite resource (thus will eventually be useless technology) that is very bad for the environment.

        • [Deactivated] on 29/06/2017 - 01:53
          +2

          no political agenda

          Oh you sweet summer child

  • Hirolol on 27/06/2017 - 14:08
    +1

    If anyone lives in Victoria or visits, you can actually charge your tesla for free at Chadstone.
    Even though its the slower speed charging it's handy if you want to go for some shopping, then dinner and a film.

    • [Deactivated] on 28/06/2017 - 10:03

      All the non-superchargers are free aren't they? There are hundreds of them.

    • [Deactivated] on 28/06/2017 - 20:04

      Or you could just top up in 20mins at the Richmond Supercharger.

      • Hirolol on 30/06/2017 - 09:04
        -1

        Supercharger credits are not free once you have used the free credit.
        I'm talking about a free charge.

        • [Deactivated] on 30/06/2017 - 21:51

          Superchargers are free to all current Teslas. They got rid of credits.

        • Hirolol on 01/07/2017 - 01:30

          @Burnertoasty:
          But I just got that info from the tesla website!!
          Are they too slow to update it?
          I actually know very little about the tesla vehicle and program but I find it very fascinating!

        • [Deactivated] on 01/07/2017 - 10:26

          @Hirolol: I don't know where you found that information. The Tesla website says free Supercharging for life. At the start of the year they limited Supercharging to 400kw, they then reversed that decision and made supercharging unlimited for all cars (and future car purchases for early adopters).

  • kusama on 27/06/2017 - 15:48

    I have a reservation. Haven't fully committed to spending that much yet - depends on what the base model is like, Aud/Usd, how I feel closer to the date.
    Currently drive a 9 yr old i30.

    • [Deactivated] on 28/06/2017 - 10:05
      +1

      If you got an early reservation you can probably resell it at a slight profit or drive it for 6 months and not lose much money.

  • zond on 27/06/2017 - 16:28
    -4

    Just bought 10 using ebay coupon code CRACK20. 20% savings!!

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  • [Deactivated] on 27/06/2017 - 17:11

    That's sort of good for Australians as well.

    Early problems will most likely get fixed until the Teslas hit our market.
    Updates will already be rolled out and we will get updated software version.

    Look at the bright side.

  • djmm on 27/06/2017 - 17:17
    +1

    With 60k u can get very nice sedan. We'll see how model 3 looks like.

    • gimli on 27/06/2017 - 23:20
      -6

      Ok

  • srcc1 on 27/06/2017 - 17:18
    +5

    I was debating whether to make a reservation or simply wait until the first used cars come to the market. At the same time we should expect Volkswagen to introduce their EV range around 2019 to Australia. Still a long wait but eventually more and more manufacturers will start selling EV cars over here that have the same range as the Teslas.

    Unfortunately the government doesn't seem to have a lot of focus on things that support the environment so manufacturers will obviously have a hard time selling these cars. The fact that there is still no government incentive in buying an EV car is simply mind blowing…

    • teasatotalling on 29/06/2017 - 05:12

      Yeah our country is pretty pathetic when it comes to electric vehicle adoption.
      Only can hope Labor does something come 2019.
      There is lobbying going on for incentives, but I doubt anything will happen while Abbott is given such a big platform by conservative media.

      • qazwsx on 30/06/2017 - 03:40
        +2

        What you call EV subsidies, others call middle class welfare - these are govt subsidies that are for products that from a price perspective are aimed at a middle to upper class income bracket. Everyone wants a subsidy until they can't get it anymore.

        • teasatotalling on 30/06/2017 - 09:40
          -1

          Disagree. Those cars end up going on the used car market, that the less wealthy can afford & everyone benefits from cleaner air which has prematurely killed thousands in Australia.
          As we have seen with solar panels, subsidies provided in emerging industries are progressively reduced & removed as market prices are driven down.

  • Geryatric on 27/06/2017 - 18:40
    +2

    Friend got a Model S, and cost them almost $20K to get a charging point installed at his unit complex.

    • trongy on 27/06/2017 - 23:48
      +1

      That is a serious downside for unit owners and one reason why I'm not considering an electric car in the near future.

      The cost per unit would probably be lower if the whole complex was done at once, but electric cars will have to get mighty popular before owners corporations start doing those conversions.

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