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Dell XPS Desktop i7-7700, GTX1070, 16GB RAM, 256GB M.2 SSD + 2TB HDD $1749 @ Dell

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Hi Team, pretty good price for the hardware. With the current GPU mining craze you'd be hard pressed to match these specs with a self build. Enjoy!

+4% cashback at cash rewards bringing this to $1679.04 - thanks Roguewolf

7th Generation Intel® Core™ i7-7700 Processor (8M Cache, up to 4.2 GHz)
Windows 10 Home 64bit English
16GB Dual Channel DDR4 2400MHz (8GBx2)
256GB M.2 Solid State Drive + 2TB 7200 rpm Hard Drive
NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 1070 with 8GB GDDR5 Graphics Memory
Tray load DVD Drive (Reads and Writes to DVD/CD)
1Yr Premium Support:Onsite Service Choose Options
Height: 15.22” (386.5mm) x Width: 7.09” (180mm) x Depth 14.02” (356mm)
Weight: 22lbs (10Kg)
Integrated 5.1 Channel Audio with Waves MaxxAudio®
802.11ac + Bluetooth 4.2
Dell KM636 Wireless Keyboard & Mouse Black, English
Gigabit Ethernet
460W (PSU efficiency varies by regional regulatory requirements)

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    • +19

      Err, the cost of the parts, assembly, delivery and profit perhaps.

      • -6

        Still not worth it really.

        Can build yourself a similar specced pc and have the benefits of knowing your components. Not to mention most parts come with 3 years warranty instead of the 1 year from dell

        • +3

          nah, a similarly specced self built pc with those parts will cost around the same. And you get it built for you with Dell warranty. P.S: I always prefer to build a desktop by myself either way.

        • +8

          Mate i think you've had too many choc chip cookies

        • +5

          never go full retard

        • @Kapinny: Hey does anyone know how to receive the 4% cashback from cash rewards there is no code?

      • +2

        Yes of course but you won't have Dell warranty and you have to chase warranty from individual h/w vendors if there's issues, also you may able to save at least $200. But for people like with no spare time then this is good deal.

  • -3

    Not that great of a price cause build with Better PSU and Case for $150 more.

    • +2

      That's not the Ozbargain spirit.

      • +1

        Ok going complete cheapo i changed PSU Motherboard and now the price is $1605 + another $26 for windows from Kinguin

        this is using ebay 20% sale and Mwave prices.
        still a better PSU just not as expensive as my first choice and any case is better than Dell case lol.
        http://imgur.com/a/HtrGZ

        • +5

          https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/B3thwV

          A build I quickly threw together as cheap as I could for comparison, comes out to $1821 (Could definitely get windows cheaper as mentioned). Makes this seem like a decent deal, but we don't know what parts Dell has put in there.

        • +9

          Yes and we know how $26 Windows is comparable to what the Dell has.

          Dell cases are great, solid, quiet and easy to work on and now that GPU's use little power there is no reason to have a fancy case for cooling.

          The fact is this XPS is a fantastic deal if the hardware is what you want.

        • +1

          @SamR: That's not a fact it's an opinion and it's an incorrect one.

        • +1 for Ozbargain spirit

        • @Ferros: you wasted $55 on a cooler
          and another $70 on an ATX Motherboard when a MATX for $79 would do.
          have a look at my imgur url link i screen shotted what i put together.

        • @SamR: what about dell's provided windows makes it better for a normal consumer end than the cheapest windows key you can get?

          Is it just me or does anyone else find it hard to believe that a pre-built with possible proprietary form factors and non-ordinary layouts, is easy to build in relative to literally any other case? What makes you assume that extra cooling would not be useful? The 1070 overclocks fairly well (this reference version probably less so) and is a good way to increase value. If you could get better cooling, expandibility and aesthetics for the price, why wouldn't you?

          There are legit reasons why this is a good deal which include the warranty, ease of purchasing, or the extras (wifi, peripherals). Just not what you've seem to come up with.

        • The board you picked doesn't have an m2 slot does it?

        • +2

          @cathole: Because the cheap windows keys are not entirely legit and could stop working (usually MSDN keys).
          Speaking from personal experience with keys advertised here on ozb in the past.

        • +3

          @Diji1: If it's an opinion then it's not incorrect. It's no more right or wrong than yours.
          I'm a fan of most OEM cases. Quality and toolfree design is far superior to most others. I have a case worth almost $200 (not expensive but not cheap either) and still miss my older Dell and HP stuff.

        • -4

          @wyrmy: I personally use illegitimate (pirated or cheap keys) for all of my non-work devices, so the cost of windows has never really been an issue for me, but I can see this being an issue for some.

        • +27

          @Axelstrife:

          He said for comparison not cheaper

          There few are issues with your build
          * The board that you have picked probably needs a BIOS update to support Kaby Lake CPU's or else it won't POST with the i7-7700.
          * It does not have WiFi support or Bluetooth which will add cost and the Dell has.
          * Does not have Windows which is like an extra $120 or get it somewhere else questionably for much cheaper
          * Does not have Mouse and Keyboard included unlike the Dell which comes with which also costs money.

          This is a near replica of the Dell PC build with Keyboard and Mouse, Operating System and Bluetooth and Wifi that I slapped together on PcPartPicker and also add about $100+ shipping on top of the parts since its not added and it varies by location DELL PcPartPicker Build.

          Type Item Price
          CPU Intel - Core i7-7700 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor $414.00 @ Shopping Express
          Motherboard MSI - B250M PRO-VD Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $98.00 @ Shopping Express
          Memory G.Skill - Ripjaws 4 series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory $159.00 @ Umart
          Storage Intel - 600p Series 256GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $154.00 @ Shopping Express
          Storage Western Digital - Blue 2TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive $93.00 @ Shopping Express
          Video Card GALAX - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB EX OC SNPR White Video Card $575.00 @ PLE Computers
          Case Silverstone - PS08B (Black) MicroATX Mid Tower Case $45.00 @ Umart
          Power Supply XFX - 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply $89.00 @ PCCaseGear
          Optical Drive Asus - DRW-24D5MT DVD/CD Writer $18.00 @ Shopping Express
          Operating System Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit $128.00 @ Shopping Express
          Wireless Network Adapter TP-Link - Archer T2U USB 2.0 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter $34.00 @ Shopping Express
          Keyboard Logitech - K120 Wired Standard Keyboard $12.00 @ Shopping Express
          Mouse Logitech - B100 Wired Optical Mouse $9.00 @ IJK
          Other Bluetooth 4.0 USB Dongle $5.98
          Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
          Total $1833.98
          Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-20 16:01 AEST+1000

          The Bluetooth 4.0 USB Dongle is from eBay and is Australian Stock.

          Tweaked Build on my opinion about this.

          Type Item Price
          CPU Intel - Core i5-6400 2.7GHz Quad-Core Processor $259.00 @ Mwave Australia
          Motherboard ASRock - H110M-HDS Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $72.00 @ Umart
          Memory G.Skill - Ripjaws 4 series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory $159.00 @ Umart
          Storage SanDisk - Ultra II 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $179.00 @ Shopping Express
          Storage Western Digital - Blue 2TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive $93.00 @ Shopping Express
          Video Card GALAX - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB EX OC SNPR White Video Card $575.00 @ PLE Computers
          Case Silverstone - PS08B (Black) MicroATX Mid Tower Case $45.00 @ Umart
          Power Supply XFX - 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply $89.00 @ PCCaseGear
          Optical Drive Asus - DRW-24D5MT DVD/CD Writer $18.00 @ Shopping Express
          Operating System Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit $128.00 @ Shopping Express
          Wireless Network Adapter TP-Link - Archer T2U USB 2.0 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter $34.00 @ Shopping Express
          Keyboard Logitech - K120 Wired Standard Keyboard $12.00 @ Shopping Express
          Mouse Logitech - B100 Wired Optical Mouse $9.00 @ IJK
          Other Bluetooth 4.0 USB Dongle $5.98
          Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
          Total $1677.98
          Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-20 16:39 AEST+1000

          For the Dell PC this is a great purchase for $1749 shipped to your door, take it out of the box, hook it up and it works. While the DIY method will be shooting for $2000 or more, since shipping is dependent on location, not included in the PcPartPicker Price and dealing with the hassles of assembling a computer. Also with the Dell if it doesn't work out of the box you can just deal with 3 things Tower, Keyboard and Mouse.As where DIY method your going to be dealing with 13 things which for the average home end user he doesn't want to deal with.Yes I know you can tweak the parts when doing the DIY method so you can make it cheaper by putting in an i5 instead of an i7 like I have done so. I'm not saying that building your own PC is bad but I'm just aiming for the average home user who just wants to play video games or watch movies in his spare time after coming home from school or work and has no knowledge on fixing computers and doesn't want to. There are Pro's and Cons to everything, nothing is perfect

        • +1

          @mehdont:

          Thanks for that.

          Really, if you stay in a regional area. This is a SUPERB deal.

          I've had a POST failure last month (3+ year old self-built) and I swapped out PSU, MOBO, HDMI cable and removed several of the restart button pins from my MOBO in that order. I am still not sure exactly how much or what was wrong with those parts other than definitely the HDMI cable. Funny thing, when I first encountered the problem, the HDMI cable was working. So yea, I'm not about to swap parts around just to see where the failure was now that I've gotten the whole set up to work.

          Cut the long story short, I found out how much the Cairns-tax was when it came to PC parts.

        • @mehdont:My bad how about this

          http://imgur.com/a/0aFjR
          ^$1711.73 delivered
          https://www.officeworks.com.au/shop/officeworks/p/hp-keyboar…
          ^Mouse & Keyboard if you want a cheapo combo instead of something decent after spending this much.

          Note: 500w PSU is included with the PC case.
          Note: Your 2TB HDD is 5400 RPM which is NOT the same as the dell build.
          Note: windows can still be had cheaper if you wish to risk it.

          I commented when the price was $1749 Cashrewards makes dell's cheaper, no idea if cashrewards works with ebay code deals like this.

          ATM prices are not great for GPU's Plenty of times GTX 1070's have been $500.
          Prices right now are after LOTS of ebay sales and in the middle of a Cryptocurrency boom where all AMD GPU's are sold out leaving only Nvidia GPU's being bought by everyone not mining, See this artical

          Ram prices are high aswell, See this artical

          The average PC user don't PC game and every PC gamer i know knows exactly what's in his rig and built it themselves.

          I still hate the look of the dell case so ugly imo lol.
          Anyway prices right now for GPU's and Ram absolutely sucks.

        • +4

          @Axelstrife:

          Near replica, I did not say the same parts.

          Also you didn't read my entire comment or the OP post its $1679.04 with Cash Rewards or $1749 with no Cash Rewards. Yes I know the WD Blue is 5400RPM. You can get the Toshiba equivalent of 2TB that is 7200RPM which costs about the same.

          • I have talked about getting Windows cheaper and its risky with it.
          • Also no Bluetooth
          • Power supply that comes with majority of computer cases are questionable at best and likely to e and cause damages to a your computer parts or worse a house fire and likely the eBay seller is not going to claim for that. But Dell would likely so if it was their computer that it was the cause of. The power supply that I have chosen re-badges Seasonic Power supplies which are well known online to be of high quality and has a very little to no chance of dying in a climatic way than that PSU that comes with the Thermaltake case.

          And to top it all off, it costs MORE than of the Dell and my PC part lists hence further adding proof that doing the DIY method will cost you $2000 or more. Ebay: $2124.01 + Officeworks $19.88 Keyboard and mouse combo = $2143.89. Please read stuff more thoroughly please.

          Also there are PC gamers out there who have no knowledge on how to build a computer, have their friends built it for them and still have little to no knowledge on them. Have you heard the saying? Two sides of the same Coin. Yeah replace that with two sides of a PC gamer. One side who just plays PC Games and doesn't know how to assemble a PC and there is the other side who also plays PC games and knows how to assemble a computer and maintain it.

        • -4

          @mehdont:The 500w psu in that case is fine i used to use it,certainly wouldn't be any worse then the crap prebuilts have in.

          Bluetooth USB is under $4 on ebay (i forgot to add it after i changed wifi card from one that was double the price with it to the one you found.)

          To top it off you did not account for ebay's $20% code you know the one on ebay's front page.
          wifi card is not from a store included in the ebay 20% deal so take that away and then minus 20% then add the postage and the wifi card price and you will have $1711.73 + $4 for bluetooth

          BTW i did state my original comment was in relation to the original deal which did not state cashrewards

          So to get this Straight this build IS cheaper then the ORIGINAL DEAL with proper windows 10

        • @Axelstrife: I'm a PC gamer and I did NOT build it myself. Takes time to research and other people do builds better than me anyway. I get no pleasure from doing it and would rather pay someone else.

  • +15

    cpu ~$400
    GPU ~ $600
    Motherboard ~$100
    SSD~150
    HDD ~$100
    RAM ~$150

    Thats already $1600. Not too bad considering you get all the other stuff like Windows, case +PSU + KB + Mouse(albiet probably crappy), but most of all dell support/warranty

    • +1

      Comes with a half decent wireless keyboard and mouse set 'Dell KM636' been liking mine thus far

  • Would this PC allow me to use After Effects efficiently and smoothly?

    • I suspect you'd need at least 32GB RAM particularly if you're going to be dealing with 4K footage often.

      • If I upgrade the memory to 32 (it has 4 slots), do you think after effects would work smoothly? I am not a heavy user doing crazy 3d rendering, just doing cool animations.

        • +1

          I think you'll be fine if it's just for hobby use. If you can dedicate a separate drive for use as the Media Cache it'll also run smoother.

        • Are you going to be gaming much? If not, this is overkill. A R5 1600 build with a lower end GPU would be a much better build for your needs (admittedly I don't know all your exact needs).

        • Yes, You can even work around the 16gb ram just fine.

        • @rowdywabbid: what do you reckon the chances any ryzen CPU's will be on sale before eofy?

        • @jerum3030: better off waiting for black Friday.

        • @rowdywabbid:

          But it's a whole 'nother year. :'(
          … that's what you said when Biggs and Tank left…

      • +1

        The XPS has 4 DIMM slots, only 2 used so you are good to go to upgrade.

        • +1

          Can anyone recommend some good options to upgrade to 32GB?
          I don't know the specifics on the RAM included with the XPS and what it would match well with.

    • +1

      32GB will help out a lot with After Effects. My 16GB fills up all the time.

      And both A.E. & Premiere Pro etc. will benefit a lot from a higher core count than on the CPU than the 4 core (8 thread) i7-7700.
      The difference between the 4-core 7700 I have in the office and the 6-core 5820K I have at home with After Effects is huge.

      I'd be eyeing an 8 core (16 thread) CPU from AMD like the Ryzen 1700 for about the same price as the i7-7700. Or an equivalent core-count Intel chip if they succumb to market pressure from AMD to drop their prices on the enthusiast platform.

      • Thank you. That was extremely helpful. If only Dell had the customize option. I would have opted for a 6 core and just bought it now.

      • Yeah I haven't priced the new AMD Ryzen builds yet but at the moment AMD seem to have the edge, which doesn't look like something that'll change for a little while at least. I've never owned anything other than Intel, I'd make the switch now.

  • Saw this last night, wish the CPU could be upgraded to the 7700k. Why don't Dell allow for any customisation these days? Is that just been pushed over to the Alienware category?

    • I think it's since providing an unlocked chip would force them to stop skimping out on the PSU and mobo, leading to a higher price increase than the difference between a 7700 and 7700k

    • There's no point upgrading the cpu to an unlocked one without being able to overclock it, and to overclock it you'll have to get yourself a different motherboard which costs more. Therefore increasing the price by a lot more.

    • Hmm yeah ok.. I'm not interested in over-clocking or anything like that. I just want the higher base clock speed. I'm tempted to go over to Alienware as those are on sale now too, but it's alot extra. But I'd only been doing a small amount of gaming on it. I want it mainly for music production.

  • +2

    Hope there is a i5 with 1080 combination.

  • +2

    I got one of these on a sale last time. Great desktop at a pretty good price. Very quiet and sleek.

    • Can you game smoothly?

      • Impossibru!

      • +15

        I also bought one last time at around 1800 I think.

        It's silent most of the time, just under heavy load do the fans become audible. But I have it sitting next to my monitor, on the desk, and even then it's in no way loud.

        It hasn't faltered running anything at 1080 60fps on highest settings. Witcher 3, Dishonoured 2, GTA V, The Crew, Dirt Rally, Grim Dawn, Diablo 3, MGS TPP, XCom2, Shadows of Mordor and Mad Max. Great for 3d gaming too (I use a passive monitor, so outputting 2 viewports at 1920 by 540 simultaneously)

        The SSD for operating system drive is great. Boot up time is around 10 seconds. No bloatware pre-installed, just the Dell firmware and device driver manager which allows itself to be turned off pretty easily.

        DVD drive is a little flimsy, not motorised. I've only had it open twice though.

        Front usb ports are easy to access, and fast. 100mbps using USB3.0 for external HDD.

        Inbuilt audio been ok, I use 3 analog outs into a 5.1 system, no problems configuring either using windows or the drivers that come with.

        Inbuilt bluetooth been handy for using PS4 controllers. No idea on wifi range, as I use an ethernet cable.

        The keyboard and mouse are surprisingly good. I use them in a different media pc, and they have 5 metres or so range LoS, 3 or so if the couch is in the way.

        I used to build my own PCs, but this was as cheap, had the components I would otherwise have chosen and just worked straight out of the box. Plus, no messing around with thermal paste!

        I feel like I'm shilling for Dell now, but I'm just pleased with what I got, and had similar reservations about pre-made pcs as expressed above.

        It also comes in a very solid cardboard box that is great for kids' crafting….

        • +1

          My needs (and experience) mirrors yours pretty much line for line (add Forza Horizon 3 running 2560x1440 at a consistent 60fps, using the new, very responsive, bluetooth enabled XBOX One controller) - May 2017 price was $1789 minus cashrewards @ 8% back then, so places it a very nice $1655.08 (well at least in August when the cashrewards are paid)

        • +1

          @memnemon: What's the cheapest way to buy Forza Horizon 3 for pc? Been seeing it at around $60 on some sales on here, but seems ridiculous for a PC game. (edit: just saw this https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/312547 which answers all my questions. Still expensive compared to most other AAA games available for $30 this long after release)

          I got 95 bucks back from cash rewards too, so yeah, prolly closer to $1700 for mine.

        • +1

          @BjornMorrison: Haven't seen it any cheaper than $60 myself - though I cheated (sort of) and just bought the XBOX One S console at Big W sale (still on sale $269 for 500Gb model) - it came with Forza and Fallout 4; Forza is one of their new XBOX Anywhere titles so got installed on both the Dell and the XBOX One (50Gb download for each… that was a night of the 100Gb download!) - they sync data… get kicked off the XBONE in the loungeroom (usually for some home improvement show) and just walk into the study and fire it up on the new Dell, carry on regardless … http://www.xbox.com/en-us/games/xbox-play-anywhere

        • +1

          @memnemon: Thanks, I was considering exactly this: instead of spending $60, spending $269 and calling it a better bargain! If only Xbone had better exclusives….

          Maybe I should jump in the Big W bundle thread and offer to buy the Forza code for $40….

      • There's a 1070 inside, of course.

  • +1

    Strange that there is no thunderbolt 3.

  • +1
  • This PSU is sufficient?

    • For the gear that's in there, yes.

    • Nah, Dell purposely used an under-powered power supply.

  • +2

    Makes it cheaper than the 1719 after the $100 cashback in April.
    You can get 4% credited straight back into your bank account if you go via powerbuy.com.au

    • Can you explain more on the $100 cash back?

      • It was a special that powerbuy was running at the time. The promotion is over

  • Anyone do a PC with USB-C front & back ports?

  • Plus dell pricepal 4.5% http://pricepal.com.au/Dell

    • only 2.5% if lowest level

  • -2

    Will this run minecraft? What about Crysis?

  • -2

    Hope there is a i3 with 1090 combination.

  • -1

    but will it blend?

  • Nice price and specs for a pre-built unit. Benefits over a self-built is the warranty and support covers both hardware and software. It may be worth buying extended warranty/support, if you plan on having something like this for a long time.

  • +1

    Great value for a pre-built. A DIY build ends up coming to around the same price.

    Tried to match it as closely as possible (but no bluetooth): https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/3BKjD8

  • I bought this in April.

    Hasn't missed a beat. I paired it with a Dell U2715H, so have been playing at 1440p @ 60fps. The games I have played haven't missed a beat yet. These include DOOM, Shadow of Mordor, Battlefield 4 and Battlefront.

    Definitely go for this!

    The version I bought came with Windows Home though… which probably doesn't make any difference to the average user.

  • Decent price actually. I would even consider getting extra warranty if it's going to be used for work.
    Collecting parts and building yourself is always fun until it doesn't boot. Do you have another whole PC to swap/test parts with? Can you return that particular part? etc…

  • +1

    I agree this is good value especially for regional areas without large PC part suppliers.

    The question for anyone who has used dell towers is, are the separate parts easy to replace/upgrade or are they really quite dell-specialized?

  • +1

    For anyone wondering, this machine uses a Z270 chipset for the Mobo

  • What is the potential with this rig for bitcoin mining? I currently pay $50 a week for a powered site and am thinking if I can get $5 a day mining it's worth it. Do I need to pay extra to get software to mine bitcoins? I am new to this craze and know very little about it.

    • +1

      Bitcoin is pointless to mine. Might make $10 per year nowadays because it's ruled by ASICs which can mine >hundreds of times faster than a 1070.

      Ethereum (also very popular) is not really worth mining with the 1070.

      Perhaps do some research into Zcash- you could probably make $60-70 per week, but that will obviously change depending on difficulty (which increases as more people mine) and the price of the currency.

      • How much money are we talking to buy one of these bad boys that mine hundreds of times faster than a 1070?

        • +1

          Quick look and for something alright it'd be around $1000+. E.g. the "Antminer S7" which would make ~1600/year based on current difficulty. Chews up power (>1200W) so if there's any kind of "fair use policy" on the site, it's not worth it…

          I'm out of my depths here though.

  • Is this overkill for someone who doesn't game on PC? Don't know how to build a PC myself but my budget is around this price and i'm in need of a new PC.

    • Well it depends what you planning to do on the PC. If you're just checking email/browsing online, then this is way overkill.

    • Complete overkill if you're not gaming. What do you generally use the PC for?

      • Just general browsing, downloading, watching movies etc. I find myself having a ton of browser tabs open a lot of the time and its been slowing the crap out of my pc. I need something quick (hate waiting for things to load) and find i quite often have multiple things running at once e.g. copying files to external hard drive, extracting files, playing a video, all while having ~40 tabs open in chrome

        • Do you know the specs of your current PC?

        • It was built around 10 years ago, here's what i remember

          CPU- Intel E8400 ?
          MB- Asus P5Q Pro
          GPU: ATI Radeon 4800? 1GB
          8GB RAM

        • +2

          @johnnytran:

          Oh ouch! That's ancient. An i5/16GB RAM should be plenty for an upgrade. With the current 20% off, I'd suggest taking a look at the PC Byte systems, as they're very good value with the 20% off (if you don't want to build yourself).

          I'd recommend to start with this, add on the RAM upgrade (8->16) here, and add on an SSD here.

          That comes to $853.60 + $50 shipping and also includes a GPU which is more than capable of most games these days at ~medium+ settings @ 1080P if you do choose to game in the future. Ends up cheaper than buying from MSY.

          PC Byte did have some issues with using 'generic' power supplies a while back, but this listing states it to be from "Corsair / Thermaltake / Cooler Master / FSP", so you should be fine. Issues were with systems like this with a "Tsunami" power supply.

          EDIT: Forgot OS - that'd set you back $127 if you choose to get them to install it.

        • @johnnytran:

          Bit of overkill. There are cheaper configurations of the same machine but nothing I'd recommend on a value basis.

          Definitely look for something with an SSD (256gb or more), an i3/i5 and at least 8gb of RAM.

          If you wanted to have a crack at building one yourself it's pretty straight forward, plenty of online guides and people on here or whirlpool will help with the config.

        • @donnot:

          Thanks I will look at some pre built systems but after reading about PC Byte I don't want to give them any business. I like the appearance of the dell (prefer simpler cases, no neon lights or see through covers etc) so far and it's well within my budget, if only I could change the GPU

        • @donnot:

          An i5/16GB RAM should be plenty for an upgrade.

          16GB of RAM is still overkill for your average home user, I recommend a minimum of 4GB for Windows 10 and 8GB for comfort.

        • +1

          @cdestratis:

          Not for the requirements he stated - "40 tabs in chrome," multitasking etc. Chrome can really eat up RAM and slow down the CPU once you start piling pages from experience (and common sense). For the small price premium, it's definitely worth having a bit of comfort and headroom. I find myself exceeding 8 with the aforementioned tasks (just chrome).

        • @donnot:

          Not for the requirements he stated

          I consider myself quite a heavy user on my personal and work computers, which both have 8GB RAM, and their limits have not been reached thus far.

          I find myself exceeding 8 with the aforementioned tasks (just chrome).

          I find it hard to believe that Chrome is using 8GB of RAM, and if it is, there's certainly something more sinister going on there.

        • @cdestratis:

          It is certainly a possibility if you're a tab hoarder like me :P. Chrome itself probably won't use the total 8GB, but other background processes will push you over the limit (or close to).

        • +2

          @donnot:

          Sounds like the problem is more user-related and not a lack of RAM. ;)

          I can forward you some details about speaking to a professional if you would like?

        • @donnot:

          Is this the same desktop listed on their ebay page?

          http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Dell-XPS-8910-Tower-Desktop-6th-G…

          brings it to $1679 not including the cashrewards cashback (1% or whatever it is for ebay)

          I'm really tempted to get this even if it is overkill, cant say i'm a fan of those pc byte builds as they don't include the wireless card or fans

        • @johnnytran:

          Yep, that's identical to this one.

          Might be also worth checking out Umart (they provide a build service where you can choose parts and have it assembled for $95), and you can configure it how you'd like. You also get a 1 year service warranty provided by them alongside the usual 2-3+ years most components come with (Dell is only 1 year total - consumer law might apply though, but I'm not certain as it's shipped from Malaysia).

        • +1

          @johnnytran:

          The desktop on this deal would be a pretty good option for you.
          https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/314457

          Spend the rest of your budget on nice peripherals (speakers, keyboard, mouse, monitor)

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