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$32.99/TB = Damn good price!
USB3.0, 3.5" External HDD
Thanks to Slick Deals
Seagate Backup Plus 4TB External Desktop Hard Drive - US$100.90 Delivered (~AU$131.96) @ Amazon US
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How so? If I read the page correctly it comes with a power supply in it, and I'd be surprised if it wasn't a 'world voltage' device (i.e. capable of taking 100v-230v). All you'd need to do is get a >$5 adapter to change the US plug to AU and you're set.
I think he means it's not a portable drive which is powered via USB eliminating the need to plug it in the wall.
Ah, yes, that makes more sense. Thanks.
Too be fair, its impossible to find a 3.5 hdd that runs off usb
Question for those in the know: does having it's own power supply make it more or less reliable in the longer term? Or no difference?
No, not really any difference. Broadly speaking, for consumer-grade drives the physical motion of the drive spinning contributes the most to them wearing out (enterprise-level drives, too, but they're built to handle it better). I'd be surprised if there were any external drives left these days that don't spin down during periods of inactivity. If any drive is left plugged into a running computer all the time it can still be subject to lots of motion irrespective of whether it's powered or not. I've known large 3.5" externally-powered drives to die after only a couple of years, yet I've still got one 2.5" non-powered drive that's nearing 10yo and it still works. Mind you, I don't store anything important on it…
Makes sense thankyou.
Good price for the 4TB hdd, can rip it out and put in the pc or nas.
For those wondering:"Inside the unit is a Seagate Archive HDD v2 ST8000AS0002 8TB 5900 RPM 128MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5 Internal Hard Drive".
If only it was…
It's ST4000DM000 Archive (SMR) according to Amazon Q&A section. Here is the data sheet.
http://www.seagate.com/www-content/datasheets/pdfs/desktop-h…
http://www.seagate.com/www-content/product-content/desktop-h…I love how Seagate make no mention of the RPM. According to many sites it is in the 5900 RPM range and the drives date back as far as 2013 (however the stock you may get might have newer manufacturing dates as I believe these were in production since 2013 onwards).
Shame, from what i've read archieve drives aren't for daily use and i've kept my 8tb as an off-power backup only. Probably fine for most people here though.
Strange, as far as I can tell and from reading both the PDFs you linked the ST4000DM000 is not an archive drive and uses TGMR not SMR.
An 8tb drive inside a 4tb external?
Main differences between powered (wall adapter) and unpowered drives. Full size HDD (3.5inch) vs Laptop hdd(2.5inch) Less power pulled from USB vs more power from usb. Better compatibility vs less compatibility with unusual devices. Less likely to spin down vs more likely to spin down. Annoying to find a spare plug vs no spare plug required. Longer typical lifespan vs shorter typical lifespan
In saying that, my 2TB Seagate 2.5inch unpowered drives (I have 8) don't ever spin down which is great.
Well not really, they will die quicker than if they spun down.
Perhaps but considering they are generaly used to store "backup" movies on (mine are used to store camera footage) they are plugged un, used and then put away it doesn't matter. But they are also standard laptop grade drives, not a "backup specific" drive. Many of the backup specific ones or "green" dive have a very limited start/stop and head land cycles and fare better running constantly. Nothing more annoying than a drive spinning up and down when connected to a TV or media hub, cue 6 second frozen screen.
Why are there more Seagate deals than WD? Don't Seagate sell as well and retailers need to dump stock?
What's inside?
I read people got ST4000DM000 from it
note that there's more than one version of these and it looks like they all have the same name, but different drives/specs/aesthetics. amazon usually indicates what drive is inside.
I bought 2 Seagate Backup Plus 4TB (NOT this version though) in 2014 and they have ST4000DM000 drives inside. kept one as external backup and put the other one in my pc. never had any issue yet, and it spins down and behaves just like my other desktop/workstation drives.
Bought 2. Can confirm there are trusty ST4000DM000 inside which is what I was hoping for.
Contrary to what others are saying on here the ST4000DM000 is not an SMR drive.
Will this work as ext hdd for PS4 (firmware 4.5)? Anyhow this is tempting even for just desktop back up. Can some one please convince me not to buy it? LOL
Edit: read the reviews, someone says this unit should work with PS4 but not the hdd with usb hub.
no longer available? deal seems dead
Still on I think, tough to get used the ene currency. It's worth so much I was about to buy a Seagate over a WD for the first time in my life thinking it was $13/TB!
Seagate Archive. Yuk. The price is appropriate.
Power source required kills it for me. Thanks