Hello,
So like the title says, I'm getting NBN soon from TPG 12mbps (to be exact 31st of January) and am wondering how fast is it compared to normal ADSL2+
I'm Getting NBN Soon, Is It Better than ADSL2+ and Exactly How Fast Is It?
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Theoretical maximum for ADSL2+ is 25mbps IIRC, so unless you get the higher tiers, you may not notice it…
That said, if you're like me prior to NBN, I had 5 mbps down on good days… NBN will beat it majority of the time (provided there is no congestion from your ISP)
Honestly, download speed is important, but I actually like upload speed increase from NBN more… trying to upload a short video to youtube took me well over an hour prior to NBN.
Yeah I agree
I'm on airfibre (non nbn vendor) in my apartment block and see speeds of 120mbit down and 60mbit upVDSL to the apartment but the DSLAM is downstairs in our basement so speeds are great
The upload speed makes a huge difference to being able to cloud store stuff
@shawncro 222: Yeah, I am actually thinking of making my own cloud server at the moment… can't seems to get mine working over the internet though.
28Mbps? Even if you lived in the exchange and had your PC right next to the DSLAM it is impossible to get this speed
28mbit, 28Mbps or 28MBps?
Most people don't know the difference :P
Either Way 28 anything is impossible on ADSL2
@Lenny Pepperidge: Maybe he meant 28 Megabits per minute or per hour? He did not specific per second.
The Broadcomm DSLAMS that a lot of ISP's use can actually support syncing at up to 30Mbps IIRC. At an ISP I used to work at, we had tweaked a users connection and he was getting about 27Mbps - he was about 150m of cable from the exchange.
are you FTTN or FTTP
I'm FTTP and currently im on 100mbps plan but i used to be with tpg 12mbps
ping is very good way better then adsl2+ speed is dependent on your distance from your exchange for adsl2+ while nbn isnt. you will get at least above 10mbps.
http://imgur.com/a/Y7zwm
Here is speed tests from my old tpg 12/1 NBN and my cirrent 100/40 Myrepublic speed test.Pretty much identical to mine with MR, my pings around 12 though from Melbourne
Myrepublic has been perfect for the last months and a half ive been connected.
Same here, been very happy. Got connected at the start of december and they emailed advising due to the time it took they wouldn't start the billing cycle for 2 weeks.
dam i wish my ping looked that good unfortunately i think the cables in the bass straight are made of silly string
single digit ping is awesome.
Anyone using Myrepublic in Sydney? Is it worth the change for FTTP?
yes i am.
from what ive seen as ive been following the whirlpool forum since my republics launch people with FTTP seem to have the best connection with my republic.
and sydney seem to have the best ping.i'd say yes based on my connection being amazing since i was connected.
though do note there customer service isn't very good luckily i didn't need to contact them at allif you are worried go month to month and cancel if you don't like it or they screw up or something.
remember they are cheap isp and a new one aswell.Thanks. How much time they take to connect. I emailed them few days ago and no response.
@Gaggy: they say up to 20 working days, mine was close to that but signed up at launch. The advantage with FTTP os you just put Myrepublic on the second port and cancel your old connection once it's active.
@Soluble: So even I am using NBN with TPG atm, it will take 20 working days? It is a bit long as I wanted it in 3 weeks max to do some testing. So I will pass as prices are going to change after that.
@Gaggy: i would look at whirlpool forum, i stopped looking once I was connected, people may be getting connected faster now
@Soluble: Thanks. But with the horrible stories and situations when you cannot contact makes me feel uncomfortable.
$30 per month savings are huge even if I get 80 Mbps download speed.Their phone support is very good. It's an aussie call center and it operates 24/7. This has got to be expensive, especially for the price they charge for their services.
Email correspondence is slow however.
So even I am using NBN with TPG atm, it will take 20 working days? It is a bit long as I wanted it in 3 weeks max to do some testing. So I will pass as prices are going to change after that.
Just a word of warning, as a fellow TPG customer who churned over.. TPG will require a minimum 30 days notice for cancellations. If you don't give them that, they won't stop charging you until 30 days after cancellation request.
Second issue is TPG specific. The porting of your landline number will take a very long time. MR told me this is something only TPG does. Every other provider takes 2-6 days. TPG could take 6 weeks or more. I joined MR mid December, and my number has still not ported over yet.
Oh and, for the number porting process to be completed, you need your TPG service to remain active. Which means paying TPG for 2 extra months of service even though you don't use them, and being without a landline for 2 months.
Combine this with the dodgy TPG practice of not refunding you any unused calling credit means I will never go back to TPG again, ever.
jesus that speed must be a pain in the arse if that's all you're getting
yeah
then you'll be better off on NBN.
(just remember that TPG are cheap for a reason, but then again still looking for one with good customer service)
@Rick Sanchez: TPG pricing is comparable to other ISPs. I don't consider them cheap at all. A 100/40 connection costs the same as Optus and Telstra.
That speed is…unbearoble!
@lostn: must have been a while since I last checked then. I'd be surprised if their customer service has improved since! We've been with iinet for years, and only started having major issues since the TPG takeover. Recommend staying away from both.
TPG 100/40 Unlimited costs $99.99. You get unlimited local and national calls but not mobile. Need $10 extra for unlimited mobile.
Telstra 100/40 1000GB is $99.00 which includes Foxtel. Calls are PAYG. 1000GB for me is unreachable, though to a very heavy user, Unlimited would beat 1000GB. Foxtel though… that's better to me than local and national calls which I can make on my mobile anyway.
Optus 100/40 Unlimited is $100. Unlimited local calls. Get $20 off per month if bundled with a mobile plan. $240 off if you go for one of the higher plans, which also include Fetch TV and more calls.
TPG's pricing is the same as big telcos but with fewer perks. I wouldn't call them 'cheap'. MyRepublic is cheap.
Holy balls. Did you even need to make a topic with download speeds like that?!
It's effectively like asking "Will the NBN be better than 3G download speeds?"
I am personally super excited for your first browsing/downloading session with the NBN. Your quality of life is going to explode.
This is mine, ADSL2+ few kms from the city. This is why I get OzBargained time and again.
@aurotaro:
I hope you're only paying $30 or less each month for that performance.I was on that same level paying (200GB) $50/month to a Good-for-Nothing ISP.
The first month, anyone that was new to sign up were put in the VIP stream and would get around 6Mbps.
I figured 6MBps was enough for my needs, and it was the cheaper option at the time. Also I was in metro, not far from the nearest Node, with nothing to cause interference/bottlenecks. I think anyone with ADSL should hope for at least 7MBps… that's the point where I notice things don't lag too much.But after the month (cooling-off period) ended, I was put in to the standard stream.
It stayed around 3.5Mbps for the most part, and I didn't do anything because I had a contract.
Then it got really bad. On a good day it would be 4Mbps. But it was usually around 1.8Mbps.
Sometimes it would be just 0.7Mbps. Other times it was 0.2Mbps or slower.
I would use my phone's 3G signal when I needed it, that's how ridiculous it was.
And the ISP at the time said "you're connection is working fine".I now live in a different spot, further from the node, with possible interference/bottlenecks, on TPG's Unlimited ADSL2+ for $10 more, and getting around 13Mbps consistently. I'll make the leap to NBN when the right time/price arrives, but so far I'm happy with my connection.
- But from all of this, I learned that "No Internet" is truly better than "Slow Internet" (false sense of hope).
@Kangal: I'm on iiNet's $59.95 plan. I'm looking at switching to Telstra's cable in the next couple of months after trying to get out of my 24 contract which might lead me to the Ombudsman etc, hence giving myself a couple of months
Vodafone 3G I still get 10mbit
@aurotaro: Let me know if you want some advice with putting a complaint through the ombudsman.
From my experience so far, I get the impression they've been trying to shut down complaints at all costs, and are completely avoiding any responsibility.
My TIO case ended up being closed without my permission by the iinet rep! They outright lied and emailed that I was satisfied with the outcome! (there wasn't an outcome - had to reopen the case, which I know will win)
Don't let them fool you with their pleasantries as they will take advantage of you. Just make sure to keep a good log of your conversations, not get frustrated and ultimately do not to back down.
@Kangal: Are you referring to sync speeds or throughput? Your ISP will have little control over the speed your line will sync at, since they have no control over the line itself, besides trying different sync profiles.
@Rick Sanchez: thanks Rick, appreciate it. Will definitely PM you if it gets to that stage. Really appreciate the help.
@Minotaur:
Issue was with throughput.
My connection was consistently decent during the cooling off period.
And on the exact day after I actually noticed a difference which is why I tested it, and the speed had halved from ~6 to ~3.5. Nothing physical had changed from my end, and I was in a house, connected via Ethernet and close to the node.After another 1-2 months I had this 3-4Mbps connection.
I thought to myself, this sucks, but I guess I'll just have to be patient.Then the rest of the 8 months I was around the 1.5Mbps rate.
I called and complained. They checked from their system said they were fine.
Gave me the usual "restart computer, unplug modem, restart modem" instructions.
It still was the same rate.
I asked for them to send someone to come out and see the connection themselves, because I suspected it was them but gave them the benefit of the doubt. They agreed. Never sent anyone.
I spoke to them, and they lied that someone came and tested it.
I called them on their lie, and they told me to stop harassing them.
We came to a middle-ground where they would send someone else.
They didn't. I called them again. This time they agreed to not having sent someone a week past their given date.
So they organised a reschedule.
My connection was still fluctuating between 0.2-1.8Mbps every single day.
On the day they said someone was going to come, my speed went back up to 4.5Mbps.
Very suspicious. Then someone came to test my connection, found no bottlenecks or faults.
And said the 4.5Mbps connection was good enough.
I told him it wasn't even a third of the theoretical speeds, and that this was actually fast compared to what I've been getting which was even less than half of this. He said he couldn't do anything.
He was telling the truth, he couldn't do anything, because the connection was so slow because the ISP's stream was so congested because they had more users than what was regular, bur instead of acknowledging this or doing anything about it they simply played coy, and used their VIP line for complaining/new customers then shifting them back to their main overcrowded streams.Dodgey af.
So after not being able to do anything about it, after an excruciating 10 months, TIO got involved.
And the TIO asked me for any Complaint ID# that I had with their visits.
I wasn't given one. So when TIO investigated them, they simply said that I had good service and never complained before.
They really were crafty.
But I was persistent, and managed to break the contract without penalties.
And the 2+ weeks TIO was investigating them, the next month rolled over, and that was refunded to me.Now, I live further from the Node.
I live in a Townhouse with connections going to several units/bottlenecks.
I even use Wifi instead of Ethernet connection.
…but I'm getting x10 faster speeds than I did from the old place.
What is the difference?
TPG's stream is no where near as congested as my previous ISP.
that was about my ADSL 2 speed, couldnt even load facebook videos or Netflix when other people were using it, changed to NBN 25/2 and my speeds about 22 now :)
but you could get faster speed in 5 minutes …
youre definitely going to see a difference if this is what you are getting.
EnjoyThat's about where I am with my ADSL2 speeds as well. It sucks living right at the outer edge of an exchange!
I feel your pain http://imgur.com/a/TCO3y
You're gonna be better off on NBN regardless of which one it is (FTTN or FTTP)
Many variables, for me yes I went from ADSL2+ syncing at 9Mbps to FTTB NBN where I now sync above 100Mbps however speed limited to 100Mbps.
Your experience will depend on how NBN is delivered, i.e FTTB or FTTN. If FTTN your distance from the Node will decide max speeds, generally you should be able to sync at at least 50Mbps.
As for actual download speeds, your telco of choice and how much bandwidth they purchase will result in great or average performance.
I have a question about sync rates… My modem shows the sync rate to be over 100mbps (roughly 101mbps) yet I am only getting speeds of around 95mbps. Whilst the extra 5mbps can be negligible, would the sync rate be affected by the distance to the node? I'm around 300m from the node.
Yeh it will be, I have FTTB and my downstream sync is about 125Mbps. But yeh on a 100Mbps plan if your modem is syncing at this or higher you should get close to full speeds.
You have to take a bit off the top for protocol overheads.
Ah, that would make sense… I didn't know what the sync rates were for in relation to actual speed. So sync rate does not equal to actual speeds… thanks!
@ProjectZero: At least with the NBN TG1 modem it reports max attainable sync rate and actual configured rate. I think NBN limit your rate to the speed you pay for be it, 12/1, 25/5, 50/20 or 100/40.
@CLoSeR: I'm on the 100/40 tier and loving it from 5mbps to 95mbps… at least now I do do stuff when others are watching youtube lol.
I'm only getting about 97mbps down so pretty upset about it.
But your profile says you are in Nigeria, so maybe that is why…
We need good connections to handle all the emails we send out.
Only?!, only 97mbps down, what world do we live in
A world where 300mbps is easily achieveable by other 1st world countries.
HK, Jap and Korea gets speeds above 250mbps for residential connections
(profanity) me, and I'm here with 2mbps
Sure but they don't have the land mass. Completely different environment also due to high rises in HK etc.
@apptrack: I'm actually just talking about the technology they use. It may be easier for them to roll out but their technology is what other countries are aiming for (FTTB or FTTP, mostly FTTB for HK)
and afaik you need a citizen's 18+ ID to use half the internet in best korea
@tomkun01: When you said "half the internet" you mean in terms of speed wise or is it the content you are referring to? If it is the latter, I think that it could be a good thing/
@tomkun01: That is a good thing… at least it will stop parents from complaining about R rated games being too violent for children…
A world you can thank the Liberals for, specifically Turnbull.
Or to be more specific, you can blame those who VOTED for the Liberals (when they were run by Abbott). They said what they were going to do, experts said it was a third rate option, and people voted for them anyway.
Just like Trump in America - wonder what their world will be like soon…
I didn't notice any difference when I swapped, but I just got the cheapest and therefore the slowest package from TPG
TPG used to have 50mbps for NBN, but they removed it. That one would have been perfect for me, as 100mbp is a bit 'overkill' :)
They told me it's because 50 Mbps was 'unpopular'. Make what you will of that.
25Mbps Download/5Mbps Upload is really the sweet spot for the average user.
It will support a couple of simaltaneous users and give you the additional upload speed so the whole connection isn't slowed down when someone uploads a photo to Facebook.
I got the 25mbps plan, it tests faster on speed tests however don't notice any practical difference during everyday usage.
low ping helps everyday use if you have decent down/up.
Ping is about 59, looking at moving to Myrepublic
I got 25 before switching to 100, and I was very happy with 25 myself. But after going to 100, I never want to go back..
Yep, tempted to make switch, faster and cheaper than my current plan, seems a no brainer.
25 is ok for now, but when 4k streaming becomes a popular thing, 25 won't be enough anymore. It might be enough for the 4k streaming, but if someone else wants to use the net and download things or do streaming of their own, they don't have that much to work with.
It will be about the same seeing you chose the slowest speed. It's around adsl 2 speeds.
He is getting under 3mbps down now, he will notice a dramatic improvement.
Ah, I don't see that in the post.
Fair enough then.
Sign up with these guys.
https://myrepublic.net/au/personal/nbn/
Worth the wait, haven't had any issues.
This is my speed
Jesus, I guess I'll try them soon then..
Plus it's $60 a month for a 12 month contract :)
I just hope they allow you to keep your price after your contract ends. If it's grandfathered, I don't see myself ever leaving them.
Keep in mind that this plan doesn't come with a public IP address, so you cannot contact your internal network from the Internet. This has advantages and disadvantages,
@noz: Unless you get the gamer package for an extra $10 pm.
But you would get a $200 PS4 pro voucher
I hear they had a lot of issues with processing requests and whatnot. How is the technical service? Are they locally based?
They are just overwhelmed. Support is ok ish, but once it's activated you wont have to speak to them..
Yeah no. You WILL need to speak to them like every other isp when shit hits the fan. Their nz facebook page was riddled with complaints
@Hahuh: Most likely by people that aren't too IT savvy.
I haven't had any issues, support has been ok, just take their time. The TIO is always one call away if worst comes to worst.
I'm with myrepublic. Happy with the speed and you can't beat the price.
They use carrier grade NAT which is an issue if you intend to host services but they offer a $10 Gamer plan upgrade to give you a static IP if you need it.
I've had ADSL thats faster then 12mbps, and I've ADSL that's slower.
Your ping will (probably) be lower.