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Philips 5.1 3D Blu-Ray Home Theatre - 1000W - HTB3580 - $199 + $12.95 Shipping @ Catch of The Day

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Philips 5.1 3D Blu-Ray Home Theatre - 1000W - HTB3580 - $199 + $12.95 Shipping @ Catch of The Day
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Lakfunstuff on 11/01/2017 - 12:29 catchoftheday.com.au (928 clicks)
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Awesome price for a branded 3D 1000W home theatre system. Features as per Catch of the Day website:

Pump up the volume and enjoy some deep, chair rockin' bass with this dynamic home entertainment setup from Philips. With 5.1 surround sound at your disposal, not to mention Bluetooth control, this Blu-Ray DVD player can turn any movie night, into an instant mini home theatre in seconds. And if party style beats are more your thing, wirelessly connect your smartphone with NFC pairing and blast some tub-thumping beats all night long.

  • Philips sound systems
  • 5.1 3D Blu-Ray Home Theatre
  • Model no.: HTB3580
  • Colour: Black
  • Package contents:
    • 4 x Tallboy speakers
    • Centre speaker
    • Subwoofer
    • FM antenna cable
    • 2 x AA batteries
    • Remote control
  • Power: 1000W speakers
  • Sound: Dolby TrueHD, Dolby Digital 5.1, DTS-HD Master Audio Essential
  • Up to 1080p full HD resolution
  • Blu-Ray/DVD/Mp3/CD/FM compatible
  • Interface: HDMI, ethernet, FM antenna, coaxial
  • NFC one touch connectivity
  • Connect and play music right from your smartphone
  • File type: AAC/MKA/MP3/WMA/GIF/JPEG/JPG/AVI/DIVX/MKV/MP4/MPEG/MPG
  • Full 3D Blu-Ray & DVD compatibility
  • Double Bass Sound
  • Smart TV connect
  • Auto-volume enhancement
  • Weight, with speakers: 23.25kg
  • Dimensions (approx. cm):
    • Blu-Ray player: 43 x 27.5 x 5.5 (L x W x H)
    • Tallboy speaker: 111 x 10 (H x W)
    • Centre speaker: 31 x 8 x 8 (L x W x H)
    • Subwoofer: 30.5 x 28.5 (L x H)
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  • spackbace on 11/01/2017 - 12:36
    +2

    FYI only 1 hdmi input…!

    • smartazz104 on 11/01/2017 - 12:38

      Could always buy a hdmi hub/splitter if required…

      • typhoonadventure on 11/01/2017 - 12:46
        +3

        unfortunately with a ton of devices they cause a ton of problems.

        Been through about 7 different splitter models so far, none of them like ps4, ps3 or pc, seem to get better performance on powered splitters, but they all still have handshake issues where everything could be fine for 3 hours or 3 minutes then black.

      • uccoffee on 11/01/2017 - 17:39

        many splitters got the audio problem, doesnt pass through the 5.1 7.1 etc properly.

    • 17833 on 11/01/2017 - 12:44
      +1

      How would this be a limitation? Other than connecting it to the TV, why else would you need more than one HDMI?

      • nafe on 11/01/2017 - 12:57
        +3

        Connect a games console, or a Android TV box etc to get surround sound….. my folks have their WDTV connected to their Samsung system so they can have DTS sound when watching movies.

      • spackbace on 11/01/2017 - 13:01
        +2

        As above, direct input of gaming consoles, media players etc. Only other option is relying on the TV to handle the extra inputs, and transmitting via ARC

  • typhoonadventure on 11/01/2017 - 12:43

    Loudspeaker types
    1 x Centre speaker
    4 x Tallboy speakers
    Center speaker freq range
    150 - 20k Hz
    Center speaker impedance
    3 ohm
    Satellite speaker freq range
    150 - 20k Hz
    Satellite speaker impedance
    3 ohm
    Subwoofer type
    Passive
    Subwoofer driver
    1 x 6.5" woofer
    Subwoofer freq range
    20 - 150 Hz
    Subwoofer impedance
    3 ohm

    3ohm speakers…… do not buy.

    • C0123 on 11/01/2017 - 12:45

      Do not buy because it is a bad deal for the price, or do not buy because you prefer to spend more and get more?

    • Rail Rider95 on 11/01/2017 - 12:46
      +2

      Why? Why is that specific impedance a red flag to you?
      Fairly new to high end sound systems so I'm curious what about 3 ohms is ingerently bad

      • typhoonadventure on 11/01/2017 - 12:51
        +9

        my background is in electronics engineering, unfortunately philips like panasonic is known for putting its name on some really cheap nasty setups.

        Been seeing a lot of these on buy sell swap groups for 50-100 these days and struggling to sell.

        For an entry level system you are looking for something around 8 ohms which you will generally find most of your pioneers, yamaha's at.

        These speakers are running 3ohm at 166w max, subwoofer is also passive (non powered) @ 166w as well….. not a great indicator of quality, again it's a red flag because you can get decent speakers at many impedence ranges but it comes down to who made them and how they made them, for instance there are some great speakers out there running at 4ohm, but you rarely see these on the low end of the market, these cheap re-brand units (this is likely not made by them, just has their name on it) all seem to be running similar gear in different casings with 3 or 6 ohm speakers all running similar wattage.

        Don't get me wrong if you were gonna spend up to $100 for a starter kit this would be great, but for $200+, the quality just is not there, you will also be prone to blowing these as well, i've seen this exact model come up a lot on gumtree as well and the center speaker seems to be the first one to die.

        • C0123 on 11/01/2017 - 13:04

          Legend, thanks for your comment.

        • spackbace on 11/01/2017 - 13:07
          +3

          but for $200+, the quality just is not there

          So what would you recommend as an alternative?

          You sound like someone who is now going to suggest someone go out and buy a $1,000 system instead of this $200 system, just because

          subwoofer is also passive (non powered)

          Very common for a 'home theatre in a box' setup <$1000…

        • Rail Rider95 on 11/01/2017 - 13:14

          Thanks for the in depth reply mate!
          Always good to learn more

          Although I would challenge the negative of a passive subwoofer
          I have a Sony sound system (piece meal from the 90s) with a passive sub that's about 10", and it literally shakes the walls, and that's at its minimum spec, cranking it to the max (before tweaking preamp) is just ludicrous and actually overpowering for almost every situation

        • scuderiarmani on 11/01/2017 - 13:35

          I'm sorry but the ohms of the speakers has absolutely nothing to do with the quality of this setup, the fact it's a HTiB (Home Theatre in a box) is a far more important factor in the quality here. They are designed to be basic, cheap and better than TV audio and they are priced accordingly. Not to mention Philips obviously isn't known for quality audio gear.

          I had Boston Z6 speakers all round in my previous car, they are one of the best speakers you could get (back when people cared about audio in cars), they are 3ohm. That was a huge factor in me wanting them too, as it'd draw even more power from my Amplifiers.

          As below though, the speaker power ratings of 1000w with 10% THD is the real alarm bell figure, but if you are seriously believing you are getting a 1000w stereo system with a real 1000w for $200 you'd probably be reading the Apple photo book while listening to Beats headphones :)

          For $200 I'd suggest people save more money and find something second hand, a soundbar is an option, albeit I hate the sound of them. Spend more once, and you'd save money.

        • typhoonadventure on 11/01/2017 - 13:47
          +3

          @Spackbace:

          My recommendation would be avoid going retail on this one, gumtree and facebook swap groups you can routinely find a pioneer or yamaha amp that may be a few years old on there with some speakers, they generally won't be high or even mid end speakers but they will normally be a lot better than the ones with this in the price range of $100-200, generally if they are priced above this as well you can haggle them down.

          As for retail options, keep looking on ozbargain and checking your jb hifi, a while ago jb hifi had a decent VSX series amp with hdmi's going out dirt cheap, I remember hooking up a friend with one of those and some JBL low end speakers.

          End of the day not going audio snob on it, i'm not an audiophile that's gonna use the old snob line of "the subwoofer shakes the wall? then it proves its setup wrong, a good subwoofer should never be heard" etc.

          Get a sound system that you are happy with the quality from, if you could go to a store and try these out and were genuinely happy with them, i'd say go for them if you were happy with the price range, having heard these and knowing the specs, not a fan as many old units will nail this one to the wall.

          As rail rider has mentioned, he has an older setup as well with a passive sub (passive can be good depending on how it's been done) and he's more than happy with it.

          For a while in the pc / gaming world the best set of speakers bank for buck was a logitech x530 setup, you look at that one on paper today and it will look like junk, low wattage speakers with a passive/active sub (it's an inbetween), but back then for $50-100 this thing was the balls for a small setup, I actually still have one of these and it holds up ok….. i've still found it can match and outperform digital equivalents, but then again you can find that with a lot of now cheaply priced amps).

          You've gotta remember these packs have been had to be cheap and fill a market gap, given that many better quality products have now fallen to this price range in the seconds market or even on markdown, this gear was only ever made to fill the cheap end and the components and quality involved were just designed to meet a low cost, not a quality benchmark.

          Again sounds like a negative but that depends on what price range it is fitting into, again sub $100…. would be a reasonable entry set, but if you are going to spend over that, gumtree / facebook groups or keep waiting for a better system to crop up, another disadvantage this setup has is also lack of future proofing.

          As mentioned above if you pickup another package with a dedicated amp, your free to changeover or upgrade the speakers, these cheaper kits are normally designed as AIO (all in one), so yes you can physically upgrade the speakers, but your not going to be able to crank up the performance to match them.

          Right now in our house we have 3x amps running : Modern pioneer VSX 7.1 series, forget the model number, was on special at jb hifi last year for $199, down from 399, talked it down to 140 cash. It's magic, using it with 15 year old speakers inc a powered sub for the main home theater, its great, but thats not an option for everyone.

          Games room is currently running a semi modern yamaha amp, this thing was top of the line back in the day, and im talking around 5 years ago, so it has everything you want, slams out decent wattage, can handle 8-16ohm speakers in 5.1, plenty of analogue inputs, 3x digital inputs via optical, that was purchased via gumtree for $65 about 4 months ago, thats running a bunch of jbl speakers picked up at jb hifi on markdown for $60, active power subwoofer was purchased on gumtree for $20.

          There some options out there, a mate purchased a muteki setup last year retail I forget where from at $229, 5.1 setup, speakers arent the best quality but better than the ones in the deal by light years, amp is allright for a sony, only issue is the whole setup is trying to use flashy lighting over everything to make it seem more impressive than it is, but for a small - mid room setup its great, he finds it a bit of a laugh though that they were marketting it as a huge home theater kit.

        • ozbargin0011 on 11/01/2017 - 13:49

          I am looking for speakers/system (entry level) for a long warehouse gym and would like to be able to play music at both ends or in 2-3 sections of the warehouse from the one speaker system.

          What would you recommend typhoonadventure? Would something like this deal not work for that?

        • ItsMeAgro on 11/01/2017 - 13:49
          +1

          @Spackbace:

          But if the sound system is so weak, will it really be significantly better than just using your TV's speakers?

          I suspect most people will end up preferring strong stereo sound to weak surround sound.

          Keep in mind most people spend way too much on their TVs these days, and a lot of the crazy expensive models they like have OK sound.

        • typhoonadventure on 11/01/2017 - 13:50

          @scuderiarmani: again its not an indicator of quality, its an indicator of what it is, given the branding and power rating on it, it looks like another goldstar HTIB in different packaging as usual.

          And agreed on the last point, to those who it's not an option on, as suggested buy the upgradable way, as much as you want an amp with hdmi on it, they can still be problematic and with 4k coming in as well you can end up much better off finding a decent unit with TOSLINK digital inputs to future proof the unit, but enough power and audio capability (avoid kogan like the plague) that you can grab some much better quality speakers down the track when you feel up to it.

        • scuderiarmani on 11/01/2017 - 13:52
          +2

          @mgowen:

          This will easily beat any TV's sound. I haven't heard a single TV that had audio that'd compare to something external.

        • spackbace on 11/01/2017 - 13:55
          +1

          @typhoonadventure:

          So in amongst all that is 'buy second-hand'

          Some people prefer new, full warranty etc. Basically you haven't given those people a good enough alternative.

          It's like the age old 'why buy a new car, when for the same price I get a better used car'. Again, many people prefer the new.

          For someone on a budget who only has TV speakers, this is an excellent option and better than an average sound bar setup. Not to mention, buying second-hand audio gear, you have no idea how well its been treated etc.

        • scuderiarmani on 11/01/2017 - 13:56

          @typhoonadventure:

          You knocked it back on the ohm's, that doesn't determine quality.

          And as for Toslink, no, you'd want HDMI for audio looking forward, ideally with all the latest codecs like Atmos… Toslink is out of date and pointless in receivers these days, hence them usually only having 1 or 2 at best for old times sake (like coaxial, composite and component).

          An entry level receiver could be typically had for $3-400, get it second hand and you could easily pay half that, such is the huge drop in pricing for audio gear second hand.

        • typhoonadventure on 11/01/2017 - 13:58
          +1

          @ultimatefreq: you'd laugh, we actually did this at work, prowl your gumtree for some cheap decent amps.

          Ended up scoring a 1999 5.1 ss model yamaha (forget model) with plenty of inputs, considering we were playing off a computer and had a digital radio we could plug in as backup, as long as it's got decent audio capability, inputs were not so much of an issue as we could use rca's for it.

          Dug up some vintage realistic speakers as well, it's not a brand too many people would hear of these days but back in the late 80's early 90's they made some really great speakers which you see come up for sale every now and then, 3 way decent rms speakers, originally just ran it in stereo for one section but when we wanted to cover the whole place (we're talking a massive facility) we figured we'd just buy another couple of amps and stick one in each section, outta curiosity ended up scoring another couple of those speakers and ended up with 8 of them in total as well as getting another similar amp, found that running in prologic II mode (effectively just duping the channels in surround sound mode) ended up doing 2 areas of each of the 2 amps running rca's to each using a splitter.

          Not the most hi-tec setup but considering the budget for the whole thing was $100, gumtree to the rescue on that one, both amp's only set us back $20 each, speakers ended up being less than $60 all up.

          Can always go more modern but again see whats out there in the private sales, you can get really lucky sometimes.

        • scuderiarmani on 11/01/2017 - 13:59
          +1

          @Spackbace:

          Speakers can and do last forever, without degradation, I've got a set of Kefs in my HT, 10 years old atleast, sound amazing still, if not better with the newer gear running them. Modern electronics (receivers) are pretty lousy though compared to older day components though…. They don't last anywhere near as long as they once did. I actually just turned my setup into ATMOS by adding matching speakers from Gumtree, bought 1/10th the price of their original value.

          if you were to buy higher end gear, from someone that cares, you can get a real bargain.

        • spackbace on 11/01/2017 - 14:05
          +1

          @scuderiarmani:

          if you were to buy higher end gear, from someone that cares, you can get a real bargain.

          Person who cares = person who demands high price. Person who doesn't care = cheap price ;)

          Cmon, let's all be honest here, in amongst all the bullshit, if you only have $200 to spend, you'd struggle to find a whole 5.1 system with amp for this price. You can always spend more to get more, but don't spout off big rants about how this is crap, you an do better, etc etc… you can't or you'd be struggling to.

          There's always the story of 'my cousin's friend's dog scored this bargain off Facebook/Gumtree' etc etc, these are people that need cash fast, fell off the back of a truck etc, but not a common scenario

        • scuderiarmani on 11/01/2017 - 14:08
          +1

          @Spackbace:

          I have bought 3 lots of Kef Egg satelitte speakers on Gumtree (bad habit), I think 8 individual speakers and a sub, a full 5.1 set would have been $2500. For those 8.1 I would have paid around $400.

          I've put 2 for atmos, 2 for my wife's laptop, 2 for my PC, and have 2 spares atm. I have connected my wife's speakers with a 2*20w chinese rubbish amp off ebay for around $20, and it sounds amazing. And without a lie, infinitely better than anything like this would. Even without a dedicated low end driver.

          For what its worth, I sold 2 mid range Denon Receivers on Gumtree, both hardly used (I needed slimline in my new furniture so they didn't fit) They were 2-3 years old, RRP combined of around $2500, I sold them to someone who clearly liked audio as much as I did for around $400 for the pair from memory a few months back.

        • spackbace on 11/01/2017 - 14:12

          @scuderiarmani:

          Still not hearing $200 or less… ;)

        • scuderiarmani on 11/01/2017 - 14:15

          @Spackbace:

          I wouldn't spend $200 on my TV's audio setup, particularly if my TV cost 5 or 20 times as much…. to me audio is infinitely more important than the TV. I really don't know why people go out and buy $2k TVs and spend $200 on audio, it's stupid.

          I'd save up a few hundred more as a bare minimum, and find a reasonable soundbar, or shudders the Bose one isn't bad for a few hundred at Costco.

        • spackbace on 11/01/2017 - 14:16

          @scuderiarmani:

          But if you were a uni student/share house etc etc, it's good bang for buck! Not to mention the Blu-Ray player as well.

        • scuderiarmani on 11/01/2017 - 14:18

          @Spackbace:
          Alongside a $500 Aldi TV, yep. If you just bought an OLED with all your money and paired it with this….

        • typhoonadventure on 11/01/2017 - 14:25
          +2

          @scuderiarmani: amen to that.

          I get people want to always buy new, but with audio gear comparing that to cars is not a good idea.

          It's not like you can buy a second hand mercedes, not find any dents on it and trust the odo and your set.

          With a lot of audio gear with trusted brands with models that are well known, even a novice with 20 minutes of internet research can find if a model is good and known for performance and longevity and then how to look for defects.

          When I worked in nightclubs and for many tours you'd be surprised how old and used a lot of the gear is, when a nightclub closes down a lot of the time their speakers are highly saught after.

          Forget rest of names to tag - attempting to keep up with.

          Ohms issue already address, again not the sole indicator of quality, but again, not many 3ohm speakers are going to give you good quality for a small home theater.

          Quality in general - yes these can be better than than the built in speakers on a tv, but some will even kill this setup, it really depends on what you have, our samsung in the living room effectively has a soundbar built into it we don't use, it would anihilate this pack on quality, it won't do surround sound obviously, but again this is where i'd refelct on the pricing point again.

          Those who want to buy new only - awesome go buy new, I can't throw you a link to a better deal from a retail shop at the moment, but again just something to think about, you will always want to upgrade at some point, if you are looking in the $200 range right now, this is not an answer where in a years time you can just get beefier speakers….. your stuck with the kit as the kit, so you will likely be looking to resell this when you decide to upgrade, again look on gumtree / fb swap groups, thats why there are tons of htese on there.

          The hdmi comment, I use to be on this train of thought as well…. then full on converted to HDMI everything via the amp via a top of the line pioneer amp. Why is this one now in the living room home theater kit? Well as mentioned above, hdmi can be a complete bitch on some things, for some reason my ps4 and now ps4 pro… hated that amp, upgraded and had a $700 yamaha amp last month on special down from $1300.

          Same sorts of issues, there is also no real future proofing there, none of the amps out there support 4k (ones that claim that they do have issues as well). Had so many issues with ps4 pro/1s, even the ps3 had handshake issues with them.

          And yes. Correct 4k connections and all. Hence that one going, the pioneer one going to my father in the living room for his home theater (it has no issues with his ps3 slim and blu ray running through it except ps3 still suffers some encoder issues.) Again, just because it claims it supports them doesnt mean it's issue free unfortunately.

          This is why im back on an older amp running toslinks, ended up having to run 4k HDMI straight to the TV to avoid a lot of the issues.

          For reference as well the speakers we are using the lounge are massive yamaha home theater setup speakers from the 1999 lineup when they were heavy pushing 5.1 for home theaters, I still remember the marketting gimmick that they could put a glass of water on top of each of the speakers, and one in front, then put on backdraft, the glasses on top would barely move and the ones in front would dance and spill.

          My father blew $1400 on those speakers and an amp back in 99', today those speakers can be found for a few hundred bucks on gumtree when they show up, they will still sound great and can give modern setups a run for their money.

          If you were to go into jb hifi right now and try and buy similar you'd be looking at big money, but that being said, you can find some bargains, as mentioned above the JBL sets we and our mate got on clearance were dirt cheap and they were extremely reasonable for what they are, 8ohm speakers knocking out decent RMS, reasonable quality. Though be warned if you see another brand called JBS don't touch them, no relation, terrible quality.

          Finally lets just do a quick quality talk, to anyone knew to audio, everyone is going to have opinions, throw numbers and stats at you, your buying a set checkout the overall build quality, if it looks like something a kid has slapped together, generally a red flag, if the sticker is peeling off the back of it, if you pop the cover of the speaker and find things like fake screws (kogan looking at you), find that one of the speaker bits is just molded plastic (again kogan and panasonic looking at you, with your fake tweeters), if they seem like they are putting a lot of flashy stuff on to cover up the speakers (sony looking at you), you can get a general indication of the quality, first of all sit down in front of it and have a listen and ask yourself if you like it.

          If it fits with in your price range and what your going to use it for and you are more than happy with it go for it, but if you can see yourself wanting to upgrade in a year or so, you might wanna give a set like this a miss.

          As mentioned above if you find yourself sitting at the "these have to be better than stock tv speakers" end, a soundbar might be an option, again like many others on here, a lot of us hate them (girls seem to love them for less wires and looks), you might even find any reasonable power old amp with two stereo speakers are even better, i've known many who have simply pulled out an old boombox with RCA input and plugged that into a tv and found that an incredible improvement on their tv speakers.

          Anywho hope this helps with some, I just didnt want a lot of people falling into the usual catch of the day "this must be a bargain, I better rush and buy it" trap.

          Unfortunately it just looks like a ton of these are sitting around, if it was $100 or under i'd be saying jump on it kids, but the value just is not there especially if you are open to going used.

        • Jackson on 18/01/2017 - 08:52

          @mgowen: Yes, because 90% of TV speakers blow dog

      • jeayese on 14/02/2017 - 02:39

        I would have to say that it's stated that these come with wireless rearspeakers.. this is false and everyone who has purchased it has claimed that it's unavailable in Australia because of not meeting some standards or something.. Have a read here: http://www.philips.com.au/c-p/HTB3580_79/5.1-3d-blu-ray-home…

        Damn I was this close to hitting buy now!

  • JepunK on 11/01/2017 - 12:50
    +3

    Hare are Some reviews on the System:

    http://www.philips.com.au/c-p/HTB3580_79/5.1-3d-blu-ray-home…

    • typhoonadventure on 11/01/2017 - 12:56
      +3

      Yeah its part of what scared me as well as it looking like the generic goldstar re-brand units that have been pumped out the last 5 years in different cosmetic looks.

      That and the amount of this particular unit showing up on gumtree/fb bss groups.

      Again props to the guy for posting the deal up, if it was a lot cheaper it would be a good starter kit but for the money, the value just is not there :(

  • Iamspy on 11/01/2017 - 12:53
    +1

    One silly question, can it be connected to smart television just to watch normal tv and enjoy powerful sound through this system .

  • djkelly69 on 11/01/2017 - 13:14

    OP, where did the 1000W RMS (in title) come from? Can't see it in the COTD information?

    Pretty sure it would be 1000W peak rather than RMS for a system like this.

    • spackbace on 11/01/2017 - 13:16

      It's on Philips website… first thing I checked ;)

      http://www.philips.com.au/c-p/HTB3580_79/5.1-3d-blu-ray-home…

      Total Power RMS @ 10% THD - 1000 W

      (afaik 10% THD isn't great… but hey it's a $200 system)

      • scuderiarmani on 11/01/2017 - 13:43
        +2

        10% is terrible….

        Real Quality gear is often rated around 0.001 to 0.05% THD.

        That 1000w figure may as well be 1,000,000,000w, it really means nothing.

        • spackbace on 11/01/2017 - 13:45

          I tried to find tech specs on the Samsung equivalent but couldn't find it on their site

          (to compare)

        • scuderiarmani on 11/01/2017 - 13:48

          @Spackbace:

          I had a Samsung one in a spare room for the Wife a couple years ago, wireless rears, it wasn't the worst thing in the world tbh, it absolutely killed the TV audio, but running a pair or book shelves or something would really put these to shame. The high's aren't there, they are all pretty muddy too.

          I'd be very ware of comparing any of these based on figures too, the power figure can also be warped depending on how many channels driven and the frequency played, some will say it's 1000w, one channel driven, at 20khz at 10% THD. When it's quite likely that a quality system rated at 30w, 0.01% at 20hz would sound infinitely louder (and clearer).

  • Do I NeedThis on 11/01/2017 - 13:16
    +1

    are the speakers wireless ? does anybody know

    • spackbace on 11/01/2017 - 13:17
      +1

      No, and apparently hard to find the wireless adapter

  • akfunstuff on 11/01/2017 - 14:08
    +4

    For someone who needs a brand new system and doesnt want to spend too much this is a great option. I paid around $140 just for a Samsung 3D Blu-ray player, so at $199 with full speaker set its a great value. Anybody expecting this to be an outstanding unit is setting their expectation too high; after all its just around $200 for complete and new set. Sure its not the best unit and one can spend more or choose a second hand one; but hey…..this is brand new, compact unit with tower speakers. Cant go wrong for the price :-)

    • PictureMeBroken on 11/01/2017 - 14:47
      +2

      Best answer. Hands down. Upvote

    • loke on 11/01/2017 - 18:07

      I got one of these for a secondary TV / entertainment room, 1 year ago ~12-13 days ago :

      https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/228138

      The Panasonic TH-55CX640A TV I got about 2 days later unfortunately doesn't pass through 5.1 sound through HDMI ARC and will put it out into stereo, so I bought optical cables and a cheapo optical audio cable splitter to hook up the PS4 / Xbox to the player itself.

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