10TB Storage Capacity
3.5" Form Factor
SATA III 6 Gb/s Interface
256MB Cache
7200 rpm
Up to 210 MB/s Data Transfer Rate
Seagate 10TB IronWolf 7200 Rpm SATA III 3.5" Internal NAS HDD US $430.89 (~AU $572.50) Delivered @ B&H Photo Video
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What's that, about 18c/GB. What a time to be alive.
About 6c/GB by my calcs.
Just made me flashback to a period where a Maxtor 540Mb HD was $600.. Looking forward to 100TB SSD drives, 10 yrs from now.
and they'll be under $100
Made me flashback to my first 10MB HDD.
This is one million times bigger.
Yeah, I got a flashback of my first 32KB HDD with a 244khz CPU. How times have changed since then.
@tren: What sort of machine was that?
Cept for the Donald thing…
The last time I bought HDD's from these clowns they had serial numbers on the invoice and they mismatched the serials on the HDDs. Somehow the serials don't work on the Hitachi website either for warranty status checks. Am left going "WTF?" when I want to do something about a drive that has only 160 hours on it and bad sectors. Don't know if consumer rights (arguably sold defective) + corresponding with hitachi will work since it's imported stock and technically still functioning.
Good deal! I got one of these drives on the last 20% eBay sales. Excellent drive and surprisingly fast but it does not have the middle mounting holes on the side of the drives so some NAS and cases where you don't have the full length bracket might be incompatible. Another thing is I didn't realise it is a helium drive. Bit of a question mark on the reliability in the long run.
I think at these capacities, and attempting to keep the 3.5" form factor, they're all going to be Helium drives.
whats wrong with He drives?
the gas will escape eventually. just read about this on reddit. whether this matters (as all HDDs fail eventually) is another question. how soon it happens is another q.
if it lasted about 5 yrs it might be ok (i'd prefer closer to 10), as i'd expect high capacity SSDs to be mainstream then. they have their limitations as well, but ok for longer term storage without so many reads/writes.
…not a fan of B&H any longer. 6tb WD black was dead on arrival but refused to refund/exchange as i did not keep the original manufacturer packaging. I had to send it back to Vietnam for warranty.
Standard procedure
That standard procedure certainly isnt the case in Australia. Especially so since the drive is an OEM drive and the cardboard outer is simply a plain box. In any case, Paypal dispute gave a refund for the entire order and Ialso was told to keep the items.
Just because eBay finally got around to interpreting our law in such a way that they now force vendors using PayPal to support the product in a compliant way(if a buyer follows the procedure to the tee and doesn't screw up their claim), doesn't mean that the Standard International Procedures that a multinational company applies to punters everywhere will get changed. In Oz, we're luckily special… but it won't be long till Trickle-down-Trumpalawmics brings our pesky gubmint into line with everyone else supporting US's back-side. Then, those poor multinationals distributing slave-laboured products out of Singapore will be able to re-make themselves Great, again!
Remember to buy less than two or you'll be hit up for GST!
so buy one?
Or none works too.
So how do these drives go running 24x7 in a server for multimedia storage? mostly read, very little write and told to stop spinning after 10 minutes of no use?
I'm assuming more suitable than a 8TB archive drive?
These are NAS drives and should have TLER enabled (good for used in a RAID), so they are great for your need. But the benefit of spinning down after 10 min would be debatable.
Sorry I just read the description on the site, says everything you would want to hear for what I asked about above, whether or not it's just marketing or real world performance is probably a better question?
Why do you say powering down the drives after x amount of time is no good though? wouldn't it increase the life of the drive and decrease power consumption?
as with most electronics with moving parts, leaving it on 24/7 is often better.
The HDD powering down regularly can contribute to failure.
Drives don't like to be spun up and down frequently
@Piranha2004: thanks for the info I was unaware of this, If I was compare it to a computer being turned on and off for usage it would then would it be fair to say having the drives power down every say 2 hours would be a decent compromise/similar (the server often goes days without use but is still turned on).
thanks for all the feedback btw guys
Don't all drives naturally spin down when inactive. Still powered but not physically spinning?
@roh008:
Probably but your drive won't last too long if you spin it up and down every 10 mins. It's like with anything in life. Wear and tearI understand where you are coming from. It's just that I didn't think HDDs stay in a constantly spinning state? Have they done research in terms of wear and tear is increased if spinning down then up occurs within 30 mins 60 mins etc? Every 10mins sure, probably not worth spinning down but within a 24hr period what is the recommended settings?
@roh008: Wouldnt know sorry. Im sure if you spin them down once an hour it should be OK.
Maybe a dumb question, but is this just the HD that slots into a NAS box? That is, you need a compatible box to actually put it in? If so, which box would be compatible?
difficult question to answer as there are literally hundreds (if not thousands) of options.
This drive has a 3.5" form factor. Any NAS unit that supports 3.5" drives should work.
I say should above because, some of the older NAS's might not support capacities that high, so be careful with your choice.
Gees 10TB of stuff is a lot to lose :/
Or a lot of stuff to have backed up! i.e. not lose
That's why you buy 2-5 and RAID them :)
Imagine trying to zero wipe erase this hard drive.
That is a crap tonne of data to lose in one hit lol.
i had my cc info entered and everything then stopped for a second and questioned the price.
is this actually a deal? what price was it reduced from? it's about $100 less than MSY, so let's say there's an ebay deal or sale somewhere it might not be worth the hassle of buying international if someone goes wrong
what was it reduced from?
what are the chances this dropping even more come black friday?
Here is a local one for you Shopping Express $618.40 with code C20ELF
they jacked up the price from $735
if it was 20% off $735 then it'd be a deal, and worth the extra $10 to buy locally
problem is, when needing to buy about 4-5 for a file server, it's quite the issue.
My understanding is that Black Friday is essentially like a 12% off sale…it's okay but…most other sales are better throughout the year.
Also, of course the longer you wait, the cheaper it will be. As for warranty, personally, I'm fortunate enough that I have not yet had a issue with anything I've bought from overseas, including grey market merch.
At this point I've certainly saved more than the cost of this drive "rolling the dice"
Thank you very much.
Needed to increase my desktop storage and ironically this HDD would be faster than my current ones at 5200RPM.
Whether any one wants to buy these drives is one's own judgement, but just to let you know if this report is correct, then Seagate have the highest failure rate as compared to other brand of HDDs.
https://www.backblaze.com/blog/hard-drive-reliability-stats-…
And 10 TB is a lot to loose in one go, even if it is completely useless as adult educational movies ;). As usual, it is your money your choice, but it is better to make an informed choice.
Delivered? That is very very good price.