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Moretti 2000W Orange and Black Astro Fan Heater $19
- 2 heat settings: 1000W / 2000W
- Adjustable thermostat
- Fan mode only
- Tip over safety switch
- Overheat protection
Moretti 2000W Orange and Black Astro Fan Heater $19 @ Bunnings Warehouse
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Was shopping for a heater last night & checked those out, along with this deal. Seems all have the features listed in this deal.
I wanted a heater to be used by an older relative, to warm the ensuite while their carer showered & dressed them. So would be used little per week in relatively warm Brisbane.
Looked at but rejected one in deal (probably unstable, find it fugly), Coles one (bought & returned it) etc as these are liable to fall over. Yes, there is a cutout switch in all these units, but electricity & wet floors are a hazard. Kmart was out of stock of $15 & dearer oscillating units at most Brisbane stores.
Best to check airflow as that varies a lot with different models.
Bought the $19.95 Bunnings one for stronger air flow (smaller outlet funnels airflow), more stable, easier to use switched (others are on sloping or curved surfaces - hard for an elderly user). Happy with it.
These things should come with a warning label to let people know that it costs over $0.50/hour to run them. I have known many people who don't know how to calculate power consumption/cost, and received huge bills due to heaters like this. Horribly inefficient.
Exactly, along with the Theromix too right?
I agree. Complete and utter garbage. I didn't have any option but to use an electric heater at my old apartment and it was TERRIBLE. Heated up the surrounding 1m2 and nothing else.
Now we have a gas heater and couldn't be happier
How is this heater inefficient? Heaters are supposed to convert as much electricity to heat as possible.
A simple heater like this one uses electricity to heat the element and to run the fan to circulate the hot air. The only inefficiency is the electricity used to operate the controls and thermostat which is negligible. This heater is in fact super efficient (as a heater).
The issue is the heat is concentrated in a smallish area so it is not suitable for heating a large room. It should be fine for a bedroom.
The reason why you get huge electricity bills is not the heater but the user. If the thermostat is decent then it will modulate the power and to maintain the set temperature as efficiently as any electric heater. Obviously, if you use it in a large room or leave it on full power, it will never to reach the set temperature and chew up 2kW every hour.
I think it's unfair writing the heater off. I use a similar one to heat up my room for 15 minutes before I go to bed which is only about $0.12 worth of electricity.
It uses more power to heat than a reverse cycle air conditioner, yet is less effective in doing so (per kW used). See this article.
The air conditioner is at least 3 times as efficient as an electric heater
Of course reverse cycle is not an option for everyone. I have used Halogen heaters when I was renting, which I found more cost-efficient if I am only trying to heat myself (not a whole room).
but these heaters are much much cheaper to buy than a reverse cycle Ac, so the argument is actually a spurious lie on economics.
These things should come with a warning label to let people know that it costs over $0.50/hour to run them.
Luckily, the world hasn't become so mollycoddled that we are forced to print labels like that on products.
Common sense. Use It!
I have known many people who don't know how to calculate power consumption/cost, and received huge bills due to heaters like this
This is the way of the world - similar to Darwin's Theory.
In this instance, it's not life threatening - but simply a tax on stupidity.
Horribly inefficient
Not at all. These are actually almost 100% efficient.
Consider this in the context of homeless people sleeping in the streets, and people overseas who are refugees and wars and whatever.
50 Cents per hour to heat your home = 1st World Problem.
See my link above. A reverse cycle airconditioner gets about 3kW of heat out of 1kW of electricity. So if an electric fan heater is 100% efficient, then a reverse cycle aircon is 300% efficient. Are you sure you should talk about tax on stupidity?
If you are so concerned about homeless people, then you are probably aware that many of them end up on the street due to difficulty in managing finance and understanding expenses. Hence my original comment about creating awareness of how much these things cost to run.
See my link above. A reverse cycle airconditioner gets about 3kW of heat out of 1kW of electricity.
I don't need to see your link. All of us have equal access to information.
If stupid people wish to use electric fan heaters, why do you feel it is your responsibility to teach them?
It's common sense that electricity costs money, surely?
Hence my original comment about creating awareness of how much these things cost to run.
No matter how hard you try, you can't cure stupid people from stupidity.
EVERY SINGLE person who buys electricity knows how much it costs. They know this because they are buying it.
Your posts to "inform people" that using an electric heater will cost money for electricity are about as effective as posting warnings to inform truck drivers that trucks use a lot of fuel.
To me, it's "like DERRRR" :-D
@llama: No one is buying that you have superior intelligence based on what you just wrote in the two posts above. It's like a child informing you about how smart they are because they think they're smart - and then saying DERRRRR to justify it.
No one is buying that you have superior intelligence based on what you just wrote in the two posts above
It's not me who's claiming superior intelligence.
My posts are a sarcastic objection to certain OTHER people assuming that the general population has such inferior intelligence that…
These things should come with a warning label to let people know that it costs over $0.50/hour to run them.
Capisce?
Love the orange but rugging-up & good insulation all-around (including under doors) is the only long-term solution for me. Bye-bye wasteful heaters.
Of course not using one won't take away the 400+ dollars per year we pay just to be connected to an electricity supply.
http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/backgroundbrief… The only long-term solution here is going off-grid.And fridge? Washing machine? Dish washer? Hot water? Lot more needed to go off grid than just ditching a heater
Lot more needed to go off grid than just ditching a heater
Agree. I made no claim that only ditching a heater will get you off-grid.
Merely suggested that going off-grid is a solution to those (ridiculous) daily supply charges.I'm probably halfway there now though. My washing machine, as I found out, only uses a little power, but it's the startup current that requires a decent inverter. There are alternatives to your regular washing machine though. I am starting to investigate them.
I don't use a dish washer, so no problems there. Hot water is a 'big one' so is the fridge, but there are efficient fridges around and there are also those with huge PV arrays (or solar hot water) that miss out on nothing. Others reduce their demands without a huge change. I think the first steps should be becoming efficient as possible and reducing silly waste & then to build a system with info from your energy use.
No AGL or Jemena executives profited from this post.
https://www.agl.com.au/about-agl/who-we-are/executive-team
http://www.energymatters.com.au/renewable-news/off-grid-aust…💥💥💥Used to happily live off grid for many years (even while lecturing at Uni in IT). The intellectual challenges make it intetesting 💡 💡 💡
Most people "can't survive" without their energy hungry fridge.
Watch My Stuff (was on SBS) for doco of living without in a cold climate - it didn't work out. Difficult unless you are near markets or only eat take away, & easier for non-meat eaters. I've done it when I was vegetarian.Dishwasher - I've heard of those…
Going Deep with David Rees (SBS) last night looked at efficient dish washing (by hand wins), along with making toast.Washing machines have their place - ask a busy mother! (Used to throw clothes in bucket of sudsy water on necessary drives on windy country roads - it works, with rinse cycle on return trip.)
But there are simple, cheap solutions to keep warm rather than using a heater.
I haven't used one since I was a child, but bought one last night for very limited use (about 30 minutes/wk only for a few months/yr) for an elderly relative while being bathed by a carer. Finding another suitable solution wasn't worth the effort.
I don't even have hot water in the city (quotes for replacement were around $2000, plus $350/yr electricity), just using a 20l solar camping shower (free find) plus a bit of boiled water to bring it up to a good bath temperature on cloudy winter days.
Only downside - its my bath time now, as the temperature is at its maximum now ;-) 35C today, brought up to 42-43C - for the perfect Japanese style bath (without all the water).
Don't think many would want that, but that's the cheapest, simplest solution at the moment. Upgrading to a basic black painted tank next.
Have halved hot water electricity costs in colder weather. Expect next to no cost in Summer.
Ah, bath time 🛁
Original price $25 on shelf last night. Personally I did not like the look of orange fan out of the box. Wouldn't think this is a great deal, considering other options.
Bunnings have a lot to choose from, including a tiny $15 Arlec ceramic model.
Not really a bargain…?
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Unless you particularly like the look of this orange one, other ones are cheaper and/or more powerful wattage.