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@fatice
Thank you for your feedback.
The product we have listed is a TP-Link Archer D7 and not the D9.
Thanks
DR
i agree with @fatice, also they stated both the d7 and the d9.
bandwidth management on the D7 is fairly poor, i noticed the d7 start to lose wifi signal strength within the first six months then after around 1.5 years couldn't hold a connection with my ISP for more then a few seconds. Also the web interface is really bad, sometimes it takes about three refreshes before the page is properly loaded.
So are we saying that D7 only has 6 month useful life?
@P3aker: Ive had the D5 model (pretty much the same as the D7) for well over a year now and have no such issues. Perhaps there are other factors involved or ur device is a dud (it happens). Try updating to latest firmware as well.
@Gavman: I have the D9 and am very happy with it. Bought it for the wireless performance with 100/40 NBN. No issues so far but can't comment on the QoS .
Ive had my D7 for about a year and a half and it's fine, can't report any issues
I think what @fatice and @P3aker are talking about are 2 separate things. Seems like @P3aker is having some connectivity issues. Doesn't sound like its got anything to do with QoS chances are the router isn't even then issue, could be his PC, or noice on his internet line etc..
@fatice is talking about the allocation of bandwidth that one can set but the device not managing correctly.
@P3aker: Oh ok. in that case I would try utilising the AC and N frequencies better and balancing the load that way rather than having everything on one frequency.
Thank you for your feedback.
Couldn't have said it better myself. There are many factors which can cause the issues they've mentioned.
At the end of the day, for the price point and usability, its a great product all round. Unless you require other, or extra features, i'd personally recommend other higher priced Routers.
DR
FYI It has a 3 year manufacturers warranty
Does the bandwidth management allow you to prioritize via device?
I bought one when they were a pretty new model. I don't think I have ever had problems with it.
We have a heap of devices connected via wifi and a playstation via power over ethernet.
I think over the time (at least 18 months I guess) I couldnt connect maybe half a dozen times, only seemed to be my laptop and a reboot of the laptop fixed it.
even wifi from laptop to a drive connected USB to router works fine, and the PS4 can play movies from it too. (so thats not isp related)
I like the parental controls as well, turn wifi off at certain times for my childs laptop.
@PVA:
I like the parental controls as well, turn wifi off at certain times for my childs laptop.
Thank you - came to ask this exact question
and because it is 2.4 and 5 gig, have different passwords for both, childs equipment can be on 2.4 and parental controld have it off at 10pm on and 6am , 5gig is on 24hours.
I think you can even do mac address.
I looked around back then for controls and of course a good price, this seemed to be the best combo I found.
Given the issues that you have highlighted, which router do you recommend to purchase in the similar or cheaper price range (if any on deal would be great)?
I didnt really understand that cos im a n00b so could you elaborate a little in layman's terms?
There's a setting (QoS) that allows you to prioritise traffic through the router, so you can make "Your TV" always have a good amount of bandwidth so you never have buffering issues with Netflix, and then set "Your PC" downloading a Windows Update to only use the remaining bandwidth.
Apparently the TP-Link doesn't do this task very well, so you end up with the TV being allocated all the bandwidth even though it only needs 70%. As a result your Windows Update doesn't download until you switch off the TV.
What if you connect your PC devices to the AC link and the TV to ur N link, would this manage the load beter?
Thanks for that
@Gavman:
QoS is completely different to WiFi capacity.
QoS uses rules to allocate bandwidth from the Internet connection to devices on the LAN irrespective of whether they are wired or WiFi.
WiFi capacity is managing LAN traffic only and as far as I'm aware the supplied bandwidth per device is shared evenly.
I have a weird issue where if I use skype or open up hotmail, my whole internet just goes down and I have to turn off the modem and turn it back on to make the internet work again.
Don't know if it's the D7 thinking I'm being hacked and then taking the whole network offline? Lol, any ideas? It's getting annoying.
@montorola
Thank you for your comment.
There are many factors which can cause this issue, id recommend if its not too much trouble, to either reset the router back to factory settings, or to update to the latest firmware available on the TP-Link website: http://www.tp-link.com.au/download/Archer-D7.html
DR
I don't know much about QoS algorithms, but during a time where I had very bad connectivity during peak hours (<1Mbps), my stereo could not maintain a pandora stream (128kbps) while using my D7. When I changed to my 2006 Netgear router (plugged as modem into D7 WAN port), it was able to maintain the stream, despite the bad connection. I contacted TP-Link support to ask why their modem appeared not as good as that of a much older Netgear, but they would not read my emails properly and kept asking questions which showed they did not have a clue.
All in all I am still happy with my D7, because it works well enough while my ADSL2 connection is "healthy". But the modem is not the best.
Agree, a few months ago bought the D7 router, the internet bandwidth and reliability issues didn't go away, decided to switch to iinet, still had issues, complained to them, was confident it was not my modem issue as I had this shinny D7, long story short after doing a lot of hit and trial attempts they sent me a free modem, problems solved, (didn't need to switch the ISPs but to a good modem and not D7), happy to sell mine for $80, any takers!
Would the price of this model (D7) ever come down? Bought it for $130 about 2 years ago.
@batrarobin
Thank you for commenting.
I'm really not too sure. From my experience, with a product like this, which is quite an all rounder perfect for any home or small office environment, at the current price point is already quite reasonable. I don't believe the price will drop dramatically and would generally hover around this price range.
PS: technically has gone down, by $2 hehe :)
DR
Aus Dollar dropped a lot in the past 2 years as well don't forget
@Gavman
Thank you for commenting.
Yes, you are correct, that can have a lot of impact on the price also.
DR
And SSD price has steadily going down as well. Seriously, when buying computer parts, don't be fooled by exchange rate because all of them, from RAM, HDD to router, all drop in price with time, just like Moore law.
sweet. i was going to grab one for $147(opened but unused) on saturday elsewhere. great timing :)
@nofighting
Thanks for commenting.
Glad we were able to save you some money :)
DR
Sorry if this is a stupid question. Does this router works with NBN? ADSL2 only requires PPPoE, not sure if NBN needs more.
It has a WAN port so I can't think of any reason why it wouldn't work with NBN.
I have the D9 and it works fine with NBN, you just need to switch it to "Wireless Router" mode (ie. don't do the quick setup). Don't see why the D7 would be any different.
D9 is a gem with fibre connection to the home.
No issues running multiple devices whatsoever :)
@MissKitty
Thank you for the great advice.
We have confirmed directly with TP-Link that this is 100% NBN Ready and the mode just needs to be adjusted to "Wireless Router" mode as you mentioned.
DR
Yeah it works, I have the NBN D7 setup.
@KutchAu
Thank you for your feedback.
Yes you are correct, this is NBN Ready, once you change the setting to "Wireless Router" Mode.
DR
Hi KutchAu, which ISP are you with?
I'm with Exetel, but all the information I found on the router said it should work with pretty much any NBN provider
@ausdday: It did take some playin around for me. I updated the firmware on mine so I can only speak about the new interface, but for me the following worked:
- Advanced settings tab —> Operation mode section —> Wireless Router Mode [as stated above by rep]
- Basic settings tab —> Internet section —> Mine is set to PPPoE (yep, for NBN) with username and password as outlined by ISP. Works fine for me. Other connection types in these options are Dynamic IP, Static IP, PPTP, L2TP. Not sure if that helps at all, but there it is!
Depends on your nbn supplier. I have optus and dodo nbn on at my address. Optus is able to use any router with a wan port. Dodo on the other hand needs authentication. You can't plug any router in and have it work straight away. A lot of settings need to be changed and dodo don't like to give out details.
On a side note, I'll be switching out from dodo as soon as the contract expires. Would prefer to use my own devices without having to debate with a tech assistant over the phone about releasing the settings information to me.
Won't work for FttN or FttB (unless you bridge it to the VDSL modem)
@ausdday
Thank you for your question, they are never stupid.
I just got off the phone with TP-Link, this is 100% NBN Ready, the setting you will need to adjust is "Wireless Router" mode for it to be compatible.
Judging by how you have to change it to "wireless router" mode, this simply implies you're bridging the NBN modem to the router to allow WiFi connectivity - this (I assume) means the router its self is NOT NBN READY and WILL NOT work as an NBN ROUTER. Basically this means the whole 'model' part of the router becomes useless.
However, as a standard router of similar specs is usually similarly priced, you're basically getting the modem part for free anyway - it's not overly a problem that (according to how you explain it) it's not NBN ready.
It's NBN ready if you have FttP…"
Since the vast majority of people who are going to get FttP already have FttP, I saying a Router is "NBN Ready" is deceptive at best!
Saying it's "100% NBN Ready" is an outright lie!
Thanks DavidRJW for the clarification. Currently I am with TPG, and the wireless router that I got from them needs Authentication (i.e. username and password) setup in the router. I am guessing my internet wont run if I set it up as wireless router mode (transparent / bypass mode), as mentioned by dyl. I will do more research before I pull the trigger. Thanks guys for the support though. Appreciate it.
@ausdday
Not a problem buddy. Happy to help.
DR
The D9 needs authentication for NBN in Wireless Router mode. I use PPPoE and am with TPG as well. It's fairly obvious in the router where this information needs to be entered. I think the "Wireless Router" mode just turns off the DSL modem part, which you don't need anyways.
Some modems are VDSL (FTTB/FTTN) ready at around the $150-170 price point with similar specs to this. If you're expecting (or have) VDSL NBN then that'd be your best option if you require a modem too.
As for FTTP, it'll work with this router hardware wise, though (as you mention too) I'm unsure about software (authentication/logging in/"connecting") wise. I'm quite certain wireless router mode won't work for this as that's more made for extending a local network wirelessly (not for connecting to an internet connection), it'll see there's a cable plugged in and be able to communicate via it, though without the correct software it won't be able to take the necessary steps to authenticate and connect. I'm unsure if TP-link has actual options beyond this specifically for connecting and authenticating FTTP connections.
Edit: according to above it DOES have the software to allow for authentication - meaning it should work with FTTP. Nothing indicating it'll work with VDSL (FTTN/FTTB) though, sadly.
Edit2: note that accoring to specs/information it doesn't support it though. It states that the router "supports connections from fiber/cable via an Ethernet cable (through the wan port)".
@dyl:
Hey thanks dyl. Currently I am in Darwin NT and as far as I know, NBN package up north has a UPS and VDSL modem installed when you sign up for the NBN. All I need is just a router connecting to the VDSL modem provided (which are screwed on the wall). I found some info about the setup after RTFM. Here are some texts from the manual:
DSL Modem Router Mode: The device enables multi-users to share Internet via ADSL using
its ADSL port and share it wirelessly at 1300Mbps wireless speeds over the crystal clear 5GHz
band and 450Mbps over the 2.4GHz band.
(Since this is a ADSL modem router, I believe this mode is used to enable the ADSL modem part of the D7. It's just going to establish the connection using the ADSL port on the D7.)
Wireless Router Mode: The device enables multi-users to share Internet via Ethernet WAN
(EWAN) using its interchangeable LAN4/WAN port and share it wirelessly at 1300Mbps
wireless speeds over the crystal clear 5GHz band and 450Mbps over the 2.4GHz band.
(I think this is the mode I am interested in. It basically ass-u-me that I have a modem, and just want to use the D7 as router. I believe this mode will try to establish connection using the WAN port instead of ADSL).
And there is another WAN page in the setup to configure the authentication of you WAN connection. It has PPPoE mode.
4.5.1 WAN Settings
Choose “Network”“WAN Settings”, and you will see the WAN Port Information Table in the
screen similar to Figure 4-3, which describes the WAN port settings and the relevant manipulation
to each interface. There are six different configurations for the connection types, which are Static
IP, Dynamic IP, PPPoE, PPPoA, IPoA and Bridge. You can select the corresponding types
according to your needs.
I guess this matches with that @MissKitty said previously.
Yep, it'll work perfectly as a wireless router when connected via the WAN port to a VDSL modem.
Edit: Btw, not heard anything about receiving a UPS with NBN plans… Do you have any information about this? Unless it's for the phone line (maybe VDSL lines can't carry power for your phone like ADSL lines) I don't understand why it'd come with a UPS??
Edit2: Checked website. A UPS is included, and I was right - NBN connections don't carry power like ADSL lines. It's to ensure the phone line stays powered and you can stay connected in the event of a power outage.
Edit3: (more edits lol) turns out the page I was reading is for actual FTTP NBN, not for FTTN/FTTB. I'm not sure VDSL requires a UPS… It wouldn't make much sense as the phone line uses a separate part of the cable - existing phone line services (which ARE powered) would continue to work.
@dyl:
FttP has an (now optional) inbuilt battery for the Uni-V port.
Existing phone service will cease to exist 18 months after activation of an area.
FttN areas presumably will need to have some sort of UPS/backup battery hooked up to their VDSL modem in order to maintain a DSL connection and subsequently maintain a VoIP phone service that will replace the old telephone system.
Nodes have batteries, but they would be there to provide backup power (and possibly power conditioning) to the node itself. The copper will be dead unless there is an active VDSL modem to complete the circuit.
Great modem, bought one a month ago for $158. Is NBN ready I believe.
USB 2.0 port is a deal breaker…
I am assuming you wish to use a external hard disk as a NAS. The USB ports on these are mainly set up as print server, but you can use it for hard disks. I would recommend a standard NAS for this sort of thing.
I have an external HDD set up like this on my D7 through the USB. Works fine as far as i can tell, although for some reason when i reboot my PCs they seem to "forget" the drive exists until i go to access it in windows explorer. Not sure why that is (even downloading a torrent to that dir will fail and say invalid drive until you open the drive once in explorer, then it's fine)
hmm, I dont know what I did then but I don't have that problem - used in win8 and now win10.
Eh?
The read/write speed of the router is probably easily saturated by USB2 so USB 3 would be completely pointless.
Buy a NAS if you want good file transfer speeds over a LAN.
maybe, but I stream movies off the drive attached to that port, downstairs to the PS4. So is fast enough for what I do.
even have an app on our phones so as soon as we get home that phones photos are backed up to that drive.
Hi DavidRJW,
I just placed an order but my Paypal payment timed out.
Order Number is 15548. Could you please check if payment went through. If not, what's the best way to complete the payment (phone the pick-up store)?
Thanks
@1bug
Thank you for commenting.
There is no Payment in paypal under the order number mentioned.
Ill contact the store for you on your behalf, and have one of our store representatives call you today, and advise on the best form of action.
DR
Thanks DavidRJW.
I just refreshed the browser screen and redid the payment. Payment has now gone thru.
@1bug
I can confirm, your payment has now been received.
Thanks for the support.
DR
If anyone has an older D7 I recommend updating your firmware (if you're not up to date). The new interface and Androidd/iOS app is a breeze to use.
@corbz
Appreciate the advice.
DR
i havent lookefor a long time, theres been two firmware updates since I last looked a long time ago.
any pics of the interface anywhere?
Got this model a year ago… Can vouch for it.
@Cricket
Thank you for vouching, and i like your username.
DR
If i was to purchase this, would the router be bottlenecked due to the modem? (I'm with cable bigpond, therefore a modem is required)
I'm not certain what you're asking, but no, there's not really any scenario that I can think of where the router would be bottlenecked by the modem.
That said, you could probably just wait for the C7 to go on special (the modem-less equivalent of the D7) and buy that.
It's usually $10 - $15 cheaper from memory.
Without sounding stupid, I'm still confused as to why you would need a modem when this device acts as one?
The cable has different connection port coaxial, that's why op can either use the provider modem as modem only and use D7 as router or, op can use original model and use it as bridge mode. In short, D7 does not have connection for cable internet.
Can also vouch for tp link warranty.. great service. Would definitely buy another tp link again.
@hippyhippy
Thank you for the vouch.
How can you go wrong with 3 Years manufacturers warranty?
DR
Just a quick heads up guys. This router DOES NOT support NBN FTTN (FTTN needs a VDSL compatible router)
So if you will be getting FTTN shortly I would refrain from buying this router
But it will support FTTP?
Yes it has a WAN port so it will support FTTP
Cool, thank you
how about HTTP?
Is it VOIP compatible? ie. Can i simply plug a phone into it and that's it?
no
Bugger.
You could also buy a separate VoIP ATA device, or buy a dedicated VoIP handset (I bought the Siemens Gigaset, works well).
Hey rep,
Any chance of a similar deal for the C7?
@Malboro Man
Thank you for commenting.
I've just spoken to our Senior Ordering Manager, we can't secure a similar price for the C7 just yet, but we will keep everyone posted if this changes.
DR
I don't suppose something like this could be used as a range extender or repeater?
It could mate, but it's an expensive option. Plenty of cheap $50ish extenders out there.
hi rep - have you ever sold fritz box's ?
or can you suggest something with similar all round features in a similar price bracket?
I need modem / router (keen on AC not just N) / voip
Any deals on the ASUS DSL-AC68U?
I second this request for a deal on the DSL-AC68U if possible. Now that we require a VDSL modem for FttN NBN, I've decided this is the the modem I'll go for to replace my dead Billion 7800N.
lol, exact same situation I'm in!
I have a old Netgear Wireless-N DGN2200, does anyone think this (TP-Link Archer D7) might be a better option?
Would like to update as Ive had this for a few years now. I do like the fact that the netgear has 4 wireless profiles.
I used to own dgn2000. It's was a major piece of crap. Regularly dropped out. I got the d5 model which is pretty much the same as this one but cheaper in term of internet speed and stability. However this would be a good option for the price.
Price aside, the TPLink D7, D9 has poor QoS algorithm. Using similar bandwidth management settings, my old DrayTek can shape the background download instantly when web/youtube is started. But TPLink provides very poor foreground traffic speed.
I am considering selling my 3 months old D9.