Looking for some options to hear for best value fish you guys think for pan fry, grill etc. We buy Salmon once in couple of week but its too expensive so switched over to Baramundi and Pompret. Found Pompret to be very good but rare to find in market.
Best Value Fish
anonymoususer on 31/03/2016 - 22:04
Last edited 31/03/2016 - 22:05
Last edited 31/03/2016 - 22:05
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Yeah, buy a boat :)
Now seriously - start lure fishing - no bait on-going costs.
That sounds too complicated for me haha
Blue grenadier is a great white fish for frying etc. Depends on cost. I also get flathead.
Goldfish
Do you have that grilled or fried?
Just dont touch BASA. Worst ever. Vietnamese catfish - farmed in the same waters that cement is dumped into.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6N2SX51d7wPersonally I think the best value are red spot whiting. They are small and sweet. From Qld (I'm in Sydney). My local fishmonger sells them for about $6/kg. Between my wife and I we eat about 10 (~400g). I also love whole bream or small snapper, usually around the $12/kg mark.
They aren't fillets though, whole fish. Apart from that, there are the prized fish such as the John Dory fillets (extremely tasty) or stick to the barramundi (relatively low taste).
Aus doesnt import the poo river basa… But its watery shit anyway.. You can buy I&J premium fillets in 5kg box $25 though so its cheap.
I've never seen Basa that is not a product of vietnam… It'd be a first - can you show that it's not from vietnam?
Buy fresh australian fish only. No imported stuff, not even from New Zealand as they just repackage it there and you do not know where it is coming from.
If you buy whole fish it is much cheaper than fillets. Just bake it whole in the oven or wrap it in alfoil and put on the bbq.
Very limited wastage that way.You can buy Hoki from NZ. This is from their own waters, unlike the fruit and veg stuff when is of questionable source
Tell me please where I can buy fresh australian fish. I mean fresh, not a woolworth-fresh. The local fish markets are usually re-selling imported fish. Flathead from South America Lol.
Depending where you are. You have to find a fresh seafood shop around you (it may be difficult in smaller towns and inland). Usually in the chinese areas you can find good prices too. Then you just learn how to spot fresh fish. That is why I buy whole fish (more difficult to tell once filleted). With some experience you can tell …smell, look, flesh bounce when pressed, etc. I just use a plastic bag as a glove and pick the fish I want. Normally they clean (gutt and scale) it for you otherwise you make a mess at home.
If nothing looks good I do not buy.Any particular suggestions for Sydney? Actually I found a local seafood shop with reasonably fresh fish however 2-3kg of fish there costs as much as decent fishing charter LOL.
@savit:
Sorry I am in Brisbane.
2-3 kg of fish…? How many people are you feeding? That is enough for 8-10 people!
Unfortunately fish is a lot more expensive than chicken or mince ;-).
I am on holidays in Sunshine Coast right now and having beautiful fresh prawns for lunch and whole fish for dinner every day.
Costing a fortune…but worth every $. You only live once…@maxi:
What I meant is that for the price of those 2-3 kilos I could have a fishing charter with half day of fun and fish.
I used to buy fish at West End market on Saturdays. Good choice but not much fresh. Lol I still miss bugs skewers from Bongaree seafood store.@savit: Sorry mate. South or outer-inner west, no worries. But not much luck there. Was talking to a friend today who lives in your area complaining about the price of fish!
is the barramundi Australian?
Just choose the cheapest Australian fish woolies or coles has. Or NZ Hoki is cheap.
I think Snapper is great value and great tasting too.
Dont buy Basa.Go Hoki (blue grenadier)
That's caught wild in the clean waters near NZ. Very well priced also.
I usually get Hoki. I love barramundi, but they sell for $25 per kg at woolies, and Hoki (with Skin on) sells for $10 a bag at Aldi.
While it is more than half the price, it's not as tasty so some clever seasoning will be required.
Flathead. Underrated fish.
Barramundi? I used to LOVE that fish until i realized 99% of Barramundi sold here in AUS is farmed, and the majority of the 99% comes from dirty Vietnamese waters
Hoki is good-tasting and in most cases as its not farmed. However the fish itself dosnt look appetizing and I find it a little disgusting in the natural form =) It's usually what you get in the Fillet O Fish
I heard someone say Aldi Basa, or Basa. Leave that to the people of Vietnam as it's farmed there and it's basically a type of Catfish that eats anything. NFI how and why Australia allows it into our markets, bunch of retards
Try Snapper and Trevalli, they're salt water fish and generally taste good. Snapper can get a little dry so don't over fry
Salmon, all sold here in AUS is basically farmed.
I hope you realise that aquaculture is the only reason our oceans haven't been completely gutted by over-fishing.
Here come the scientists and the experts with their 2c comments and immediate down-voting because my comments don't fit their narrow-minded agenda.
There's no such thing as Over-fishing, seawater covers 70% of the earth surface. What's actually impacting fish levels are 2 things:
- Fisher trawling which pick up all sorts of sea life, that ultimately die in the process (seahorses, edible fish, inedible fish, baby fish, eggs, squid, )
- The targeting of 1 fish species e.g. Bluefin Tuna for the Asian markets
If our fish was all caught by Line & Pole, we wouldnt have that issue.
Lol and we would need ALOT more people fishing.
That's fine, employing more people in return for not damaging an entire ecosystem sounds fine to me. There's enough unemployed people in Australia only, to fulfill the quota champ.
There's no such thing as Over-fishing
Wow.
If our fish was all caught by Line & Pole, we wouldnt have that issue.
It's not, and it will never be. There is too much global demand for fish, and too much economic incentive for trawling for commercial fishermen to return to the good o' days. If you think this will happen, you're deluded, and get used to paying a lot more for your line and pole caught fish.
There's enough unemployed people in Australia only, to fulfill the quota champ.
Yeah. That's a great idea! Round up all the unemployed people in Australia and press-gang them onto a boat. Why hasn't any other country but North Korea attempted this? Brilliant.
@Strand0410: You sure know how to dissect my statements to create false statements, "There's no such thing as Over-fishing" you should continue to read the narrative, which ultimately suggests that if fishing was done properly, there will be no such thing as over-fishing. (sigh)
It's not, and it will never be. There is too much global demand for fish, and too much economic incentive for trawling for commercial fishermen to return to the good o' days
I'm not deluded, I totally understand that greed dominates the world, however Aquaculture is not helping anything if the trawling continues. It's a band-aid solution to eating affordable fish.
@Strand0410: Doesn't have to be press-ganged. People on the dole would be given options to go work on the sea whilst being paid. Helps the economy and themselves.
@Strand0410: lol I like that idea, Mr Brown has been on unemployment for 120 days. Send him fishing for a year then we will see how long he doesnt have a job.
Earning or fishing.
@frostman: Trawling is here to stay, and for all intents and purposes, is now synonymous with commercial fishing, so virtually every ecologist on the planet will argue against a statement like ' there's no such thing as over-fishing.'
Aquaculture is not helping anything if the trawling continues. It's a band-aid solution to eating affordable fish.
No it won't, and it's still not meeting global demand; but as we improve farming techniques and economies of scale, it will eventually become more economical and sustainable to obtain fish through farming than trawling increasingly depleted wild fish stock. It's analogous to the meat industry producing beef far more affordably, and in a scale that we never could, than hunting wild cattle.
People on the dole would be given options to go work on the sea whilst being paid.
Exactly how many unemployed are you going to convince to enlist in a low-paying, thankless, and miserable job like trawling?
lol I like that idea, Mr Brown has been on unemployment for 120 days. Send him fishing for a year then we will see how long he doesnt have a job
Great straw man theory
Trawling is here to stay, and for all intents and purposes, is now synonymous with commercial fishing (by volume)
None of my statements above alluded to the fact that I see a colourful day where trawling is abolished.
Go back to your original statement:
I hope you realise that aquaculture is the only reason our oceans haven't been completely gutted by over-fishing.
You now recognize that the TRUE root cause of the the "gutted" sea ecosystem, is the trawling. Aquaculture is not a preventative incentive to boost it, it's a REACTIVE scheme. So back to my statement, Pole and Line is the answer, not the band-aid Aquaculture.
None of my statements above alluded to the fact that I see a colourful day where trawling is abolished.
Pole and Line is the answer, not the band-aid Aquaculture.
No, it's not an answer because it's a delusional pipe-dream. No country with a vested interest in trawling is going back to pole and line, no fishing company is going to torpedo its profit, no fisherman is going to destroy their livelihood by fishing less, and the world is now addicted to cheap fish. It's like 'solving' climate change by telling people to use horse and buggies when the genie is already out of the bottle; we're not going back. Aquaculture is a reaction to the world as it is, not how you wish it to be.
No, it's not an answer because it's a delusional pipe-dream
There are multiple Seafood marketing companies that have already switched to Pole & Line fishing so that makes your argument above quite a weak one.
Most of John West's canned Tuna now is Pole & Line caught, they actually go the extra mile to state this given they know that most people have a greater sentiment to eating sustainable caught fish than fish caught in a 4km Net.
Greenseas also have followed through and I believe Sirena has too. These are 3 large players in the canned fish industry that reel in more fish than your average Joe's Seafood around the corner whose sourced his fish from a few farms in Tasmania.@frostman: You're talking tuna, where a single line can land hundreds of kilos of fish, it is not economically feasible in many other smaller fish species. Of course there will be companies continuing to fish this way because aquaculture still accounts for about half of global fish harvest, i.e. wild fish has plateaued. Those companies also have the luxury of picking low-hanging fruit in relatively unspoiled waters; most countries do not have a combination of customers who can afford a premium, small population, and long coastline. Try telling China or Japan to exclusively long-line fish, and see how long it takes for people to starve.
"I hope you realise that aquaculture is the only reason our oceans haven't been completely gutted by over-fishing."
How many kg of fish meal does it take to produce 1kg of farmed fish?
Depends upon quality + % crude protein of feed. Ultimately, same argument can be made for any other type of farming. It takes orders of magnitude mroe biomass to produce each unit of beef, but humans don't consume forage, i.e. we turn a resource we don't directly use into one we can. No one's under any illusion that beef production on the scale it is today, would be impossible without farming. We also don't eat fish meal.
electricbluee, did you try carp?
marinara mix for $9/kg put on skewers squirt of lemon & on the weber a couple of seconds.
Flathead has low mercury content and is not too expensive.
You are the second to say flathead…. its like $40 a kg in Vic! (Lovely sweet fish though!)
$18/kg in Brisbane as whole fish.
Beautiful baked. Great smoked if you have a smoker.
Edit…if you can get over how ugly it looks it is really nice.
Any else here tried Pompret?
The pomfret I have seen is normally imported from Malaysia or Thailand. Therefore frozen. Who knows how the freezing temperature has been maintained over there…and during the long trip…?
Unless you mean the Dart (australian pomfret). It is not a bad fish when really fresh. I think it needs to be be cleaned very soon after it has been caught though.Agree completely. Dart(fish) - rubbish by itself. Really needs to bleed out upon capture for it to be at least half decent
As mentioned the frozen Hoki is a nice fish, frozen skin on fillets caught in NZ are $10 at Aldi.
That's about as cheap as I would go.
One of my favourite fish is whole steamed Murray Cod… not that cheap nor expensive.
I see people mention flat head, beautiful fish for deep frying / fish and chips… not cheap.
How much are you paying for salmon fillets ?
The farmed salmon is pricey per kg, but a little goes a long way.
One piece adds colour and flavour to a family meal. Add to hoki.
Or even basa - its not as bad as people make out. Healthier than a lot of alternatives. Just don't use it for sushi :-)My local sells salmon whole at $14/kg and he cleans and fillets them…
I use the belly portions for salmon steaks about 200 grams per serve
The tail or thinner end I steam or grill
Bones and head goes to making a fish stock which is eventually turned into a clam or seafood chowder..
A typical fish would weigh in about 5 kilosI get about 10-12 servings of steaks and about 4 thinner pieces for grilling or steaming..
Go fishing and spend more $ on the bait than what the fish is worth :')