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Seagate Backup Plus & Expansion 4TB Portable HDD USB 3.0 US $117.22 (~AU $153) Delivered @ Amazon

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I believe it's the cheapest it has ever been.

$38.25 per TB not bad!

Seagate Backup Plus 4TB Portable External Hard Drive with 200GB of Cloud Storage USB 3.0, Red (STDR4000902)

200GB of free OneDrive cloud storage for 2 years is included when you register a new Backup Plus drive ($95US value)
After registering your drive on Seagate.com, a link will be provided to add 200GB to any new or existing OneDrive account
Only one offer can be redeemed per OneDrive account, offers must be activated by June 30, 2017 and may not be available in all countries
Create easy customized backup plans with included Seagate Dashboard software
Backup your mobile device photos and videos automatically with the Lyve App
Quick file transfer with USB 3.0 connectivity
USB powered -no power supply necessary

Seagate 4TB Expansion Portable HDD

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  • -1

    is this 2x 2tb's squeezed together and Raided?

    • +4

      No, this is a single 15mm drive. The dual 9.5mm drives is Backup Plus 4GB Fast.

      • +2

        Are you sure its a 15mm sata drive inside? Have you seen any details on it or one similar?
        My home server can take 15mm drives (i have some SAS in it now that fits fine) i just want to confirm before i buy it.
        Do you know its its SMR or not?
        Thanks.

        Edit. Appears to be the ST4000LM016 disk which is 15mm and has mixed reports of being SMR and PMR.
        Most evidence points it to being PMR which seems pretty amazing at this price point.

        Another Edit: Ordered :)

    • +2

      I think that is the "fast" model, which is more expensive.
      The fast model is the one that has been around for awhile with 2x 2tb samsung laptop drives RAID'd together.
      This is a newer cheaper model so possibly a new 4tb singular samsung laptop drive

  • +5

    Wow awesome price. If only I needed another external HDD…

  • +3

    How would this drive cope if I ripped it out and put it in my 24-7 home server?

    • +17

      It'd probably feel torn apart

      • +1

        Gotta keep 'em separated…

        • +1

          Hey man you disrespecting me?

  • +1

    tempted, but reconsidered. The whole spelling of 'lyve' turned me off. it's not kewl ceegayte

  • Thanks. Got one.

  • Had very bad experience with Seagate, they refused to replace a faulty extHDD bought through amazon within warranty unless I paid for shipment. Also, the mobile backup through wifi would never work. Bigger problem is, where do you put your data when you're sending the faulty unit back?

    Took me 4 months of arguing through email (have all the evidence). Finally their supervisor called from Singapore and organised a new one to be sent so the data could be transferred over before sending it back. I really wanted my money back so I could buy a WD.

    Now I'm stuck with the replacement Seagate, I use it very carefully and only once a week at least because sometimes it doesn't eject, you have to ensure nothing is being backed up, or any directories in use. If you shutdown the computer to unplug, or do anything to force eject while it's still running, your data is gone. Then you have to scan and fix the disk, which takes ALL night….

    I'm not sure if WD are the same, but I will check out a company's return policy before ever buying again.

    • +2

      Seagate is pretty terrible. Had multiple backup drives (external, powered) fail. Pickup WD or HGST if possible, the latter is probably the best.

    • Bigger problem is, where do you put your data when you're sending the faulty unit back?

      You back it up! If you don't have a backup the data is clearly not worth anything.

      Had very bad experience with Seagate,
      organised a new one to be sent so the data could be transferred over before sending it back.

      Why should they send you an advance replacement? Sheesh some people expect way way too much.

      Now I'm stuck with the replacement Seagate, I use it very carefully and only once a week at least because sometimes it doesn't eject, you have to ensure nothing is being backed up, or any directories in use. If you shutdown the computer to unplug, or do anything to force eject while it's still running, your data is gone. Then you have to scan and fix the disk, which takes ALL night….

      Sounds like the issue is with the way you have things setup not with the drive itself.

      • You need a backup drive to backup the data, where do you put the data when the faulty extHDD needs to be replaced? In other words, the extHDD IS the backup

        If you can answer the above question, you answer why there is onus to send replacement in advance, in order to return the faulty extHDD. Very reasonable expectation.

        Seagate technical staff troubleshooted the faulty extHDD step by step with me, then recommended warranty replacement. Meaning [quote]"Sounds like the issue is with the way you have things setup not with the drive itself,"[/quote] is an erroneous conclusion, try again

        • +1

          You need a backup drive to backup the data, where do you put the data when the faulty extHDD needs to be replaced? In other words, the extHDD IS the backup

          One external drive is not a backup, backup to offsite storage or another drive.

          If you can answer the above question, you answer why there is onus to send replacement in advance, in order to return the faulty extHDD. Very reasonable expectation.

          Utter rubbish and your wonder why your warranty claim was so difficult when you demanded an advanced replacement. It's not Seagate's job to sort out your failure to backup your data safely.

          Seagate technical staff troubleshooted the faulty extHDD step by step with me, then recommended warranty replacement. Meaning [quote]"Sounds like the issue is with the way you have things setup not with the drive itself,"[/quote] is an erroneous conclusion, try again

          So why are you having problems with your new drive? The drive has been replaced but your computer still has problems….

        • -2

          @Maverick-au: 1) So you're suggesting to buy two extHDD because one is unreliable. If that one was reliable, a second extHDD is unneeded. and 2) companies assembling and selling backup drives IS their job to sort out safe backup of data. So the suggestion in 1) and the reasoning in 2) are both a bit distorted in logic.

          3) the replacement drive still has problem because Seagate make problem drives!

          Why try to keep defending an opinion that is unreasoned?

      • +1

        ^ This.
        Sorry if it's not popular, but unless you have 2-3 copies, you're not adequately covered against failure/s.

        People scream blue murder when they lose "priceless" photos/data, but won't spend $100 and a simple routine on ensuring it never happens.

        Start with a handful of retired/hand-me-down laptop drives, at least.

        • -3

          So you're suggesting to buy a 2nd extHDD because the 1st is unreliable. Then buy a 3rd extHDD because the 1st and 2nd are unreliable. That's continuing the problem for oneself with homunculus fallacy!

          If the 1st was reliable, the 2nd and 3rd extHDD are unneeded

        • +1

          @Entropist: the fact is that they should all be relatively similar in terms of reliability. A backup can fail just the same as your primary drive can. Unless you buy a higher grade of hard drive, then don't have unrealistic expectations that your backup should never fail because if that were the case, you would just use the backup drive in the first place!

        • +4

          @Entropist:
          Because of the unreliable nature of mechanical hard drives across all brands not just seagate, this has created the need for good backup policy to consist of 3 separate copies. This is often done as primary, secondary and offline, or online offline and offsite, etc. Or you could as you said buy a second backup hard drive to mirror the first, but this wont protect you against fire/theft etc if it is stored in the same place. Cloud backup is a good alternative to this but sucks unless you have NBN.

          You ranting and raving and making up your own logic to try and justify your own lack of understanding on the topic is just making you look stupid. Yes it would be nice if drives have 100% reliability. But none of them do.

        • -2

          @atlas: Where's the logic in this argument that disproves my point? The primary drive works, and gets full, hence why a bigger extHDD is needed to transfer data to in order to free up the primary drive! That's a very normal expectation

          Do you buy two or three phones so that when you know one fails, you have the data backed up to the 2nd phone? And when the 2nd phone fails, you have the same data backed up to the 3rd phone? No more homunculus fallacy please

          Normal people just buy a microSD to backup your phone, just like an extHDD is bought to store computer data.

        • -2

          @Riczter: the weakness is this argument is assuming every manufacturer of harddrives is as bad as Seagate, but is unable to reason why purchase of multiple extHDDs could be logical practice. Such presumption is ridiculous and is called tu quoque fallacy for trying to somehow warrant the purchase of multiple drives because drives as bad as Seagate are purchased, presuming every drive is made just as bad.

          In actual fact, I've had other drives that have yet to fail once, and still use them for transferring small select amounts of data to others like a big flash drive instead of bringing all of my data. Thats proper reasoning and justification, try and use it next time.

        • +1

          @Entropist: I don't even know where to start with all your misplaced frustration and/or passion. There are 1000's of sites, and millions of IT professionals you can argue with.

          Drop, slip, bump, power, jiggle, blink… Anything… The best quality device, and you can kill it. Dumb luck. $400+ to attempt recovery of mech/tech failure.

          So pick the best "spinning rust", and just hope not one of the countless tiny interactions & connections, nor bit-rot doesn't damage your priceless data… To save <$100. Ignorance won't save you.

          Put simply, never put all your eggs in one basket. Human error. Murphy's Law, too. Systematic failure happens with all tech, brands, models, industries… Starting with one weak piece made to minimum standards by the lowest bidder. NASA suffer, despite world-leading efforts.

          A 100 copies system will still failure somewhere, at some point. But it's beyond reality & budget for 99.99% of people. A 3 copy solution is peanuts, and the cost:benefit ratio is insanely in the owner's favour.

          I've spent more effort here than that. This was wasted effort.

        • @Entropist: if you consider a microsd a backup for your phone then great. Don't come crying when you lose your phone.

        • -2

          @Utopian: For the very reasons you put forward explain why companies like Seagate make bad extHDD. so the point and solution is to choose a manufacturer that knows how to design and build the hardware and the software.

          maybe people are focused on risk vs hazard. i am focused on quality manufacturing. quality outperforms quantities of junk any day, as evidenced by people like myself that had single extHDD, and only upgraded to a larger capacity when the data was unable to fit anymore.

          @atlas: microSD are just extended space, the point made is if the phone fails, you can take the microSD and put into another phone, not buy a 2nd and 3rd phone just in case the phone fails. homunculus thinking is a fallacy, you reason ad infinitum like circular reasoning.

          buying multiple extHDDs because of poor quality is completely different to stocking up on multiple running shoes. both cases eventuate to wear and tear. however, the point is, when you wear a running shoe and it immediately breaks, analogous to an extHDD that doesn't do what is promised. this is poor quality product.

          you see car servicing that provide hire cars at no additional cost, or loan phones while your phone is being repaired. a replacement extHDD in advance to transfer your data while the faulty one is returned is very reasonable.

        • @Entropist: Certain companies offering an added service for "free" doesn't equate to all companies in all industries.

          You want stuff that never dies. Doesn't exist. So when it does die you want full service, and a cheap price. Okay. They pay for recovery & freight both ways, too? Please advise who you get that from, and how it's fair to pollute this deal with the expectation.

          Everything is built to a price. And as much as i prefer other companies to Seagate, each manufacturer makes different price/quality options.

          Even mission-critical items fail. Politely, you're living in a dreamworld.

        • @Utopian: and neither does a company like Seagate, manufacturing and distributing poorly designed and built products, doesn't "homunculusly" equate to all companies and all industries, too warrant multiple purchases of an item as a backup to a backup ad infinitum.

          when a product fails to deliver the performance it's claimed, the onus is on the supplier, not the consumer, otherwise known as consumer law.

          for example, ford advertise hire cars while your car is being serviced. telstra used to or maybe still do provide loan phones while your phone is being repaired.

          everything is built to a delivered expectation of performance, failure to deliver owes duty to compensate. these personal experiences seek to warn users about risks of purchasing from Seagate products, and through amazon. look for a good and reliable extHDD, its advice as a courtesy to save people from an unpleasant experience. avoid giving money to support the bad business and manufacturing practices

        • @Entropist: Guessing you got a discount on "homunculus".
          You have an grossly broken understanding of consumer law, if you think you are auto-entitled to brand new, free return shipping, and new in-advance,any compensation of any sort at your discretion. Point-blank, wrong.
          You've ignored all points from any user. Instead, putting full faith into any company without the Seagate badge… Judging all experience, expertise, quality, potential, practices on one example of something that happens with ALL brands, and you expected service above & beyond you legal rights for it. None of which will replace dead data.
          Your plan of putting all eggs in one basket goes against all human wisdom.
          As before, again… Please advise who offers all you expect, and how you decided that.

        • -1

          @Utopian: if opinions are unable to be backed up with reasoning, there's space off the forums for such a practice, as in with a homunculus. if instead there is reasoning able to support your intentions, please provide them for scrutiny.

          everyone is entitled to free speech, but no one is entitled to opinions unable to be reasoned. hence why unsupported points aren't received, and even the weakness of the unsupported points conveyed for the opinionator to address. if there is any unsupported reasoning, please specifically highlight for me to address. meaning, the ball is in your court

          consumer law states accountability to ensure a working product as claimed. be aware of laws made to protect justice of the people because not all laws are about justice.

        • -1

          @Entropist: Come back to society. Instead of all that babble, you could've replied to even one of the many valid points. You've not supplied a single backed-up point, funny that, back-up discussion. But it doesn't help your F.U.D.

          Heck, just for laughs… How about you start with even just quoting consumer law that supports your expectations. It doesn't exist, at all. So I look forward to more pointless babble instead. Master the basics, first. Long road ahead.

          I've worked in IT support on/off for 25 years. Studied consumer law, rights, standards, guidance & tolerances. You're not even close to what you should quote.

        • -2

          @Utopian: make efforts to prove your assertions, and disprove the reasoning you disagree with; i.e., detail which specific point is unsupported by reason, and how they are unsupported; that's if your assertions have any validity, or simply a fallacy of 'accusing the mirror'

        • -1

          @Entropist: Still blocking your ears, cnot listening, not listening ".
          Your posts contain the claims. Attempting a false education, for fools. You've spread FUD, with nothing to back it up, no better solution, no facts, and no sound understanding. Now just babble. You're losing grasp with every reply.

        • -2

          @Utopian: when you scroll back up and re-read your replies, your appeal that because some people have multiple backups, is unable to reason that having multiple backups is correct. just in the way people thought the world was flat, or the centre of the universe, was found wrong. maybe people that do have multiple backups have been fooled by manufacturers to spend more money, when in actual fact, for a lot of people, only one will do because the product and practices by which the product was used, was proper.

          furthermore, your replies fail to properly reason but you accuse others as if you accuse a mirror of your own inadequacies.

          the fact i negotiated a replacement backup drive which still fails to synchronise mobile data, and the need to be meticulous about ejecting the drive (and costing long wait times) to prevent the drive failing, is just like the previous faulty drive. other drives i own have never faulted so badly like seagate. this is the poor standard seagate have. seagate cut costs and poor quality is the product sold to you. so now i just warn everyone based on real experiences.

          in consumer law (repair, replace, refund) sellers are required to provide a working product as claimed as well as associated costs for repair, replace, refund; because they take on accountability.

          so before you falsely accuse because of your own inadequacies of logic, know your consumer rights.

        • -1

          @lovepeoplenotmoney: Already been discussed to death. No new ground here. Just personal jabs, to make-up for lack of content.

        • @Utopian: disregard of reasons, which disproved unrationalised opinions to have multiple backups; and demonstrate persistence to stand on unfounded footing. personal jabs actually evidenced the weak level of argument to warrant multiple backups, when a good quality product would have done the job; and was the attempt to compensate for an unsupported stance, devoid of logic. so allowing consumers to beware poor product quality is a justified action taken

        • -1

          @lovepeoplenotmoney: The last line is the only sense in Alllllll of that tripe. The rest counters it, and is repeated untruths.

        • -2

          @Utopian: obviously your claim is clearly observed to continue asserting unfounded personal opinion. when there are clearly no means to defend your opinion for lack of reason, yet persist to hold your opinion; the question of logic is clearly corrupted, like Seagate products unable to reliably backup data via usb or over wifi.

  • It's 158.69 AUD for me

    • +3

      I used the the current conversion rate. I normally pay in US dollars and let my bank convert it to AU dollars. It normally works out cheaper for me. Not sure about others?

      • +5

        Correct. Don't use the Amazon conversion.

        • Thanks. Just bought one.

      • Is it better that way? Do you know if your bank charges extra 2.5% fee over the US amount?

        • +1

          I don't know about that. All I know is that the amount I get charged is always less than the amount that is converted by Amazon.

      • +1

        Yepp…. same here

      • +2

        Yep, just got one for $153 using my Bankwest M'card - no fees for o'seas currency purchases. Thanks OP.

      • I get charged a conversion fee..this is using AMEX!

        • I get charged a conversion fee..this is using AMEX!

          Bankwest are about the only one who don't charge the ripoff fee.

        • +4

          @Maverick-au: neither do 28Degrees or the Citibank debit card.

        • @Maverick-au:… On platinum cards.

          Others, they do.

  • The one I bought from the last deal just arrived yesterday. So I guess it's time for me to order another one!

  • Bah, just bought a 4TB portable drive from MSY for $240 :/

    • So this is a great deal.

  • Is this the type that gets its power from the USB port? Or do we need to have the power plug connected?

    • +4

      Portable hard drive, so USB port :)

  • Does anyone knows how long it takes to arrive Aus?

    • +2

      Usually around 2 weeks

    • Does anyone knows how long it takes to arrive Aus?

      Depends on the service you choose and pay for from Amazon… Sheesh.

  • +1

    Just ordered one. Thx for the tip. Previous unit cost about Au$200.

    This will be my second Seagate 4TB portable. They are quick and get the job done.
    I use it about once a week for the past 3 months. Seems to be going fine, so far.

  • +1

    thanks got one.

    but price slightly increased US$120.60 - I think exchange rate changed.

    • +1

      Maybe you paid a bit more for shipping. Did they charge you more than US$7.23 for shipping?

  • +1

    Thats a sick deal, that's what I paid for the 2TB

    • So it's a +

  • bought one.
    thanks OP

  • Been hanging out for an external for ages - seems as good a time as any, and handy it's 4TB too. Thanks OP :)

  • +1

    A$310.64 delivered for 2x units to SYDNEY. Sold!

  • Bought the red one which was for USD $110., total charges for me was USD $117 including the delivery charges

  • Ha ha, damm Ozbargain! Bought one, thanks OP

  • Thanks, was needing a new external hard drive so ordered one of these

  • +1

    God Dammit. Paid 150 Euros in Amsterdam last week for a black one.

  • Who else makes a 4TB USB Powered Portable Hard Drive and is it better then this one and how much?

    And if I do get this Seagate one, will it be good for my iMac using Time Capsual?

    Review say it heats up a lot, thoughts?

  • +2

    Amazing how this is even cheaper than 3.5" 4tb internal drives

  • Price is back up to $129 USD now. Expired?

    • Thanks for that. Red is out of stock but I found the Silver for the same price :)

      • +1

        Thanks Jase, I cancelled my red one then ordered a silver, It comes out AU$153 which is a very good deal.

        • +2

          Noooo Red is faster ;)

        • @Jase2801: oh no, are they different hard drive inside?

        • +1

          @StrongLatte: LOL it was supposed to be a joke. You know Red is faster like in cars. Just to confirm, it is the same drive inside :)

  • -1

    thanks! I bought it for AUD $158 delivered to Sydney NSW.

    • punchable

  • +1

    Many thanks, just bought one with my BankWest Platinum no fee master card. Lucky I checked my OzBargain email before I went up the shops to replace my dying ext HD. PERFECT timing.

    Thanks again !!

  • +2

    Did anyone try to price match at officeworks ? I just did and they allowed it! Paid $150.24 and I have the drive now :)

    • Really? I thought they only price match Ozzie companies? WOW great stuff :)

      • They allowed it I showed em the order total plus shipping and they beat it by 10% mine showed at $158 aud delivered hence $150 price

  • Order total: AUD 158.15

    why does it show a different price for me?

    • +1

      As per previous comments, If you pay in USD and your bank doesn't charge fees it will be $153. If you choose to pay in AUD it will charge you $158. Even if you pay in USD your bank may charge a small fee so the final price should be a bit more than $153.

  • Prices went up on the stock exchange Amazon already.

  • Price now $144.54 (I assume that this is US$) + shipping and one left.

  • Have USD 126.18 / AUD 170.23 here for the black one (with postage)?

    How are people getting $153? is that without post?

    Also each colour is giving a different price for me too.

    • The red was cheapest for me

      • Red was originally the cheapest but the prices changed since the deal was first posted.

  • Wow, back up to US$149 from the US$109 earlier advertised.

    So glad i jumped and got 2.

    I guess the "deal" is over now.

  • why is the item still not shipped yet?

    • +1

      Mine shipped yesterday.

  • +1

    mine arrived today, it spent longer in Sydney then to Adelaide then it did traveling from Seattle to Oz

  • +1

    I am a little late to say thanks as I've just had the chance/time to sign up and felt that i needed to still it.
    Bought a few as this was one amazing deal.
    Keep up the good work

  • I want to use this drive for a time machine for my iMac. Do I need the programs / files that's installed on

  • Mine arrived yesterday. All good. Speed not as fast of my Toshiba 2gb.

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