Kickstarter - Plug Hub: Australian Universal USB Power Adapter

Associatedrodgo @ plughub.com.au on 03/12/2015 - 10:05
Last edited 07/12/2015 - 10:33 by 1 other user

Hi OZB community, not sure if i can post this but shall give it a try. After a year of Development today I launched my new product on Kickstarter - PlugHub. I would love to hear from the community and get some feedback on what they think of the product and any changes they recommend. If admins allow it i would also love to setup a deal exclusive for OZB members, let me know what sort of deal you want. Looking forward to your support and feedback.

Thanks

Kickstarter: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/857387852/plug-hub-aust…

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/PlugHub15/

Update: 1pm AEST today 7/12/15 i am going to post a deal for OZB members to buy a Plug Hub. I have around 40 in stock i can part way with and hopefully once people have them in hand i can get some more feedback.

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Comments

  • Timothy-Mineworker on 04/12/2015 - 22:35

    i like the idea, but all my plugs are hidden behind things with power boards running out, so not for me, cool idea though

  • paperkut on 04/12/2015 - 23:44

    I think the price is good tbh.
    I would buy if I frequently travel within Australia (I don't) because of how compact it is. At home I use a power strip that has a few USB ports so I don't need anything like this.

    If there's a universal version with a few exchangeable adapter, I will definitely get it for when I travel overseas.
    I've been wanting to get this but it's too expensive. It's usually $35-$40 when on sale, so you'd need to price it a little lower than that.
    http://www.gadgetguy.com.au/product/belkin-travel-surge-prot…

  • MetalPhreak on 05/12/2015 - 05:35
    +1

    Neat idea but I don't really see anywhere in my house I could use it besides the kitchen. All the other power points are at the standard 300mm from the floor. Plus the kitchen is the least likely place I'd want to plug my devices in.

    $30 isn't a terrible price but it is far from a bargain. However, considering the cost of a Sockitz and an electricial to come fit it, this is a cheaper option.

    No power switches on the pass through sockets seems like a safety issue for me. Isn't there some part of the Australian Standards that requires switching? Are these auto-switched so that removing a plug disconnects the contacts?

    EDIT: AS3000 Section 4.4.4.1 Each socket-outlet shall be individually controlled by a separate switch that complies with either AS/NZS 3133 or AS 60947.3 and operates in all active conductors. There are 3 exceptions that this does not meet.

    Considering that the device itself is not a socket outlet, and more of a power board (which typically are not switched), this may be compliant. However, with a power board you still have access to the socket outlet its plugged into if you need to disconnect power in an emergency. Given that this device covers the only point of power isolation I have some serious concerns regarding its compliance…

    • Associatedrodgo @ plughub.com.au on 05/12/2015 - 14:54

      It was tested and went through a process to get certification in Australia. They did not request i add any switches.

    • PVA on 08/12/2015 - 18:10

      I would think that the plug hub would be classed as a double adaptor, so no switch needed. It isnt a permanent power socket that is wired into the wall.

  • navegante88 on 05/12/2015 - 08:21

    Good luck! I think it's a great idea and people won't realise how good it is until they actually use it. I think to make this more appealing, you need to emphasise on how much it costs for an electrician to install something similar, that is the true selling point.

    I like how there are stands, hopefully you can think of more ways to make it more minimalistic (having wires connected still makes it a bit messy, maybe having an interchangeable dock that can rotate.

    Good luck!

  • lead_org on 05/12/2015 - 11:51

    I think you are looking for a wrong crowd to get feedback or interests in a Kickstarter product. What you need to do is to talk to all the media and bloggers, let them blog about them.

    Also, a great storyline is important. You need to look at past product campaigns for similar product on Kickstarter, and how the media responded to them. Focusing strictly on the Australian market may not get you enough money.

    • GameChanger on 05/12/2015 - 14:44

      The fact is the product isn't anyone close to innovative or unique to other kickstarters, I don't any media outlet will want to be blogging about a plug.

      • lead_org on 07/12/2015 - 01:45

        well that is the litmus test for the product and your pitch. If the media is not going to be convinced, then there will be lot of work ahead of you.

        • Serapis on 08/12/2015 - 19:19

          Can't trust media articles written it comes to startups esp. products on kickstarter.

          Whilst some articles are genuine, many others are paid for by the founders and can't be trusted.

        • lead_org on 09/12/2015 - 20:12

          @Serapis: most trust worthy media outlet do not allow sponsored posts. I have been through the whole pitching process to the media, they need to test the products then make the article.

        • Serapis on 09/12/2015 - 22:21

          @lead_org:

          Wired and techcruch seem to follow that to some extent, not sure about anyone else.

      • centrelink on 10/12/2015 - 10:23

        I dont think Australia is a good place to be for innovation anyways. We aren't a very innovative country at all. We praise a year 10 drop out going to work more than a medical students who gets all HD.

  • [Deactivated] on 05/12/2015 - 13:12
    +1

    This looks like an okay mum & dad Harvey Norman product. It's a poor work around though, nothing is holding it apart from the plug and it's going to fall off the wall every time you pull out a mains device.

    I will be soon installing few proper ones such as:

    https://www.clipsal.com/Trade/Products/Electrical-Accessorie…

  • fozzie on 05/12/2015 - 14:36

    Nice project, but not for me. I prefer to have tablet sitting on desk or cabinet whilst charging for me to pick up and use. Sorry I'm out but I wish you good luck.

  • frazerm on 05/12/2015 - 15:50

    What about these ? Look much nicer and have the switches.
    http://sockitz.com.au/m/index.php/

    • Serapis on 05/12/2015 - 16:25

      All our sockITz range are direct replacements to the standard Australian double power point. So no messy wiring issues however we do recommend a qualified electrical contractor does the swap for you

      Not same type of product, it's not plug and play though admittedly does look very nice.

    • SlickMick on 06/12/2015 - 22:58

      it doesn't provide the place to hold the devices, which is really what this product offers. It's like sockitz is last decade's solution, and now somebody has said "what if you didn't have to leave your devices lying around"….and also not need an electrician to install.

      Sockitz might look like a good idea, but in reality it doesn't add any functionality over a double adapter and a charger.

      • Serapis on 08/12/2015 - 19:21

        It's like sockitz is last decade's solution…

        Especially with a "z" at the end of its name… so 90s * shudder *

    • snook on 08/12/2015 - 16:31

      Switches are only for the powerpoints, NOT the usbs

  • Lichen6420 on 05/12/2015 - 18:47
    +7

    For me this product is a non starter. The problem is it adds functionality, but also removes functionality at the same time.

    With people being so power-conscious these days i think removing the ability to switch of a power point is a major concern.

    Lets face it, all your buying here is a double USB charger that removes the ability to use the switches and you can kinda sit shit on top of it.

    And it is attached to the wall with double sided tape? for anyone renting this is a major problem as the double sided can and will remove paint, especially if it has been sitting there for 12 months.

    If it was me i'd just buy 5 of these and pay an electrician for 1hr to some fit them, or god forbid install them myself.

    http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Double-Australian-USB-Power-Point…

    I also don't get the argument of no space for switches? if the PCB for a dedicated socket + USB can fit into a single power-point footprint than you need to try harder.

    • ozhunter on 05/12/2015 - 19:18

      If it was me i'd just buy 5 of these and pay an electrician for 1hr to some fit them

      If you only want one, then the OP's product is worth considering. But if you do want multiple, it's probably worthwhile to pay an electrician and get a few done at the same time. The ebay ones you link look tidier, sturdier, have switches, and both usb ports are able to charge 2.1A (simultaneously?).

  • [Deactivated] on 05/12/2015 - 18:51

    I have an extension lead hanging into my desk drawer. My phone charger is plugged into it and the phone sits on my desk. It irritates me having to get up to flick the switch off when the phone is fully charged. So I pull the charger out of the lead instead. This irritates me too because I'd prefer a switch.

    So… I know an early post already said it, but covering the power point gives the impression it should remain in place. Therefore I too think it should have switches. Having to unplug other appliances to turn them off (rather than just flicking a switch off) will turn some people away.

    I know there will be people that won't initially think of that aspect. But after they buy it some will get tired of unplugging an appliance to turn it off. e.g. There will be one person that wants to charge their phone - and another wants to plug the toaster in (for example). So the second person will start unplugging your product, so they can leave the toaster plugged in, but turn it off with a switch. Now the first person will either 'fight back' by plugging your device back in, or, they will start plugging a USB plugpack back into the other side instead - because it's just easier than arguing/fighting over it.

    Now your product sits on the bench. Eventually it gets dropped into a drawer. And then forgotten. But only until it comes time to gripe about it to other people. Some of who won't buy it, thinking, "Yeah, no switch - didn't think of that."

    Additionally, is the USB charging always on? Most people won't think of it, and I guess I only do because of my electronics background… but I don't feel comfortable leaving things powered on, but unused. For years we've all been nagged to turn things off when not using them. Power drain would be small, but still - lots of people don't understand that - all they understand is… "Hey… this thing is warm. That means it's using power when nothing is plugged in."

    • snook on 08/12/2015 - 16:30

      Agree with you here. I have hardwired USB plugs in my kitchen and it annoys me that I can't switch them off when other people are constantly leaving the cord in the wall charger, waiting for the big spill….

  • Lichen6420 on 05/12/2015 - 22:34

    Also what is with the massive PCB… wayyy oversized for it's purpose. Shrink the PCB, put in switches and you may have something workable.

    http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/2-port-usb-wall-charge…

  • gadgetguy on 06/12/2015 - 00:42
    +2

    Some info for everyone commenting about the lack of a switch:

    http://www.howtogeek.com/231886/tested-should-you-unplug-cha…

    • Associatedrodgo @ plughub.com.au on 06/12/2015 - 12:07

      So the cost to add a switch would pay for years of electricity in the current plughub design? Easy decsion then ;)

      • dealman on 07/12/2015 - 12:24

        Easy decsion then

        Big Psychological change fro all the users.. There is a reason you are getting so much push back about those switches, Also Doesn't your product already have USB ports so why would someone plugin more chargers to the port.. It will most likely be used for other products that are likely to have more drain than an idle charger.

      • PVA on 08/12/2015 - 19:48

        yep, 13 cents per year saved.

    • [Deactivated] on 07/12/2015 - 14:30

      I won't even touch the 'how accurate is that meter…" side of things, but, regardless of reality - perception is what matters in the end. And for years we've been told to turn things off at the switch. Now they want people to remember which ones do, and don't draw power - and only turn off the ones that do? LOL - that ain't gonna happen. They'll either leave it all on, or turn it all off.

      BTW… I remember reading an article a few years ago, where they interviewed the NSW Fire Brigade - who said toasters were the biggest cause of house fires - and they made a big point of mentioning many of those toasters were turned OFF at the switch, to tell us to pull the cable out - not just use the switch. Being involved in electrical stuff since a kid, I feel safer leaving a toaster plugged in but turned off - than a charger plugged in and turned on. I've seen enough plugpacks and appliance power supplies burn out to trust them.

      • thord on 08/12/2015 - 16:01

        "NSW Fire Brigade - who said toasters were the biggest cause of house fires - and they made a big point of mentioning many of those toasters were turned OFF at the switch,"

        That doesn't make any sense. It feels like it's one of those white lies they'd tell to try and force people to be pro-active.

        • Serapis on 08/12/2015 - 19:26
          +1

          No i suspect people are just too embarrassed to say they left their toast in the machine and forgot… throws all the damned stats off

          Fire brigade been called to my workplace multiple times for stuff being left in a toaster or sandwich press by people who turn it on and walk off and forget. It's like a $1k donation to the fire brigade every few months. However I've never had a toaster catch fire overnight.

  • DrStinge on 06/12/2015 - 12:27

    I would love a version with 1x USB Type-C, 1x USB Type-A

  • Blinkenlights on 06/12/2015 - 12:44
    +14

    Hello Paul ("rodgo"). I work in Electronics development, but in Sydney not Melbourne. It looks to me that you have most of your electronics work covered, so my advice is really directed to other areas.

    You really, really need one illustration that captures the essence of your device - this is critical to your success. It needs to be a photo, like the one at the top of your kickstarter, but in 3/4 view (ie photo at an angle so the eye can model depth in the scene, not straight on plan style). Use an off white wall, something people really think is a normal wall - perhaps even show the skirting board. You need to show the devices leaning against the wall. You need to show, through an "exploded view" diagram drawn into the photo, the stock standard power point behind your product, and your product being pushed into this - perhaps the exploded view diagram is like the arrowed outline diagrams in multilanguage instruction manuals. This one photo needs to communicate your devices function in just a second or two - because that is all the time you get to sell your product to normal people.

    You need to make your product reliable. I was involved in another kickstarter, the guy insisted he had to make 500 and deliver them direct to customers. I explained he could do that, but he should make 25 or so first and test them thoroughly in a field trial, encouraging tough use. He did not listen to me, and had problems. Ofcourse he blamed the problems on me - the electronics designer - despite the fact that I had told him to make the smaller quantity first and test them thoroughly - but he is young and silly and doesn't listen. I hope you do differently.

    Your competition is the flood of other products - they will always sell ten times as many as you because everyone else will buy atleast one before realising it barely operates or goes pffft. While you should state the charging current - just as they do - realise that most of their numbers are pretty much rubbish. They claim they are designed in australia because the buyer at the retail chain specified the charging current and the colour.

    I would think most people will respond to "Aussie guarantee - we replace it if you are not happy" - which will cost you a fair bit because some people are never happy, but hopefully communicates what you need to say compared with these other products that go bang.

    Assuming your product really is better, time how long it takes to fully charge the latest iphone and tablet from dead flat and put that info on a second version of the your photo as a graphic - that second version of the photo will have a useby date of 12 months, but will be an even more potent sales tool.

    Just my advice, and Good Luck! Great to see people in Australia actually trying to make products!

    • futaris on 07/12/2015 - 11:03

      Great post from another electronics guy

  • KaTst3R on 07/12/2015 - 03:37
    +2

    I appreciate OP writing on this forum and showing the community his new invention. But there are several headwinds that OP will face with regards to this product.

    1) Newer houses comes with electrical faceplates with USB ports
    2) There are extension cords that comes with USB ports
    3) Wireless (Qi) charging is the next new thing, USB charging will eventually be phased out
    4) I am happy to just plug the charger that came with my phones into the socket, no need to spend any extra money on anything

    Some people who cares about aesthetics might appreciate this more but I cant see it flying off the shelve at this point….

  • derek324 on 07/12/2015 - 08:29
    +2

    @rodgo: nice, well thought product… however, I am sorry to say, the market is already saturated with products providing the same, often more functionally. One can not claim that all surge protected mains adapters made by Philips, Jackson, Crest, Belkin, HPM, etc, are low quality or dangerous. Many of them are designed and certified to Australian standards. In my opinion your product adds little functionality and no advantage over the existing products. Just one example (there are more): have a look at Crest catalogue: http://crest.com.au/wp-content/uploads/Crest-Power-Catalogue…

  • Ultraman on 07/12/2015 - 10:20
    +1

    http://www.bunnings.com.au/hpm-adaptor-with-usb-charger-4-2a…

    $25.57
    HPM - recognised quality brand
    4.2A - better than 3A
    And only covers one of your double socket power point

    • Ultraman on 07/12/2015 - 23:52

      And is easily removable to switch the power off and store the unneeded adapters and cables away.

      Being able to turn the power switch off is of major concern to me. Especially tonight freakily enough after hearing from my parents about a friend's place escaping major fire damage as the fire smouldered out luckily for their dog who hid under the bed!

    • fusion17 on 08/12/2015 - 16:37

      holy crap. So expensive.

      I recall picking up exactly the same thing in japan for around $8
      Available in convenience stores literally everywhere. Granted that was probably 3A.

    • PVA on 08/12/2015 - 19:53

      I have a similar product. It no ways looks as good as the OPs product nor the same function (doesnt look neat or have a place for the phone.

      • Ultraman on 08/12/2015 - 20:41

        Hmmm………. one big fat Plughub sticking out of the wall with another big fat adapter** + two 1 meter long USB cables running out the side to the devices sitting on top, and God forbid someone accidentally hooks one of these cables and the device gets flung for a home run lol.

        **can't fit a second big adapter since it is exactly the same as a standard double power point

        Does that picture really look that much better? I guess the missing power switches make it much more neater ;)

  • Associatedrodgo @ plughub.com.au on 07/12/2015 - 10:33
    +5

    I appreciate all the feedback and people showing me similar products with the same function but they are not the same. A ferrari and a Hyundai both have the same Function of getting you from A to B but they are not the same.

    Update: 1pm AEST today 7/12/15 i am going to post a deal for OZB members to buy a Plug Hub. I have around 40 in stock i can part way with and hopefully once people have them in hand i can get some more feedback.

    Thanks

    • dasher86 on 07/12/2015 - 11:37

      if the price is decent i'll bite the bullet.
      how long would delivery take if it's in stock?

      • Associatedrodgo @ plughub.com.au on 07/12/2015 - 11:43

        I have around 40pcs in hand now that i have put aside for the OZB community. I will organise a courier to get them out this week so delivery shouldn't be long.

        Please only 1 per person and only order if you have standard double powerpoints in the house, not new slimline series or CBus etc.

        • dasher86 on 12/12/2015 - 17:08

          Any eta on delivery?

    • derek324 on 07/12/2015 - 11:49

      It is easy to say "my product is like a Ferrari". Reality check: many brands mentioned here before are closer to Ferrari then Hyundai, are designed and certified to Australian standards, offer dozens of products with different configurations, and are compatible with ANY wall socket. Yes, a company which is in business for many, many years (one mentioned before started making electrical goods 124 years ago) can occasionally release a so-so product, but generalizing needs some serious proof.

      • Associatedrodgo @ plughub.com.au on 07/12/2015 - 11:56
        +1

        Im not saying my product is a Ferrari, im not saying my product is a necessity. I am saying it is a better design then what anyone else has shown me or what i have seen on the market. Yes it has a similar function to other products but i prefer my design. If it sits on a shelf next to a standard USB plug and i can get the price point right i can assure you that your mum and dad buyer will buy a Plug Hub over anything else. If a small % of the OZB community doesnt like my product or think other products are better thats fine. Ill target it towards the other 99.99% of the market.

        I will be attempting to go down a licensing path with a major supplier as i am realistic and understand how hard it is to bring a product to market.

        • derek324 on 09/12/2015 - 08:43
          -1

          Scenario: your mum and dad moved into a new, nice place fitted with modern slimline powerpoints (practically all newer places are). "I can assure you that your mum and dad buyer will buy a Plug Hub over anything else" - oh no, you can not.

  • MementoMori on 07/12/2015 - 12:59
    +1

    This is great Rodgo, congratulations on this!

    I have also thought of a similar simple electronic device, but I have not pursued it as I believe if it were successful within a month there would be a Chinese knock off selling for a fraction of the price. It's an amazing idea but easy to copy.

    In addition to the Australia patent, how are you protecting yourself for this? Is it worth registering a patent in the US and China?

    I have considered it might be worth doing the first 6 months would be great and then just let the knock off's come.

    • Associatedrodgo @ plughub.com.au on 07/12/2015 - 13:15
      +1

      I have a design patent which is supposed to cover the fact that the Plug Hub covers an existing Power Point. Lets hope it stands up!

  • Associatedrodgo @ plughub.com.au on 07/12/2015 - 13:16

    Sorry for the deal delay, just waiting on Admins to allow me to post it.

  • [Deactivated] on 07/12/2015 - 14:36
    +1

    Sorry to add what will seem like another critcism, but I just watched the video in the other thread…

    I think the logo is too big. I know - everyone has an opinion. But if it were me, I'd either remove it entirely, make it much smaller, or smaller AND emboss it into the plastic without paint.

  • hawkers8905 on 07/12/2015 - 14:44

    I think this is a good product and a cheaper alternative to upgrade an existing socket. I'd say this would appeal more to a renter who could then take it with them if/when they move. I think for home owners, most would spend the extra $$$ and have an electrician install something like sockitz.

  • Andrewwwwww on 07/12/2015 - 15:07

    I think individual switches are a big plus for me. Also I want to have more than 2 USB outlets, 4 sounds like a good number.

  • Thenarrator on 07/12/2015 - 21:27

    if I invest 10k into your company. how many shares will i get (%) ?

    • Associatedrodgo @ plughub.com.au on 07/12/2015 - 22:34

      I don't need investors. thanks for the offer though.

      • Ultraman on 07/12/2015 - 23:18
        +2

        lmao u r on kickstarter and yet you say "I don't need investors."??!!!

        • cwongtech on 08/12/2015 - 00:43
          +4

          Because investors will have a cut in their future profits.
          Kickstarter means money without legal strings attached. It's like an interest free loan, better than a debt.
          Only catch is instead of selling the idea to a Bank and saying you have guaranteed future cash flows, you sell the idea to geeks with some money in their wallets, hoping that your presentation of your product is enough for them to pre-order for your proposed idea. This method is like a shotgun method. As long as your presentation is amazing, not every person who visits kickstarter is a resourceful as an OzBargainer. Just look at the solar roadways, all you got to do is to insert some jargon in and make it interesting. Without even being too knowledgeable in the area, one can see it's financially stupid to build roads with solar panels.

        • [Deactivated] on 08/12/2015 - 22:54

          Kickstarter backers aren't investors - they essentially gift the money on a promise of the project creator doing something (often delivering something of value). When projects go sour, and many do, the backers have a very hard time making project creators accountable.

        • TrailerTrash on 09/12/2015 - 13:09

          @Thrift: Yep! And before I was baptised into the OzB community, I backed two of the worst ones on KickStarter - Clang and Agent Smartwatch … still waiting for both to be delivered (which is never!).
          Lesson learned - do your homework, or only back businesses who have a good track record.

      • Thenarrator on 08/12/2015 - 13:23
        -4

        well this guy doesnt want my money! how ludicrous

        • eug on 08/12/2015 - 13:35

          Maybe not everyone wants to sell shares in their company?

        • Associatedrodgo @ plughub.com.au on 08/12/2015 - 14:29

          I can generate funds easy. I need people with contacts and skills.

        • Thenarrator on 08/12/2015 - 16:12
          +1

          @rodgo: then generate fund to start production … easily?

  • TheBird on 08/12/2015 - 10:18
    +3

    Hi Rodgo,

    I like it. You've worked out a need and it fills it.

    Just a 2 cents thing about perception in your kickstarter pitch. There's a theory in filmmaking. You can shoot poor video and it can be considered an artistic choice, though poor audio always comes across as amateur. In my opinion, your audio quality is letting you down.

    Good luck with your campaign.

    • KaTst3R on 08/12/2015 - 13:46
      +1

      That is some good advice….I learn something new today…

  • BertieBrown on 08/12/2015 - 13:49
    +3

    This is a great idea.

    I switched one of my old GPO's for a Jackson USB double outlet GPO and it was a pain in the butt. Not to mention that the rear points where smaller than standard so hard wiring was a pain but that the GPO had to be physically replaced as well.

    This allows me to take my USB adapter with me from room to room, so I'd only need to buy a couple (sorry OP). Plus it has the benefit of storing the device above the charging point (that's perfect for the kitchen IMO where the other half can store when she's baking or cooking and watching the iPad).

    Personally after looking into options to replace GPO's for USB powered outlets, this is the best option I've seen.

    But I'm one of those people that wants to wait to see the thing IRL before I commit. Sorry OP but I'll reserve final judgement until I've finally seen one, but otherwise I think it's a great concept and product.

    Also just for perspective, the Jackson USB GPO was $35 plus if you factor in cost of sparky to hardwire, normally at least $60-$100 for a GPO (at least in my area), if this product retails for $30-$40 you'd be more appealing. Plus it also looks a lot nicer.

    I have to say though OP the product is good but some of the earlier queries from folk didn't inspire (no offence) just trying to be helpful, I.E: the warranty issue. For me that's fairly important and to not really have an idea on that wasn't overly reassuring.

  • thord on 08/12/2015 - 15:55

    Lots of criticism in here, but I feel like the problem is that the focus isn't on the design, and the design is where the focus should be. The fact that you can slap on a simple adapter to an existing power point is very attractive (especially to renters). Powerboards are ugly, they're cumbersome, and if this was available it'd be the choice over a powerboard.

    The problems I see are:

    • Cable management
    • Price
    • How does it work with fast chargers? Some phones come with plugs that have a fast charge and a standard usb cable, will the usb ports fast charge my modern phone? If so, wouldn't they also fry my old phone? My understanding is that the (for example) samsung charger does the V / A regulating, and the USB cable is a standard cable. If I plug the cable into your USB ports, how does it know how much A to send to my phone?
    • eug on 08/12/2015 - 16:15
      +1

      How does it work with fast chargers?

      A fast charger is a normal 5V ~2A charger (sometimes, rarely, called QuickCharge 1.0). There's also QuickCharge 2.0 that new flagship Android phones support. This charger will not QuickCharge those phones - it'll fast-charge them though.

      If I plug the cable into your USB ports, how does it know how much A to send to my phone?

      It doesn't have to know how many A to send as it's your phone that draws the amount of current needed.

      It's just like your house mains power. You can usually draw up to 63A before the main circuit breaker trips.

      When you plug in a tiny desk lamp, it doesn't blow up because the whole 63A isn't being forced into it. The lamp just draws what it needs from the 63A supply. You can plug your phone into a 5V 100A power supply and it'll have no problems.

      • thord on 11/12/2015 - 11:04

        Awesome thanks for the explanation

    • ozhunter on 08/12/2015 - 21:20
      +1

      The design is the selling point of it, though once you plug in two phones and two cables, it's not exactly good looking and would still prefer to keep it out of sight.

      As ultraman pointed out, this is a good alternative available to purchase of the shelf right now and about $15 cheaper. This one doesn't have the holder but it can charge 2.1A per port simultaneously and still access the switches.

  • snook on 08/12/2015 - 16:19

    I think it looks ok and is a nice idea but

    My device is not a necessity it is something one can buy for convenience and design

    Convenience can be found in other ways and the design, while a good idea, sticks out of the wall too far to look good in a modern kitchen. I have slim line USB + double power point, power points. I want to use my device in the kitchen, not just charge it so the storage idea is moot.

    No way i'd pay $25 for this. Too expensive. You say it yourself, it's not a necessity. Therefore: You'd do better if you went cheap-x-many instead of expensive-x-few and then you'd sell heaps to people who thought they needed it and didn't. Simples.

  • azshade on 08/12/2015 - 19:18

    Can I make a suggestion? Don't offer this to the consumer, but offer it to the wholesaler or the installer (electricians) and install it during house building or maintenance.

    If you design this product for consumer level as a "DIY" install, then there will be ebay knock offs on the market injection molded without the Australian certification within a week.

    You'll have done all the engineering, and paid all your compliance fees, and did all the homework, selling it at $50/each or whatever. Selling it as "THE ORIGINAL". And some guy on ebay with 15000 feedback will be shipping it out of Hong Kong will be selling it for $2.95

    Instead, don't sell it to consumers. Refund all your Kickstarter investors. Pull the plug (ba dum tish) and find yourself an electrical engineering company to partner with and get them to invest capital - one that does electrical installations in houses and commercial offices.

    That's where these things will shine. Commercial

    Imagine some office place like, I don't know, a new ATO building or TAFE or University or something. A thousand of these installed in the building @ 100 a piece is starting to look quite tidy.

    Lord love government contracts.

    • eug on 08/12/2015 - 21:07
      +3

      Wouldn't the installers or electricians just install a GPO with built-in USB sockets? The whole point of this is so even your grandmother can install it.

    • ozhunter on 08/12/2015 - 21:10

      Why would he do that? You just plug this into the power point. You don't need an electrician to do that.

      If you're going to hire an electrician to install it, there's already options like sockitz.

  • derek324 on 09/12/2015 - 08:17
    +2

    Major design flaw: LIMITED COMPATIBILITY. As the OP said: "it wont work with the Slimline series of Powerpoints that are installed into most new builds. It will only universally fit standard powerpoints which are your boring old school fat ones". So "your grandmother" can plug it into a slimline series power point and, not even realizing it, have loose, poorly fitting, dangerous and unreliable electrical connections.

    • Ultraman on 09/12/2015 - 10:12

      Nahhh, just whack on a few layers of thick double sided tape and she'll be right ;)

  • Ultraman on 09/12/2015 - 11:22
    +1

    Besides all the other issues, the number one concern for me is safety. It is in no way better than a power board left on at all times (why do we buy switched power boards?!) and in fact is worse with no LED light to tell us it is still working. I would have no way to know when to go and buy another $40 Plughub to keep me safer ;)

    Thus, I will not support or buy this product. Especially with the OP's attitude towards safety.

    Why am I so opposed to it having no switches and why do I care so much now? Because as I mentioned further above, my family friends townhouse escaped being burnt down but is unlivable in until it's completely cleaned after a POWERBOARD started a smoldering fire!!! And yes, their pet dog is doing well but did have to stay overnight at the VET hospital. Originally, as reported in the news it was thought to be the TV that started the fire but on further investigation it was actually the powerboard.

    Now am I so glad I invested in and bought those DSE and Belkin switched powerboards from deals found here on Ozbargain =D

    • eug on 09/12/2015 - 12:46
      -1

      It is in no way better than a power board left on at all times (why do we buy switched power boards?!) and in fact is worse with no LED light to tell us it is still working.

      OK roll call:
      How many of us buy switched power boards?
      How many of us buy $3 unswitched power boards with no LEDs?
      How many of your phone chargers have LEDs?

      Because as I mentioned further above, my family friends townhouse escaped being burnt down but is unlivable in until it's completely cleaned after a POWERBOARD started a smoldering fire!!!

      Sorry to hear that, but that's like saying I will not cross the road again because a friend of mine got hit by a car when crossing the road.

      There are millions of cheap power boards in use with no problems. Was your friend's powerboard in good condition? Not a 20-year old Kambrook one with loose or oxidised pins?

      • derek324 on 09/12/2015 - 13:29

        Any electrical device connected to the mains can potentially cause an incident. And sometimes some do. It is not about total safety, it is about being aware, and minimizing the risks.

        "Millions of cheap power boards in use with no problems"… are you serious? Try this one:
        "A four-outlet power board has been identified as a likely cause for the Christmas 2011 fire that killed Matt Golinski's wife and three daughters and left the celebrity chef with severe burns to 40 per cent of his body".
        Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/coroner-finds-pow…

        or this one:
        "A faulty powerboard is believed to be the cause of a house fire at Lugarno last night. Four people, including two police officers, were taken to hospital".
        Read more: http://www.theleader.com.au/story/3204129/faulty-power-board…

        or… use Google. You will find as many relevant stories as you like.

        • eug on 09/12/2015 - 13:39

          "Millions of cheap power boards in use with no problems"… are you serious? Try this one:

          Yes. It looks like you don't understand the meaning of the sentence.

          There are millions of cheap power boards in use with no problems.
          …and maybe one in a million with problems.

          Just like how hundreds of millions of people cross the road every day.
          …and maybe one in a million of them get hit by a car.

          So if you've stopped using unswitched powerboards because your friend's powerboard of unknown condition overheated, shouldn't you stop crossing the road as well?

        • Ultraman on 09/12/2015 - 14:08

          @eug: Let me amend that for you..

          There are millions of cheap power boards in use with no problems that do not obstruct and prevent you from switching the power point off!!!

        • eug on 09/12/2015 - 15:13

          @Ultraman: You seem obsessed over switched power points.

          Better let the whole of the USA, Japan, and many countries in Europe know that switched power points are incredibly important.

        • derek324 on 09/12/2015 - 15:33

          @eug:
          While I do understand the meaning of the sentence you are referring to, I probably misunderstood why you said it. I do believe however that my interpretation was perfectly logical, even if not in line with your thinking.

          As I said, any electrical device connected to the mains can potentially cause an incident. I have not seen any relevant statistics, but one thing is certain beyond any doubt: the safer a device is, the smaller chances of such device causing an incident. One (obviously, not the only one) factor making a device safer is how well it was designed.

        • derek324 on 09/12/2015 - 15:42

          @eug:
          Cost and Tradition. Very powerful factors.

  • ClawShrimp on 09/12/2015 - 13:22

    Personally, I think this is a great idea; and I have at least two spots in my home where this would suit me down to the ground (kitchen and office).

    I'm sick of my kids iPad Minis taking up kitchen bench space when they're charging, and this device completely solves this problem.

    I also think the price is completely reasonable. Of course, I'd prefer it were cheaper; but if I saw this in Bunnings for $30, I wouldn't hesitate in buying two.

    • derek324 on 09/12/2015 - 13:31

      Just check that your wall powerpoints are compatible. Some are (typically older style), some are not.

      • ClawShrimp on 09/12/2015 - 13:33

        Mine look exactly the same as the one shown in the Kickstarter video.

        • Ultraman on 09/12/2015 - 14:12

          What the video doesn't show you are the kids sitting in the kitchen at the bench NEXT to the iPad minis resting on top off the Plughub with their 1m long USB cables snaking out in a "U" shape at the side and then one kid gets excited and accidentally hooks one of these wires to send the iPad flying for a sixer to the boundary ;)

        • eug on 09/12/2015 - 15:14

          @Ultraman: That definitely doesn't happen with a normal charger plugged into a wall right?

        • Ultraman on 09/12/2015 - 15:17

          @eug: No, it does not. Definitely, right?

        • Ultraman on 09/12/2015 - 15:23

          To expand on the picture I painted, if the iPads are sitting on the bench while plugged in charging, the kids will either be sitting away from them, or be sitting there playing with them.

          With the plughub, I would recommend a no sit zone around it for kids. And maybe even for adults too ;)

        • ozhunter on 09/12/2015 - 15:25

          @Ultraman:

          The holder is removable if you're that paranoid of that happening, and I'm sure there are power points in the house that are closer to the ground.

        • eug on 09/12/2015 - 15:34

          @ozhunter: Some people just want to find fault. Faults can be found in absolutely any design, because there's no one design that will suit every single situation.

        • derek324 on 09/12/2015 - 15:45
          +2

          @eug: correct… but isn't it how ideas are improved, and progress happens? As opposed to passively and happily consuming whatever is placed in front of you?

        • [Deactivated] on 09/12/2015 - 16:14

          @Ultraman: If you look really really closely, you might also notice the video doesn't show the hapless house-husband's mis-putted indoor golf shot ricocheting off the door jamb and into the the iPad mini sitting on top of the Plug Hub, shattering its screen in a shower of sparks that ignite the undetected accumulation of gas that leaked from a blown out burner, resulting in said hapless house-husband grabbing the cat by the scruff of the neck and leaping in slow motion through the lounge room window just as his wary wife arrives home exhausted from a terrible day at work to be greeted by a spectacular fireball that once was their home, and exasperates, "Oh Barry, not again", as a brand new ute gently descends onto their front yard and an occupant throws an ice cold beverage through the window to poor Barry.

        • Ultraman on 09/12/2015 - 21:28

          @Thrift: Hahaha, let's start the script for Inception 2!! Unfortunately, IMHO the picture I painted sounds way too realistic and boring in comparison ;)

  • gmail92 on 09/12/2015 - 17:59
    +2

    I found this at BIGW ; $26.

    http://imgur.com/msDvVPs

    strangely similar.

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