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Kogan Smart Bluetooth Blood Pressure Monitor for $48 + Free Shipping
Kogan Smart Bluetooth Blood Pressure Monitor $48 + Free Shipping (Was $66)
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Yes, Comparison, I find the Actiiv wrist blood pressure monitor to be absolutely top notch. Not to mention that these can be had for roughly $50AUD posted from China 24/7. So the Kogan price is actually just 'average market' price.
I'll take that as a comment
is it still available at kmart?
My local had 10+ on the weekend, got one and its really good! (the $10 kmart ones)
Useless product. Have you ever seen a health professional take a blood pressure reading from your wrist? Hope.
A fool and his money…Agree that the wrist is the wrong place to take blood pressure. You'd have to hold your wrist at heart level. I had one before and it was very inconsistent.
Have you ever seen a health professional take a blood pressure reading from your wrist?
Yeah, I have actually. My wife, her brother and their Mum, all very experienced registered nurses, use these things at home and at work. They're perfectly suitable for ongoing monitoring and first-pass testing in the hands of a competent professional or even a suitably instructed amateur.
Notice how the cops refer to the roadside breath alcohol test as a 'preliminary' test and take the punters back to the shop for an "evidential" breach test if the preliminary result seems out of the ordinary? It's exactly the same deal. You use a cheap and portable device to screen, and roll out the good old mercury-filled sphygmomanometer and a stethoscope if you see something out of the ordinary.
The cheap wrist machines are good for doctors to give to at-risk patients for daily monitoring, too. Some models keep daily records of readings in memory, so the doctor can look at them at a check-up. It doesn't matter so much whether the readings are 100% accurate or not. If the patient is properly trained to take readings in a consistent way, trends will be visible in the data, and that's more important.
I wouldn't buy this one, primarily because it's Kogan but also because it's about thirty dollars too expensive.
I have one of the KMart arm-band machines and I don't particularly like it. It took a lot of futzing about to get it to connect to my iPhone, it flat-out refused to talk to my Android phone, and it errors out of attempts at taking readings more often than it works. My dodgy AU$20 Chinese wrist machine is more reliable.
Nope nope and nope.
Hideously inaccurate because your radial and ulnar arteries are smaller caliber distal arteries that are not at the level of the heart.but by all means you are welcome to waste your money
Might I suggest novelty glasses and cough syrup
I've got both the cuff & wrist ones from Kmart. Took both to test against the one used at my GP. Both were very close to doctor's reading.
I use the wrist one to monitor my Father's BP - it's easier to use sitting & standing. A few weeks back, found him near death twice & brought him round. Weeks in hospital finally showed up heart irregularities, but actual cause is unknown. A pacemaker was fitted with wireless connection for remote monitoring.
But low blood pressure was observed & could be a contributing factor. He now takes medication for that.
I showed the specialist the wrist BPM & suggested regular checking to look for patterns (graphed on phone app via Bluetooth). He approved my approach, as no other simple way would detect patterns. The accuracy is not so important (but seems ok), rather the consistency of readings (& consistency in way of taking readings - follow the instructions). It has worked very well.
I'll take the opinion of a cardiologist & GP for use in that non-critical monitoring use. Of course for medical use, have a professional & trained operator take your BP.
The cuff BPM is more convenient to carry & use (eg training outdoors), but there can be variation in reading if not used according to instructions. This seems more of an issue than with traditional cuff BPM. But both types vary - even talking can affect reading according to my specialist.
@sagiballs
not at the level of the heart
You didn't read a single word I wrote, did you?!
@douglasb:
I did. And the reasoning is simply not sound.
If you want a "first pass" test go to the GP or go to the chemist and they will test it for free using a better machineIf you want to do your own home monitoring pony up another 40+ dollars and get a proper machine
Or waste 50 bucks on this. Your call.Another forty dollars, over and above a device that is already overpriced by thirty dollars?
Dreaming!
(I've not yet decided whether you're defending the overpriced locally rebadged devices (exactly the same, internally, as the one in the deal) because you bought one and you need others on-side to feel warm-and-fuzzy about your purchase decision, or because you sell the same devices for $100+ yourself and you're internally embarrassed by the rort! Pretty sure it's one or t'other though!)
@douglasb:
Nah. Because I'm actually a doctor and want to save people 50 bucks on this trash in the first place ;)
But by all means you're the expert right? Because they're all the same. Like a Great Wall ute is the same as a hilux…Doctors are, if anything, more susceptible to marketing trash than anyone. A purely technical training regime with no sociological training combined with only the most basic organizational psychology and business education and you'll believe any claim a blonde pharma rep in a tight-fitting dress tells you.
So the rep for the thousand dollar BP monitors told you the internally identical twenty dollar BP monitors are trash? You bought the thousand dollar BP monitor? Makes perfect sense.
@douglasb:
Proves how ignorant you are. Those bimbo blonde sales reps you speak of are graduates with advanced science/ biotechnology degrees. They have to be to meaningfully discuss the research behind most products.But you wouldn't know that because you're just some ignorant hack trying to feel better about buying some Chinese Shite. Good luck with that
@douglasb:
I wisely take my medical advice from paid medical professionals I have an established relationship with, not the internet. You disagree with people doing that?As the next meeting with the Cardiologist is this afternoon, I'll discuss any concerns then.
As for your "not at the level of the heart"… I said I consistently follow the instrument's instructions which state in mine the reading is to be made with the device at the level of the heart. Luckily the human body can be moved. Unfortunately many people don't bother reading ;-)
As I said, checked (multiple times) against readings in my GP's office & recorded measurements were very close to those on equipment I would consider should be accurate.(Testing multiple devices at slightly different times will give some variation in measurement. Instructions for this device recommends multiple readings & then average results.)
As the instrument is being used to detect general trends over time rather than individual measurements, it's good enough for the task. If the trend suggests an issue, an appointment will be made for further studies by a medical professional.
Regular (at least fortnightly) GP appointments mean BP readings are being taken on more accurate equipment.
@Infidel:
The Actiiv wrist BPM is being used to monitor trends over the day & with activities & other variables (my Father refused to drink fluids in mornings (185ml over 18 hours) - the time when collapses occurred, so that was changed), to suggest possible contributing factors to my Father's health problems.Although a pace maker has been fitted, the doctors aren't sure that the irregular heart rhythms were the only factor leading to his collapses.
A wrist monitor was the least invasive & therefore most likely to be accepted by my elderly Father over the long term - that compliance was crucial. The cuff BPM usually requires him to move to it, rather than the wrist BPM which could be kept on or easily fitted over a series of activities.
The cuff BPM is there to check BP at other times & it's results are separately recorded by the App.
BP monitoring is also conducted by a nurse who visits regularly, as well as at regular GP visits. Those are vital for monitoring his health, but do not show up trends or problems that arise in different situations or time. His heart is monitored remotely by his new pacemaker, but not in real time.
The monitoring follows on from 3 weeks of stays at a private hospital for observation, primarily to determine the cause of his collapses & nearly dying twice.
I happened to come across these BPM on clearance in Kmart after I was diagnosed with high blood pressure & thought I would try & probably return. My Father then required some non-critical monitoring, so put my experience in research design to use.
His low blood pressure is now 'perfect' according to his GP, due to medication & changes to other medication. Not bad, considering he's 94. Monitoring was regularly conducted over 3 weeks, but is now infrequent.
And I wonder why I (as his sole carer) registered high BP ;-)
When Kogan screw you on service and or your warranty - you'll be able to watch you Blood Pressure go through the roof. Don't risk buying Kogan, read the forums.
Is this TGA approved?
says it is on the webpage.
I have both wrist and sleeve BP monitors, I guess I should do some testing. That Kmart deal saw me get 5 of those fitness bands. Given 3 away and the receivers love em. The sleeve BPM and smart scales work with no issues with my phone.
I've got both the cuff & wrist ones from Kmart. Took both to test against the one used at my GP. Both were very close to doctor's reading.
Is it still available at Kmart ?
Probably some - I bought in Brisbane 2 weeks ago. Still a few then.
You'd have to go in and check the display cabinet. My local 3 Kmart stores have pretty much dried up.
My local is Broadway in Sydney. I got the third-from-last one about a month ago. They were slow sellers, but I suspect they're all gone by now! :-)
I went to Kmart Hurstville and staff pointing me to different section on where to look for the Actiiv Blood pressure.
Nobody knows which area. I even went to customer service dept.
I'm surprised wrist monitors are even legal given how inaccurate and fundamentally flawed they are. I've used both. Definitely don't base any medical decisions on a wrist one.
Some people will find them somewhat accurate others won't at all, there are many dependencies. Not exactly what you want from a medical device.
there are many dependencies
Yup, and with appropriate instruction on use and expectations, they're perfectly good and sufficiently accurate for trend-monitoring and emergency-identifying porpoises.
You'd be a fool to spend multiple hundreds of dollars on a device like this from a pharmacy when the same, LITERALLY the same, device is available for twenty bucks from China!
If your lucky enough to find one, some Kmart's have now priced them at $10!
https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/203501