Samsung 60" Full HD Smart TV UA60J6200 $1456 (C&C) @ Dick Smith eBay

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  CyberMurning on 02/10/2015 - 15:25

  Clear Motion Rate 200 (100Hz)
  ok so i have smart tv with 200Hz. how to tell the quality differences between 100 and 200? or this Hz is just gimmicks?

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    scuderiarmani on 02/10/2015 - 15:27

    +2

    Don't lose sleep over it.

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      CyberMurning on 02/10/2015 - 15:28

      i didnt. just want to educate myself of some the technology terms

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        deanylev on 02/10/2015 - 16:01

        +2

        Hz is just the number of times a second the panel refreshes. On stuff like sport, it'll theoretically reduce motion blur, but I'm not convinced on how effective it is in real world usage.

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        c0balt on 02/10/2015 - 17:17

        +10

        @deanylev:

        There's a lot of misinformation out there and I'll try to break it down a little.

        It is the response time of the pixels ability to change colour on the LCD panel that is responsible for blur. It has nothing to do with the refresh rate of the panel apart from a generated effect known as motion interpolation (more on that below).

        http://www.eizo.com/library/basics/response_time_figures/
        http://www.displaymate.com/LCD_Response_Time_ShootOut.htm

        When a signal is sent over DTV it is usually in an interlaced format at 50 interlaced fps. This signal can not be displayed by an LCD, which by it's nature can only display progressive frames. So the TV must deinterlace the 50i signal inside the 'scaler' circuitry and display it as 25 progressive frames per second.

        The Hz rating of the panel is how many times the panel with refresh a progressive image on the screen. So if you have an input signal of 25p then theoretically a 25hz monitor would look just the same as a 200hz monitor as long as they had the same response time and no motion interpolation set on the 200Hz monitor.

        Where Hz can come into play for reducing blur is the capability of the TV to intelligently draw frames in between source frames via a process called motion interpolation. This can have the effect of reducing blur, but it can also introduce artifacts and also greatly affects the 'shutter angle' (relationship between shutter speed and frames per second) and is responsible for the 'soap opera effect'.

        It's subjective, but IMO it's always better to leave off motion interpolation as it's not actually a real captured image you are looking at, but what your TV is interpreting the image as. This can be up to 3 times generated images that never existed if you are on a 100hz TV and watching FTA DTV. 25fps to 100fps requires 75 extra frames to be drawn!

        This can actually increase blur and produce artifacts that look completely unnatural.

        So let's look at it this way for a TV that is 100hz with motion interpolation set to maximum - if in one frame the ball is captured in a mid spin and has a bit of blur, (as it would if it's moving fast and the shutter speed wasn't fast enough to 'freeze' it in motion) and the next frame has that ball being marked by a player - the TV will intelligently draw 3 extra frames between the captured frames of the ball spinning, and the player moving to mark the ball. Now a spinning ball is supposed to have a bit of blur as it would look unnatural due to the fact that it's moving, fast. So if the TV now has to draw 3 more frames in between on the fly it can't properly interpret the velocity, angle and other factors of that ball properly to draw it correctly so it does the best it can and adds another 3 frames of a blurry ball, possibly not drawing it correctly and even changing the shape of the ball. This happens so fast though that people don't really notice the artifacting, but they do notice more frames, which can have the effect of a sharper image with less blur. Of course some people do notice the artifacting and it looks completely horrible.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_interpolation
        http://www.rtings.com/tv/learn/what-is-the-soap-opera-effect…

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        deanylev on 02/10/2015 - 18:32

        @c0balt: Wow, thanks for the detailed response. I'm more of a monitor guy, so the high response TVs are a mystery to me :)

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        lovepub on 02/10/2015 - 20:05

        -7

        @c0balt:

        I am sorry, but that is just too much english to read.
        No chance you can summarize it down to POINT/DOT format like how we do Powerpoint slides like in Uni Times?

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        c0balt on 02/10/2015 - 20:11

        +4

        @lovepub:

        I'm surprised you brought up university, as it clearly isn't for you.

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        neonlight on 03/10/2015 - 19:58

        @lovepub:

        I'm surprised if you graduated uni if you cannot understand all that proper English. Otherwise I think you need to brush up before you attempt to graduate

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    KevinFine on 02/10/2015 - 15:59

    -7

    Your Question Answered

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      claud0902 on 02/10/2015 - 18:53

      No that is just "Your Question Asked" :p

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  jac9meo on 02/10/2015 - 22:59

  +1

  bought this 2 days ago, received a click & collect notification yesterday, haven't picked it up.
  now they reduced the price for a further $130.
  can I refund this item and re-purchase it?

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    z00m on 03/10/2015 - 17:11

    Bought this TV on Tuesday for $1540 click & collect. A little annoyed its almost $100 cheaper now but really happy with the TV.

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      z00m on 03/10/2015 - 17:12

      +1

      Accidentally negd and had to revoke, but a + from me for this deal!

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  reddulf on 03/10/2015 - 05:53

  Does this TV have miracast?

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  jarrod63 on 03/10/2015 - 17:35

  Is this tv really an amazing deal? Usually you would say a 60inch full hd tv from samsung is a steal at under $1500. But i see every major retailer has this tv discounted and it hasn't been too popualar on ozbargain either.

  Just trying to decide whether to buy this or wait for end of year sales and get something better.

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    z00m on 03/10/2015 - 18:47

    +1

    The next cheapest price for this TV is $1888 from Bing Lee. If $400+ discount (or over 20%) doesn't constitute a deal for you then what will? Don't rely on ozbargain to determine what is or isn't a bargain for you, do your own research as well.

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      jarrod63 on 03/10/2015 - 18:58

      Well there really isnt much info out there for this tv so please share if you have found some.

      In regards to this deal im just wondering if come Christmas time we will be able to get 4k 60 inch for similar price

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  OzHan on 03/10/2015 - 22:13

  I can' find any review for this TV, anyone who has bought it would have some comments?