Need to buy new car in 2 or 3 months

dodgybrothers on 31/08/2015 - 12:18
Last edited 01/09/2015 - 14:50

Hi guys

so now its time to buy a bigger car, family getting bigger;

i'm not in much CAR stuff, so if you can suggest something would be really appreciated.

ok, so i m after 6 seater (not sure if any car comes which have 6 seats),

one main thing is i want smallest car in 6 seater categories, and budget is upto $30K - happy for second hand car.
i dont know much about car brand, just want car which has good average.

hope this info is enough.

thanks
seshil.

Family
2 adults

1 kid - 4 years
2 - 2 months
3 - may be next year !

Automotive

Comments

  • spackbace on 31/08/2015 - 12:20
    +1

    Buy in post Christmas sales if it's a new car.

    How many kids, what ages, what sizes, what size adults?

    • spackbace on 31/08/2015 - 15:56
      +6

      I do love when people put up posts asking questions, and don't respond to anything after that…!

      • pitufon on 31/08/2015 - 16:17
        +18

        I love it when people think that everyone sits in front of the pc all day answering posts. Give him a break he is probably working towards that new car.

        • spackbace on 31/08/2015 - 16:18
          +19

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        • pitufon on 31/08/2015 - 16:19
          -3

          @Spackbace:

          pwend

      • OldBugger on 31/08/2015 - 18:31
        +3

        Yeah! C'mon OP. Give us some feedback for our ramblings. Personally, I was late for a meeting making my few pointless comments.

      • dodgybrothers on 01/09/2015 - 14:32
        +2

        apologies spackback and everyone - had to go hospital in emergency so couldnt reply

        • [Deactivated] on 01/09/2015 - 20:33
          +5

          Hope everyone's ok.

    • dodgybrothers on 01/09/2015 - 14:30
      +4

      2 kids, one 4 years and another 1 month and there are great chances will have one more kid in future :)

      • spackbace on 01/09/2015 - 14:32
        +2

        So possibility of 3 car seats at 1 time? I hate to say it but I think you'd be best in a people mover, like Tarago/Grand Carnival/Imax etc

  • holdenmg on 31/08/2015 - 12:36
    -1

    Fiat Freemont*

    http://www.fiat.com.au/freemont
    An additional $1500 is needed for an optional third row of seats.

    • Dr Techno on 01/09/2015 - 00:13
      +4

      I would keep away from Fiat Freemont & Dodge Journey (same car).

      If anything goes wrong you will have to deal a Fiat Chrysler company.. Same one that owns Jeep >_<
      Ok if your up for reliability russian roulette.

      I would prefer a newish 2nd hand Toyota Kluger or new Kia/Hyundai.

    • dodgybrothers on 01/09/2015 - 14:34
      +2

      thanks holdenmg.. but all friends suggested not to go to fiat ! not much confident about it.

  • nocure on 31/08/2015 - 12:41
    +4

    Kia Sorento 7 year warranty

    • battler on 31/08/2015 - 12:56
      +1

      A very good vehicle - but note Kia 7 year warranty introduced in 2014, so car in your link will have 5 year warranty.

      • [Deactivated] on 31/08/2015 - 12:57
        -8

        No not a very good vehicle. By definition the bottom of the market, so comparatively, a very bad vehicle.

        • nocure on 31/08/2015 - 12:59
          +1

          This an excellent choice….trust me.(current Kia owner)

        • [Deactivated] on 31/08/2015 - 13:01
          -7

          @nocure: Anyone who says a Kia is an excellent choice and to trust them clearly has no idea about cars.

          If the OP can stretch his budget a little into the mid 30ks, he should be able to pick up a C4 Picasso. At least it is stylish.

          http://www.citroen.com.au/new-cars/small-medium-cars/c4-pica…

        • battler on 31/08/2015 - 13:02
          +4

          @thorton82:
          personal opinion or have you got facts to back up your statement?

        • nocure on 31/08/2015 - 13:03
          +8

          @thorton82:

          CITROËN C4 PICASSO
          THE 5-SEATER THAT HAS IT ALL

          Someone's gunna miss out on a seat.

        • [Deactivated] on 31/08/2015 - 13:04
          -7

          @thorton82:

          Actually scratch that, Get a Toyota Prius V. 7 Seats, Hybrid, low fuel consumption, under your budget.

        • nocure on 31/08/2015 - 13:05
          +2

          Yep it's in the garage.

        • battler on 31/08/2015 - 13:06
          +2

          @nocure:
          Got one in my driveway too.
          (my question was for thornton)

        • dasher86 on 31/08/2015 - 13:44
          +5

          @thorton82:
          things have shifted considerably since the days of the failed getz and excels which i wouldn't touch with a ten foot pole.

          Hyundai are now a top player in quality cars at affordable prices.
          Take a look at the i30 and how well it has recently done.
          They are still suffering from their past woes though.

          http://www.autonews.com/article/20150617/RETAIL/150619864/ki…

        • [Deactivated] on 31/08/2015 - 13:53
          -6

          @dasher86:

          Oh wow, autonews. What a reputable automotive source.

          Regardless of your opinion, when an i30 drives by, every thinks its a piece of junk. 99% are driven by young girls on green Ps. Just as your beloved Excel was 20 years ago. Its the cheapest, smallest car you can get for the money. It may be 100 times better than the 20 year old equivalent, but its still a worse car than anything else on the market. They look cheap, dated and tinny, from brand new. They have lethargic engines, and the standard spec cheap Korean interiors (which they can't even get right on the $90k Genesis). It might be the best car that Hyundai has ever made, but it is still the worst car on the market.

        • Cheeper on 31/08/2015 - 14:33
          +7

          @thorton82:
          OMG.. a citroen over a kia???? you jest..

        • victorwilson on 31/08/2015 - 14:34

          @thorton82: +1. Just because people buy a certain car, it doesn't necessarily mean the car is any good.

          Not sure about your "worst car on the market" comment though. That title clearly belongs to the new Holden Cruze. Unsurprisingly, a Korean design.

        • AlanHB on 31/08/2015 - 17:34
          +7

          Kia's and Hyundais used to be crap. So did Subaru. Times change.

          +1 on the Cruze being crap.

          I had a mate who managed an AVIS, so had the opportunity to drive the entire fleet. The Hynadai "I" series are pretty great, nice solid cars. Pretty amazing considering the Getz felt like a dodgem car.

        • [Deactivated] on 31/08/2015 - 17:40
          -6

          @AlanHB: When you start talking about Hyundai's as being 'pretty great', its a sign that you need to realign your expectations of what great is.

        • AlanHB on 31/08/2015 - 20:29
          +1

          @thorton82:

          Have a drive of the i30 or i20 mate, it's as solid a drive as the Mazda3. Great cars for the price.

        • roguescholar on 31/08/2015 - 20:36
          +7

          @thorton82:

          Well, these publications don't think that the Kia Sorento is bad.

          2012: Car of the Year: SUV Over $40,000

          It also won the latest Wheels SUV comparison Wheels: September, 2015

        • [Deactivated] on 31/08/2015 - 20:38
          -2

          @roguescholar: yep, they also named the Holden Camira as car of the year. Australian automotive journalists are hacks who have to adhere to the editorial line.

        • [Deactivated] on 31/08/2015 - 20:39
          -2

          @AlanHB: seriously I wouldn't be seen dead in one.

        • AlanHB on 01/09/2015 - 07:16
          +4

          @thorton82:

          If you haven't driven one, your opinion is diminished.

          Noticed I got some negs against my Mazda3 comment above. I own a Mazda3, so that's where my comparison came from.

          On that note Mazda used to be crap too. I had a 121 which was both auto and had a choke. Cold mornings required a balancing act between the two to get the revs up. The Mitsubishi Magnas in the 90s had the widest turning circle known to man.

        • [Deactivated] on 01/09/2015 - 11:02
          +3

          @thorton82:

          …yet you recommend a fiat?

          I think you're just ignorant, and a snob.

          Hyundai / kia have been racking up awards and achievements around the world. Certainly far from a very bad vehicle that they once were.

          They are definitely recommended, maybe not for badge snobs such as yourself, but for anyone looking to buy a good reliable practical, stylish (cuz kias designer is Audi's former designed) vehicle.

        • maybeamacy on 01/09/2015 - 11:09
          +7

          @inose:

          Thorton drives a Jeep, think he's a tad biased towards any Jeep/Dodge/Chrysler/Fiat lol.

        • khomeini on 01/09/2015 - 14:57
          +4

          As someone who has a French car. Just don't…

        • [Deactivated] on 01/09/2015 - 18:38
          -1

          @maybeamacy: No, I don't drive a Jeep

        • zeomega on 01/09/2015 - 19:59
          +6

          @thorton82:

          So you got rid of your Grand Crappy? Well that didn't last long… So what are you driving now?

        • [Deactivated] on 01/09/2015 - 20:12
          -1

          @zeomega: never had one. Stop trolling. I said I drove one for several months. Still a great car for the money. I drive a VW.

        • zeomega on 01/09/2015 - 20:24
          +3

          @thorton82:

          So you work for Jeep or are a car salesman/work in the car industry?

        • [Deactivated] on 01/09/2015 - 20:26
          -1

          @zeomega: neither, but I'm not a bigoted, ignorant moron either.

        • zeomega on 01/09/2015 - 21:19

          @thorton82:

          Interesting, so which VW exactly do you drive? Beatle?

        • [Deactivated] on 01/09/2015 - 21:23

          @zeomega: Why, you want some more ammunition for your troll gun?

        • zeomega on 01/09/2015 - 21:26

          @thorton82:

          For someone with such strong opinions about cars, i'm just wondering what kind of VW you decided on.

        • giventofly on 02/09/2015 - 09:06

          @AlanHB:

          The 98 Magna was a great car.

        • zeomega on 02/09/2015 - 10:15
          +2

          @thorton82:

          Come on, humour me.

        • AlanHB on 02/09/2015 - 15:56

          @rorymeister: 94 wasn't :)

        • giventofly on 02/09/2015 - 17:08
          +1

          @AlanHB:

          You are correct ;)

      • nocure on 31/08/2015 - 12:57

        It comes with the balance of the new car warranty (2 years) and 5 year dealer warranty.

    • dogboy on 31/08/2015 - 16:15

      I really hate these cars because their brake lights are blinding at night if you are behind them. Should not have been allowed on the road..

  • OldBugger on 31/08/2015 - 12:58
    +1

    How about this Holden Captiva 7 seater? This is listed to be sold for around the $28K at auction on Wednesday. Go in and make an offer beforehand. Or buy almost new here for ~$30K.

    • Findo on 31/08/2015 - 13:14
      +13

      Please don't get a craptiva. There are many threads on WP with unhappy Captiva owners. Get a Mazda CX-9.

      • OldBugger on 31/08/2015 - 13:34

        Could possibly haggle close to $30K for this 2014 CX-9?

        • spackbace on 31/08/2015 - 13:46
          +10

          OP did ask for the 'smallest' 6 seater. CX-9 is a tank!

        • Scorpiogirl on 31/08/2015 - 13:52

          @Spackbace: Why i didn't originally suggest it.

        • Scorpiogirl on 31/08/2015 - 13:55

          As a tank, do you think they are a good tank or a not so good tank? Would you recommend them or no?

        • spackbace on 31/08/2015 - 13:57
          +1

          @Scorpiogirl:

          Nice cars, but very thirsty! And no CPS

          Consider having a look at a Territory if that's the size you're looking at. 1 of the bigger middle-row seats in that SUV size. Diesel should be pretty economical.

        • victorwilson on 31/08/2015 - 14:57
          +1

          @Spackbace: OP needs to chop the legs off the 6th person if he/she was to fit in the third row seat of a Territory.

          With that said, the Territory is definitely the best value 7-seater on the market. RWD and plenty of power in the base model. Get one before they're gone forever :(

        • Euphemistic on 01/09/2015 - 09:37
          -1

          @victorwilson:
          Territory doesn't fir the brief of being a small car. They are one of the biggest out there.

  • Looking4Bargians on 31/08/2015 - 13:25
    +1

    i personally like CX-9 as CX-7 no more in market as new ( only old second hands). I am also looking similar to OP. I would go for CX-9 new model next year. Would cost around $40k

    • Scorpiogirl on 31/08/2015 - 13:36

      My suggestion too. Cater for a large family and size wize they are very spacious. You can get the luxury model under your price range.

      • OldBugger on 31/08/2015 - 13:45

        … depending on the kms and year, sure. You would be hard pressed to find one under 100,000 kms and within new car warranty.

  • Cheeper on 31/08/2015 - 14:37
    +1

    A used 7 seat Toyota Kluger 2WD. (2WD not the thirsty AWD)
    Although it has a 3.5L V6 is it more economical than a lot of 4cyl suv's.
    The motor & transmission is of the best quality, very cheap to service and extremely durable.
    If buying used, always get it inspected. Car sales people are not saints…

    • [Deactivated] on 31/08/2015 - 17:30
      -4

      What type of person buys a 2wd SUV? That's like buying a hat with a hole in the top.

      • spackbace on 31/08/2015 - 17:34
        -3

        No, it's like buying a cap that fits an oversized head, but not buying the sombrero that fits the oversized head.

        Both fit the oversized head, but 1 doesn't have quite the same features as the other.

        • [Deactivated] on 31/08/2015 - 17:40

          Yeah, one doesn't keep the sun off your head. The 2wd one.

        • spackbace on 31/08/2015 - 17:41

          @thorton82:

          Right…

        • [Deactivated] on 31/08/2015 - 17:57
          -2

          @Spackbace:

          Basically, if you buy a 2wd SUV, you are a long way down the road to dic khead

        • spackbace on 31/08/2015 - 18:03
          +1

          @thorton82:

          Ok so if you want to seat 7, you should buy a Tarago/Grand Carnival if you don't want to go off-road?

        • [Deactivated] on 31/08/2015 - 18:24
          -2

          @Spackbace: depends how much space you want. A Tarago/Grand Carnival are much bigger interior wise than an SUV and much more suited to the job. 6 seat Taragos have tons or room inside, more than any SUV, they are much better people movers. If I didn't want a huge car, I would get a Prius V. Similar space to an SUV 7 seater, uses a quarter of the fuel. Can go anywhere a 2wd SUV can, and is safer in terms of passive safety. (Lower CG, not designed as AWD in the first place, so less short comings like torque steer and woeful understeer). That is probably the biggest single problem with 2wd SUVs, over the limit they are deadly, too much weight, too high and understeer city, with no rear wheels to power steer you out of trouble. Other than the fact that they are massive poser mobiles, trying to be an SUV.

        • spackbace on 31/08/2015 - 18:35
          +3

          @thorton82:

          Other than the fact that they are massive poser mobiles, trying to be an SUV.

          Welcome to 2002. No one cares about that viewpoint any more. Hell even most of the Prados that are sold won't see an off-road track unless you call a curb at the local school 'off-road'.

          Brand new Tarago starts at $53k drive away for the base model.

          Prius V has 100kw. All well and good for those just going home -> school -> home, but good luck taking it on a holiday in this lovely country of ours! And with 27 used cars available Australia-wide from 2012-2014 inclusive, goes to show your viewpoint is in the minority.

          so less short comings like torque steer and woeful understeer

          When's the last time anyone pushed any of these cars to that point?! Most are pushing ~2T so torque steer is a non-issue.

        • [Deactivated] on 31/08/2015 - 18:48

          @Spackbace:

          It doesn't matter, 2wd SUVs are just hauling weight around for no reason. You can't even take them skiing without chains. I think you will find that Prados are much more likely to see some terrain, vs softroaders like an X5 which will just see the Buller car park.

          A Prius V is probably just as fast as a Kluger 2wd despite almost half the power. It is much lighter, and has instant torque from 0 rpm. It has no problem in traffic.

          Torque steer is an issue and has nothing to do with weight, it has to do with traction, which a 2wd SUV is lacking. Understeer is a big issue. I had a big understeer moment in an AWD SUV last week, when the was a flash shower while i was at speed going around the corner on a freeway on ramp. Luckily the back wheels pushed me out of it, but not before I changed lanes inadvertently. In a 2wd SUV in the same circumstances, I would have been stuffed. Into a bush.

        • Cheeper on 01/09/2015 - 00:16
          +7

          @thorton82:
          You have never driven a good one.
          You also confuse a 4WD with the term SUV like the rest of the kids giving opinions on here.
          If you go to Kakadu hunting wild pigs all the time then go heavyweight 4WD.
          BTW.. Any tall vehicle must be driven within its limits, common sense. You will learn about that when you get to drive trucks.

          ""I would get a Prius V. Similar space to an SUV 7 seater, uses a quarter of the fuel. Can go anywhere a 2wd SUV can"""
          ?? The first obstacle you overlooked needed for the slightest off road venture.. ground clearance. The prius V grounds out on a pea.

          It is sad when someone comes on here asking for an opinion on a vehicle for his needs and a whole pack of bored trolls come out of the woodwork purely to bag anything that does not look cool at Maccas.. DOH! Not what the op was looking for kids and learn to live with the fact that adults have a different taste in motor vehicles than teenagers.

        • [Deactivated] on 01/09/2015 - 18:41

          @xywolap:

          There is no good 2wd SUV.

          Im not confusing an SUV and a 4WD. SUVs have their place. They are fine on muddy fields or driving up to the snow. 2wd SUVs have no place. They can't do either of these things.

          A 2WD SUV literally can only go as far as a Prius V. It might have slightly more ground clearance, but it can't handle anything slippery. The only exception to that are those American pickup trucks that are rear wheel drive, but have a diff.

      • [Deactivated] on 01/09/2015 - 17:35
        +1

        Seems like you don't know the Australian market very much or what you're talking about.

  • inherentchoice on 31/08/2015 - 14:58

    Well I think the smallest 6 seater is the Tesla Model S. It's about three times your budget though. But you would make some reasonable fuel savings and the depreciation may be minimal. It may even appreciate because it's the first of it's kind?

    • lplau on 31/08/2015 - 15:23
      +1

      isn't the Tesla Model S around $150k? lol.
      Great car but don't think the OP would splurge out for that one. haha

      • inherentchoice on 31/08/2015 - 15:33
        -1

        ~$100k. I saw one on Gumtree the other day that was several months old but still selling for $100k.

        http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2014/05/the-tesla-model-s-is-offic…

        • [Deactivated] on 31/08/2015 - 17:28
          +2

          They don't sell the base model anymore, you can get a P70D for about $130k if you keep the options down.

          No way can you get one for $100k on the road. Tesla has had multiple price rises since launch, in line with the dollar. A top of the line P85D is over $200k and worth every penny.

    • [Deactivated] on 31/08/2015 - 15:42
      +1

      The Tesla Model S is massive, its considerably bigger than any car mentioned in this thread.

  • mranderson978 on 31/08/2015 - 16:18

    Nissan X-Trail is a brilliant car for the money - under $35k RRP, but you can generally get it a fair bit cheaper than that.
    3rd row of seats: Seats 7

  • Ace26 on 31/08/2015 - 16:57

    I'm in a similar situation needing a new car and occasional use for 3rd row seats. I was thinking of an X-Trail or Pathfinder still thinking though

    https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/209276#comment-3015387

    • altomic on 01/09/2015 - 00:15
      +3

      Xtrail has a tiny third row. Only suitable for children without legs. I looked at one 2 years ago and ended up getting an outlander. Pretty happy with it.

    • PonyTable on 02/09/2015 - 13:50

      Zero experience with the 7 seat option sorry, but have had an X trail as a fleet car in our business for 3 Years. Really solid, big k's done and really comfortable to drive, not a huge fan of the CVT (Transmission) as it makes it feel a bit unresponsive until you get used to it, but otherwise it does a great job and plenty of room with the flat folding back seats. Our rep is very happy with it.

  • Hirolol on 31/08/2015 - 17:23

    Toyota tarago… They are ok…

    • roguescholar on 31/08/2015 - 20:38

      But very expensive, they're about $50k new for the base model.

      • Hirolol on 31/08/2015 - 23:42

        are you serious?!?!?!
        wow i didnt even know!
        no wonder why mum didnt buy any extras :/

  • frinik on 31/08/2015 - 21:20

    honda odysee

  • zeomega on 31/08/2015 - 23:04

    Considered a Subaru Tribeca?

    *Disclaimer. I don't know much about people movers. I've got a few cars and couple of them are coupes/convertibles, the rest are just 5 seaters.

  • [Deactivated] on 31/08/2015 - 23:23
    +1

    You will be surprised at the new Skoda Wagons very roomy and comfortable.

    Basically you get a Volkswagen with way more room, way more boot space, better styling and more features at a lower price point.

    All internals are VW just that the car is a little bit more refined and unique too.

    Cheapest decent cars in their class.

    • Cheeper on 01/09/2015 - 00:17

      Servicing costs? Long term reliability? Depreciation?

      • [Deactivated] on 03/09/2015 - 23:12

        6 years capped price servicing.

        Long term reliability??? How long do you want to keep the car for? I change cars every 5 years and not one has died on me within 5 years.

        Besides you get a minimum of 3 years warranty. If you can get 5 years warranty and change cars every 5 years - you have 100% reliability right there. Most warranties come with roadside assistance too and you can negotiate a hire car.

        So reliability doesn't really matter on any new car these days.

        Depreciation is not that high on a Skoda because they are already at a lower price point for decent internals.

  • TheOneWhoKnocks on 01/09/2015 - 07:31
    +2

    Good to see the OP is thanking everyone for their feedback and responding to comments.

  • misterpotatomato on 01/09/2015 - 10:40

    Get a Lunar Roving Vehicle.

    http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/planetary/lunar/apollo_lrv.html

  • ntt on 01/09/2015 - 11:16
    +1

    If I were the OP, after I read these comments, I would choose a bus.

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