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Entertainment Book (Digital Version) $5 Rebate Via PayPal (7.5%)

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Entertainment Book (Digital Version) $5 Rebate Via PayPal (7.5%)
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Associated1stOzBargainer @ Entertainment on 26/04/2015 - 12:56 entertainmentbook.com.au (1063 clicks)
Last edited 27/04/2015 - 10:14

At my work, this years Entertainment Book Digital Memberships are being offered through our Social Club.
EDIT Details of deal Removed
Do Not Use The "Go To Deal" Button as it goes directly to the Entertainment Book website and you will not be supporting the supplier of your choice

For anyone who needs the information:
The physical book can be picked up from our Hutt Street office in Adelaide
Pick up Address: Level 1 16 Hutt Street Adelaide SA 5000 - Office is open to the public Weekdays 9:00am to 4:45pm

Money raised goes to our Social Club, so if you would prefer to support the charity/cause/school of your choice, there is an Entertainment Book Wiki https://www.ozbargain.com.au/wiki/entertainment_book_fundrai… which lists many providers for you to choose from.

Early Bird Specials that the Entertainment Book provides apply to all sales before June 1st

*updated to more accurately reflect the full purchase price of the Digital Membership via the EntertainmentBook online sales tool

27/04/2015 Deal expired based on feedback regarding offer
Existing orders will be honoured

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  • super8 on 26/04/2015 - 13:25
    -7

    "Entertainment Book price cannot be discounted"
    That is unlawful activity.
    "A supplier may recommend that resellers charge an appropriate price for particular goods or services but may not stop resellers charging or advertising below that price" (www.accc.gov.au/business/anti-competitive-behaviour/imposing…)

    • NeggerOfDeals on 26/04/2015 - 13:31

      That is unlawful activity.

      Did you come in here to just point that out? It has no relevance to the deal.

    • Maverick-au on 26/04/2015 - 13:37

      "Entertainment Book price cannot be discounted"
      That is unlawful activity.

      It is not unlawful activity, if a social club or other organisation decide to sell the book via the publishers website they only sell it for the full retail price. There is nothing stopping a social club or other organisation from selling it for a cheaper price (not via the publishers website) or offering a rebate however as the purpose of this book is fundraising the publisher prefer that the book not be discounted so the organisations can make money and not undercut each other.

      Next you will claim that Miele are breaking the law by not allowing their agents to discount the price.

      • super8 on 26/04/2015 - 14:43
        -2

        "Next you will claim that Miele are breaking the law by not allowing their agents to discount the price."……Absolutely Correct, I am.

        "Did you come in here to just point that out? It has no relevance to the deal."……I disagree, any merchant who claims they cannot discount below RRP is either mistaken or unscrupulous. If its the latter (which it appears not to be in this circumstance) I do not want to deal with them.

        • Maverick-au on 26/04/2015 - 15:22
          +2

          "Next you will claim that Miele are breaking the law by not allowing their agents to discount the price."……Absolutely Correct, I am.

          Well you are wrong just like you are wrong in this case, Miele are the only seller in Australia of their products and they sell their products via AGENCIES. What they are doing is 100% LEGAL.

          I disagree, any merchant who claims they cannot discount below RRP is either mistaken or unscrupulous. If its the latter (which it appears not to be in this circumstance) I do not want to deal with them.

          You are wrong again, it was clear that selling via the publishers website you could not discount but they can when selling them in via their own channels otherwise they can offer a rebate which is what they are doing.

          Please don't quote laws that you have no idea about, all this does it create new old wives tales that get spread around.

        • Maverick-au on 26/04/2015 - 21:27

          @mskeggs:

          And again I will tell you that Miele are not breaking the law in Australia and this is pretty clear given they have been operating in the same manner since they started selling in Australia and they are not the only manufacturer that sells in this manner.

          Please don't quote laws you don't understand, call the ACCC if you would like them to explain to what I have already said. This is not anti competitive behaviour because there are many manufacturers of appliances to choose from, Miele is not the only choice and they have not colluded with other manufacturers.

        • mskeggs on 27/04/2015 - 12:40

          @Maverick-au:
          I don't know anything about how Meile is structured, but if they are preventing third party retailers from discounting their products, they are very much in breach of the law.
          Perhaps you could explain why you think the law doesn't apply to Meile instead of telling others they don't understand the law?
          There is no exemption from the law because somebody has been trading for a number of years.
          If Meile is engaged in anti-competitive behaviour, it matters not if there are 1 million other appliance manufacturers.
          I've provided a link to a plain English explanation of the law from the ACCC, it includes links to the relevant legislation.
          You have posted messages saying other people don't understand the law because an unrelated business to this post has been selling appliances for years.
          I think you are a bit mixed up.

        • tomclancy on 27/04/2015 - 16:07

          @mskeggs:

          Love your work mskeggs, but in defense to Mav, they have already explained themselves here. Miele is using HN, Winnings, et al as agencies (not resellers) and the transfer of goods works similar to consignment. HN don't set the price of the consigned goods, Miele set the price. Which of course they are legally entitled to do.

          I guess HN could give away a rebate like this Entertainment Book deal to customers, but I believe the consignment margin on Miele is tiny.

        • mskeggs on 27/04/2015 - 21:31

          @PBG:
          Thanks for the explanation. It is an interesting approach. Presumably Miele has to take all the risk on unsold stock etc. if they don't sell them to the retailer. Is this the case with the entertainment books too, I wonder?

        • tomclancy on 27/04/2015 - 22:41

          @mskeggs: > Is this the case with the entertainment books too, I wonder?

          Good question. Logic suggests it would be the case otherwise Entertainment Book Co is putting too much pressure on charities to make sales.

        • Associated1stOzBargainer @ Entertainment on 27/04/2015 - 22:58

          @PBG: Yes, books are on consignment - unsold stock must be returned and apparently stock can be recalled at any time.

        • Maverick-au on 28/04/2015 - 03:35

          @mskeggs:

          Twice I have said that Miele sell through AGENTS/AGENCIES in Australia, a simple google will explain how they and other high end appliance manufacturers sell their products.

          So no I am not mixed up and you don't understand the law nor how it applies to the entertainment book.

        • mskeggs on 28/04/2015 - 07:37

          @Maverick-au:
          Apologies for misunderstanding you.
          I did not recognise that both the entertainment books and meile appliances are sold on consignment, so the seller (not the retailer) is entitled to set the price.

    • djones145 on 26/04/2015 - 13:40

      The entertainment book is usually supplied on consignment at around 15 bucks lower than wat is sold ( Sydney books usually 50 and sold for 65). What ever you charge above the base price, usually goes to social club or charity

      I did the entertainment books for my old work and that's how it worked before
      We use to sell them for 60 and just take 10 bucks for ur social club

      So you can sell the book below whT the entertainment book website charges

    • illumination on 26/04/2015 - 16:40

      Despite what is being discussed below, what OP is saying is not even what you're saying is wrong. He is just saying you must pay full price. What you quoted is saying that the supplier cannot stop him from discounting. Doesn't say the reseller must sell at full price….

    • IVI on 26/04/2015 - 23:56

      Why doesn't a group of OzB'ers FORM A "SELF-HELP" or SOCIAL ORGANISATION, BUY THESE BOOKS & RESELL THE BOOKS (eg, at face-to-face meetups) AT DISCOUNT PRICES?

      It -may- be too late for this edition, but not for next year…

  • seanbaussie on 26/04/2015 - 13:31
    +14

    I'd actually feel pretty uncomfortable about buying from here just because your club chooses to accept $5 less of their share of the purchase price than other clubs who might well need that $5. Not a neg because this is a bargain per se, but given that this is primarily supposed to be for fundraising then I don't think it's right.

    • mskeggs on 28/04/2015 - 07:40
      +1

      This is a fair point, but:
      a) some will buy at a cheaper price that wouldn't at full price.
      b) people looking to support the org doing the fundraising are likely to still buy their copy for an extra $5
      c) the real question is why the publisher charges $50 a copy, which is extortionate!

  • Associated1stOzBargainer @ Entertainment on 26/04/2015 - 13:34
    +1

    Have updated deal to more accurately reflect the full price requirement due to the online sales tool used by EntertainmentBook (to clarify the "unable to discount" wording first used which was apparently a poor choice of words.

  • Associated1stOzBargainer @ Entertainment on 26/04/2015 - 13:37
    +5

    seanbsydney have +1ed your comment - this may be an issue for some
    I did try to make very clear in the deal that funds raised are going to a work social club and provided the wiki link to other providers.
    Open to other suggestions if further clarity is needed though.

  • JChrist on 26/04/2015 - 13:52
    +8

    Your "social club" has nothing to do with charity, its just a business making money off entertainment book. You get 20% and pay back 7.5%. I don't have any problems with this. Win-Win in my opinion.

    • tomclancy on 26/04/2015 - 17:07
      +10

      If Jesus doesn't have a problem then neither do I!

    • zzzzzzzzzz on 26/04/2015 - 20:48
      +3

      As 'grasstown' has mentioned in another comment, it is those charities who play by the rules who lose out here. The idea of undercutting competition through a rebate scheme, when competition on the basis of price is quite clearly not meant to happen, is simply ethically dubious.

      It is also most likely in breach of the Entertainment Book terms and conditions. From the Entertainment Book terms and conditions:

      "1. Entertainment™ Books are issued on consignment. Books must be sold for the retail price stated above. Your group retains 20% for each Book sold."
      From http://www.entertainmentbook.com.au/fundraisers/sales-terms

      The social club of the person who has posted this deal is literally breaking rule #1!

      • Associated1stOzBargainer @ Entertainment on 26/04/2015 - 21:07
        +3

        No.
        I checked with Entertainment Book and was told that provided the Entertainment Membership was sold at full price we could offer any extra add-ons, special offers or rebates that we wanted to.

        I have made a real effort to be transparent about where the funds are going and provided the link to the OzBargain wiki of other providers charities/causes/schools to allow people the freedom of choice.

        For the purposes of full disclosure the business is actually a not-for-profit; though as detailed previously the money is going to the social club for the staff who work there and not to the business.

        • grasstown on 27/04/2015 - 00:43
          +6

          You do realise that every single one of your customers from oz bargain would have bought this book from a charity/org that was not you, and so you deprived those charities/orgs of those monies. I didn't neg you this morning as I hoped you just hadnt thought it through, and I gave you that benefit to take it down, but I see it is still up and harms now been done. Disclosure misses the point unfortunately.

        • tikei on 27/04/2015 - 17:18

          @grasstown:
          Had a look at this years book, decided not worth it for $65. I would've bought from op if it was $50. Maybe some would buy at $60 but not $65 which is just over the mark for them, in that case not every single one of op's customers from oz bargain would have bought this book from a charity.

        • Maverick-au on 28/04/2015 - 03:38

          @tikei:

          I find it hard to believe that you can dispute the value of the book and would consider it for $50 but not $65! You can easily save thousands with the entertainment book without trying but you claim there isn't even $65 value in it!

        • tikei on 28/04/2015 - 09:46

          @Maverick-au:

          I had last year's book. It didn't save me thousands :) it can cause people to spend more, making people eat at fancy-ish places that they otherwise wouldn't have if they didn't have vouchers. Most are 25% off deals, which makes them still more expensive than dining in Chinese restaurants. They used to have a lot of bogof. Not so anymore.
          The book is good for people who already dine in those sorts of restaurants. But it's not for me.

        • Mad Max on 28/04/2015 - 16:20

          @Maverick-au:
          the more you spend the more you save ;-)
          or not?…

      • tghtarse on 27/04/2015 - 09:50

        +1

  • grasstown on 26/04/2015 - 13:58
    +7

    the problem I have with this is that the $5 rebate is solely to bypass the rule that they must be sold at full price. the rule is there so that charities do not undercut each other. this still offends the basis for the rule. its one thing to offer it within your company reduced, where your staff will perhaps prefer to support you above others, but to offer it to others who will buy solely on price, is not right. I suggest you rethink and take it down. no harm done yet.

  • mike-77 on 26/04/2015 - 17:53
    +2

    Purchased and received PayPal "rebate" within 15 minutes. Not sure if it's ethical but happy with the discount

    • animal on 27/04/2015 - 07:18
      +1

      Well buying the Entertainment Book through a charitable organisation doesn't have to be and shouldn't be the only way people help others. Get the discount here but donate somewhere else or help out in other ways.

  • shopaholic32 on 26/04/2015 - 18:11

    OP or anyone knows if Digital copy is selected, can it be say forwarded as a pdf Voucher to another family meber's fone use e.g we have the Book copy and I can give the tear out voucher for other family member to use.

    • Ughhh on 26/04/2015 - 18:14
      +2

      you dont get pdf's in the digital version. To redeem, you/staff just press the 'redeem' button. You can log into the account on a couple of phones though.

    • danyool on 26/04/2015 - 21:58

      It's an app.

      "The Entertainment™ Digital Membership can be shared with family members in your household on up to two different devices, but only one device can actively redeem offers at any one time."

      http://www.entertainmentbook.com.au/Help/faq#D8

  • Iwantthatbargain on 26/04/2015 - 18:39

    Thanks OP, place an order.. There was no Paypal option to pay, so I used the CC

    • Associated1stOzBargainer @ Entertainment on 26/04/2015 - 18:40

      You don't need to pay via PayPal, the rebate is paid via PayPal - you may have received it already

      • Iwantthatbargain on 26/04/2015 - 18:43

        Thanks OP, yes I received the rebate almost instantly.. That was very fast :)

  • MementoMori on 26/04/2015 - 18:49

    Can this be used to purchase any addition i.e. the Melbourne one ?

    • Associated1stOzBargainer @ Entertainment on 26/04/2015 - 19:05

      Yes - Digital version

    • MelbBargainChaser77 on 26/04/2015 - 19:09
      +1

      Is this a serious question? I guess people like to whinge for the sake of it.

  • robb6014 on 26/04/2015 - 19:25
    +7

    I read this as $5 for the Entertainment Book. Don't worry about me, carry on

  • kokomo1978 on 26/04/2015 - 22:52
    +5

    Undercutting valid charities who are trying to raise money through the sale of this book is NOT a bargain.

  • Mad Max on 26/04/2015 - 23:00
    +2

    From the posts above I understand that the book costs organisations (charities, schools, clubs) $50 and they must resell it for $65, but they are allowed to give rebates on that price. All good so far.
    OP has opened the competition with a $5 Paypal rebate.
    I suppose someone could be happy with only $5 per book instead of $10.
    I have been buying the book from a so called "charity". The CEO of that charity gets a 6 figures (high 6 figures!) salary!
    And they have an upmarket office in an expensive area.
    So $10 rebate anyone???

  • RickOnOzBargain on 27/04/2015 - 07:07
    -1

    As much as I would like to start a
    bidding war for my kids school sales,
    and offer the book up for $6 less…

    I think, when it is charity, different rules apply.
    And although OP's "charity" is just a social club,
    many people selling these books are doing it to
    raise money for much more "useful" causes.
    So neg from me.

  • number5 on 27/04/2015 - 09:47
    +1

    I used to have one as benefit in a big company, it's pretty much useless

  • halfnhalf71 on 27/04/2015 - 09:53
    +4

    I don't have a problem with how the OP has presented this.
    There is a link to charities who sell the book and at the end of the day the purchaser is the one making the decision. The OP is providing choice and his/her choice has a little bit more mayo on it. It's only at the expense of the charities if your purchase makes it so (unintentional Jean-Luc Picard semi-quote).
    If you feel strongly enough that a charity will miss out then just make a donation to them.

  • Associated1stOzBargainer @ Entertainment on 27/04/2015 - 10:08

    The Entertainment Book is described and used as a fundraiser for many types of organisations; community groups, clubs, schools and charitable organisations.

    While I believe that all aspects of the deal that is being offered are completely legitimate and have been presented in a completely transparent way (going so far as to provide easy access to alternative sources being offered), I acknowledge that there is some merit to the opinion that the intent of the Entertainment Book is provide a level playing field for all groups who are fundraising which does include many charities. Even though I hold a differing viewpoint to some of the views presented and may not agree with some of the specifics points being made, I can see the intent comes from a good place.

    As such, in part based on the comments and views that some people have expressed (thank you for the thoughtful and rational feedback), I have decided to expire the deal from OzBargain at this time. I will also remove the direct link in deal description.

    All existing orders will of course be honoured.

    Any questions, please feel free to post or PM me.

    One final question for those who are unhappy with this offer ($5 rebate) - How would you view an alternative offer, such as a free movie ticket or $5 Kogan/JBHIFI voucher, with each purchase?

  • adpaholic on 27/04/2015 - 10:09

    $5 PayPal rebate for all charity or only the social club?

    • Associated1stOzBargainer @ Entertainment on 27/04/2015 - 10:16

      Deal was for our social club only.

  • Associated1stOzBargainer @ Entertainment on 27/04/2015 - 10:16

    Deal has now expired.

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